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Title: S#3 - Game Day #7
Post by: Falconeer on February 25, 2011, 05:25:28 AM
We are currently Playing.....
Game Day #7 (of 7)
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Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Falconeer on February 25, 2011, 05:26:01 AM
Scores and Standings after Game Day #6



Scores:

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Standings (6 played out of 7):


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Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Falconeer on February 25, 2011, 05:34:46 AM
Updated with more player info.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Sky on February 25, 2011, 06:42:53 AM
Love the orcs in the thrower rankings!

Also, hate on BB Manager for shunning my guys in the individual killer rankings despite being first (or tied for) almost the entire season. Boo!


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Modern Angel on February 25, 2011, 06:56:16 AM
Hoax, pm me a time. I'm good basically any time today since I have baby wrangling help. Can go this weekend, too.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Strazos on February 25, 2011, 02:54:06 PM
I like that I am actually starting to appear in some of the lists. Unfortunately, it seems I have some work to do on gaining SPP.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Falconeer on February 25, 2011, 03:37:41 PM
Scadente and Strazos are in the playoffs. I tied 1 - 1 with Sir T. I didn't play well, but my bad luck has been ridiculous. I could not believe my eyes. When Sir T scored I had 4 players on the pitch. I sustained 3 casualties (1 deth) and 8 KOs, an interception, a long list of double 1s, and my best player/blitzer got casualted (and out for the next game too) in the FIRST turn out of a failed GFI with rerolls. Trivia: the same thing happened to the same player in turn one again Strazos: double 1 on a gfi in turn 1, out for the game. I started my game with said double 1 that injured Virginia Woolf, and I finished with a double skulls (I would have scored a TD with ANY dice result except a double skulls) that kicked me out of the playoffs.

That said, the bad luck is what killed my mood, but if I played a better turn 9 through 11 turns I would have probably survived the plague.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Sir T on February 25, 2011, 03:48:57 PM
Sorry Falconeer.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Modern Angel on February 25, 2011, 03:51:34 PM
Never apologize to your enemy. Taunt them. Rub their noses in it. This... this is the essence of Blood Bowl. Nuffle demands it.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Ingmar on February 25, 2011, 03:53:56 PM
And don't forget the turn 16 foul!


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Sir T on February 25, 2011, 03:56:14 PM
Fuck Nuffle. Seriously.

Thank God this league is over.

Never apologize to your enemy. Taunt them. Rub their noses in it. This... this is the essence of Blood Bowl. Nuffle demands it.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Bann on February 25, 2011, 03:57:45 PM
Dandies 1 Strongmen 1.

I scored early and managed to finally not concede a score at the half, Scadante scored late in the 2nd and I was attempting some longshot stuff for a late score, and nearly gave him an easy touchdown right at the end. Tipsy, my catcher who has been injuried early in EVERY GAME he has played was finally killed in the first half, and I didn't even think of using my apoth on him. I was glad to see him go. My other new catcher, Useless Pile, managed to spend most of the game knocked out. I loathe human catchers. I nearly had a blitzer die later, but luckily the apoth changed that to a badly hurt. Match has been uploaded to BBM.

Overall a fun match, glad we got it in before Scadante's trip. Sorry to his playoff opponents that I didnt get to do any damage at all to him. Really looking forward to season 4!



Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Llyse on February 25, 2011, 04:57:54 PM
Fuck Nuffle. Seriously.

Thank God this league is over.

Never apologize to your enemy. Taunt them. Rub their noses in it. This... this is the essence of Blood Bowl. Nuffle demands it.

Doesn't sound like you're interested in the next season T

Bad luck on the deaths and casualties Falc  :heartbreak:

At least your holiday in Florida will have no distractions!  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Hoax on February 25, 2011, 05:01:42 PM
The all orc affair that will help clarify the playoff picture for Stormbringer will kick off in an hour. You have been warned.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Celer on February 25, 2011, 05:19:04 PM
Grats on making the playoffs, Strazos!  You may want to rest your best players in preparation for the post season!  :grin:


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: proudft on February 25, 2011, 05:56:34 PM
Burrowing Beetles 2-0 over Gut Spillers.  A Gut Spiller Ghoul was taken out early with a knee injury which was probably fairly crucial in limiting the Gut Spiller mobility down to Khemri speed.  Mummies vs. tomb guardians was the predictable bashorama with 113 total block rolls (according to BBManager) over the course of the game.  

Major injuries were the aforementioned ghoul with a knee injury (niggling), a gouged eye for a Beetles skeleton (wat?), and a smashed ankle (-1 MV) on the replacement Thro-Ra.   :cry2:



Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Ingmar on February 25, 2011, 06:55:34 PM
More like Slow-Ra, am I rite?


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Modern Angel on February 25, 2011, 07:26:09 PM
Hoax and I tie, 1-1.

Looked like an early blowout for Snoosnoo, as I scored by turn 4 after a disastrous double missed go for it roll would have put me in even earlier. Things evened out from there, though Snoosnoo went in up 1-0 at the half with the star thrower for S&G taken out hard mid half.

Second half was a different tale, with a solid bashy start. Snoosnoo characteristically left the middle open for a solid S&G scoring run. Game ends after a flubbed Jerkface pass is nearly run salvaged by Freight Train Joe, only to be lost in the succeeding scrum.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Megrim on February 25, 2011, 08:04:56 PM
Hoax and I tie, 1-1.

Looked like an early blowout for Snoosnoo, as I scored by turn 4 after a disastrous double missed go for it roll would have put me in even earlier. Things evened out from there, though Snoosnoo went in up 1-0 at the half with the star thrower for S&G taken out hard mid half.

Second half was a different tale, with a solid bashy start. Snoosnoo characteristically left the middle open for a solid S&G scoring run. Game ends after a flubbed Jerkface pass is nearly run salvaged by Freight Train Joe, only to be lost in the succeeding scrum.

Oh wow, the best possible result for the top two in Stormbringer, I think.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Cadaverine on February 25, 2011, 08:35:23 PM
In my first legit win of the season, Merely a Fleshwound grinds out a hard fought win over 7 Deadly Sins, 2 - 1.

I actually thought it was gonna end up being another slaughter for me as some early injuries took 3 of my players off the pitch, and I couldn't get my cage moving for squat.  Ezrast scored, and again, it looked like my cage wasn't going to go anywhere, when a little luck saw fit to come my way, and an injured skink made room for my ghoul to break out, and hand off to the ghoul upfield to bring things 1 - 1 on turn 7.   

Second half, I kicked off to Ezrast, and he slowly ground the ball down to about three spaces shy of the end zone.  He left the skink with the ball against the sideline, though, which allowed me to dodge my wight away from a skink, into two other players TZ, and pull off a GFI blitz to put the skink out.  The ball was tossed in to the center of the pitch, and into the waiting hands of my mummy.  Who just looked at it as it bounced around.   :oh_i_see:  Cleared out the area around the ball, and snapped it up, handing it off to the ghoul waiting up the field, and then ran out the clock a bit before scoring the game winner.

Overall, I have to say, I'm sorely disappointed in my mummy's performance this season.  Plenty of stuns, and not a single injury.  The rest of the team is starting to shape up a bit, though.  By the end of season 6, this team might actually be worth a damn.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: ezrast on February 25, 2011, 08:44:41 PM
7 Deadly lose 1-2 to Merely a Fleshwound. I could have at least tied it if I had a) stalled before my turn 5 TD, b) not put my ball carrier on the sideline, allowing Cadaverine to dodge a Wight into 2 TZ's and score a 2-die-against push leading to a very unfavorable crowd throw-in, or c) not rolled so many damn double (or triple) skulls. Any two of those and I might have won. Cadaverine earned it, though, exploiting my mistakes well enough to turn the match around in multiple places.

By the end of season 6, this team might actually be worth a damn.
I know exactly how you feel.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on February 25, 2011, 10:18:11 PM
After a decent first half capped by a mind-bogglingly terrible final two turns, the Hazardous Hippies ran away with the game against Negative Capability, winning 4-1 and putting the Necromantics out of the playoffs. Ingmar and Lamaros will play for second spot in Battletech division.

Short version: could not stop the elves from scoring, then instead of just failing to score at the end of the second half I instead managed to give up a (cheating, elven) second touchdown. From that point on I played desperately, and repeatedly overextended against an elf team that, at least in the second half, simply could not roll a 1. If I had played a more sensible defense when down 2-1 I may have had a better chance, but I rushed forward on a blitz and was duly punished.

I killed a wardancer (saved by apothecary) and KOed the other (foul) on the first drive, but they returned shortly to continue to give me fits, and I don't think I even knocked one of them down again in the rest of the game. Though to be honest it was the thrower and the catchers that really did me in. I killed a rookie catcher at the end of the game but it was small consolation.

Full credit to Teleku for a well-played game.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Comstar on February 26, 2011, 12:33:55 AM
I was hoping to play Andydevo this weekend...I hope he can read his PM's soon.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Sir T on February 26, 2011, 10:15:34 AM

Doesn't sound like you're interested in the next season T

I dunno. I'll have to think about it. This league has been a pretty miserable experience in all respects.

Thing is though, this Nurgle team is getting fairly strong. 2 Warriors now have Block, it now has 3 beastmen (assuming I spend the money for another one, which I probably will), spare Rotters to fill gaps as casualties mount. It would be a far better team to go into a league than it was starting off this one.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Strazos on February 26, 2011, 10:33:09 AM
Alternatively you could build up a team in the Feeder league so you could try another race.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Modern Angel on February 26, 2011, 10:53:11 AM
The thing you have to remember about Chaos and Nurgle is that they really do take time to mature. First seasons are invariably tough, especially for Nurgle, with few first season Chaos teams breaking out of the mediocre category.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: IainC on February 26, 2011, 11:05:23 AM
Played Sky in a blizzard which shut down my passing game. Not that it mattered because the Agi 5 blitzer that I use as a thrower failed most of his 2+ rolls anyway. Sky chose a Halfling masterchef and in the first half it took two of my three rerolls off me and in the second half it took all three. I don't lean on my rerolls too much as my team has skills that mean they aren't too vital but there were a lot of stupid failures on a 2+ that meant having no rerolls really hurt.

I was receiving in the first half was doing well to get some players free and was dealing about as much damage back to the Orcs as they were doing to me. Had a scoring opportunity with about 2 turns to go but fumbled the 2+ throw to leave the ball in the middle of my half of the pitch. The rest of the turn was a scramble to prevent the Orcs from capitalising and the half ended 0-0.

Second half I kicked and the Orcs made a strong cage that I was having trouble breaking. With only a few turns to go the Orc with the ball made a run for the endzone but slipped leaving the ball free. I set up a pass and hand off chain that would allow me to score, picked up the ball only to drop it again on a failed GfI roll. The Orcs didn't need more of an invitation and ran the ball in with two turns each to go. I then fucked up by convincing myself that I had an additional turn to set up a score so I arranged things so that I could break through on either wing on my next turn ready for a turn 16 score. As soon as I'd hit 'end turn' however I realised that I'd messed up and I on;y had one turn left to play and no players in range of the end zone. With that it was over and Sky had won 1-0.

Now the AndyDavo/Comstar match will decide whether I go through to the playoffs. If Comstar wins or it's a draw then I'm out. If Andy wins then I'm through at Comstar's expense.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Sky on February 26, 2011, 11:05:29 AM
In another upset, Bashtards skate to victory over the Hackers, 1-0.

Iain's dice were cursed, he could not land a 2+ pass (except for a quick spp with 3 seconds left in the game). We were playing in a blizzard, so the passing game was already stunted. I kicked off and the first half went scoreless. (edit) One note about the end of the first half, I had taken an open seam in the center to send my thrower into the backfield to put some pressure on his lone elf ball carrier, which is how I was able to stall him back there after the fumble...even though Chuck failed to pick up the ball two or three times in a row (with safe hands...).

Seeing Iain's luck with passing, Chuck didn't even bother and used his newly-found ability to block to play runner...only to slip on a patch of ice (twice) on a GFI for the score in the second half. I trundled up the middle of the pitch, again practicing my caging, not really hoping to score but just get in some good practice against a good opponent. So while I knew it was smarter to keep trundling the cage up to the goal, Chuck squirted out to try to GFI in the ice...and as mentioned, slipping twice, fumbling the ball. Iain had a couple guys back there unmarked (cyanide sucks at UI and twice I was unable to follow up on last second blocks, part of why I just said GFI), snatched the ball and fumbled a 2+ pass (after succeeding a 3+GFI to reduce the pass from 3+ to 2+). I scooped up the ball with a cage corner blitzer who had luckily brought along his ice skates and he skated through his GFI for the score.

Iain got the ball back and I set up for a stall, only two turns left. He played a wicked conservative offense, I was scratching my head and just played a conservative defense, not seeing how he could win...nobody in scoring range, even with GFI. Turns out he thought he had three turns left, the mistake costing him the tie and possibly his playoff spot. Ouch!

The game was mostly down to nuffle protecting his beloved greenskins and futzing Iain's dice rolls, but the MVP of the game was really the halfling master chef, who left Iain with 1 RR in the first half and NONE in the second half (though he did regain one for turn 14 from the kickoff event).


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: HaemishM on February 26, 2011, 11:20:02 AM
AND THE PEACE DOGS HAVE A VICTORY!!!!  :why_so_serious:

Some days the bull gets you and some days you get the bull. Xuri and I played a match to determine the Bottom of the Barrel, and my Peace Dogs were victorious, 2-0! Xuri had some of the worst dice at the worst times. With a significant gulf in TV, I ended up with 500k in inducements, so I bought the Master Chef and 2 rerolls, both of which proved very valuable. The Chef won me an extra reroll in the first half while taking one away from Xuri, but in the second half I gained 2 extra rerolls and stole 2 from him. Those rerolls were crucial, more for his lack than my extras. The first half saw the Peace Dogs receiving and with a lot of mussing about, I managed to get 2 catchers free deep in his half, with my thrower on the ball. However, one stupid stupid mistake saw me leave him stranded within blitz range of enough Norse firepower to be in trouble. He ends up blitzed and on his back, but with enough fuckups on Xuri's part, the thrower ended up with the ball back in his hands. However, those hands seemed to be made of butter, as every elf I had on the pitch who attempted a pass fucked it up in some manner. Xuri found himself with a free lineman carrying the ball two steps from my goal line. One of those steps was a step too far, however, and he tripped over his own feet, staying down until halftime. I covered the ball and the clock ran out on a cagey first half.

The second half's chef roll really set the tone for the rest of the game. As I kicked off, his front line ran over my weak linemen, but I managed to sneak a catcher and a blitzer into his half. The ball did not remain secure in Norse hands for long and my catcher ran in to pick it up. He was quickly surrounded by pissed off drunken Vikings, but a key blitz by another catcher freed him up enough that he dodged his way out of the cage and into the endzone for the first score! Another kickoff saw a similar set of circumstances, only this time he had his thrower free with plenty of open receivers on my side of the pitch waiting for their chance at glory. A failed throw, a fumbled pass, a key blitz on the thrower and my catcher ran free with the ball. Knowing that time was running short, he danced around on the edge of the endzone safely out of harm's way before scoring on the last turn, giving me a 2-0 victory!

I think I should get 3 level ups after this game, leaving me a dilemma. Should I continue on with this team which I'm starting to really get the hang off, or shift over to my feeder league Chaos team which is also starting to toughen up? Next season should be plenty of fun no matter who I choose.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: proudft on February 26, 2011, 11:26:28 AM
Oh, I had uploaded the Beetles-Gut Spillers replay but forgot to mention it.  You know, in case that was why we haven't been verified yet.  Baby needs three skillups and whatever my shitty money roll was.   :grin:


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Sky on February 26, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
Yay Haem, glad you got to break the cherry in the first season! Xuri is having some rotten luck and probably cursing our names.

The Bashtards should also be in decent enough shape I don't plan on building a feeder team to replace them next season.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Comstar on February 26, 2011, 02:10:31 PM
With that it was over and Sky had won 1-0.

Now the AndyDavo/Comstar match will decide whether I go through to the playoffs. If Comstar wins or it's a draw then I'm out. If Andy wins then I'm through at Comstar's expense.

OMG. Upset of the week! I  wouldn't have expected that- the Halfing Master Chef claiming victory over a high-skilled-everyone-has-block team.

AndyDevo still needs to reply to my PM"s.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: IainC on February 26, 2011, 02:22:34 PM
With that it was over and Sky had won 1-0.

Now the AndyDavo/Comstar match will decide whether I go through to the playoffs. If Comstar wins or it's a draw then I'm out. If Andy wins then I'm through at Comstar's expense.

OMG. Upset of the week! I  wouldn't have expected that- the Halfing Master Chef claiming victory over a high-skilled-everyone-has-block team.

AndyDevo still needs to reply to my PM"s.

Yeah I'm pretty gutted actually, I expected to get at least a draw from that game easily - not to put Sky's abilities as a coach down but I basically lost because I had no way to protect myself from random bad luck. There were literally three or four rolls in the whole game that I'd have wanted to reroll and all of them prevented me from scoring. Not having a single reroll left me far more open to stupid stuff like AGI 5 throwers failing two out of three short passes.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Falconeer on February 26, 2011, 03:39:37 PM
AndyDevo still needs to reply to my PM"s.

Write him an email too. Not sure he PM notifies and it's always better to make sure you tried all you could. But there's plenty of time anyway.



Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Strazos on February 26, 2011, 04:34:41 PM
What happened to the OP update? :grin:


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: drogg on February 26, 2011, 05:15:50 PM
4-0 Huhnqua Huhnqua Burning Love over Nifty Helmets  :grin:

poor Gruntle had some terrible dice luck, especially in blocks - he had a devil of a time knocking down my saurii and lost a few rounds to double skulls.  the teeming skink hordes continue to scurry betwixt gaps in the line and miraculously never get injured.  my namesake once again eats dirt (niggling injury this time) only to get saved by my apothecary.  Cracked a beastman's ribs and seriously injured a second in the process.

special thanks to Falconeer for fixing things after i managed to crash the first go-through and to Gruntle for being such a good sport.  I think I should be in the playoffs now?


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Falconeer on February 26, 2011, 05:20:50 PM
What happened to the OP update? :grin:

The usual: I am out of the playoffs so fuck Blood Bowl.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Modern Angel on February 26, 2011, 07:38:46 PM
Out of the playoffs but in Rift! :D


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Sir T on February 26, 2011, 08:21:56 PM
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Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Llyse on February 26, 2011, 08:23:19 PM
So true.  :drill:


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Celer on February 27, 2011, 02:00:39 PM
The Swedgins did only minor damage to Diplomatic Immunity, as the Norse rolled to a 1-0 victory.  It was a strange game on both sides, with the dice being very fickle.  Apocotheries were rolling Deaths, bribes were wasted, and both my Wights went down by halftime and never woke up.

The Norse received but could not quite bust through the Undead defense, mostly because my risky play was being rewarded by the dice whilst Runners were falling over on GFIs.  That luck didn't carry over to the second half, as some ghouls failed a handoff (+reroll) after picking up the ball and the Norse quickly recovered and scored the only point.

Some sloppy play on my part gave up the ball again and gave the Norse a shot at a second TD, but I remembered my fireball and it caused my only casualty of the game--a broken rib to a Runner.  My last-ditch effort to score an equalizer ended when a ghoul couldn't pick up the ball.

I wish I could have got some SPP to close out the season, but thems the breaks.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Strazos on February 27, 2011, 05:38:58 PM
Norse win the kickoff and proceed to drag the ball up the field. Perhaps it was the smell of the necromantic hordes, but the Norse seemed to hesitate on their first turn, and didn't move the ball much. However, there was no delay in the start of fisticuffs. As the ball is brought up the sideline, the Norse are met by a wall of undead, and proceed to use their superior maneuverability to flank them...and it almost worked. However, the dice were kind to the Swedgins in the first half, and some ghouls managed to break loose of the fray and put a block on the runner, wrestling him to the ground and popping the ball loose. They very nearly scored at the half, but a ghoul was not able to throw an accurate pass, and the half ends tied.

Second half the undead bring the ball up and form a loose, messy cage at midfield. The Norse throw up a wall in front, while sending beserkers and werewolves around in an attempt to sack the ball carrier. Some good blocking forces the ball carrying ghoul into a bad location, and he is quickly set upon by the ravaging Norse. They break the ball free, and look to sprint upfield...when a crazed fan flings a fireball from the stands! Most of the Norse near the impact site, including the ball carrier, manage to dodge out of the way, but a lighty-armored runner has his ribs broken by the blastwave. Rather than let the apothecary kill him, he'll just sit out next game.

Eventually, the ball is worked back upfield for a score.

1-0 Norse over Necros.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Ingmar on February 27, 2011, 07:39:18 PM
Beardstorm loses 3-2, congrats to Lamaros. More once I stare at BBM for a bit.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: lamaros on February 27, 2011, 07:39:45 PM
Replay being loaded. I don't think I can describe... Most tense final 4-5 turns ever.

I was forced to receive, which I hate, but managed to pick off some poor placement from Ingmar to surf two guys in two turns. I then tossed up stalling but decided that wouldn't be enough and scored.

My next kick was deep and good. Ingmar couldn't get enough cover back and I knocked the ball out and scored for a 2-0 scoreline. I was feeling good. It is pretty hard to lose with rats from two up. And so I started thinking about SPP and switched off.

With two turns for Ingmar and one for me I kept hoping for a blitz and a chance to score again. Unfortunately I got so focused on this that when I didn't get the blitz I forget I had no time to score and still played for it. With dangerous plays. I didn't cover the runner he had in scoring range and was punished when halfway through my turn I rolled double both down in to double both down. Ingmar then ran and threw and caught to score at the end of the first half.

I was pissed off, but I was still up 2-1 and thought I was going ok. I managed to still have a player advantage at kickoff and got greeeeedy again. I chased the ball about a bit and felt good to get it. It came lose for a second after a throw from Ingmar, but bounced back into his dwarves hands to save the turnover. I knocked it out soon after only for my rat ogre to pick it up as he followed up.

The rat ogre had been a champion all game, surfing two early (one which spent the whole game out KOed), but once the ball was in his hands he just felt like going wild. I set it up for a handoff to a GR the next turn, which would have then run free from the slow Dwarves and iced the game fore sure. But the ogre failed the wild animal roll.

I thought the wild animal roll was a failed catch because I didn't read well enough, and rerolled to save a turnover. Failed again. Gah. Oh well, no big deal, I'll knock this blitzer off the pitch in the corner. Double skulls... gee, I wish I hadn't used a re-roll this turn...

From there it went downhill fast. The rat ogre became useless; sitting there with the ball in his hands he kept failing wild animal rolls for the rest of the game. He couldn't block or blitz or even get up in the end.

I can't describe the last few turns, except to say Ingmar got the ball to a player down field and ran a score with two turns to go. I then threw and ran a score in on the final turn of the game. Thank fuck. Because if I lost that from two up with the scores I gave away I was going to have to take up boxing to get the stress out...

I don't want to sound like a bad winner though. Ingmar played well to come back from a fairly disastrous opening six turns. He was down to nine for pretty much the whole game, against rats, and it was a credit to him that the result was in the balance in the final turn.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Ingmar on February 27, 2011, 08:04:50 PM
Yeah in retrospect I should have tried to stall an extra turn, giving you 2 turns to score at the end instead of 1 was foolish.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: lamaros on February 27, 2011, 08:25:12 PM
Now the AndyDavo/Comstar match will decide whether I go through to the playoffs. If Comstar wins or it's a draw then I'm out. If Andy wins then I'm through at Comstar's expense.

Or Comstar could win by four.

We going to get games verified or has RIFT taken over?


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: eldaec on February 28, 2011, 11:40:36 AM
Given the half life of these things I can't imagine RIFT is going mean much of a delay.

I see almost all the key Stormbringer results are all in and with one match left pretty much nothing is decided. Awesome.

By my maths Morsel or Silver Horde win the Stormbringer league with a win, or HHB takes it on a draw?

EDIT

Morsel v Silver Horde is currently scheduled for Thursday. I can see three other ties outstanding, so not sure if that will be the last of this cycle.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Ingmar on February 28, 2011, 02:00:22 PM
Hurry up and finish all this and the playoffs, I am ready for Season 4!


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Comstar on February 28, 2011, 02:39:19 PM
I'm online and Andydevo is online but he's not seeing my match requests. Andy, lets do this! Hope it's not too late. The final spots for the division are up for grabs.

Edit- still bashing the LETS PLAY button every few minutes


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: AndyDavo on February 28, 2011, 04:34:13 PM
I'm about to have a moan.

My team is now even more fucked after suffering 1 smashed coller bone (IE dead) and 1 more DEAD in game 7. The smashed collar bone was on my most skilled player, a blodge lineman.  What is the policy on team rerolling? I am not carrying on with this shower of shit team any further. I think i have 6 fit players going into the play offs.



Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Comstar on February 28, 2011, 04:35:28 PM
Andy took a star player assassin, a mage (who did nothing) and a bloodwiser babe he barley used. The assassin only got 2 armour breaks in the entire game, despite him blitzing several times, and only got a badly hurt on the last pointless turn of the game. Despite the Amazon's having a much more skilled team, Andy was able to slow the run down the pitch to a crawl, and both sides fumbled the ball at crucial points. A single failed dodge for both teams helped decide the match. The passing game was shut down at the start by hevay rain, but both sides didn't attempt it much, preferring a running game that got bogged down in the centre of the pitch by both sides using superior manoeuvrability. I did manage to make a pass in the rain at +5 to pas/+4 to catch....

...And the 2 teams to go to the playoffs in Division 2 are...






Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Strazos on February 28, 2011, 06:13:50 PM
I renew my claim that Comstar dice hacks. :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Sky on February 28, 2011, 08:00:48 PM
I feel bad for Iain, but it was at least an interesting end to the season for the Bashtards to actually be able to influence the playoffs somewhat. Kind of underlines one of the cool things about the game, even the newb outliers can't be written off easily (unless you're Comstar's bitches who must all diiiie).


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: lamaros on February 28, 2011, 08:17:41 PM
I feel bad for Iain, but it was at least an interesting end to the season for the Bashtards to actually be able to influence the playoffs somewhat. Kind of underlines one of the cool things about the game, even the newb outliers can't be written off easily (unless you're Comstar's bitches who must all diiiie).

Yep.

The only team that didn't at the least get a draw or two was NiX, and that's really only because he didn't play most of the games. And only Llyse and Krummi (and possibly Ramas) have failed to lose at least one game too.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Llyse on February 28, 2011, 09:02:29 PM

Yep.

The only team that didn't at the least get a draw or two was NiX, and that's really only because he didn't play most of the games. And only Llyse and Krummi (and possibly Ramas) have failed to lose at least one game too.

Keep in mind Scadente is a new coach with a new team and has topped Twilight so it's not all experienced team bulldust making it

(Bastich has more points than me  :heartbreak: )


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: lamaros on February 28, 2011, 09:50:29 PM
(Bastich has more points than me  :heartbreak: )

17 !> 17  :awesome_for_real:

It will be one experienced team and one new team from each division making the finals in the end too. So the TV wasn't the be and end all in the final reckoning.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Llyse on February 28, 2011, 10:02:20 PM
But 17 > 12 isn't it Silver spooner?  :why_so_serious:

I'm looking forward to the playoffs and the awesome division seeding video Falc does, but it looks like it might be April before we know Season #3's winner... :heartbreak:

Definitely looking forward to Stormbringer's playoff game of Megrim vs eldaec


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Sky on February 28, 2011, 10:26:46 PM
New coach to the f13 league != new coach to BB.

I'm completely new to the game, or at least...I was!


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: IainC on March 01, 2011, 12:34:48 AM
Well damn. An almost perfect season that included beating the top team came to a screeching halt in the last match. I'll be in for season 4 but I don't expect to be as close to a playoff spot again.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Strazos on March 01, 2011, 03:10:08 PM
Dangit, even more pissed that I could have been #1 seed if not for a mistake with the UI and following up a blitz when I should not have.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: IainC on March 01, 2011, 03:54:55 PM
Dangit, even more pissed that I could have been #1 seed if not for a mistake with the UI and following up a blitz when I should not have.

I only needed any one of three or four 2+ rolls not to fail on me and I'd have had a spot.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Ingmar on March 01, 2011, 03:56:32 PM
I think all of us who missed it by a turn or a play have a number of rolls or decisions that could have swung the outcome in our favor.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: lamaros on March 01, 2011, 04:39:53 PM
I think all of us who missed it by a turn or a play have a number of rolls or decisions that could have swung the outcome in our favor.

For sure. For those who just missed or just made it, or for those who made second and not first, etc. Everyone has 'key' rolls that they misses. It's blood bowl!

Some examples from me:

I could have tied with Ice first game if I made my block and pass in the final round. He'd have been out of the playoffs almost before the final round and I'd have just needed a draw. OR
In the end Teleku would have gone through over me if he had beaten me. I can't recall a key failed pass there that he missed, but there was probably something. Likewise I could point to my failed pass, my failed wizard, etc as reason why I could have won and been a further 2 points ahead come the last day of the season. OR
In my games against Llyse and ezrast, if those last turn attempts (failed wizard in to failed dodge & failed throw) don't fail there then...

At the end of the day in most groups you can probably find about 1000 'key' dice rolls that would have changed how the groups ended up. Picking just one is going to made you seem hard done by, but everyone is hard done by in that case.

It was a 'key' pass that I made to beat Ingmar. But it was a 'key' pass that he made to score in turn 8 too. And a 'key' pass that I failed to get the ball free to score in the second, and a 'key' block that he failed with a skull, and a 'key' scatter than gave him the ball to score his second... etc In any game of probabilities you're going to come up against the dice. Even a 2+ roll fails one time in six.



Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Strazos on March 01, 2011, 06:18:41 PM
My mistake was not even tied to a roll - I made the roll, just couldn't remember if I would be allowed to move if I declined to follow the successful block I made.

Kind of silly, but so many of my successful blitzes are made with players that have frenzy, that I am not usually presented with the choice.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: IainC on March 02, 2011, 12:07:09 AM
For sure. For those who just missed or just made it, or for those who made second and not first, etc. Everyone has 'key' rolls that they misses. It's blood bowl!

It's not just that 'if these dice had rolled differently I'd have won' but that in my last game vs Sky I needed to reroll about 3 or 4 times in the whole game. Each of those rolls would have been to make a 3+ or better action that would have led to a score, one of them was a fumble (from an AGI 5 thrower) that opened the door to the only Orc score of the game. Not being able to mitigate the effects of randomness lost me a game that I should have won.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: lamaros on March 02, 2011, 01:06:47 AM
For sure. For those who just missed or just made it, or for those who made second and not first, etc. Everyone has 'key' rolls that they misses. It's blood bowl!

It's not just that 'if these dice had rolled differently I'd have won' but that in my last game vs Sky I needed to reroll about 3 or 4 times in the whole game. Each of those rolls would have been to make a 3+ or better action that would have led to a score, one of them was a fumble (from an AGI 5 thrower) that opened the door to the only Orc score of the game. Not being able to mitigate the effects of randomness lost me a game that I should have won.

I understand. I just meant that you can in some situations go back a game or two earlier and find similarly decisive moments in other games too, that would have changed the importance of the rolls in the later games. Like my game against Llyse. I failed a wizard (1/6) then failed a dodge (2/6) then rerolled and failed the dodge again (2/6). If any one of those rolls was a success I'd have won, which would have changed the importance of the later matches in the season (I'd have not needed to win). The chance of failing all three was less than 2%.

I can't speak for your group in particular so I'm not sure that there might have been similar moment for other people earlier in the season (in your earlier games or in Davo or Comstars) that were similarly unlucky and might have meant that the game you played against Sky wasn't so vital as it turned out to be, but there might have. It's just that the most recent one stays in mind.

Davo's continued luck with getting his players killed and maimed, as another example, is one way to see how continued luck over the season could also be just as decisive as any flash point. If he hadn't had as many players killed maybe he would have managed to beat Comstar easily and send you through regardless.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Sky on March 02, 2011, 06:36:14 AM
I don't think it was entirely dice, though obviously that played a big factor. There was that one GFI you made to turn a 3+ pass into a 2+ pass, but in a blizzard the GFI is a 3+ roll. So you made a 3+ roll so you wouldn't have to make a 3+ roll, plus the risk of adding an extra die roll. The bigger factor was the halfling chef denying you all but 2 rerolls for the entire game, with me having the added chef rolls plus a leader roll. But I failed what, like three pickups in a row? Even with sure hands and rerolls I've struggled to just pick up the damned ball thanks to bad dice all season long.

And then I've had a couple games where I could throw like an elf, putting my thrower into the passer standings.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Comstar on March 02, 2011, 08:30:32 AM
Do does this mean I play AndyC in the 1st playoff?

I got 3 more skills after my game with him (Guard on a Blitzer, Kick on a Thrower and Wrestle on a Lineswomen) and he's lost another player dead and a Star Linemans -1ST and cut from the team. And that's after he saved another Death using his Apoc.

I used my Apoc to stun a KO'ed Bltizer when I thought I might be losing, and only had a Badly Hurt on the last turn of the game.  If I'm playing Andy, I'd be pretty confident. That's assuming he's willing to play with a team of 7 players and not just forfeit to the inevitable...


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Falconeer on March 02, 2011, 08:33:45 AM
Do does this mean I play AndyC in the 1st playoff?

No.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: AndyDavo on March 02, 2011, 03:06:33 PM
I wont be conceding the play off game for 2 reasons, 1st and most importantly i dont want to give that team an advantage vs the rest in the play offs. Secondly, i will be getting a bum load of inducements, possibly as much as 700-800k so i still could win a game. I am aware that i'm averaging about 1.5 deaths per game currently so i am a tasty team to face, just dont rule me out totally....


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Falconeer on March 02, 2011, 03:40:33 PM
Ok, starting NOW I won't be available until Sunday night. This means, I am sorry, that until Sunday I won't be able to advance or update anything in case Game Day #7 would be completed in the meantime. Again, sorry for this (and no it's not Rift related at all).


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: eldaec on March 03, 2011, 12:19:37 PM
Tonight's clash between Silver Horde and Morsel has been postponed.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Falconeer on March 05, 2011, 03:59:52 AM
It's 2 days to deadline. Is everyone still here?


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: eldaec on March 05, 2011, 04:40:29 AM
Silver Horde v Morsel

Unspoilered replay:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/318368/Replay_2011-03-05_13-24-39.db


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Megrim on March 05, 2011, 04:47:42 AM
I believe the appropriate response to this game was "hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggghhhh".


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: eldaec on March 05, 2011, 05:43:22 AM
Silver Horde v Morsel match report

Pregame, Silver Horde were on a 9 match unbeaten run (last defeated by Alive not Dead in the middle of season 2), and hadn't conceded a TD in 3 full matches, Morsel meanwhile were on a stellar run of form, putting together 4 straight wins with 9 TDs and none conceded to come back into title contention.

A win for either side would give them the Stormbringer title, a draw would hand the trophy to Huhnqua Huhnqua Burninluv.

Silver Horde welcome Caleb the Ripper and Nijel the Destroyer back to the side, and have signed new werewolf Mrs Cake. Zara the Slayer stays on with the team following her successful run out against Team SnooSoo, while Morsel are at full strength.




Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Modern Angel on March 05, 2011, 07:29:54 AM
I can't believe drogg won the title.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: avaia on March 05, 2011, 08:56:48 AM
It's 2 days to deadline. Is everyone still here?

I had some internet issues, Ruvaldt and I should be able to get our match in this weekend.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Ruvaldt on March 05, 2011, 10:15:32 AM
Yep!  Looking forward to it.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Strazos on March 05, 2011, 10:18:57 AM
So we have 2 fresh teams winning divisions?

So much for all the crying and gnashing of teeth regarding carry-over teams.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Modern Angel on March 05, 2011, 10:54:31 AM
Shhhh.... new teams can't compete with the carryovers.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Kail on March 05, 2011, 11:48:37 AM
It's 2 days to deadline. Is everyone still here?

I might have to forefeit my match to Reborne; I've been busy all week and got the Flu yesterday.  Since we're ~10 hours different, might not be time to get together.

On the upside, nothing's really resting on the results of this match.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: drogg on March 05, 2011, 05:10:34 PM
I can't believe drogg won the title.
NO ONE CAN STOP DROGG


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Megrim on March 05, 2011, 06:14:40 PM
I can't believe drogg won the title.

As I tried to argue when this question initially came up, player skill and well-chosen inducements make a far greater difference in games than team value difference. This isn't always the case, as typically the underdog will remain the underdog even with inducements, but it is good to see a new player winning with a new team.

My game wasn't an intentional draw, but eldeac did such a good number on my team in the first half of the match that I didn't want to risk giving him another opportunity to control the ball. Like I said to him on mumble, going in I hadn't set out to play for a draw, I had wanted to actually win, but circumstances dictated otherwise.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Modern Angel on March 05, 2011, 06:17:04 PM
Well, understand that drogg is one of my better friends in real life. So this stings, greatly.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: avaia on March 05, 2011, 09:05:00 PM
All season long, I've been wondering why people never take the fucking chef.  Well, just played Ruvaldt's Rats, and they took the chef.

First half kickoff, I choose to take the ball.  Then we do the chef roll.  3 less rerolls for me, 3 for the rats.  A perfect roll for the gutter runner dodge hell that would surely come.  Oh well, I still had one reroll left, better play things safe.  I cage up and sit for a couple of turns, hoping to get the numbers eventually.  Soon enough, he's got a few KKOs and a cas on the sideline, I move up field and his dauntless wrestle GR manages to wrestle me near the ground on turn 5 or so.  Next turn, I set up a nice chain push with frenzy wight and push the runner clear and move the ball in to go up 1-0.  Screwed up the next kick by putting my kicker on the side of the pitch, whoops.  No harm done, dauntless wrestling GR goes out for the game, halftime leaves us at 1-0, Necco.

Second half starts, chef roll again... again all 3 succeed.  Blah Blah Blah, push a couple of people out, YAGR (yet another gutter runner) manages to break free, but runs out of moves right at my goal line.  I am able to set up a double frenzy push with a wolf to back him up, but fail a GFI after the first block.  No problem, I use my only reroll for the half, but that also fails.  GR easily dodges away from a ghoul for the score.

I wasn't able to move the ball after the next kick, and kind of stalled and recaged each turn for a couple turns to bring us to a draw.  Rats scored one cas, I think I ended with 4.

Always hope for next year, unless the coach bolts for the Nurgle job...


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Ruvaldt on March 05, 2011, 09:13:08 PM
About as even a match as I've had this season.  Avaia gave a good rundown and played a very good match.  My Halfling chef was serving up some gourmet meals.  

Another linerat wins MVP.  Bastard.


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: avaia on March 05, 2011, 09:19:42 PM
My zombie picked up his *fifth* MVP.  Another zombie has 4.   :ye_gods:


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Sky on March 05, 2011, 09:30:52 PM
After that and my game with Iain, I'm betting halfling chefs will be getting lots of work in season 4...


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: Strazos on March 05, 2011, 09:42:52 PM
Yo, fuck that halfling chef. Fuck him right in his fatty fat fat belly. :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: S#3 - Game Day #7 is ON!
Post by: HaemishM on March 06, 2011, 12:45:37 PM
I never took the chef because he's expensive. The only reason I took him against Xuri was I had 500k in inducements. But yeah, if I can afford him, that is a must have item. I don't think I ever understood just how good it could be, but to win not only a reroll (or more than one) as well as take one away from your opponent is so huge.