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 Full-length trailer is out.  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uTFTHRRTvU)  

We'll see: this is a hard character to do right, given the Capra-cornesque nature of his personality, which is even a problem in the comics--once he can't punch Hitler in the face, Cap mostly works as a character only when he's a straight-man foil to some more classic Marvel-style neurotic hero. But in this case, well, there's still Hitler to punch and it looks like they've maybe got the "Nazis-with-superweapons" vibe going on pretty well. I like the look of it, at any rate.

I wonder if any version of Bucky is in the film.

EDIT: Two little things I just noticed: "Mr. Stark" (Tony Stark's father) and the quick touch to the new man-tits from the love interest.

Bucky is in the film, he's Steve's best friend, and is a deady little sniper. This kinda irked me at first, then I realized I didn't care too much about the character anyway and was just reflexively being nerd-ragey.

Moderately intrigued, it has that same look that Iron Man has; with a little more corn.

The new Bucky in the comics was more of a badass (and became a Russian killer after the war - brainwashing! before becoming the new Captain America). Also, this is more of the Ultimates version of Capt. America, who kills motherfuckers. The Ultimates Cap got the Hulk to fight against an alien invasion by telling him the aliens had said the Hulk was gay.

Reading that article about color correction has ruined me for life.  I watched that trailer and all I could think was "Orange.  Teal.  Teal on orange.  Orange on teal.  HOLY SHIT SOME GREEN!  Okay, back to teal.  Orange.  Orange on teal..."

I may be a bit off on my marvel timeline / characters, but during the scene where Cap and his team come through the doors shooting, the guy with the shotgun on Caps left looked quite a lot like Dum Dum Dougan?

The trailer's definitely got me more interested in the movie, so hey, I guess it's doing it's job.  Two things I noticed in it that I'm glad to see are weird Nazi super science weapons/devices and Cap actually, you know, shooting people in a war.  

Edit:  And yeah, that definitely looked like Dum Dum Dougan.  So looks like we'll also be seeing the Howling Commandos. 

Yeah, that's definitely the Howling Commandos--I take that to be Nick Fury on the other side. Which makes Samuel Jackson's Nick Fury rather interesting. (The new cartoon version of the Avengers has the African-American Nick Fury being the son of the WWII Nick Fury rather than being one of the nearly infinite numbers of people to have survived WWII without aging in the interim.)

That caught me eye too, "holy crap, they let him use a gun!"

Yeah me too, I just see it everywhere I look now.

That is definitely Dum Dum Dugan with the shotgun and the moustache. I'm hoping that the white guy on the other side is Nick Fury and that they explain the Sam Jackson Nick Fury as being either a clone of Fury or a Life Model Decoy (which is how they've explained Nick Fury living so long yet still being an asskicker).

The trailer was goddamn awesome, orange teal orange or not.

I'm a little concerned they are going to avoid all actual nazi imagery in the movie to play to wider audiences. To me, it just adds to the feeling that this is really WWII and not just random past-facist supervillains.

There are no Nazi's from what I heard, it's all Hydra.

In fairness Hydra was founded by Nazis. Also I thought the Nick Fury thing was explained by him having some knock off super soldier serum that slowed ageing? The Bucky thing, present continuity explains the willingness to have a teenage kid around in what were effectively super special forces missions as Bucky being very talented at sneaky-sneaky and silent killing. As well as the Soviet super-spy brainwashing hilarity.

The movie looks interesting, only worry from the trailer is that it ends up being a generic action film rather than a Captain America film but 1) It's a trailer, all trailers look generic and 2) They've shown an ability to make good action films. I'll hold out hope.

In the mainstream Marvel continuity, the survival and continued vigor of the Howling Commandoes is a result of all of them having consumed some kind of anti-aging formula. I'm guessing that this film is going to try and stay away from continuity of that kind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq8OoPdiiVc

Fuck yeah!

Great looking stuff!  Looks like they are squeezing in various Marvel tidbits.  That's great.  Now I want to know how Tony Stark got Cap's shield and will that be a plot point in the Avenger's movie?

I am really pulling for Marvel to pull off this Avengers movie chain. 

I'm pretty certain the shield in IM2 was just an easter egg and has no relevance to any kind of movie continuity.

I dont know, given the reaction from the Special Agent when he saw it, I would be inclined to disagree.  As to how he got it, probably through his father some how.  Given the way it looked (incomplete) it might have been a prototype?

Well didnt they show the agent finding Thor's hammer in a crater in the desert? But then the trailer for Thor doesnt seem to have anything to do with that at all.
Marketing/easter eggs?

Both the Thor trailers reference the hammer in the crater, the New Mexico desert and Agent Coulson. The opening of both trailers (particularly the first  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOddp-nlNvQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOddp-nlNvQ), some of the second http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHBnrJowBZE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHBnrJowBZE) )features the (presumably same) crater shown in IM2. All the real world action takes place in a town in the middle of the desert.

I'm guessing it's something like Stark Snr. being an engineer involved with the project, probably a brief cameo that may or may not get referenced in the Avengers movie. Total guess though.

The "Thor's Hammer in the Desert" easter egg after the credits on Iron Man 2 isnt really an easter egg.  It's part of the Avengers Movie marketing campaign.  Much the same way that the SLJ Nick Fury cameo at the end of Iron Man 1 when he makes the offer to Stark to join his new club, or the appearance of Stark at the end of the latest Hulk Movie makeing some kind of offer to the General are all franchise tie-ins more then they are Cameos.

Also, didn't someone mention in the Iron Man 2 thread that the directors confirmed that the guy in the french prison getting his mug shot taken as Stark walks by to go see Anton is supposed to be Thor?

I got free movie passes to see a preview of this tonight.  The person I'm taking with me is more excited than I am, which is surprising since she doesn't seem the type that likes super hero movies.  I'll give my impressions of the movie after I come home.

Maybe she's just got a crush on what's-his-name and is all jazzed about seeing him run around in tight shirt & pants/ topless.

What an odd turn of a phrase. Why wouldn't you just say date/wife/girlfriend/whatever? Or are you just going to kidnap someone and take them to Captain America?

Doesn't want to admit it's his mom.

Teh ghey.

NTTAWWT

Friendzoned.

It does smell of a certain odd insecurity, doesn't it? I mean I went to see Iron Man a few years ago with a female friend AND my dad, but I never described them to anyone as "the people with whom I saw the movie".

Perhaps, "The slag I'm bonkin' til miss right comes along" was too descriptive?

....really?  If the person I'm talking to doesn't know the person I'm talking about, that's exactly the wording I use, for movies or other events.  Unless them knowing its my Dad/GF/what ever is specifically important in the context of the story.

Why not just say "my friend"...

It's his alternate female personality.

/shyamalan

Buddy of mine, who is quite the movie buff and a callous cynic in his own right, went to a midnight showing of the digital 3d version of this movie. His reviews are usually quite spot on with my own reactions to a movie, so when he posted he saw it and his first word was "AWESOME," well I will take him at his word.

To satisfy your inexplicable interest regarding who I went with, it was a woman from work.  I got a free pass for two so I asked her if she would like to go.  It wasn't a date because she's married.  Makes sense now? :oh_i_see:

As for the movie, it was much better than I thought it was going to be.    Not as good as the Dark Knight series, Spiderman 1 or Ironman 1, but I would put it up there with Thor and the last X-Men movie.  Everyone seemed to like it and my fears that Chris Evans would drag it down didn't happen.  A nice way to wrap things up before the Avengers is released (next year?).

Still weird. Why wouldn't you just say friend? She is your friend, right? You're socializing together outside of work. I bet you dearly want to bang her and that's why you subconsciously don't want to call her your friend, leaving her as "the person you took with you".

ADMIT. REVEAL YOURSELF.  :why_so_serious:

Why not just say "the person I was with"...

He's secretly a sexist and is objectifying the poor woman by identifying her only in relation to the movie the two were watching, the bastard.

I'm with WUA.

Why would you say "with"? :grin:

I want to say it doesn't bode well for this movie that you all are more interested in dissecting the turn of a phrase than relaying tales of seeing it or other such speculations.

I am taking the family to see this tomorrow. My 5 year old daughter loves Cap, and has seen other PG 13 superhero movies ( Iron Man 1 & 2' all 3 spiderman flicks, X-Men up thru Origins, and the first of the new Batman franchise -- Dark Knight is too scary, IMO), are there any bits to this that should keep her home?

I don't think so.  There wasn't much foul language and the violence wasn't too graphic except for a few people who were disintegrated from one of Red Skull's fancy weapons.  If your girl had no problem with Iron Man 1/2 and the X-men series then she should be ok with this film.

Its actually pretty good and I would recommend it to anyone who enjoys comic movies.  Its certainly at the higher end of the quality spectrum for the genre.

Thanks for the assessment. She makes me buy every Cap-related book out there, and I would hate for her to have a bad experience.

Does this mean I'm "allowed" to say faggot now?

Just got back, I would put this above iron man2 and thor, easily on par with the first iron man.  Some of the action scenes suffered from a bit of green-screen-itis but the story itself was solid and set up the character well.

Very solid, a lot of fun. Actually some of the best stuff is the middle section of the film, when Cap is initially used just as a propaganda tool, lots of clever meta-commentary. They can't really avoid the blandness of Steve Rogers' post-transformation personality, but that's kind of the point, he's just a solid all-American guy, which is what lets everybody like him.

Howling Commandoes actually have a pretty prominent role in the film. I love that a few film reviewers are snarking about how they're all multicultural and politically correct and shit like it's some corporate calculation when this was pretty much the way they were when they debuted in 1963. (Gabe Jones has become Nick Fury Sr. in order to create the bridge to Jackson's Nick Fury Jr., and there's an Asian-American member who I don't think was on the original team.)

Hugo Weaving is very good as the Red Skull.

Just got back 2 hours ago. Damn good. A bit too long for my daughter, but she's 5 and you'll have that. She got really upset towards the end  but that blew over quickly.

My wife also thought it was long. Then again, they had to do a lot of origin story exposition, which she agreed was probably necessary.

Now I need to see if Marvel has any of the Howling Commandos stuff on their digital download app. It's one aspect of Cap that I've never fully read. I'm a bit pissed that they didn't provide names for the characters as part of the dialogue. You'd think that would be useful, as these were Steve's "super group" of soldiers as far as the movie's plot was concerned.

They are still in the middle of filming Avengers.  It's the reason they didn't have a Comic-Con Panel this year.

Well, that explains it.

Saw it yesterday. I loved it, but the last half was paced pretty badly. I could actually feel the movie slip the rails.

Is this reboot better than the original 1990 Captain America movie?

 :oh_i_see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs8rFsmhNTc

Of course that does not come close to the 1979 version!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzE4Hv6Z-yk

Phear the motorcycle helmet of JUSTICE!

Such a great movie   :awesome_for_real:

Now we have to wait a damn year for Avengers.

The Japanese guy's line, "I'm from Fresno, Ace" was the one thing that upset the missus about this movie. Partially because her family's from the Fresno area and pretty much the only choices the men had those days was to end up in an internment camp or go to war. I told her on the upside, that could've been her grandfather.  :grin:

Saw it, enjoyed it, but I think I still like Thor better.  CA was a lot of fun and Chris Evans did a good job.  I farking loved the USO tour!  Totally didn't see that coming. 


Looks like the movie is doing very well and The Avengers are setup about was well as can be.  I really do want to see these guys in a movie together.

Avengers clip:

 

Just saw the teeny bit of the teaser they've put up online. Stark says to Thor, "You've got a mean swing".

I saw this today and loved it. The pacing was perfect. Two hours felt like nothing, not once did I check my watch. The thing was full of nods to the comics, from Arnim Zola's first on-screen appearance being through a distorted TV picture to the Human Torch's body at the World Expo, the Howling Commandos, Bucky's abilities as a sniper, the whole kitten kaboodle. It could easily have been another half hour and I wouldn't have minded, especially if that time was spent with more Howling Commandos. They didn't get nearly enough screen time. I'd put it right below the two Iron Man movies on the scale of the Marvel flicks, right above Thor.

Went and saw this today, thought the whole opening with Voldemort and then Snape at Hogwarts was really confusing.  :ye_gods:



They played the wrong movie until we went out and said something.  :awesome_for_real:

Haha that's awesome..

Felt quite average to me. The factory destruction montage is a wtf moment in the movie.
Yawn. I guess it'll do. Quite easy to pick apart this movie...but hey, it's comic book logic!

I thought this movie was well done.  It was actually not an over the top comic book movie, but a very solid story where the protagonist happened to be Captain America.  The movie even de-emphasized his "super" powers to a large extent.

Saw it tonight.
Better than Thor but worse than Ironman movies.
My non-comic buddy went with me, and at the end kept saying "why the fuck didnt he just pull it up and slide in for a landing on the ice?"

The one thing that really annoyed me was the "starship troopers" style battle scenes where you have a veteren infantry regiment running like idiots charging fortified positions whilst shooting full auto from the hip and all killing happens at about 10-20 feet distance. No heavy weapon support, no taking cover, no grenades even. I mean cmon you dont even see shit that stupid in star wars or james bond movies.

If I tried to land a 747 with no training or coaching, I'd probably lawn-dart it. I bet your buddy couldn't land a crazy Nazi superretrotech fortress bomber.  :why_so_serious:

He figured out the heading, air speed, his general location and how to plow it into the ice. Figuring out how to pull up immediately after pushing down wouldnt be that hard.
 :why_so_serious:



That didnt bother me as much as the fact that the American tommy guns of oucrse fired at full auto allowing them to kill 3 enemies every time they pulled the trigger or sneezed. Meanwhile the enemies super lazer beam rifles seemed to fire once every thirty or so seconds.  :uhrr:

But they did cool shit when they actually did hit somebody. When you're a bad guy like the Red Skull, killing your enemies in the most awesome fucking way possible totally outweighs poor firing rate and aiming. Also if possible you have to wear scary looking outfits that obscure your vision and provide no protection at all. It's in the Supervillain Manual.