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 The Pre-Season Five Feeder League Drilling and Manliness Trophy

With half of the coaches now out of main league it seems like a good time to start a close-season league for those who really need to keep up their blood bowl intake.

I'm going to suggest that rather than create a separate league, we just play out a organised competition in the feeder league, that way we can all keep playing f13 matches with the teams we use after the competition is done with.

The basic format:

 :drill: All matches will be played within the feeder league - to take part your team needs to meet the feeder league rules and get into that league.
 :drill: One team per coach (post in this thread).
 :drill: Matches and standings will be announced in a thread here.
 :drill: Matches will be determined on a swiss tournament (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament) basis.
 :drill: We'll play out six rounds, team with the most points at the end of that time takes the trophy, or a playoff will split a tie.
 :drill: You can still play other feeder league matches with your D&M trophy team if you want.
 :drill: I can't see any reason that participation would block your team from a future main league season but Falc can pronounce I guess.


As discussed in another thread , the advantage of a swiss system is that after the first round we'll increasingly be playing matches against teams at the same ability level, plus we should get to an overall winner by the time season 5 is ready, and by doing out of a feeder league we can cope with just about any number of coaches - though an even number would be nice.

Current Lineup:

Ermine Vermin	(eldaec)
Calidor Fancypants	(Modern Angel)
Blue Line	(Bann)
F13 Pro Elves for Hoes	(Comstr)
Festering Wounds	(Sky)
Emperors of the Pitch	(Ruvaldt)
Howls and Bones	(HaemishM)
Kenosha Maroons	(proudft)
Fianna Chulain	(IainC)
Sons on the West	(Hoax)
Going Forth By Day	(Ingmar)
The Fantasticks	(Sjofn)
SPHINX	(Celer)
Sissyfaced Nancies	(Strazos)
Court of the Moon	(Gruntle)
Aery Faery's (sic)	(Ulysees)
~something crazy~	(Andy Davo)
Lesser Immortals	(Lamaros)
Midnight Bleat Train	(Drogg)
Stir Fry	(Avaia)
BridgeBurners	(Carnifex27)
Pound Pound Mantrain	(Megrim)

Competition starts 00:01 Johannesburg time 27th July

I am completely good with this.

In with my Helves

This sounds like a good idea. Just created a new team and applied to the feeder league for this.

Blue Line - Chaos - Bann

I'm in with the F13 Pro Elves.

This is an awesome idea. I have to pass because I will be traveling for the whole month of August, but I am gonna be a bit envious about you folks.

Also, participation won't prevent teams to get into the Main League in the future. As long as they respect the rules of the Feeder League there is nothing in the D&M that would make a team unelegible (the 1250 TV limit is still in effect, although it might be raised before Season #6).

The only way to fuck up your team and make it permanently inelegible for the Main League is if it plays a match outside of the f13 circuit. One single match out of our racket, and it's done.

Festering Wounds in.

Does that mean that, for organization's sake, we could pull the teams out, put them in our own little Swiss League, and then bop them back over to the Feeder League later? Unless that's already happened and I'm misreading.

Swiss league is a manually organised league within the feeder league, so it meets Falc's requirements of f13 circuit only.

I.e. Feeder League
Or main league  :oh_i_see:

I am soooo in.  I was just saying to Ingmar last night that we needed a smaller side tournament, and eldaec answers my prayers.

I'm not sure which team I'll be playing though...

Yes, the way I understand it is that you play regular Feeder League matches, with point calculations made outside the game system by Eldaec himself, like, scribbled with a pencil on a scrap of paper.

I'm in. I'll put in my Necromantic team, Howls and Bones.

Falc, one thing I'd like to talk about is raising the TV limit on moving teams from the Feeder League to the main league for Season 5. Since at lot of teams will be either carryovers from as far back as season 1 or 2, why not raise the TV limit to 1350 for Season 5? Right now, I've got a Chaos team at 1220 and my Skaven team is at 1100. With the 1250 limit, I'm soon to be unable to play either of them without bumping up against the limit in case I want to use them later.

That is indeed the plan, at least metaphorically. Though I could designate an official pencil and piece of paper if that helps.

New teams only, or any ol' team in the feeder league?  If the latter, the Kenosha Maroons would like to join.

Anything in the feeder league.

Then rather beat-up but slightly-skilled-up goblin justice shall be yours!   :grin:

I'll be in with my Wood Elves - Fianna Chulain

I'm in, I'll pick a team at the latest possible moment though if that's ok I have only played one game in the last bunch of months. If you need me to pick which team to use Eld just pm me on steam and I'll make a choice.

I'll play my terrible khemri team Going Forth By Day, since there's no chance I'll ever take them to the real league anyway.

I'll play on my shitty high elf team, WHY NOT.


EDIT: To specify, my shitty high elf team is THE FANTASTIKS. Or possibly the Fantasticks. Pretty sure it's without the 'c' though.

What are you implying, sir!

Also in with my terrible khemri team!

I'll be playing my new Human team, the Emperors of the Pitch.

Fuck it, why not - mark my elves, Sissyfaced Nancies, down as in.

I'll offer up my d. elfs, Court of the Moon for everyone's defeating pleasures.

In with my woodelves - Aery Faery's.

Looks like we're quorate. I plan to post the first round of matches on Wednesday, so if those who haven't picked a team could do so Tuesday latest, that'd be grand. More signups also welcome of course.

Personally I'm torn between amazon, dwarf, skaven, goblin, ogre or halfling.  :uhrr:

can i  use my old DE's? the one's that got retired. if not i will roll with a new wood elf team, yet to be made / decided

They only played in the main league, right? Should be fine.

From the OFFICIAL Feeder League Rules (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=20399.msg892782#msg892782):


Read the part after the "but" too. Essentially though, you can demote a team. Now, Eladec being OK with Andy's Wishmasters Wildcards, that's another story.

Just to confirm, the only check I will be running on teams is that they are in the feeder league.

How they you get them there is entirely not my problem.

im making a new team. Save a lot of hassle. I don't know what to make. Should it be something crazy like flings/ gobbo's?

I'd say halflings for the extra challenge.

Current lineup (I'm going with Skaven):

Ermine Vermin	(eldaec)
~MY HElves~	(Modern Angel)
Blue Line	(Bann)
F13 Pro Elves	(Comstr)
Festering Wounds	(Sky)
Emperors of the Pitch	(Ruvaldt)
Howls and Bones	(HaemishM)
Kenosha Moons	(proudft)
Fianna Chulain	(IainC)
~it is a mystery~	(Hoax)
Going Forth By Day	(Ingmar)
The Fantastiks	(Sjofn)
~terrible Khemri team~	(Celer)
Sissyfaced Nancies	(Strazos)
Court of the Moon	(Gruntle)
Aery Faery's*	(Ulysees)
~something crazy~	(Andy Davo)

17 teams, it would be awesome we could get one more to avoid having one team sit out each round on a bye.

* The Grammar Snake hates you.

My Nurgle are in.

I'll bring Norse, team hasn't been accepted yet to feeder league.

i've got a trusty beastman team (midnight bleat train) that would love to injure something, but happy to sit it out if the total number of teams starts to look weird.

Numbers are flexible, but even is better.

So looking for one more to make 20 now.

I'll play my Nurgle team, Bleating.

Can we get rid of the two Nurgle teams and be 18?

I second that emotion.  :awesome_for_real:

My bridgeburners are in if there's still room.

There is room.

Though another signup to make us even again would be very welcome.

There are at least 11 more of you who played in the main season, and a few who are very active in the feeder league.



Kicking this off tomorrow at midnight, higher than anticipated signups mean we really need 6 rounds, so basically we should get started.

I was going to say; how may are you up to and is it possible to slot in another team? If not, it's cool, if yes then I'll run one of my new Feeder League teams.

The format means we can fit literally any number in. If we somehow got more people than the main league we'd just have to add another match day to guarantee a result. You'd be coach 22, so you're making us even numbered which is preferable as we avoid byes.

Need you and AndyDavo to name a team though.

Allright, I'll go with Pound Pound Mantrain, my Norse team.

For the record, my (shitty) Goblin team is the Kenosha Maroons, not Moons as listed in the current list.  Bringing it up before "Moons" gets entrenched as their name or if you are making a fancy chart or something.   :grin:

I am very tempted to refer to them as Kenosha Moons in every post from this point on.

I am being driven mad with power you see.

Yes, I weighed that possibility.  But you don't want to get mooned by goblins, do you?

Switching to a different Nurgle team, Stir Fry (needs to be accepted into feed league still)

I'll jump in with a new Chaos team if someone else wants to pair with me to keep it even. If not, not.

Let's try to get ICE a partner then close this down. First round being drawn tonight!

Come on you fucks, 5 and a half hours to find number 24.

Also, AndyDavo CHOOSE AND PERISH (need a team name)

I can add a second team if it will help.

I'm going to hold the last spot for any late entrants for at least the next couple of days, if we can't get anyone in by about half way through the week then doubling up may be the best solution.

Oh dur, my team name is Calidor Fancypants

I'm kind of in the middle of moving right now but if you're going to delay the league a few days anyway I could join with my terribly-named noob Vampires, the Wrong Games. If someone else shows up who wants the spot they can take it though.

Day 1 will start in 25 minutes and finish 9 days from then. If that works for you, I'll drop you into the fixture list.

That works, I guess. Sign me up.

I'm going to assume that ICE's team is Chanson Dada, and we just need AndyDavo's team name to complete the roster.

Correct.