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Title: X-men: The First Class
Post by: 01101010 on February 10, 2011, 03:49:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrbHykKUfTM

Want to really rip it and hate it, but god damn it... damn it all to hell

(youtube might pull it from what I read on the comments - get it while it's still hot)


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Sir T on February 10, 2011, 04:01:06 PM
Looks like a buddy movie to me. Of the quality of Revenge of the Sith


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: K9 on February 10, 2011, 04:05:15 PM
Hot damn that looked promising.

Too many hopes dashed for me to get excited yet though.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Sir T on February 10, 2011, 04:10:10 PM
Yep, I'm reading beyond the effects to see the potential for serious suck. For instance as the leads. All I can see is Obi wank Kenobi yelling to Anikant "YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE CHOSEN ONE!"


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Brogarn on February 11, 2011, 06:52:00 AM
Yep, I'm reading beyond the effects to see the potential for serious suck. For instance as the leads. All I can see is Obi wank Kenobi yelling to Anikant "YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE CHOSEN ONE!"

The exchange between the two of them at the end of the trailer was written far better than anything Lucas wrote in the prequels. Can't judge the entire movie from teaser trailer and that one exchange alone, but I liked it well enough to go from ambivalent to interested.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Khaldun on February 11, 2011, 07:16:22 AM
Well. Swab me if that doesn't look like it has some potential. Be curious to see if they get the period look right, though.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: HaemishM on February 11, 2011, 09:30:42 AM
Director is Matt Vaughn, he of Kick-Ass and Layer Cake. I have faith in his ability to tell a good story. Trailer looks good.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: DraconianOne on February 11, 2011, 11:48:03 AM
Well. Swab me if that doesn't look like it has some potential. Be curious to see if they get the period look right, though.

This is all you need to know:

(http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/x-men-first-class-kevin-bacon-sebastian-shaw-emma-frost.jpg)


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Ironwood on February 11, 2011, 12:12:36 PM
Hmm, where's his swashbuckling shirt and why is she wearing clothes, instead of just a corset, knickers and thigh highs ?

Am I misremembering this story which influenced my growing up so ?


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: DraconianOne on February 11, 2011, 01:45:25 PM
She was very scantily clad in the trailer - just a bra and knickers by the looks of it.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Ironwood on February 11, 2011, 01:47:31 PM
YAY


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: 01101010 on February 11, 2011, 03:28:20 PM
So with Kevin in this type of movie, are we now at 5 degrees?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Evil Elvis on February 11, 2011, 06:03:11 PM
Kevin Bacon is Sebastian Shaw? 

I'm in.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: UnSub on February 11, 2011, 08:51:34 PM
Prequels as a rule suck.

... but I'll still go and see this.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Sir T on February 11, 2011, 08:57:19 PM
Well. Swab me if that doesn't look like it has some potential. Be curious to see if they get the period look right, though.

It has a Hoverjet plane in the 1960s (which the US government somehow forgot existed in Xmen 2) and you are worried about whether they will have the period look right?  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: DraconianOne on February 12, 2011, 12:59:56 AM
It has a Hoverjet plane in the 1960s (which the US government somehow forgot existed in Xmen 2) and you are worried about whether they will have the period look right?  :oh_i_see:

 :facepalm:


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Thrawn on February 16, 2011, 04:37:15 PM
I'm all for seeing someone else take a stab at Magneto.  I think Ian McKellen is a great actor, but always hated him as Magneto.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Sand on February 16, 2011, 08:03:14 PM
Looks awesome. Cant figure out how I missed or didnt see some woman in nickers in the trailer that someone else saw. Must watch again.



Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Merusk on February 17, 2011, 04:54:22 AM
Looks awesome. Cant figure out how I missed or didnt see some woman in nickers in the trailer that someone else saw. Must watch again.

It's very brief, right as she's icing over.  I had to pause the trailer to see it, so Drac has better eyes than I do.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Segoris on February 17, 2011, 09:57:52 AM
Director is Matt Vaughn

I can't see the trailer at work, but I'm still in just for this alone


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: MuffinMan on February 19, 2011, 06:01:11 AM
It's very brief, right as she's icing over.  I had to pause the trailer to see it, so Drac has better eyes than I do.
I assume if it's Emma Frost she is turning into diamond. Sorry, it was bugging me.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Azazel on February 19, 2011, 05:58:33 PM
Looks.. well.. interesting.

Feels a little odd to have some of the Original X-Men without Cyclops there, but then I guess he was in the new movies due to the timeless, ageless nature of comic books. How old is he now in the comics? 35? maybe 40?


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: K9 on February 20, 2011, 03:45:37 AM
Can you even tell with all the myriad timelines?

Comics don't do canon well in my experience.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: MuffinMan on February 20, 2011, 07:34:12 AM
That's the exact reason it's hard for me to read mainstream comics anymore. You almost have to pretend that nothing is canon since everything eventually gets retconned anyways.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Merusk on February 20, 2011, 08:16:51 AM
Comics are soap operas for geeks.  At least soap operas have to move on, though, because actors age and die.   When you run into the wall of trying to keep iconic characters around for 100+ years, it's all going to get stupid and remain that way.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Khaldun on February 20, 2011, 03:50:36 PM
All-Star Superman. Case closed. It's not the age (or agelessness) of the characters that's the problem, it's the unimaginative writers trying too hard to keep fanboys happy with "continuity".


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: UnSub on February 21, 2011, 04:20:26 AM
Director is Matt Vaughn

I can't see the trailer at work, but I'm still in just for this alone

He pulled in Jane Goldman to write the script, who also scripted "Kick-Ass".


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Ironwood on June 01, 2011, 03:27:35 PM
This was good.

I'd say 'miraculous' since I almost forgot about the abortion that was x-men 3 for an hour or two.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Ard on June 01, 2011, 05:54:24 PM
Good god Ironwood.  I wrote off this movie ages ago as likely sucking, and you made me go look at the reviews.  They're literally through the roof.  53 reviews, all but one is positive, and it's still a few days before release.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Draegan on June 02, 2011, 07:35:52 AM
This was good.

I'd say 'miraculous' since I almost forgot about the abortion that was x-men 3 for an hour or two.


Really?  Now you might have me go spend 30$ to buy a ticket.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Ironwood on June 02, 2011, 11:51:36 AM
Purists may find nits to pick, but this is ME talking :

This was a good, enjoyable and fun film, well played.  The cameo was genius.

Go See It.

I suspect one day they'll have a boxed set :  X-Men First Class, X-Men and X-Men 2.

It'll be glorious.

Shutupshutupshutup, it doesn't exist, it was awful.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: SurfD on June 02, 2011, 12:10:24 PM
I suspect one day they'll have a boxed set :  X-Men First Class, X-Men and X-Men 2.
Maybe, maybe not.  I believe there is a roumor of some sort going around that that First Class may be part 1 of an X-Men beginnings trilogy.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Ironwood on June 02, 2011, 12:15:25 PM
I was going for my own joke, but thanks for playing.

I will say that I'd eagerly see a second prequel one.  I liked it.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: tar on June 03, 2011, 02:09:37 AM
Just saw this last night, enjoyed it. Loved the style to it, felt a bit like a 60s bond film. I think it was deliberate, judging by the end credits.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Surlyboi on June 03, 2011, 04:22:24 AM
Zoe Kravitz eye-banged me in the East Village last weekend. That said, she's reason enough to see the flick.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Ironwood on June 03, 2011, 04:26:59 AM
Not so much.  I thought Angel was the weakest character in it and was pretty devoid of interest.

I really did like what they did to Mystique though.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Teleku on June 03, 2011, 08:23:01 AM
Zoe Kravitz eye-banged me in the East Village last weekend.
That must have hurt.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Sky on June 03, 2011, 08:49:44 AM
The part that hurt was Steve Jobs leaping out of the shadows to collect royalties.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Surlyboi on June 04, 2011, 04:35:08 PM
Nah. It's in my contract that I get to keep any eye-banging royalties. Steve only gets to jump me in line at the cafeteria.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: rk47 on June 04, 2011, 08:20:00 PM
Whoa...banshee is....  :uhrr:
And Angel is fucked up. Who cast this bitch into the set? Seriously?!

Everything else is great. They had a bit of miss with the castings at some part. But overall, some didn't get a fair fleshing up in their character.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: SurfD on June 05, 2011, 12:16:57 AM
What was wrong with Banshee?  Other then the fact that I occasionally kept getting the mental image of one of the Weasley kids somehow ending up in an X-Men movie, I thought Banshee was ok.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Teleku on June 05, 2011, 01:23:24 AM
Saw this tonight and thought it was very well done.  I really enjoyed the setting, the story, acting...pretty much everything.

I would agree that Angle was probably one of the weakest characters (though she is hot as hell).  I thought Banshee was fine....

I eagerly await Ronald Reagans X-men!   :awesome_for_real:



Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Abagadro on June 05, 2011, 03:23:27 PM
I thought this kicked serious ass. Fassbender was great. Unfortunately it didn't open particularly well so who knows what the future holds.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: pxib on June 05, 2011, 03:51:16 PM
Supremely entertaining and with a solid plot, but weakened by uninspired direction and as clumsy script. Scenes with the CIA and various militaries were especially goofy, and even a touch of deft character development could have made several bit players (and the world they lived in) feel a lot more real. Plenty of wow moments, though, and other than January Jones' Emma Frost everybody was well cast.

Worth seeing on the big screen.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Slyfeind on June 05, 2011, 07:06:56 PM
Just saw it. I loved every second. I especially appreciate the fact that the action sequences we're all UP CLOSE SHAKY CAM AND INTENSE!!! We could see what the hell they were doing. Agree w/Teleku, those points kinda stood out. However...


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: SurfD on June 05, 2011, 11:12:46 PM


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: WindupAtheist on June 06, 2011, 02:06:14 AM
Opening of $56m this weekend. Nothing to sneeze at, but the smallest opening since the original opened with 54 eleven years ago, and even the Wolverine movie opened to 85. Thor opened to 65. All of these are making nice money, Thor is up to 400+ worldwide for example, but still...

I'll be keeping an eye on Green Lantern and Captain America. I have a sneaking suspicion that the great early 21st century superhero movie glut might be coasting a little at this point. Avengers next year will be the one to watch. With all the work Marvel is doing to lead into it, a Hulk-scale "turned a profit but meh" disappointment would be major.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Velorath on June 06, 2011, 02:20:27 AM
As far as Captain America goes, neither Joe Johnston nor Chris Evans have particularly stellar bodies of work.  If it flops, I don't think it will be any sort of statement on comic book movies as a whole aside from possibly souring peoples anticipation of the Avengers a bit.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Tannhauser on June 06, 2011, 03:34:43 AM
Saw XMFC yesterday and enjoyed it.  Good script that tied a lot of the lore into it.  Great acting by the leads, not so much some of the secondaries.  JJ has done some good acting in Mad Men, but she was weak here.  I really like the 60's vibe and Charles saying "Groovy!" was weird.  It was less a reboot than a prequel so I was thankful for that. 

But I liked Thor better and it's not even the best X-Men movie (X2).  The weak box office is a bad sign. 

If I had a major gripe it would be not enough X-Men fighting at the end.  Would have liked to see Shaw fight more and I have never heard of Riptide, or maybe I've forgotten. 

A really solid superhero movie.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Merusk on June 06, 2011, 03:50:05 AM
Opening of $56m this weekend. Nothing to sneeze at, but the smallest opening since the original opened with 54 eleven years ago, and even the Wolverine movie opened to 85. Thor opened to 65. All of these are making nice money, Thor is up to 400+ worldwide for example, but still...

I'd say it's because the X-men brand is so hurt from the last movie and a half* that they had a lot of negative backlog to overcome.  Shit's expensive, there's a recession and gas is over the top.  Personally, I'd rather spend cash on movies that don't come from a shitty franchise and see this on DVD.


* The ending of 2 was so lame it still begets "wtf" conversations.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Bunk on June 06, 2011, 06:14:47 AM
and I have never heard of Riptide, or maybe I've forgotten. 


One of the Marauders (around 1986), the story that actually got me in to collecting comics.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Typhon on June 06, 2011, 10:47:55 AM
Saw XMFC yesterday and enjoyed it.  Good script that tied a lot of the lore into it.  Great acting by the leads, not so much some of the secondaries.  JJ has done some good acting in Mad Men, but she was weak here.  I really like the 60's vibe and Charles saying "Groovy!" was weird.  It was less a reboot than a prequel so I was thankful for that. 

But I liked Thor better and it's not even the best X-Men movie (X2).  The weak box office is a bad sign. 

If I had a major gripe it would be not enough X-Men fighting at the end.  Would have liked to see Shaw fight more and I have never heard of Riptide, or maybe I've forgotten. 

A really solid superhero movie.


(responding to bolded sentence) - I did as well.  It's weird, I felt like XMFC was probably a better-crafted movie, but I enjoyed Thor more.  I go to these movies to see the title-character(s) kick ass, I guess I just didn't feel like that happened here (except, maybe, for Magneto).  As much as folks didn't like the tacked-on romance in Thor, I think it very definitely supplied the "lol, Thor's kickin ASS" moments.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Ghambit on June 07, 2011, 10:34:16 PM


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: UnSub on June 08, 2011, 06:32:43 AM
I'd say it's because the X-men brand is so hurt from the last movie and a half* that they had a lot of negative backlog to overcome. 

I'd suspect that it being set as a prequel and with unrecognisable characters probably didn't help either.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Muffled on June 08, 2011, 12:45:49 PM
It also doesn't contain Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, or
I felt it blew away both the previous X-men movies and Thor, personally.

Edit: better late than never?


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Tannhauser on June 08, 2011, 03:18:41 PM
I would have spoilered that what you did there.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Rendakor on June 08, 2011, 04:47:47 PM
I felt it blew away both the previous X-men movies and Thor, personally.
I see what you did there.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Sky on June 09, 2011, 09:35:31 AM
On the weak opening: I had not heard of it before this thread (or anywhere outside of this thread), nor have I seen a single bit of advertising for it.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Merusk on June 09, 2011, 10:09:16 AM
On the weak opening: I had not heard of it before this thread (or anywhere outside of this thread), nor have I seen a single bit of advertising for it.

You're watching the wrong shows.  I saw tons of ads leading-up to release.  Most were on Fox, of course, but they were also some during CBS's Monday lineup and during (of course) Big Bang Theory.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Sky on June 09, 2011, 11:25:59 AM
That's true, I haven't had cable tv for two months now :)


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Thrawn on June 13, 2011, 08:24:42 PM
I never liked Ian Mckellen as Magneto at all but I really liked Michael Fassbender.

Wife and I saw this opening weekend and enjoyed it.  It's really sad to think that Xmen:Last Stand did almost twice the opening weekend gross if the numbers I Googled were right.  First Class was much, much better movie then X3.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: K9 on June 15, 2011, 04:05:36 PM
Saw this tonight, I thought it was really good. At least as good as the first X-Men, if not better.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Sand on June 16, 2011, 05:21:17 PM
Havent seen this yet. Work has been nuts. Up till 3am last night and back up at 7am this morning.
I am going to try to catch it this weekend before seeing Green Lantern.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: WindupAtheist on June 24, 2011, 08:06:27 PM
Opening of $56m this weekend. Nothing to sneeze at, but the smallest opening since the original opened with 54 eleven years ago, and even the Wolverine movie opened to 85. Thor opened to 65. All of these are making nice money, Thor is up to 400+ worldwide for example, but still...

I'll be keeping an eye on Green Lantern and Captain America. I have a sneaking suspicion that the great early 21st century superhero movie glut might be coasting a little at this point. Avengers next year will be the one to watch. With all the work Marvel is doing to lead into it, a Hulk-scale "turned a profit but meh" disappointment would be major.

Mojo editorial out this week saying the same thing basically:
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3188&p=.htm

These movies aren't flopping, but they aren't doing the ridiculous numbers that make such large gambles worthwhile.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: MuffinMan on June 24, 2011, 08:23:33 PM
What do we have next summer? Dark Knight Rises, Avengers, Spider-Man reboot? I always tell myself I'm going to go and watch some of these but I don't think I've been to the movies in about a year.

I know I'll see Dark Knight Rises in the theater but that's probably it.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Chimpy on June 25, 2011, 01:27:41 PM
I saw it today. Liked it.



Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Kitsune on June 25, 2011, 03:17:34 PM
Emma Frost fell totally flat in this one, in my opinion.  She's supposed to be imposing and regal, even as she's walking around in an absurd almost-naked getup.  In First Class she was a boring errand girl.  Not even a tiny smidgen of gravity to her.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: SurfD on June 25, 2011, 11:31:02 PM
Emma Frost fell totally flat in this one, in my opinion.  She's supposed to be imposing and regal, even as she's walking around in an absurd almost-naked getup.  In First Class she was a boring errand girl.  Not even a tiny smidgen of gravity to her.
Have you seen some of the latest incarnations of Emma Frost?  Was reading a stand alone book in Chapters the other day, and they had Emma in her typical bondage queen getup, but half the time she needed to make a psychic connection to someone she ran around kissing or licking them.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Sand on June 26, 2011, 08:19:53 PM
Saw it. Loved it.
Almost on par with the Ironman movie but not quite that good.
Definitely better than nearly every X-men movie that came before it.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: naum on June 26, 2011, 08:37:22 PM
Saw it. It was OK. Some of the casting was solid, other parts not so well.

The story, meh, though my expectations were lower.

Entertaining, worth the $8.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Draegan on July 11, 2011, 07:32:10 AM
I saw this over the weekend and I thought it was fantastic.  Best Xmen movie imo.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Tannhauser on July 11, 2011, 05:08:15 PM
Setting it in the 60's was a genius move IMO.  Hope they have more tangles with the Hellfire Club.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Khaldun on July 12, 2011, 09:04:46 PM
It really was very well done. About the only thing that didn't quite make sense to me was Magneto suddenly deciding that a cape and other garish costumery was how he should look. The helmet made sense, the rest seemed odd in terms of how the character was written.


Title: Re: X-men: The First Class
Post by: Ragnoros on July 28, 2011, 09:57:53 PM