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As I mentioned in the politics forum, one of my main hobbies is studying personality theory and applying it to daily life.  MBTI (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Mbti), Keirsey's Temperaments (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Keirsey), and The Enneagram (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Enneagram_of_personality) are my primary strengths, but I also know a fair bit about a dozen-ish more.  Each has a distinct focus on general patterns and tendencies of thought, feeling, and action; though none comes close to describing everything about a person.  I got into them due to having a rare personality type and feeling like an ugly duckling in life, and continued studying them for personal development, as well as better understanding of and relating to others and the world in general.  

I also enjoy talking with other people about it in general, being a hobby and all  :grin:.  If you have questions about personality typology in general (including statistics), people's actions, your own results, or anything, feel free to ask.

If you'd like to take one of these tests to see where you end up:  a pretty decent link is here (http://similarminds.com/personality_tests.html). 
(edit : this link (http://similarminds.com/embj.html) will assess you on Enneagram and MBTI at the same time, MBTI is here (http://similarminds.com/jung.html), Enneagram is here (http://similarminds.com/test.html))
Results descriptions: here for MBTI (http://www.personalitypage.com/html/portraits.html) and here for the Enneagram (http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/descript.asp).

Me : MBTI - INFJ, Enneagram - 1w9 sp.

A couple of topics already mentioned:


iNtuitive types (MBTI xNxx) have a general mental orientation to the future, and are the likeliest people to understand the quagmire we are in regarding sustainability.  By most measures of the US (and possibly world) population, only 15 to 25 percent of the population are wired this way.  This presents an inherent challenge when talking about future problems, especially ones that call for solutions that call for wide-sweeping reforms to "the way we've always done things."  Such reforms will generally alienate the 45% of people who are SJs (Keirsey's Guardians), who are hard-wired to generally want to preserve the status quo.

In short, pick your audience carefully.  There is no "converting everyone," unless the crisis is here, in which case the Sensors (MBTI xSxx) will have something tangible to work with as well.


Engineers tend have Te (Extroverted Thinking) as one of their first two functions, which means that their Feeling (Ethical) functions are further down the list.  This means that they are generally not consistently and consciously used until midlife at the earliest, and "never" in some cases.

I was pretty obsessed with MBTI when I was younger.  I used to post regularly on intpcentral.com and was pretty into that community/MBTI category (specifically NT types, which dominate nerdy internet message boards anyways).  The older I got, the less I cared however.  It did really help me at the time in understanding other people and social situations, but it was basically just a stepping stone in realizing that, hey, other people relate to themselves and the world in a genuinely different manner than you do.  

Yeah, and I still test straight up INTP, basically the same results for the last 6 years.  Pretty funny that when I was 19 I oscillated between INTP/INFP.  Turns out that was just hormones and being an emo teenager :)

Jebus that's a lot of tests...I took the first link there.  My results:



I'd say that's a fairly accurate assessment.  Care to recommend a test to take?

Interesting - I tend to fip-flop between INTP and INTJ. No idea what that really means, though.

Updated the original post with direct links to some specific tests.

On flipping between INTP and INTJ - Keirsey's stuff says this is possible, but according to MBTI it's not.  INTP functions are Ti Ne Si Fe, and INTJs use Ni Te Fi Se - nearly backwards from each other.  In general, are you more about brainstorming or execution?  You can also check the link I posted above about the MBTI results descriptions and see which one fits you better.

I first took an MBTI about 8-9 years ago and take one on occasion for shits and grins - always comes back INTJ, though.

MBTI says that I am ENFP with intuitive and sensing almost 50/50 and everything else being pretty much a 65/35 split.

Seems about right to me. Over the last 10 years or so, that result would have varied quite wildly.

I used to be INTJ, but in the last few years I have moved to ISTJ.  I think being married with kids has expanded my sensitivity to others quite a lot.

Don't you feel that for most people these tests more accurately describe what a person wants to be perceived as instead of what they actually are?

edit - This goes double or triple when they are used as a part of the hiring process.

edit2 - INTP for me, odd that it lists school teaching as a disfavored career, the older I get the more I seem to enjoy teaching/mentoring.  Then again a bit of teaching and mentoring is not the same as having to be on stage 6-8 hours a day, that might require some hermit level down time for me to recharge.

Yes.  Most intelligent people know immediately what a question is looking for and will answer to match their perceived expectation. 

Very VERY few people have enough self esteem to be 100% honest, 100% of the time. 

Completely honest with my answers. I suppose that comes as no surprise to anyone that knows me.

That is what they all say!  A major part of being deluded is not realizing it, as Nebu says most of us are somewhat full of shit most of the time w/o even realizing it.

I don't think the MBTI stuff has any scientific validity. The history of it is pretty interesting - in short it's a product.

I always find discussions about this somewhat interesting, because it almost always seems to be someone who tested as an INFJ that brings it up.  I've never been able to tell if this is some sort of wish fulfillment sort of thing or pseudo bragging for being in the 1% or under club, or self validation that they really are special.  I say this as someone that came up INFJ on the full test over a decade ago in a class in college, and that still bounces between that and INFP on the short form online tests with really vaguely scoped questions.

INTJ, the same as when I started dental school 15 years ago. 

ISTP. I hate people and think most of them are wrong until proven otherwise  :awesome_for_real:

I did this for my intro back to college class recently.  I'm an INTJ (Mastermind, ha!) and a type 5 sp.

I realize that we can't read too much into it, but the results defined me perfectly.   My wife is very extroverted and she gives me shit all the time about not wanting to do things with people.  After taking all these tests I just pointed at them and told her that it explains a lot.  I think it helped her understand me a little better, too.  

Another good test we took was a Learning Styles test, which helped to explain lots about the way I learn (tactile/kinesthetic).  I was always bored as hell with reading material or lecture, but get me some tools and put my hands on the work... and I'll go to town.  

Odd.  This is the first time I've taken this test and gotten ISTP.  Usually INTJ, I think or INTP. 

Adventuresome is not something I'd use to describe myself. The introverted, loyal, emotionally stunted part mostly fits, however.

There's a schism within some typology communities about this.

MBTI is a tool of self-validation - you make the call as to what your type is.  Empiricists, such as David Keirsey, believe that one's actions better determine one's true personality, and so neutral observers are a better guide.  In either case, test-retest reliability is only about 67% on MBTI and related tests, several types will consistently mistype themselves (SJs - again, they're nearly 1 in 2, so that's a lot of people), and as mentioned, if you know the system you can tailor your answers to get the result that you want.

These days I almost never hand someone a test to take, I observe them in-person interacting with others and maybe ask them a few obscure questions to see how they respond.  Can't really do that here, hence the exception.  In any case, the test is a starting point, your best-fit type is the ending point.

I find it interesting that a bunch of INxx people are socializing on a internet forum.  That's a form of extroversion. 

Not really because none of you actually exist.

I had this odd dream the other night where most of the people on this board were actually just one guy, with lots of different alternate personalities. 

If several folks on these forums talked to me in person like they do here, I'd seriously have to hold back from punching them in the face.  Murgos has it right.  

Took that first test.

It put me as an INTJ, which is what I usually get these days.  I used to test as INTP, and still tend to hover between the two to some extent; this test had me at 58.82% Judging vs 41.18% Perceiving, which is the closest split for any of the axes(?).

I don't think I've done the Enneagram thing before.  It said I'm a "3 so/sx/sp"?  I was confused by being labeled an "image-aware achiever," since that conjures a mental image of someone in a suit (not me at all), until I read "this comes at the price of having a personal identity" and thought "oh hey, this is what my shrink keeps warning me about."   :awesome_for_real:

What a primitive social response! We should analyze this.  :grin:

It's a form of extroversion that doesn't have any of the baggage of actually having to deal with someone's visual cues, for me.  For some reason it helps me distance myself from the mental backlash of dealing with people.

INTP/INTJ (50/50), in former tests I went firmly into INTP.

And the fact that INxx people socialize here is not really strange. Its the control you have over the conversations that makes this possible. You choose when to interact and to what extent.

The second test ist equal parts 2 and 5 (70%/17), which is also odd. I buy the 5 (totally), but I'm wary about the 2.

Edit: Well, the combined test puts me squarely in the INTJ (55% vs 45%) area with a solid 5 (60%/18) with a 9 at second place (53%/16)


As always, I am wary of these tests.

Edit: Because weary is something entirely different than wary.

People are actually doing the Enneagram test, awesome.   :awesome_for_real:

Enneagram 3s are about what they achieve rather than who they are, and get uncomfortable showing anything past that.  Enneagram 5s are the stereotypical INTJ - withdrawn types who are perfectly comfortable not interacting with others regularly, building up expertise in one subject area.

My Enneagram type is 1 - the Perfectionist.  I edit and re-edit posts for proper wording, spell-check everything, and generally will not espouse an opinion unless I can fully back it up.  I'm not as rigid about it as I used to be, though, but still have very high standards for myself.

Heh, I'm a 6 on that.  Which seems to fit, except for the reason they give is contradictory for with the rest of my results, in my opinion.  Interesting take on me at the very least.

Thanks for starting the thread minvaren. I got a ISTJ - is that weird for someone with a Physics and Engineering background? Got a 2 on my first test then a 5 on the next one.

ISTJ is Si (Introverted Sensing) and Te (Extroverted Thinking) up first - meaning you form a database of physical experiences to compare new things to, interact with the world in a detail-oriented fashion, and do things step-by-step.  Sounds like an Engineer to me.   :-)


Try this link (http://pstypes.blogspot.com/2010/01/chilhood-scenarios-for-enneatypes-law.html) for a better description of how/why you're a certain Enneagram type.  You seem responsive in general to me, so half of that seems to fit already.  It certainly nailed my childhood, in any case.

INTP

I say flip-flop because for some of the categories, I score dead-center on the spectrum, and recognize that how I might answer some of the questions could change day to day, depending on mood and such. Regardless, they both sound pretty accurate for me.

Well, except for the introvert - I scored max on that one. Though oddly, a ton of people IRL didn't believe me when it came out. I should talk to my counselor at work, and see where she thinks I score generally.

I am, in fact, an engineer. How did it know? :awesome_for_real:

ENTJ - "Field Marshall". The basic driving force and need is to lead. Tend to seek a position of responsibility and enjoys being an executive. 1.8% of total population.

Type 3 w/ Self-Pres Deviancy.


The Enneagram is a personality system which divides the entire human personality into nine behavioral tendencies, this is your score on each...

Type 1    Perfectionism    ||||||||||||||||    63%
Type 2    Helpfulness    ||||||||||    36%
Type 3    Image Awareness    ||||||||||||||||||    76%
Type 4    Sensitivity    ||||||||||||||||    66%
Type 5    Detachment    ||||||||||||||    60%
Type 6    Anxiety    ||||||||||||||||    70%
Type 7    Adventurousness    ||||||||||||||    60%
Type 8    Aggressiveness    ||||||||||||    48%
Type 9    Calmness    ||||||||||||    50%


Bigger picture, with only 1.8% of the pop with the same personality, that sort of explains why I always feel like the 3rd wheel or slightly out of step.  I do love being the leader.

Its magic! :awesome_for_real:

Basically as others have said i think its giving you what you want: romatically shy introvert, courageous leader, etc etc.

My cards are Justice and Death.

Sup with all you introverts eh?


For the reasons folk have stated already, I find it too easy to read too much into this sort of thing; it's impossible to do the questions without second-guessing the outcomes a bit, and MTBI has very little scientific rigor. Fun though nonetheless.

edit: Heh, type 9, Calmness eh? I guess that fits with how I see myself in real life.

ISTP also, though I'm borderline between I and E.  I think that just comes from being both a scientist and a gamer. 

"Promotor"? I think that's a boss in WoW.

Was he as sexual as I (apparently) am though?  :awesome_for_real:

You always struck me more as a Tower sort, with the way you murder electronics.

(now that I can see Schild's response...)

In this case, I think Schild is closer to right than wrong.  He's definitely an Enneagram 8 and xxTJ, though I pegged him as ENTJ rather than ESTJ.  ESTJs tend to call someone an idiot and move on, whereas ENTJs stop to deconstruct what others did wrong in detail with glee.

(edit : rephrasing)

ISTJ - "Trustee". Decisiveness in practical affairs. Guardian of time- honored institutions. Dependable. 11.6% of total population

Why it decided to give me ISTJ when E/I where a 50/50 split, I don't know.  Even the E was bolded.

Type 8, variant is sexual (sx/so/sp).

Type 1 Perfectionism |||||||||||||||||||| 83%
Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||| 36%
Type 3 Image Awareness |||||||||||||||||| 80%
Type 4 Sensitivity |||||| 30%
Type 5 Detachment |||||||||||| 50%
Type 6 Anxiety |||||||||||| 46%
Type 7 Adventurousness |||||||||||||||||| 73%
Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||||||||||||||||| 86%
Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||||||||| 73%


type score type behavior motivation
8 26  I must be strong and in control to be happy.
1 25  I must be perfect and good to be happy.
3 24  I must be impressive and attractive to be happy.
7 22  I must be fun and entertained to be happy.
9 22  I must maintian a peaceful and easygoing environment to be happy

The MBTI test that was linked was (no offence Minvaren) not anything like the official 93 question one. The questions are much less personal - no "I am very introspective" type questions. I thought I still had a copy of one I took somewhere but wasn't to hand so this is the nearest (http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp) I can find to the questions I remember being asked. They're more indirect.

That being said, it's still just a tool (an indicator) and yeah, it's a product. Also, the four letter result doesn't accurately represent the balance of a personality. You might be ESTP but the T might be 51% and 49% F, indicating a balance between rational and emotional decision making. (Again, the scoring in the proper test means you can get those figures).

And yeah, I'm INTP (or Keirsey's Architect or whatever the other one was I did last year that gave me an Analyst/Problem-solver result).

INFP, but nothing above 60%. So I would probably test as something very different were I to do it again in a different mood.

When I tested at the start of secondary school/end of primary I was ENTP or ENTJ I think. A lot of the difference comes from learned behaviour (who knew bullying made you more introverted?!). If I answered the questions as if I spent all my time with my close friends/family I expect I would swing back to E. Also I haven't been as obsessed with maths as I was then for 15 years now...

Type 7 sexual variant. Whatever that means?


Pretty even split for me across all things.

We're up to a whole 4 NFs now.   :awesome_for_real:

Enneagram sevens are all about the fun, and are upbeat and positive people in general.  Though I must say, scoring highly on several categories can also be a general sign of a type Nine - Nines tend to "merge" with others around them and adopt their perspectives/values instead of identifying and displaying their own.  INFPs are also predominantly Enneagram 4s and 9s, for what it's worth (but any MBTI type can be any Enneagram type).

On the variants, they identify primary focus in life - SX (sexual) are focused on intimacy and novel/exciting experiences, SP (self-preservation) are focused on survival needs - health, home, and such, and SO (social) types focus on their social circles and how they are perceived within them.

(edit : perfectionism)

Kinda wish I could take the Stage 2 MBTI, which I understand goes into far more depth with subtypes and such.

ISTP fits pretty well, as the S and P are near balanced.

The explanations for the Enneagram test make sense, although I don't think people are necessarily as cut and dried as their three categories.  Overall I'm a Neutral type, but when it came to my parents I could be highly Responsive.  My dad would be Neutral with some of the positive aspects of Responsive.  My mom would be Responsive with some of the negative aspects of Active.  A 6 > 2 > 1 > 5 fits those combinations impressively well.  Though thankfully prozac helps a ton for dealing with the "I must be secure and safe to be happy" aspects.  The other three I consider positives to my personality.

I'm surprised I'm social, but that is something which has flourished in recent years, so the order doesn't seem odd as I reflect upon it.

Wrote a long post at 3 per mille alcohol level on a tuesday night. Then figuered out this is not what you need, and continued to post some useless drivel anyway.......i'm like the sw:tor thread!

Death means change.  At least that's what I am going with, if we are going to ignore the bum power strip. :awesome_for_real:

Also, cusp of Rat and Ox.

As a Metal Dog, Chinese Astrology helpfully pointed out that my natural enemy was the Dragon.

I wish I had found that out about 10 years earlier, when I worked for one.   :uhrr:

Even here you are getting the facade they show the world.

Feb 2? 3?

ENTP, surprise. Type 4 sx.

INTP. I've always scored strongly as an INT; P/J is usually closer but I definitely seem more like a P now.

Never heard of Enneagram before but I'm a self-preserving 9 (calmness). Would have thought my 6 (anxiety) score would be a bit higher, but I can see how the 6 and 9 traits could both manifest as what I typically think of as "anxiety".

Also Leo, Dragon, and Forer poster child.

You're going to get kicked out of the Leo club with an introverted score like that.

OT: The Creativity of Anger (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/08/the-creativity-of-anger/) (with Steve Jobs anecdotes!)

Hi there !

My test is broken or I did it wrong  :why_so_serious: :

ISFP - "Artist". Interested in the fine arts. Expression primarily through action or art form. The senses are keener than in other types. 8.8% of total population.

Jan 5, so maybe more rat.

Nines "disintegrate" to Six under stress, and "integrate" to Three when healthy - my guess is that you get anxious when life is stressful, and can be highly productive when you are in a good/great mood.  You also scored highest on the three Withdrawn categories of the Enneagram (3/5/9), which as lamaros mentioned is a bit unusual for a Leo...

I can't do these tests, I keep thinking, well it depends.

Did the short movie as I expected lots of cinema questions and got this.

(http://images.similarminds.com/movie/6.jpg)

Are there any situation type question tests or is it all like this?

Im rat.

About what I expected:

Introverted (I) 75% Extroverted (E) 25%
Intuitive (N) 55.26% Sensing (S) 44.74%
Thinking (T) 60% Feeling (F) 40%
Perceiving (P) 66.67% Judging (J) 33.33%
 

Your type is: INTP
 


INTP - "Architect". Greatest precision in thought and language. Can readily discern contradictions and inconsistencies. The world exists primarily to be understood. 3.3% of total population. 

A quick Google found this one (http://www.helloquizzy.com/tests/the-situational-mbti-test) as a situational MBTI test, but its accuracy is somewhat dubious.  Might be worth a shot as a start, though.

It's interesting to see that the majority of people here appear to be Ti (Introverted Thinking) types - xxTP, in other words.  Ti is about constructing and utilizing logical frameworks/systems, which dovetails into the theorycrafting that this site seems to be heavy on.  xxFJs also utilize Ti, but come to it a bit later in life (like me), and to a lesser extent in general.

Ah.  Because I'm literally on the cusp.  One calendar had Rat ending on the 1st and Ox begining on the 3rd because apparently the new moon was two days long that year.  I'd like to find someone really into Chinese astrology to see if they know anything about it.

It's funny because for years I thought I was an Ox, then I found out I was a Rat, or some weird Rat-Ox-void hybrid.

I guess that's kinda spot on.

Apparently I'm a type 8 that can be a domineering tyrant and my variant is sexual.   :awesome_for_real:

I'm finding it mildly hilarious that those with the lower "Perfectionisim" scores are leaving that space in when it they cut & paste, while those with the higher have gone back to edit it out.

It totally missed my obsessive perfectionism, but I think I mis-interpreted 'orderly'. My desk is a jungle of crap lying about, but it's clean and I can find everything almost instantly. So I guess it's orderly, if you don't go by a standard definition.

Because I'm a closet raging perfectionist...not so closeted for anyone who has read the guitar thread, though :) And other than art and music, I'm pretty easy going about most things, though I do tend to obsess about construction, going way above and beyond what I need to get the job done.

WATER RAT

Though I think that means I'm a nutria.

Enneagram 4s "integrate" to 1, which means when you are at your healthiest/in your element, you'll show signs of perfectionism.  As far as neat ENTPs, that's generally an oxymoron.   ;D  Perceivers (xxxP) in general are mildly to majorly cluttered, but can find anything in said clutter quickly. 

One of the many INFJ descriptions that fits me perfectly is a tidy household/work area with a single area of clutter.  At home it''s the kitchen counter, at work it's this table behind my desk where I bench-test stuff.

Dog sign, and I'm totally not. Also Aries...much more believable.

Thanks, ENFP was the result but there were only 6 questions.

INTP is what I usually test on Myers-Briggs.

Enneagram Type 4, variant self pres.

Also: Wood Dragon. Most descriptions of which actually fit me pretty closely. Even though astrology is bollocks. (or about as bollocks/not bollocks at Myers-Briggs, really.)

I usually test out as INTJ. I am pretty deeply sceptical of all of this nonsense, though. (Is that reflected in being INTJ?  :why_so_serious:)

INTJ is the "scientist", so yeah. 

The INTJ is pretty much what I always have gotten from taking that test.  The Enneagram test was a new one, though.  Still fairly accurate, in general.

The main issue I take with tests like these, aside from the fact that most people have something of an idealized image of themselves, is that there isn't much allowance made for nuance in the answers.  Similar to what Sky said about being his desk being disorganized, but being able to find things in the mess.  To anyone other than myself, my desk looks like a disaster area, but I know where everything is at in all the apparent chaos.  At work, though, my desk was very organized, at least to me.  Who knows, maybe I'm just over-thinking it.  

Is there a category for people who start to take the test but stop after 3 questions because it looks long?

My experience is that Perceivers (xxxP) are generally the most skeptical of any sort of typology.  "There's NO WAY that any of these systems could describe me!  You can't describe a WHOLE PERSON with a simple label!  I'm a beautiful, unique snowflake!"  A whole person?  No.  Some traits, tendencies, and preferences?  Yeah.

Thinkers (xxTx) in general, and especially NTs (Rationals) are skeptical of anything that can't be empirically proved.  INTJs also lead with Ni (Introverted iNtuition), which has been described as a giant web inside of you about how everything relates to everything else conceptually.  It can take some time to get new data, ideas, and concepts to fit into the web, but once they're there, they're there for good and you can use them without thinking about it.  As such, lead Ni-types (INxJ) are quite reluctant to revisit topics which they've deemed "settled" in the past.


Edited just for you - the 4-question version (http://www.personalitypathways.com/type_inventory.html).   :awesome_for_real:

Let me know if there is.  I was all 'Wait, why am I doing this again ?  I know who I am.'

Throw me in with the rest of you INTP lot. For what it's worth, the description seems to fit.

INFP is the usual, and lo!

Introverted (I) 54.29% Extroverted (E) 45.71%
Intuitive (N) 66.67% Sensing (S) 33.33%
Feeling (F) 62.5% Thinking (T) 37.5%
Perceiving (P) 80.65% Judging (J) 19.35%



Ingmar likes me anyway, for some reason.  :oh_i_see:

For the other test:


Said I'm a type two, with my variant being SOCIAL. Which. OK then!

Well, you talk to your sims, don't you, and your Dragon Age crew have rich love lives don't they?

Sjofn is a social hub in every community she joins. I'm being totally sincere.

This made me laugh and laugh. You may have a point. :heart:


I LIEK TALK

Or I LIEK LISTEN anyway. People tell me shit. Their secrets. THEIR PRECIOUS SECRETS. Mwahaha! Ahem.

Don't pick on Sjofn for her Myers Brigs scores. I am an INFP too :P We're touchy feely and proud of it!

I'm not sure what to think of this one...

(http://images.similarminds.com/5.gif)

Might explain your MMO leveling habits.  :awesome_for_real:

It's my inner world!

Enneagram 5s are withdrawn sorts.  They are the prototypical "hermit" (unless they marry a socializer), tend to withdraw from conflict instead of engage in it, and also tend to focus on refining a specific unique set of knowledge.  A bit longer description is here (http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/TypeFive.asp), and descriptions of all Enneagram types can be found here (http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/descript.asp).

Seems to fit on the surface, as you don't go punching people out in the Politics forum, Nebu.  You're also quite the knowledgeable sort about physiology in general...

I'm sure being a doctor helps with that  :awesome_for_real:

Nebu avoid conflict?  Perish the thought.

It's not like he apologizes should someone act even mildly offended by what he says...

Half the time he edits his posts before anyone reads them JUST IN CASE.

Enneagram is a new one to me. Still mulling over being a "4". INTP by comparison is an old label.

I hate you guys.  You're all correct... but I still hate you. 

 :heart:

I find that offensive, sir.

Enneagram Sixes do tend to take criticism as a complete rejection of who they are.   :wink:


As far as an INTP and Enneagram 4, that's a very rare combination.  Five with a four wing is much more common, and still shows some traits of 4, but not sure how close your scores were in order to say so.  Fours are born romantics, iconoclasts, enjoy art, and can be quite dramatic, moody, and intense at times.  As a One, under stress I "disintegrate" to four, and I become quite emo and "what's it all worth?" in those moods.

I feel so happy that someone else is like meeee!  :awesome_for_real:

Let's go do something impulsive because it just feels right, man.

We still love you.
 :heart: ;D

Yeah, that doesn't really seem right for me. I found some of the questions frustrating.

That got a good chuckle!  :grin:

Enneagram is about childhood upbringing and core fears, from my perspective.  As a One, I don't want to be wrong or deemed "lacking morality."  Fours don't want to be not-special (ie - "Mundane"), Fives don't want to seem incompetent.  It's annoying as heck, but knowing your blind/weak spots in life is a good thing overall.

So if I'm nearly equally all of them does that mean I'm perfect and without flaw?

Because that sounds about right.

That typically means you're a Type 9 (http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/TypeNine.asp), as they identify with everyone reflexively.

I was making a funny, pretty sure I have always tested near to type 8/7 on that thing. Trying to be a better person has made me more considerate and futzed it up.  :heartbreak:

So i took the enneagram one, and got:

Type 1 Perfectionism |||||||||||||||| 66%
Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||||||| 58%
 Type 3 Image Focus |||||||||||||||||||| 86%
 Type 4 Hypersensitivity |||||||||| 38%
 Type 5 Detachment |||||||||||||| 58%
 Type 6 Anxiety |||||||||||||||| 70%
 Type 7 Adventurousness |||||||||||||||||| 74%
 Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||||||||||||||||| 82%
 Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||| 46%

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Ah, with this explanation my five makes even more sense.

Now the only question that remains is why I slided from INTP to INTJ and why I find that troubling.

I'm retarded, where do I find out my number?

Type 8 bitches.

I am your leader. Worship me. I demand fine meats and cheeses!

Check the first post in the thread for a link to to a test.   :oh_i_see:

I am not a number!  I am a free (wo)man!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tb8Jo11uGo

Awww black spandex and a red wife beater. Those were the days!

I got a 2 Enneagram Type as well. Heh.

Although it is funny that you are drawn to impulsive actions that just 'feel' right. That's not really me at all. I think its my catholic upbringing. If it feels good, it must be seriously seriously wrong.

ISTJ.  I'm not entirely sure I agree with it.

Introverted (I) 62.5% Extroverted (E) 37.5%
Sensing (S) 50% Intuitive (N) 50%
Thinking (T) 52.78% Feeling (F) 47.22%
Judging (J) 51.43% Perceiving (P) 48.57%

Turns out I am officially the kind of guy who makes the coffee.  


Introverted (I) 71.43% Extroverted (E) 28.57%
Intuitive (N) 66.67% Sensing (S) 33.33%
Feeling (F) 56.41% Thinking (T) 43.59%
Judging (J) 58.06% Perceiving (P) 41.94%

Your type is: INFJ  - "Author". Strong drive and enjoyment to help others. Complex personality. 1.5% of total population.   :ye_gods:

Enneagram Test Results

Type 1  Perfectionism    ||||||||||||||||               62%
Type 2    Helpfulness    ||||||||||||          46%
Type 3    Image Focus    ||||||||||||          42%
Type 4    Hypersensitivity    ||||||||||||||||||    78%
Type 5    Detachment    ||||||             22%
Type 6    Anxiety    ||||||||||||||||||||               82%
Type 7    Adventurousness    ||||||||||||       50%
Type 8    Aggressiveness    ||||||||||||||            54%
Type 9    Calmness    ||||||||||                  38%


Your main type is Type 6.   Your variant is social

type    score    type behavior motivation
6    20     I must be secure and safe to be happy.
4    19     I must be unique/different to be happy.
1    15     I must be perfect and good to be happy.
8    13     I must be strong and in control to be happy.
7    12     I must be fun and entertained to be happy.
2    11     I must be helpful and caring to be happy.
3    10     I must be impressive and attractive to be happy.
9    9     I must maintian a peaceful and easygoing environment to be happy.
5    5     I must be knowledgable and independent to be happy.

Whoa, another INFJ!   :awesome_for_real:


Not sure I do either.  As you split S/N 50/50, maybe look at INTJ?

INTP. I'm with Minvaren -- psychology has been a personal interest of study. I've been attempting to learn how different people see things in order to better understand and get along with others. Studying Jung and Myers-Brigg has brought me a little closer.

Specifically, that strength Bunk mentioned ("Can readily discern contradictions and inconsistencies") has been something I've been trying to temper and control when dealing with people. Injuring egos and inadvertently isolating myself from the world comes too easy with that as a strength.

I get along far, far better with people of a similar temperament. It's almost psychic how I can identify these people, but it may be that there is a mutual "They write / speak / conduct themselves just like me!" that brings people together. Understanding Introversion has made it far easier to see the difference between disinterest and being stoic because you aren't thinking about it how you're presenting yourself.

I'm a leader type who drinks coffee. We need to get together! Our powers combined would be awesome.

Holy Jesus.

Yes.  I would agree I am an INTJ.

I'm an ESTJ.

ESTJs are take-charge people. They have such a clear vision of the way that things should be, that they naturally step into leadership roles. They are self-confident and aggressive. They are extremely talented at devising systems and plans for action, and at being able to see what steps need to be taken to complete a specific task. They can sometimes be very demanding and critical, because they have such strongly held beliefs, and are likely to express themselves without reserve if they feel someone isn't meeting their standards. But at least their expressions can be taken at face-value, because the ESTJ is extremely straight-forward and honest.

Absolutely true.

Ha, I'm not actually, it just seemed like the thing to say! I was raised Catholic as well, so usually when I do that I have the Guilt. And then Ingmar gets all BE RATIONAL BITCH and we get in a fistfight.

(We ... don't actually get in a fistfight. I'd fuckin' own him.)

I'm a six! My shadow scares me  :sad:

I retook the test to look at the enneagram thing because I missed it the first time.  Apparently I'm now an ISTP.  Actually, my S/N is pretty much 50/50 and seems to go back and forth these days.  In dental school I was more of a 70/30 INTP.  My enneagram was type 8, which I'm not sure describes me but my wife may agree that it does.   :ye_gods: 


It appears that some examples of type 8s (http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/typeeight.asp) are MLK, Jr., Sinatra, Roseanne Barr, Donald Trump and Lee Iacoca.   :drill:

Oh, that page shows I'm a definite six (http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/TypeSix.asp).

Me too! With a self preservation variant!

Type 1   Perfectionism    ||||||||||||||||   66%
Type 2   Helpfulness                ||||||   26%
Type 3   Image Awareness      ||||||||||||   43%
Type 4   Sensitivity          ||||||||||||   43%
Type 5   Detachment       ||||||||||||||||   66%
Type 6   Anxiety          ||||||||||||||||   66%
Type 7   Adventurousness      ||||||||||||   46%
Type 8   Aggressiveness     ||||||||||||||   60%
Type 9   Calmness           ||||||||||||||   53%

type   score   type behavior motivation
1   20    I must be perfect and good to be happy.
5   20    I must be knowledgable and independent to be happy.
6   20    I must be secure and safe to be happy.
8   18    I must be strong and in control to be happy.

I think? I ranked 20 in 3 different types? I don't even get it.

ISTJ, or ISTP, I gues it's 50/50

Introverted (I) 58.33% Extroverted (E) 41.67%
Sensing (S) 58.97% Intuitive (N) 41.03%
Thinking (T) 80% Feeling (F) 20%
Perceiving (P) 50% Judging (J) 50%


The only thing clear from all those numbers is that is that fuck y'all, your problems ain't my problems.

Your problems are all in your head. ;D

Huh. I remember doing these tests many years ago, and I always came out as INFJ.

Now apparently I'm ISTP (Type 9, sp/so/sx on the main test - advanced enneagram test put me as a Type 2, sp/so/sx). Since my earlier tests my political and religious views have changed pretty radically also (conservative catholic to lefty liberal atheist). Perhaps I had a stroke.  :why_so_serious:

I'm surprised you're brave enough to post on the internet.   :awesome_for_real: