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Title: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Slyfeind on July 20, 2010, 11:37:34 AM
I actually enjoyed this mostly. It was predictable in all the right ways. Characterization was dreadfully thin, and they could have been more creative with the magic. The mop and broom sequence was perfect imo. I thought they were going to do something like "How's your apprentice doing?" Nic Cage opens the door, glances at him wrestling with a broom, "Still working on it harharhar." But no, they went nuts with it.

Oh, and I could have done without the opening sequence, "This is the wizards in their heyday, aren't they awesome (not really)." Totally unnecessary exposition that was explained later through regular storytelling.


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Ghambit on July 21, 2010, 10:04:48 AM
I too enjoyed this flick, but let's be honest.  Most of us in this forum if given a wad of money would've come up with a WAY better interpretation of the theme of this movie.  I mean, it's fantasy druidic magic.  Do you know where you could actually GO with this trope?  To me, the movie was too simple and bland... sophomoric even.  Rental quality really.  This is from the top down, from the theme, to the characters, to the specific use of the magics themselves... all overtly simple and bland.


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Pennilenko on July 21, 2010, 12:17:41 PM
... all overtly simple and bland.

A perfect description for a majority of the people they were hoping to sell tickets to.


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Slyfeind on July 21, 2010, 12:21:01 PM
i.e. kids?


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Ghambit on July 21, 2010, 01:38:02 PM
Kids these days would be bored, which is why something like Avatar will do better at the box office.  This film basically needed Avatar's complexity and use of magic.


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Slyfeind on July 21, 2010, 03:16:03 PM
It looked like a 90-minute version of Wizards of Waverly Place, which is what they seemed to be going for. I guess my question is, why would someone go to this movie expecting Avatar-level complexity?


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: stu on July 21, 2010, 04:19:42 PM
I'd still like to see this one, but let's hope Season of the Witch is better.


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Ghambit on July 21, 2010, 09:23:33 PM
It looked like a 90-minute version of Wizards of Waverly Place, which is what they seemed to be going for. I guess my question is, why would someone go to this movie expecting Avatar-level complexity?

You answered your own question in your statement.
Anyways, I wasnt expecting it... I just wanted it.


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Abagadro on July 21, 2010, 09:25:10 PM
Avatar was complex?  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Slyfeind on July 21, 2010, 09:58:57 PM
It looked like a 90-minute version of Wizards of Waverly Place, which is what they seemed to be going for. I guess my question is, why would someone go to this movie expecting Avatar-level complexity?

You answered your own question in your statement.

That didn't make any fucking sense. Awesome!


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Ghambit on July 22, 2010, 01:20:49 PM
Avatar was complex?  :awesome_for_real:

Compared to SA?  Heck yah.

It looked like a 90-minute version of Wizards of Waverly Place, which is what they seemed to be going for. I guess my question is, why would someone go to this movie expecting Avatar-level complexity?

You answered your own question in your statement.

That didn't make any fucking sense. Awesome!
He stated it was a 90-min version of WoWP.  Then he asked why someone would go to this movie expecting/wanting something else.


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Slyfeind on July 22, 2010, 09:03:49 PM
It looked like a 90-minute version of Wizards of Waverly Place, which is what they seemed to be going for. I guess my question is, why would someone go to this movie expecting Avatar-level complexity?

You answered your own question in your statement.

That didn't make any fucking sense. Awesome!
He stated it was a 90-min version of WoWP.  Then he asked why someone would go to this movie expecting/wanting something else.

Meaning I guess fans of WoWP want movies to be like Avatar...?


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Ghambit on July 23, 2010, 06:49:41 AM
 :facepalm:
You win.


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Pennilenko on July 23, 2010, 08:39:47 AM
There is so much ridiculous, "I'm going to be a cool nerd and shit on everything." on this board. The movie was fun, end of story. Fuck all the haters.


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Typhon on July 23, 2010, 09:56:07 AM
Good to know, I saw the trailer and thought it look like a good romp, glad to hear that is what it is.


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Ghambit on July 25, 2010, 11:12:39 AM
So all our posts must now devolve into a simple "thumbs up/down" assessment or risk persecution?   :why_so_serious:
No one's hating, but dont be a fool and think a good romp or fun movie means the movie wasnt lacking.  This was a fun movie, yes, but given the premise of Merlinian magic it was very short and lightweight.

So why care??  Because the way Hollywood works, there will be no similar script for a very long time.  So when one person writes a fun yet sophomoric flick, good luck finding a true masterpiece later on down the road - it wont make the cut and you're left with wasted potential, especially with narrow themes such as this (urban mages).


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Samwise on July 25, 2010, 01:16:23 PM
Saw this last night and thought it wasn't bad.  The "mirror trick" was the only piece of really cool magic in there, though.  Maybe they'll get a little bolder in the inevitable sequel (Sorcerer's Apprentice II: Return of the Hat).


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Soulflame on August 12, 2010, 08:09:45 AM
This movie veered wildly between boring tripe I wish I could have fast forwarded through (pretty much any scene that involved the wildly unbelievable and shitty romance sub-plot) to mostly tolerable.  Although the end blew any goodwill I might have harbored towards the movie, what with
Rental.


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: stray on January 20, 2011, 07:06:13 AM
I'm sorry, but I thought this movie was awesome.  :why_so_serious: I like more serious fantasy stories, but this is Disney.. I don't expect Tale of the Malazan or some shit.

edit: Also, this coupled with Season of the Witch kind of surprises me how well Nic Cage has found a niche in fantasy. It suits him somehow.



Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: pxib on January 20, 2011, 05:41:03 PM
edit: Also, this coupled with Season of the Witch kind of surprises me how well Nic Cage has found a niche in fantasy. It suits him somehow.
His particular diet of scenery is best consumed outside of depictions of reality.


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Oban on January 22, 2011, 07:05:52 AM
Holy crap, name one redeeming thing from this movie.  It was complete and utter shit.


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: stray on January 22, 2011, 07:24:43 AM
I'm in touch with my inner Disney child, I think.  :roll:

I don't know what to say.. I'm a sucker for light hearted fantasy stuff like this. It's fun. Maybe the best/respectable thing about it is Alfred Molina, I guess. Speaking of which, same goes for Prince of Persia.


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Slyfeind on January 24, 2011, 01:18:35 PM
Holy crap, name one redeeming thing from this movie.  It was complete and utter shit.

Flying metal eagle.

Hot English girl.

Magic the Gathering homage.

Car chase with wizards.

Silly Broom sequence underscored by Dukas' Sorcerer's Apprentice.

And the thousands -- hopefully millions -- who were excpecting something dark and angsty and gritty and complex, giving me endless evenings of delicious schadenfreude.


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Oban on January 24, 2011, 02:37:17 PM

?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1954240/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1954240/)


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Slyfeind on January 24, 2011, 04:24:50 PM
And of course by English I meant Australian, which makes her ten times as hot, but also qualifies me for severe beatings by our Australian members here.


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: LK on January 24, 2011, 09:34:05 PM
His particular diet of scenery is best consumed outside of depictions of reality.
:awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice
Post by: Slyfeind on January 25, 2011, 07:34:02 AM
That was indeed elloquently put.