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Title: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Jeff Kelly on July 26, 2010, 05:10:52 PM
Has anybody watched the premiere?

It's basically House p.i. and I mean this in an entirely positive way. Created by Stephen Moffat. First episode was brilliant.



Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Mattemeo on July 26, 2010, 08:33:54 PM
Fun stuff, I'll tune in again next week. I'm a sucker for Sherlock Holmes and aside from Downey Jnr and Guy Ritchie's stab at the property, there hasn't exactly been a whole lot of it around for some time. Got to say, though - Moffat does like his odd looking lead actors. Not entirely surprising for a man with a LEGO mini-fig head, but there you go. Cue the Moffat/Gatiss haters.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Jeff Kelly on July 27, 2010, 12:08:40 AM
I must say however that the "brilliant but socially inept" trope get's a little old. I liked it a lot.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Ard on July 27, 2010, 10:39:38 AM
I liked it a fair amount, but I'm really hoping they don't turn this into Dexter.  They're playing off the sociopath angle a bit hard.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Murgos on July 27, 2010, 10:42:06 AM
I must say however that the "brilliant but socially inept" trope get's a little old. I liked it a lot.

To be fair, Arthur Conan Doyle pretty much invented (at least perfected) the trope with Sherlock Holmes so claiming that as a fault seems a bit much.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Tebonas on July 27, 2010, 10:51:04 PM
Since, according to the creators, House was designed after Sherlock Holmes, Holmes being basically House p.i. shouldn't be too shocking  :awesome_for_real:

Will look into the series, thanks for the heads-up.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Quinton on July 28, 2010, 01:54:48 AM
That was a solid start.  Looking forward to more.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Arthur_Parker on July 28, 2010, 04:00:32 AM
Martin Freeman is a great choice for Watson, couple of minor plot holes but very enjoyable.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Bunk on July 28, 2010, 06:38:56 AM
Yea, I'm a big Martin Freeman fan, and I have to say I really enjoyed this.

Loving the assistant girl as well. "Bye bye"


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Jeff Kelly on July 28, 2010, 06:56:04 AM
That was - for me - the most hilarious scene by far. I mean who else would hit on the Assistant of the guy that just threatened and intimidated you.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Ironwood on July 28, 2010, 02:48:17 PM
Just watched.  Was Good.

Makes one wonder about why writing on Who was so fucking bad this season if they can polish Holmes for a modern audience.

Assistant was hawt as fuck.  Princess Bride references awesome.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: NowhereMan on July 28, 2010, 04:41:40 PM
That was really good. Like others have said it's a detective House but House was a medical Sherlock Holmes, I think they did a good job of capturing Holmes and Watson. The fact that Watson's backstory is pretty much the same is kind of cool and sort of sad (he's still a doctor who saw action in Afghanistan).


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: palmer_eldritch on July 28, 2010, 04:50:58 PM
That was really good. Like others have said it's a detective House but House was a medical Sherlock Holmes, I think they did a good job of capturing Holmes and Watson. The fact that Watson's backstory is pretty much the same is kind of cool and sort of sad (he's still a doctor who saw action in Afghanistan).

Really? I didn't know that was his story in the original version too. That is kind of sad.

I thought this was a lot of fun. I don't have high hopes of BBC drama any more so it was nice to be proved wrong with this one.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Arthur_Parker on August 02, 2010, 03:13:18 AM
2nd episode, still good but dialogue is a bit off sometimes and it's trying too hard to be obviously funny at points.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: palmer_eldritch on August 15, 2010, 01:22:50 PM
Um, what? I was looking forward to episode four today (to find out how the cliffhangar at the end of episode three is resolved!) and it seems the entire season is only three episodes. This isn't a break like American shows have, just a very short run. Hopefully the second season will be a little longer.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Bunk on August 17, 2010, 12:19:12 PM
2nd episode, still good but dialogue is a bit off sometimes and it's trying too hard to be obviously funny at points.

It didn't help that the cabbie really reminded me of Ronnie Corbett.

Otherwise, I quite enjoyed it. Seriously though, what the fuck is it with British TV and completely random season lengths? I thought Misfits was bad enough at only six episodes.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: NowhereMan on August 19, 2010, 06:15:18 AM
Each episode was about 1.5 hours so you could argue you've got a nine episode length of writing in there. Ending episode three on a massive cliffhanger seemed a bit odd though, unless it's part of Moffat's scheme to guarantee getting a second season. I really enjoyed it though, I think giving it a second season might be enough to have gotten a reasonable fill of modern Holmes. At least it definitely feels too short and I think another run might be enough to feel complete, any more after that would be icing on top.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Arthur_Parker on August 19, 2010, 06:34:44 AM
Non standard season lengths make perfect sense, producers will always by limited by budget, time and the amount of suitable content.  Having a set number is odd because canned and lower quality episodes lower the overall standard.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Ironwood on August 20, 2010, 02:13:02 AM
Each episode was about 1.5 hours so you could argue you've got a nine episode length of writing in there. Ending episode three on a massive cliffhanger seemed a bit odd though, unless it's part of Moffat's scheme to guarantee getting a second season. I really enjoyed it though, I think giving it a second season might be enough to have gotten a reasonable fill of modern Holmes. At least it definitely feels too short and I think another run might be enough to feel complete, any more after that would be icing on top.

It was his Richenbach Falls Ending.

You all didn't know that ?


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Ingmar on August 20, 2010, 01:02:40 PM
So this is set in the modern era or something?

How does the acting stack up to the Jeremy Brett version?


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: NowhereMan on August 20, 2010, 01:18:51 PM
Very much updated, the acting's good provided you don't mind Holmes being a cross between the new Doctor and House. I'd say it's definitely worth setting some time aside to watch if you enjoy Holmes.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Chimpy on May 22, 2011, 12:38:45 PM
Necro.

Caught the first season (3 episodes) on Netflix streaming last night.

Really liked it, especially Watson. Looking forward to the second three episodes when they show up.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Ironwood on May 22, 2011, 12:54:41 PM
According to Moffat Twitter, it's almost finished filming.

So, we ought to see it soon.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Slyfeind on May 22, 2011, 02:18:36 PM
Oh thar's the thread for Sherlock!

I too saw this recently. Really liked it. I didn't make the connection that updated Watson saw service in Afghanistan, just like the original. (I remembered the original was in the military, but not Afghanistan. Oh history.)



Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Numtini on May 23, 2011, 06:04:07 AM
We saw it on Mystery last summer. I quite enjoyed it, my partner somewhat less so.

If I had a criticism, I'm not sure if it's just the arrogant know it all archetype or seeing Moffat's hand in both series, but honestly, I kept expecting Holmes to go back to the Tardis, not his apartment.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: cironian on January 05, 2012, 02:48:47 PM
Arise!

Second season just started, and the first episode is amazingly good.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Llyse on January 06, 2012, 01:05:22 PM
Sweet... I know what I'll be watching Sunday night. :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Chimpy on January 06, 2012, 03:53:40 PM
Someone wake me in 8 months when we get to watch it on this side of the pond :(


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Ironwood on January 09, 2012, 01:31:19 PM
Arise!

Second season just started, and the first episode is amazingly good.

Yes.

Dammit.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Johny Cee on January 09, 2012, 01:34:27 PM
Arise!

Second season just started, and the first episode is amazingly good.

Yes.

Dammit.

Does it burn to complement the Moffat?   :grin:


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Ironwood on January 09, 2012, 01:50:55 PM
Only in the sense that it reinforces for me that he can do it well when he's not in charge and therefore allowed to go completely off the fucking rails.

Though the wife hated the ending.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: tar on January 12, 2012, 05:13:16 AM
About halfway through Scandal I was thinking 'Hmm, this is looking like a confused mess. Not good.' but apparently that was intentional! Worked out well in the end.

Baskerville one... yeah not so much. Still enjoyed it but by comparison to Scandal I don't think it worked as well.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Ironwood on January 12, 2012, 05:27:05 AM
No, it was a little weaker and there were a couple of potential plot holes that were only narrowly missed.  Also, the tour guide looked too much like Moriarty.

But I do love the casting in this.  The two leads are so strong and such a joy to watch it's frightening.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: tar on January 12, 2012, 08:10:02 AM
This is true. I can't think of anyone who'd do a better job than those two.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Chimpy on January 23, 2012, 08:23:42 PM
Someone wake me in 8 months when we get to watch it on this side of the pond :(

I just noticed on the PBS site for Masterpiece that the first episode of the second series is set to air on 5/6/12 here in the U.S.



Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: RhyssaFireheart on January 30, 2012, 07:27:51 AM
Happened to randomly catch an episode ("The Blind Banker") of this over the weekend on Masterpiece Mystery.  I liked it, although I wasn't expecting it to be 1.5 hours.  Now I guess I have to do some research to find out where this fits into the season and see if I can find the other episodes.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Ironwood on January 30, 2012, 07:30:59 AM
Fairly sure that was only the second one ?

Get the first one watched and then the rest.  You'll enjoy it, even if the whiff of Moffat sometimes pervades.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Llyse on February 07, 2012, 06:42:44 AM
You could just torrent like everyone in Australia does...  :why_so_serious:

Just watched all of the 2nd season. yeah...

Superb.  :heart:


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Sky on February 07, 2012, 07:10:32 AM
My fiancee really likes the current movies for some reason, but even she has to admit the series is just so much better.

The timing on the american run sucks - that's after we shut down the DVR for the summer. Season 1 isn't Prime-eligible, so I guess the old lady is going to have to pony up $20.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: apocrypha on February 07, 2012, 10:52:22 AM
Even I thought this was pretty good, and you know what a picky twat I am  :why_so_serious:

Although... not sure they needed to be 90 minutes long. Snappier pacing and 60 mins would have worked for me. Minor gripe though. Excellent cast, really good chemistry between them all.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: fengzi597 on March 04, 2012, 07:12:28 PM
i love Second season than first.Sherlock was like a human in the second.He is so cute.And it is no doubt that John H. Watson loves him.LOL :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Ironwood on March 05, 2012, 03:24:54 AM
lol indeed.



Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Der Helm on March 05, 2012, 06:24:08 AM
Can we keep him/it ?


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Samwise on March 07, 2012, 11:32:00 AM
Okay, but you're responsible for walking it AT LEAST twice a day.  The first time I see a stain on the floor, it's off to the shelter.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Sky on March 07, 2012, 12:38:29 PM
1/2 of its post end in lol


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Fraeg on March 25, 2012, 11:10:27 AM
about 3/4 of the way through the first episode.  Lovely.... nothing like nowing you have several episodes of some awesomeness ahead. 


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Ironwood on March 25, 2012, 12:40:37 PM
knowing.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: UnSub on April 28, 2012, 05:47:53 AM
"Sherlock" frustrates me. It's a clever show that is also full of stupid parts that have to happen 'just so' both the plot can continue and so that Sherlock can appear to be so much better than everyone else.

I've seen 4 of the 6 episodes and the first one was very strong, but the rest have those dumb moments that see my eyes roll and cheapens the rest of the show for me.


It stands out for me because the audience is meant to be drawn into the cleverness of the show, but often the set-ups involve a lot of stupid moments.

I do like the jittery-ness of Moriarty though. Watson is pretty much useless though (and I'm aware that some people think that his point is to be useless, but as a character he is given very little to do because Holmes can do anything he can do++).


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Ironwood on April 28, 2012, 06:15:27 AM
That rant is familiar somehow.

 :grin:


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Chimpy on April 28, 2012, 11:42:10 AM
Someone is channeling your Moffat angst, Ironwood!


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Furiously on April 29, 2012, 12:58:30 AM
I do like the jittery-ness of Moriarty though. Watson is pretty much useless though (and I'm aware that some people think that his point is to be useless, but as a character he is given very little to do because Holmes can do anything he can do++).



Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Fabricated on April 30, 2012, 01:27:38 PM
One thing where the modern one deviates from the books characterwise is that Sherlock isn't that great in a fight, when in the books he's pretty strong/fit and can beat ass if need be.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Fraeg on May 06, 2012, 01:07:40 PM
knowing.

well I am living in the now so nowing  :grin:


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Morat20 on May 08, 2012, 03:19:46 PM
I do like the jittery-ness of Moriarty though. Watson is pretty much useless though (and I'm aware that some people think that his point is to be useless, but as a character he is given very little to do because Holmes can do anything he can do++).

John's also there to interface with regular society for Sherlock. You know, handle all the boring shit and the 'people stuff' that Sherlock can, at best, handle intellectually. Which is right there in the books too.

In the show, a lot of his stuff is implied -- he's the writer, the biographer. He made Sherlock famous (to his disgust) and I suspect gets some of his revenge against Sherlock in the writing. The .

He just doesn't have that much of a role in the books, other than backup. And being competent in general, if not genius.

Just saw the first episode of Season Two:


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: UnSub on May 08, 2012, 05:33:33 PM
That rant is familiar somehow.

 :grin:

I never got into the new "Doctor Who" shows either.

One thing where the modern one deviates from the books characterwise is that Sherlock isn't that great in a fight, when in the books he's pretty strong/fit and can beat ass if need be.

In the "Sherlock versus The Asians" episode it showed that he wasn't so great in a fight, but then in one of the recent ones he spent his time easily beating the crap out of a CIA black ops agent. But I've missed two shows, so perhaps I've missed something there.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Sky on May 09, 2012, 09:56:35 AM
Is season 2 running in america now?


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Chimpy on May 09, 2012, 06:23:48 PM
Is season 2 running in america now?

First episode ran on PBS Sunday. It is available online at PBS .com (which won't let me watch it on my phone because I am not I the US at the moment :( )


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Sky on May 10, 2012, 07:51:07 AM
Wasn't it on AMC or something before? I have a new DVR and probably need another one because mine is trying to record all episodes of everything and I have to manually prune it.

Anyway, we weren't sure if that was the new Sherlock, so we recorded it. Yay.


Title: Re: Sherlock (BBC One)
Post by: Chimpy on May 24, 2012, 08:11:36 PM
Finished watching the last episode of the second season just now. Even with the little annoyances I really liked the series.

I thoroughly enjoyed the deerstalker gag, but I am easily entertained at times.