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Would like to know if anyone is interested in getting a list going.  I'd personally love to come back and try this out.

Remember that the free faction/server transfer is based on the server of the friend that used the scroll on you, so you'll want to accept a scroll from the server you want to play on. If anyone wants an invite from Cenarius - Alliance, let me know.

Edit: That's assuming the character you want to boost to 80 is on a different server than you want to play on. If you're just looking to boost a character on your primary server to 80, you can ignore the server/faction change.

I can also give a scroll, the optoinal transfer would be to Anvilmar, alliance side.  It is pve with a moderate to high population that is very lopsided towards alliance.  I guess you would just have to pm an email to send it to, they don't say if it has to be the email you use for battle.net so I assume it can be anything.

Edit: Only at the screen where you send it out does it tell you that the email does have to be linked to their battle.net account, you can also do it by realm/character name though so you can just give the person your old toon's name/server.  I assume it would have to be the character you want level boosted etc.

You're trying to pull aggro on the grammar snake boss with that thread title, aren't you.  :awesome_for_real:

Anyway, I can also give scrolls to US-Crushridge (west coast pvp server, alliance or horde), though I have no idea why anyone'd ever want to play on Crashridge.

My keyboard at work is bad, realllly bad, I'm sticking with that story.

:oh_i_see:

The character and faction transfer is optional apparently, but you may as well take advantage of it if you're in a position to.  Either way, you can get a character boosted and the sender gets the mount once you pay for the first month.  So if anyone's feeling nice and/or wants a trip to US-Wildhammer-Horde, toss me a PM with the target.

Also, time-wise (http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/scroll-of-resurrection-faq#q14):

I can send scrolls as well, transferring you to Andorfail (Andorhal, US Horde PVP EST).

If anyone wants an EU scroll I'm happy to supply, I'm on Shadowsong-EU.

If anyone wants a US scroll, with a transfer to Tichondrious Horde Side, let me know.

I'm getting my daughter to throw me a scroll

As soon as I get it I can send US-Blackrock-Horde scrolls.

I can give out scrolls to Kil'Jaeden Alliance.

It appears the transfer works for any realm the inviting player has a character on.  Doesn't say anything about needing to be 85, so if you want a different realm just ask for a character to be created on that realm.

Meanwhile I have chars on Alleria-Alliance, Zul'Jin-Horde, & Warsong-Horde

I can do Proudmoore - Horde or alliance. Come visit Paelos!

Poke him with a stick!

TBH, I still don't play much until tax season is over, but yeah I have scrolls.

I can also do Proudmoore. Note: Unofficial LGBT and Australian sever, just a heads up.

Ewww!  Who'd want to play with the Aussies!?!

My sleep schedule makes it pretty nice to play with em.

Ha. But yeah, the Aussie thing is more important; like half the server operates on a totally different schedule than everyone else. The LGBT thing is just a warning of potential drama. Been quiet for a long while probably, but the whole big thing about Blizzard banning LGBT friendly guilds started on Proudmoore.

Since I'm a dirty euro with weird playtimes, I end up playing with players from Aussie-heavy servers (Proudmoore, Jubei'thos, and one other) pretty often in LFD and LFR. I've been picking up some Aussie slang/swear words -- who said MMOs couldn't be educational?!  :why_so_serious:

The majority of the LGBT population, apparently. It's like the Sydney Mardi Gras, all the time.

Maybe.

I like it, actually. Means the server is awake 24/7. That's why I never took a server move to one of the oceanic servers when they opened them up.

Yeah, I did the Australian server thing in Rift for a while as I was exclusively playing it at insane hours.  It was rather nice.

As an Aussie, I'm too laid back to give a damn about seppos commenting on our community. Hell, we probably take the piss out of ourselves more than anyone else - we've even excused you for that really bad Simpsons episode where you had us speaking with Afrikaans accents.

BTW - Blackrock is Aussie playtime there but I also have characters on Proudmoore for when I hate PvP servers

That makes me laugh every time.  :awesome_for_real:

Mt Hyjal is a bit of a clusterfuck thanks to the scroll. Had to babysit a couple of friends who came back for this because of the constant Horde everywhere.

I suggested Vashj but I guess I'm the only one who loved that zone because no one took me seriously  :awesome_for_real:

Which side is everyone on, Alliance or Horde?

Vashj is a waste of time because you still have to go back and do Hyjal until at least the tortoise ancient to unlock the Firelands dailies.  Sure, the gear's no good now but the dailies were better-done than the ones in Deepholm.

Alliance

I'm Alliance as well. My horde characters are level ...40? and 1.

Paelos and I hang out all the time.

 :facepalm:

One of my friends who resubbed is now doing those dailies on 3 characters. Every day.

 :uhrr:

Which ones, the Deepholm ones? Ugh, yeah, they're still mandatory if you want shoulder enchants.  Blame Blizzard for not making the damn things bind-to-account.  Everyone has to see the glory of the FULL FUCKING ZONE.  :uhrr:

As far as I'm concerned, all daily quests can die in a fire.   :oh_i_see:

At least in Deepholm you can get a therazane tabard and get your rep through dungeons... 'course, to get there you need to finish the zone anyway.

inscription is like 1-2k from zero to hero from the AH. And you don't have to step in deepholm  :grin:

That cost depends entirely on the server and the market.  You're not doing that on my home server of Alleria.  I went looking to make some of the shaman runes on my scribe and stacks of old herbs cost at least as much as the cata herbs.  I was trying to make indigo ink and a stack of Khadgar's cost 50g.  Meanwhile Cinderbloom was selling for 20g/ stack min.

It was cheaper to buy the Cata herbs then trade for ink than it was to even attempt to buy enough. Crazy, eh?

You need ~2,280 total herbs to level-up inscrip.  At 20g/ stack that's at least 2,280.  You're not getting 114 stacks of any single herb off the AH and certainly not all at that price so your cost is going to be much higher.  We'll even call the parchment cost as trivial.

Exactly. That's not alchemy, you don't actually need the expensive tbc/wotlk/vanilla herbs that someone is selling for crazy prices. Just get cinderbloom from the chinease and trade down :)

I'm kinda surprised they never made those BoA like the WotLK ones eventually were.

I'm waiting on that day, I took my alt through Deepholm and leveled my main after him without ever going through it so now I'll never have shoulder enchants unless I sit through the whooooole thing again.

Silly.

WTB Proudmoore Scroll. (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/Dryope/advanced)

On the other hand, Deepholm was not an 'optional' zone. It was the only level 82-83 zone in the Cata progression, so they did not need to account for players that ran zone B instead of Deepholm. It's also the only Cata reputation worth getting to revered/exalted at this point, since every other faction reward is out-paced easily by 4.3 dungeons. Still annoying to have to do the zone, especially since you don't get out of Hated and into friendly until you're almost done. My point is that I can see the reason why they didn't feel like it was as necessary to do as the WotLK ones: it's a zone most people will do anyway, and you'd get to exalted pretty fast by wearing the tabard since none of the other reps are worth working on at this point.

It is totally optional, if you have rested xp you can easily skip the entire zone with a couple dungeons on top of one of the starter zones. It is also the least fun zone out of the 5 (subjectively speaking of course) and unlike the other factions you have to do the whole quest chain for the entire zone all the way through to even get access to the tabard. It is probably the worst bit of design in the leveling content.

I know that you can skip it (I did on two characters and had to come back at 85 for the rep), but it's not the same as WotLK where another zone entirely shared the same leveling ranges. Deepholm is more 'mandatory' than Dragonblight or Blade's Edge Mountain. The game doesn't encourage you to skip it or pretend that other options are equally beneficial for your character (which is what happened with Hyjal for players that did Vashj'ir instead). You can still skip it, but most people don't because it's the only 82-83 leveling zone. I'm not saying they shouldn't have made the shoulder enchants BoA (they should have), but it's not as big of an inconvenience for most players as the WoTLK shoulder reps were.

Subjectively I think Uldum is worse as a zone. I could barely stomach the Harrison Jones quest the first character I leveled to 85, and I haven't touched the quests in the zone on any subsequent characters.

I got to 85 on my main by doing only Hyjal, Uldum and dungeons.

On my rogue, by doing Vashj'r and Deepholm and Uldum, and almost no dungeons. Vashj'r alone got me to 83 actually because I did the entire zone-long chain.

None of the zones are really required bar 1 intro zone and 1 other zone to help you fill out.

I just got my mage to 85 yesterday be doing half (maybe a bit more) of Hyjal and dungeons. My wife is 84.5 from the same. Our war and Hunter are both 83 purely from dungeons.

That's largely because we enjoy questing together, but she's fine with me running her characters through dungeons, so this way I've been allowed to play my warrior. Later we'll go through the quests as 85s, because just running dungeons is a bit empty as far as entertainment goes..

The shaman I rolled skipped DH without exclusively running dungeons.  A guild with 10% xp, two heirlooms and rest xp plust one BRC and one Deepholm run got me to 83 before completing Hyjal.  I jumped right to Udlum because I'm so sick of DH.

Most people don't because of the stupid shoulder enchants, not because of the level range. You might as WELL slog through that boring, terrible place because like it or not, you'll have to eventually. I'm willing to bet everyone goes to Hyjal at 80 now for the same reason.

Shit, even when Cataclysm was brand new, I skipped the bulk of that zone on my character. I got about halfway through, decided I fucking hated that place, and took off and never looked back. I have no idea what level I was, but it didn't hinder my progress in the least. Luckily, she was a scribe, so it wasn't a big deal that I did that.


EDIT: I still have an active account if people want Doomhammer (Alliance) or Moon Guard (Horde), by the way. :P

I'd rather a scroll that goes 60-85 than one that goes 1-80.

We'd probably get on just fine in person or in-game. Shit, we haven't even been unpleasant to one another on here for a few years now. :heart:

Merusk makes a pretty good point. A couple of Heirlooms (or all 4 xp ones), plus guild exp bonus and the levels just fly past. Add rested and you can casually gain a level or two every time you play just by doing a LFG instance or three every few days. I blinked and my hunter went from 68-71 with three instances and the cooking/fishing quests in one non-catass session.

It's fast, but it's not QUITE as fast as that for me (I wish it was, I hate and have always hated leveling, especially the 2nd time).

I'm in the exact same level range and without rested a dungeon gives me 1/4 to 1/3 of an XP bar. Which is still great. Took me about 15 quests in Northrend and 2 dungeons to get from 68 to 69 unrested today.

My hunter was already partway through 68, 4x +exp heirlooms, guild bonus, full rested. Plus the dungeon quests clocking over from TBC dungeons to wotlk ones.

Very true. I save most of my time being unpleasant to Rokal now.  :awesome_for_real:

And also Ingmar when he's being ridiculous.

Yeah, that explains it. I have 1 xp heirloom and no guild bonus =( and ran out of rested xp.

Even if you hate people the XP bonus is worth joining one of those spam-invite guilds for, as is Mass-Rezz if you can find a L-25 guild.  Nobody says you have to interact with anyone and it's as easy to turn of the guild channel as any other.

All my alts are in a guild with 4 friends. Most of it is one friend playing his 10 lvl 85s. About to get HASTY HEARTH can't wait  :awesome_for_real:

My main is already 85 in a dinky level 25 guild that does mediocre normal-mode raiding.

So then none of you actually play together, or else your guild should be high enough to give you more bonuses.  My horde characters on Zul'jin are in a guild of people who've been together since Everquest.  There's only been 4 people playing since the guild stuff was patched-in and they're a level 21 guild because they regularly get together and do old raids or instances (I make person #5 if I'm ever on there.. which isn't often.)

So I'd ask myself at this point why are you all in a level 7 guild that's being advanced ever so slowly since you all don't group vs. using a shared chat channel while leeching off of another guild's higher level perks plus free repairs.

what. the. fuck?

It's a solid example of why Blizzard putting in the guild system was one of their dumber ideas.

Oh come on.

It was dumb. I've been against it since day one.

The implementation leaves something to be desired (guild rep  :angryfist:) but the entire system being a bad idea?

Yep. All it does is open doors for people who were happy with their guild to suddenly be unhappy with their guild.

Or in my case it gave me a bunch of nice perks for being in a guild and playing with other people. I think it was a pretty great addition to the game, and i'm looking forward to more guild levels/perks in MoP.

My guild in DDO has three people in it total. We level the guild at a snail's pace, but it's hardly game-breaking and I'd still rather have the option of slowly gaining the perks than not having perks in the game at all. Guild perks encourage you to join a guild, which is almost entirely a positive thing for both developers and players in MMOs.

Yeah, it also drove us to do some fun stuff as a group that would probably otherwise never have been organized in the first place.

My guild has a decent amount of people (20-ish), but most of us are super-uber-casual -- like "can't play more than 30min at a time and 2hrs per week tops" casual, and there's rarely more than two of us online at any time (you need 3+ for guild dungeon runs). Our guild is still sitting at level 7, despite being around since launch. It didn't help that our hardcore segment did all the leveling in the first few weeks after Cata launched when the guild XP-per-week cap was much lower... and then almost everyone stopped playing  :awesome_for_real:

We could probably level the guild faster by doing 2v2 arena (it's fairly common to see 2 people online), but meh.

I've gone round and round on the guild thing before. I've never liked it and I never will. The game worked just fine without it, and I think it's less effective with it in place. Needless to say we can add it to the laundry list of things that Rokal and Ingmar disagree with me on.

It's mostly that 1 friend (let's call him Alan) playing a shit ton like I said. Me and 2 people were unsubbed for about half of Cata, and another friend is perpetually subbed forever but basically just likes to fish and help out once in a while (seriously, he's Blizzard's perfect customer, annual pass, buys all mounts and pets, busy with job all the time).

So in terms of group activities, yeah. It's pretty much since I resubbed running a few dungeons and doing 2v2 arena a lot. Guild leveling "shot up" thanks to that.

As for the shared chat channel thing, I've been for it since day 1 and that's what we do because my main is now in a small level 25 guild so I can actually raid regularly. We used to join a bigger guild together way before guild leveling or perks ever existed, but ever since BC Alan likes his one man army guild and running the guild bank and everything. And tbh it is nice in a way to set all your own rules and mooch off his all-maxed professions  :heart:

Yeah, but I always have a feeling like I should be contributing and getting to know people if I'm in a guild. =/
Yeah, that's also a problem for us. 3 people are on pretty regularly but usually only 2 of us will want to do a heroic at a given time.

Does anyone still have a scroll of resurrection to hand out? I am unlikely to want a server transfer, but will probably sign up for atleast a month to have a look around Cataclysm zones assuming the scroll will still give a free upgrade to Cataclysm. Will PM my email id to the first person to PM me.

PM sent to Gorky

Rokal got to me first, thanks for the offer, now to see how much it still sucks to level up.

I'm seriously thinking of coming back to check out the next expansion even though I'm still subbed to TOR (I took the 6 month sub when it released).  I also miss the LFD/LFR tool, which is something TOR needs desperately imo.  Only problem is everyone I know on my old sever has quit, not to mention that my 4 lvl 85 toons have shit ass gear.  I don't feel like gearing up my dudes alone.

Edit: Looking at my account it says "Banned".  I think it has to do with my old credit card info still being used for payment.  Fuck. :argh:

They don't ban you for having expired payment info, you just don't get renewed. Your account probably got hacked.

I checked my email that I use for my account (which I hardly look at any more) and sure enough there was a message from Blizz saying they got a charge back on my credit card.  Charge backs result in automatic bans until you pay back what you owe.  I'm trying to get this sorted out but if its too frustrating or if I can't get my account unbanned then I'm completely done with WoW for good.

Edit:  Seems I was hacked and they used a stolen credit card to try and pay for it.  Its weird because I hardly use the account email for anything and I scan my computer for shit frequently.  Got everything sorted out though.  I really wish you could still pick a user name for your account rather than using an email.  I never had any problems until they switched to email account names.  Second time I've been hacked.

I just got the authenticator set up on my ipod for that reason (I've never been hacked, but I've heard enough stories about it). It's actually somewhat painless now because it usually only asks me to re-enter it if I changed IPs, or very occasionally if I haven't. You do need it every time you log into your account management page though.

I'll second that - I never had a problem with my unguessable username, and once we were forced to change to email logins, I got hacked. Since then, I use the WUA method of having a completely dedicated and isolated email address for my WoW/b.net login, which is only used for that and is changed every six months or so.

I'll be getting one for my iPhone when I get home tonight.

I did that last night and will be changing it to the new WoW only email tonight.  I had to use my regular email to take advantage of the scroll you sent me.  Thanks again for the scroll.  I will be doing the the year long sub option to take advantage of the free D3 offer.  So enjoy the new incoming sparkle pony.

I got my 85 warrior moved to Proudmore and proceeded to use up all my weekly Valor point gain through the random LFD.  Aside from taking awhile to remember how to play and not knowing any of the boss fights, everything went pretty well and I was able to get a new pair of pants with my Valor.  The dungeons seem much easier than before and I've already replaced a lot of my old gear, even getting almost enough for a decent tanking starter set.  Even manged to save a few hundred gold (the hacker left me almost broke but suprisingly with all my gear) after gemming and enchanting my new lootz.  I chatted briefly with Azazel but if anyone else is on Proudmore and wants to run dungeons with a veteran noob on an alt or something, let me know.  My warrior is named Guttspiller.

Remember they added the dungeon journal, you can quickly read about each boss before pulling.

See if Blizz can reimburse your gold as well - they're pretty good about these things. I'll have to get you tanking for my mage in some heroics next week!  :awesome_for_real:

Alliance or Horde on Proudmoore?

I have my Horde on Blackrock but am sick of PvP servers and am running an ally hunter on Proudmoore.

Alliance.  I miss my Orc warrior already. :heartbreak:

I can do Burning Legion / Alliance.

I hear you - I miss my Taurens and even my Belfs.

I got sucked back in with a Scroll. Boosted a Mage to 80 and am once again, having a lot of fun. There's a small group of us who renewed and are all playing chars that we never would have normally gotten that high. This was a pretty good way to win us back. I'm fairly impressed.

Now, someone want to tell me how to play a Frost Mage?

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2522074557

You respec as fire.  :awesome_for_real:

Kidding, the guide is a good overview of play but Lamesauce (from the thread) is correct.  It's just not as good when put against the other two specs.  Great for solo survivability and PVP control but if you're just rolling stuff PVE it doesn't measure up.   

I've tried frost and arcane on my mage so it's not 'you're not taking the spec seriously.'  I'm equally terrible at both, but in the same gear I was hitting 7kdps as frost and I hit 10-12 as arcane.

There is a good chance my Mage will never see the inside of a dungeon and right now the majority of my 'gaming group' is still in SWtOR, so solo survivability is high on my list. Mostly just going to do Cata quests to 85, PvP and 2v2/3v3 Arena stuff. Hence me going Frost.

I'm terrible at playing casters, always have been - so this was a good opportunity to try one at a higher level and I'm pleasantly surprised how much I'm enjoying it.

Having said that, my second spec is Fire.

I've always preferred ranged classes myself.  Less moving around, generally, than with melee.  I'm still learning how to play my arms warrior.  My dps in 5 man heroics is usually between 20-25k, with my gear at an ilvl of 380.  I have no idea if thats decent or not.  Haven't tried raiding yet as I don't know if my gear/dps is good enough.

Yeah, that's very decent, unless it's Well of Eternity where DPS numbers are useless to measure anything because huge amounts of it come from RPing with Illidan and Mannoroth.

There's a 15% inflation in random 5 mans because of the luck of the draw buff but those are still solid numbers.

The 20-25k dps is an average of all the heroics.  I usually reset recount after the first Illidan encounter in Well Of Eternity because the buff skews things, same with Mannoroth but by that time it doesn't really matter since its all over.  The one with Thrall following you around (slooooowly) seems to be a better indicator of dps, esp. the 1st boss.  I've gotten over 28k on him a few times.

You can probably do better, though Arms is not a simple spec, and that's a totally acceptable number for 5-mans and LFR.

If you can pull off a stance-dancing build (with macros), do so.  Mind the Sunder Armour debuff, it's a big deal.  Macro your cooldowns together and pop them as much as is warranted.  Abuse the shit out of charge, heroic leap, and intercept.

Go with either Frost or Fire as your fun spec and Arcane as your offspec. Then use the offspec in LFD dungeons. The level 80 dungeons aren't especially hard, and they can be quite good fun sometimes. There's also more quests, some loot, and rep for the various quest factions when you're wearing their tabards in the dungeons.

Well I'm playing again also.  I created a guild consisting of 6 of my alts by bribing people to invite them for me then booting them.  I consider myself uber-casual, but I play a few nights a week and have a group of toons in the 60-80 range.  The guild level is about a third of the way into level 1.  Not being able to group with other guildmates really hampers the guild XP gain (duh).

SO on that note if anyone wants to come to Echo Isles, Horde side and join my guild of mannequins hit me up!  I'll say stupid shit in /gchat and generally act like a spaz.  It will be fun!  I'd actually like to play more, if I found some cool casual folks to group with.


 

Playing again after a 1 year break.  I was amazed it had been that long until I looked at my guild status of my alts.  I have to admit it is only because my sons wanted to start playing again with friends.  Diablo III will be a conflict for me (preordered.)  I can already tell I'm going to be in trouble in too many ways to list.