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I hate this thing, but some people have done great things with it already.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/668773800_512.jpg)

I'm having uncanny valley reactions every time I see one of these.

I can appreciate that the image above is awesome.

But also weird.

I believe you can also use the mousewheel to zoom in at the portrait stage. I've done some funky shit with characters peering into the camera with "Is this thing on?!" expressions.

Gay biker?

Looks like he's caught in a landslide with no escape from reality.

Ah, no wife beater option in the editor?

But either way, I'm staying well away from this for a while. Until you run the creator you just see a little silhouetto of a man when you log on.

 :awesome_for_real:

Anyone know a way to disable this feature to spare him his life from this monstrosity?

This is CCP's idea of heaven for everyone.

They have to force it on us eventually because it's part of the plan for Incar-a-ahh to save every one of us, every man every woman every child... from something or other.

Looks like
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.spinner.com/media/2007/06/freddy-mercury-200-06060.jpg)

That's who I thought too.

Or really just any clone from the 70s.

I agree, btw, it puts you right plunk in the middle of the uncanny valley and I really don't care for it. It also seems to take away lot of the exotic looks that I associate with Eve. On the other hand, I think some of those (most of those?) looks are pretty unapproachable so while Incarna may be a bust, this might actually make the game more approachable emotionally for new players.

Until they wander out of the character creator and realize the image is nothing more than a visual postage stamp in the corner people quickly turn off. I know they're desperate to try and backport tech to make it look like they're eve focused but introducing this editor without Incarna itself is pointless.

As far as anyone can tell Incarna is pointless. Even Mynxee is basically saying so and she was actually a supporter of the thing.,

My first reaction was to look for the +rep button.  I need to spend more time away from goonfleet.com.

Design your character for the portrait thumbnail, not to look good at full size. I made that mistake. Looks like crap in game. Here's hope for a goddamn cosmetic surgeon in Incarna.

http://storageserver.be/images/evenew.jpg

(If my webserver isn't being a fag again, it should link to an image)

Joan Rivers?

 :ye_gods:

Oh, I meant the most recent Joan Rivers iteration.

(http://i.imgur.com/tFhHH.jpg)

What a massive waste of time and development effort. The character images that once had a sense of identity, attachment, racial differences and lots of sci-fi props now look generic and colorless. Nice base models, technically superior, huge if I was playing the Ikea version of barbie doll dress up but an astoundingly pointless addition to Eve.

Wow. That is....just wow. And not "good wow". I mean like "Did he just come from Folsom to take over 0.0?" wow.

It's the smile and the leather sleeveless vest.

So you missed the wordplay between eldaec and Oban then?

Apparently so.  I didn't see anything about Freddy.  Anyway, a thread is always better with a picture of Freddy Mercury.

(http://oi54.tinypic.com/rbfex4.jpg)

I'm marking it 8.

It's amazing how after all these years their UI is STILL crap. The image you'll be seeing every second you login won't be show till after you can't change it. The lighting effects have some that make you face a white blob. CCP posted you CAN petition for a redo, maybe, once, if they arn't busy, possibly.

I need to petition, and I'm sure the'll going to overloaded with the 1000's like me who aren't happy with their first try.

You know when eve started off they actually had published an app that let you play around with making your face for the game to practice before you actually logged in to create your first character. That helped build up excitement for it, and also let you practice with it for a bit.

Funny they had all their good ideas when it started off... oh yeah that was another company. Never mind...

Actually, you can take four different snapshots at thumbnail size in parallel, retake them and finally chose one. You probably hit Save immediately.

I just gave up at some point. It's sad, because those that look good in thumbnail, look like cheap Poser 5 models in the fullscreen screenshots people took from the creator.

Also, Joan Rivers. Fuck you  :oh_i_see:

Then again, fucking big eyes Gallente is a horrible template to do something with. My throw away Amarr character looks way better, and that by hitting the randomize buttons a bunch of times.

This World of Darkness tech demo is pretty impressive; it isn't Eve Online though. Where are all the crazy hairstyles and futuristic accessories? 12 different kinds of aviator sunglasses and half a dozen hipster hairstyles from the late 1990s? Give me a break...

I suspect it may be tricky converting my character to the new engine, then.

(http://i.imgur.com/uorBY.jpg)

MARK IT ZERO!

This isn't 0.0, Smokey. There are rules.

Facial decorations are, in total, about 8 different shades of aviator sunglasses. Even City of Heroes could do jewellery (and I think tattoo's). You can't even re-color most of the clothing which makes the options even smaller than they appear at first. And the detail in the clothing is probably why the bulk body sliders (height, weight, muscle) are neutered so that scaling is not an issue.

The lack of visual difference is mostly being covered up by people going to extremes with the portrait capture camera angles, backdrops and lighting. If all the characters were put in a well lit room it would look like a comedy clone-farm.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1451716


So you'll get one do-over, which I'll need for my alt that didn't turn out so well.  The 'grace period' applies to actually setting a portrait rather than a silhouette.

I agree, it looks more like a step backward.  The clothing is bland with no colour options and it looks really limited in accessories or markings compared to before.

*sigh* There is so much negativity here.

You guys should know by now that CCP always has these awesome ideas that sound great and then releases half-baked crap after they discovered they don't have enough Time/Manpower/Playtesting to make it work proper. See: Faction Warfare, Dominion Sov Changes, Planetary Interaction, etc etc...

Just be patient. I wouldn't be surprised if we get some new hairstyles for Incursion 1.5, some facial tattoos for Incarna and new sunglasses in Winter 2012. And not only that but also: UI changes (new neocom), Hybrid Weapon buff (I hope!)*, Supercarrier nerf* and much more. Life is good.

Calapine

Fake Edit: No, I am not being sarcastic/ironic. Enjoying EvE is all about expectation management and looking on the bright side of life.

Real Edit: *unconfirmed speculation based on wishful thinking and CSM-CCP meeting logs.

Pretty sure they have plans to add a lot more shit in the future including tattoos. Also nice side effect is that avatars are now rendered server side so you just download images.

I was not expecting that pic in the OP; it destroyed me.  Might be the hardest I've laughed in a year.  I woke the dog, I might have woken my family.  Holy shit that was funny. 

In game pics should be RL, imo.  Up the ante a bit. 

I hope so because the new editor feel like about 20 steps back from the old.

Doesn't matter how many more steps they take when they are on the wrong path. None of this makes Eve a better game and god knows there's a billion things that could be added to make it more fun with the development effort they are wasting.

... Though of course it's just the leftovers from WoD in practice. Back-ported to Eve to make them feel they're getting something for their monthly sub.

Thank you for paying to test our vampire MMO features. - CCP

PS: Deal with it.

I've discovered the shitty options aren't nearly as frustrating as the actual act of editing the portrait.

<click>...*wait*...*wait*
No that hair doesn't look right.
<click>...*wait*...*wait*
 :uhrr:

Especially as the thuimbnails of the different elements are so small and indistinct. The only way to get a decent look at the options is to preview them all on your character which takes ages. Why the fuck can't they have a decent UI which focuses on one element at a time and displays it to you in a useful size?

You know, if they fucked all this avatar shit off and let us customise the ships... you know, the things that are actually the Eve drawcard.

Hell if CCP said "you an keep your old avatar but never leave your ship" I'd sign on the dotted line.

In my opinion, even the ships would be pointless to customize repaint, because most players zoom out and play [] brackets in space.

I'd customize the shit out of my ship. Do I play brackets? of course I do. It's kinda good for threat assessment, that said, I still like to zoom in on my ride every now and then.

That said, I find the wailing and gnashing of teeth on the forums pretty goddamn funny, considering most of them never look at their pilots' pictures.

That's rhetorical, isn't it.

In the third-person view you are looking at it all the time.  And really, aren't you the one that counts?

Hell if CCP said "you can have your cake, but eat it as well" I too, would sign on the dotted line.

These are so much worse than the previous.  I'm talking a EQ2 level of soul-removal here.

I'm going to pour one out for those who have fallen.
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/yegolev.eve.jpg)
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/fen_hu.jpg)

I've decided to have fun with it. All of my characters will now have extreme closeups.

(http://homepage.mac.com/surlyboi/talifearinyoface.jpg)

btw, in case anyone hasn't figured it out, the reason can't have tattoos, metal parts, or other cool futuristic shit (apart from it not being needed for WoD) is that CCP plan to nickel and dime you for that crap through micro-trans.

Your extreme closeup-fu is weak.  Behold!

(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2128/goldy.jpg)

That's awesome. I managed to get just one eye in on one of them.

Reminds me of:
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/sulu_tongue.gif)

I was going to keep it that way, too, until I was struck with the opportunity.

(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5913/iseewhatyoudid.jpg)

 :awesome_for_real:

Fuck, we need rep buttons so much.

(http://www.shrani.si/f/1j/af/6aZP1E2/heh.jpg)

Had to re-post this.

That's close to what I was going for.

All sorts of win for the Trekkies :D

Basically, I can see this turning into bad driver's license pictures. Which, is pretty goddamned awesome.

Because there's only one development team working sequentially on single features. Especially since it's tech being developed anyway, EVE or not. You do know that they're working on another MMO using exactly that tech, don't you?

Reading between the lines, it looks like the teams responsible for core EVE are hard at work to clean up the spaghetti code mess they've built up until recently. So you can't blame them for not shitting out tons of new features or fixing longstanding issues and niggles that they intend to do away with anyway during the replumbing.

Cripes this thing is terrible, that the portrait photos end up looking terrible make it even worse.

Maybe I'll go for the "I had a stroke" look.

No. They have a decent sized team (when a dev gave team numbers) working on trying to hammer the spagetti into a shape where it wasn't laggy compared to what they used to be capable of, one team (eg 4-5 people) working on eve-gate and one team on PvE content (ie. incursions). That puts Eve, the spaceships game, having about the same developer momentum as a near dead game like vanguard or fallen earth.

I'm also pretty sure Eve-gate is another back-port of WoD content. I mean those vampires have to plan their gatherings and social maneuvering.

The character editor is characterless. Tried to make my alt not look stoned and failed, plus *all* the appearance options are identical even though she's Minmatar as opposed to Caldari (though she had Asian eyes and the Achura did not, go figure).

Better a clean up and no features now than everything becoming unpredictable and exploitable like crap, requiring you to tiptoe around issues to avoid GM wrath, because no one knows what the code does anymore.

They have a large teamworking on a project called Carbon which is kind of their new MMO production and pipeline middleware which will be used for all of their current and future products. It's considered a separate project within CCP along with DUST514, Eve and WoD. There's a dev blog about it here (http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=788).

I like the character creator, and everywhere from Kugu to illum the reaction is pretty good.

How could it not be?  I mean:

(http://i.imgur.com/wXbn6.png)

Who wants a Mustache Ride!     :ye_gods::uhrr: :ye_gods:

Apparently the guy on the left just got one.  :ye_gods:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41P9NTRT0QL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

 :drill: :drillf: :drill: :drillf: :drill:
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/90166901_256.jpg)
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/666005/thehaleberry2.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs786.ash1/167656_484992119701_505804701_6094027_7147721_n.jpg)
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1466684904_512.jpg)

I hope CCP upgrades to Cocoa soon!

 :awesome_for_real:

Well played, sir.

Their damn portrait server doesn't even render exactly the same as the client does. If that WARP software rasterizer is so damn compliant as Microsoft pretends, it has to be an issue with CCPs software. Seems like they can't even keep it in sync with the client.  :oh_i_see:

Are you suggesting there might be desynks between the eve Client and server? How dare you!

When code and assets start to desync, it's time to really worry.