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Are you thinking what I am thinking?   :drillf:

That it is a company that does not discriminate on the bandwagons they'll jump on?

I know. It's Blizzard. It's just getting old.

Reference. Laugh track. NI!

The funny jokes are funny once, then tedious.  I wish they'd trim that back a bit and concentrate on the world.  I suspect that I'm growing out of this lore/world. 

I'm not someone that holds Blizzard stories with any sort of esteem, but the lack of a sense of humor (or any real storytelling capacity) is significantly less annoying than getting reminded of that absence by a gratuitous pop culture reference every five minutes.

At least when I'm being asked to collect animal giblets for some vague reason it's just background noise.

I don't know, to be honest the only reason I can even stomach the same old mmo tropes is because of the pop culture stuff.

It works sometimes but when it's done subtlety instead of Griff Petersen and his son Brothie.

I think they're pretty amusing. Different strokes and all that.

They're considerably less amusing if, like me, you don't actually get the pop culture reference  :oh_i_see:

I suspect the quest is going to be some lame Plants vs Zombies simulator.

Just the thought of a Tower Defense style game in WoW is kind of amusing in and of itself.

+1 For the people who find the majority of the pop-culture references strained and irritating.

It wasn't bad when they first started, but it's just layered on now, like grandma's makeup.

It's one more reason why Cataclysm doesn't interest me much at all.  It really shouldn't be surprising given their desire to be Facebook, whether players wanted it or not.

I think they are just catering to a younger crowd, and all you old farts are just being old and farty.

Achievements themselves are something that only kidlings give a shit about, so old farts shouldn't care what the names are.

+1, from an old fart.

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lolwut?  I'm an old fart, and getting Loremaster in WoW was the only reason I played as long as I did...

When I was still playing, it was only the old farts who gave a rat's ass about achievements. The young kids only cared about the ones that would gain them some new and rare shiny.

I mostly enjoyed achievements, and I'm probably one of the older people here.

Yeah, I think that my MMO terms I'm reasonably old and farty and achievements are the crack that kept me hooked to wow for ages.

Yeah I don't understand what's not to like about achievements.

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I like Jonathan Swift's take on the joke more.

Sure, you've done the same dungeon 97 times, but if you do it 20 more times - each time with everyone in your group wearing nothing in your boot slot - you get 10 achievement points! Voila, content!

I think old-timers generally get off on beating the game.  Achievements reek of XBOX live to me.  Like the new guitar hero games; I still play the older ones more because it is hard to actually beat the songs.  The new games, where the songs are almost all much easier and the only replay value is achievement points, don't last very long for me.

I remember the first time I beat Super Mario bros.  I don't remember the first time I jumped back and forth over the hammer brothers 38 times in a row while enlarged, and the idea of building games around stuff like that just strikes me as dumb.  I could be idiosyncratic.

You kinda wandered around there, but the existence of achievements does not preclude difficulty. See: heroic ICC, or even how few people cleared ICC before the 30% buff was fully in.

I don't really think the game is built around achievements. They just give you something extra to mess around with. I'm closer to 40 than 30 by the way, so I really don't think this is an age thing.

I like when they light up, but mostly when they light up as a side effect of something I was doing anyway. I haven't gone out of my way to get one since I got my Matron title for my DK last year. I reeeeeeally doubt it has a damn thing to do with age, and is much more a personality thing.

Agree with Sjofn, they're fun and it's cool when you get them. It's one of the things I like about getting a fresh 80 - the achiev spam for a few weeks while you do heroics for the first time.

I'm willing to go a bit out of my way for some of them for rewards - mounts and titles, but not the super hard/annoying/grindy ones. Although getting my undead mage the valentines one was worth it because "Hideous the Lovefool" just works.

I have been meaning to get the fishing one for my orc Shaman for some time now but it's a bit too hard/grindy/annoying. "Salty Gorgeous" would be the prize though....  :drill:

Yeah, I like the Salty title but it's just more trouble than it's worth for me. I've been too lazy to get Chef, too.

I just logged him on to check. Only things I'm missing are the rare fish catch and the fishing contest. I'll give the contest a go next weekend, see how bad it is on my server.

Considering Blizzard's relations with PopCap (see Peggle & Bejewelled addons) it may not be that lame.

EDIT Okay, so not the only one come to this conclusion:

Just watched that video, all I can say is that I can practically FEEL the wasted hours (and eventually DAYS) I am going to put into that going for that achieve being leached away even as I type this..

Still looks that lame.

Oh Well.

But remember: achievements don't drive gameplay!

I'm old and farty, don't care about achievements, but don't care that others love them.  I also don't care if they are funny, not funny, or not relevant either.  I do like that they have given a lot of people something to aspire to and connect to the game better.  The more people that are happy and playing the game, the better it is for my experience.  MMO's without people are, well, really poorly developed single player games.

I do care when I have to die over and over in a daily pug because some guy wants an achievement.  I REALLY care when it is an achievement I already have because I died over and over for some other twit. (Tanked one like this last night)

I like achievements in the sense that I like the whole "Hey, you did something interesting" bit. But not the extent of, you know, trying to get one. (Not unless I'm really bored).

So I'm all for things like noting down that you've won a round of Wintergrasp, or managed to burn down a particularly powerful boss really quickly, or even that you've done a shit-ton of quests in an area.

Stuff that flows naturally from the game, so to speak.

I'm not adverse to achievements but I never really played the game in order to get them specifically.  I never got interested in it.

if you can't enjoy that peacebloom vs ghouls game then you're broken on a basic level.

This. First time some pug retard wipes us for an achievement he's votekicked or I bail, period.

I love just killing Moorabi after a failed Less-Rabi attempt.

Peacebloom v. Ghouls could be amusing.  As for achievements, I go for them if they're not too annoying.  It gives you something to do when you run out of ideas.

Umm... why ever stay in a group like that? Get out of there and re-queue after the first wipe.

The "Glory of the Hero" achievement was kinda fun to get and the mount is alright looking. It's just a matter of time-investment/difficulty for me.

As for the 310% mount achievement in ICC? Fuck. That. Noise.

None of those are particularly hard.  We just need heroic Putricide and the LK\Sindragosa hard modes.  Everything else was just a matter of "hai guyz, let's do this tonight!" followed by "ok!" and then it happened.  But then you really need a group of 10 people who play well together and are fairly competent to make it easy.  Luckily my 10m group has been playing together for almost 2 years with 6-7 of us so we're pretty tight.