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Um, here (http://www.frozensynapse.com/).

A simultaneous-turn tactical game which borrows from xcom and rainbow 6, among other things. With randomly generated maps, destructable terrain, varying squad loadouts and versus mode.

Some videos here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lQQt4qc79Q) (as well as on their site).

I'm not sure yet, but this looks like a lot of fun.

Three Moves Ahead just did a podcast about it.  It's apparently awesome and insanely hard.

http://flashofsteel.com/index.php/2010/05/05/three-moves-ahead-episode-63-frozen-synapse/

I tried this back in the early closed alpha, around Februaryish. It was a lot of fun to have LAN battles with my friends, and I'm eager to see how it turns out once it's fully released.

The big thing when I tried it was that the UI was pretty opaque, with a lot of the more important commands requiring weird keypress combinations and some menu items doing effectively nothing.

This is one game that'd probably do well to have some kind of glove interface ala Minority Report.

Just finished a whole bunch of games with a mate. This game is the knife-fight of tactical games. Each game takes mere minutes, played out in 5 second intervals yet manages to feel like a lifetime. I think i'm starting to understand how they named it so well. Very very fun.

Looking forward to seeing it when its completed!  It looks like a lot of fun.

If it doesn't have a great story, I will hate it.

Green... right?

Is there no free demo/beta for this somewhere?  $26 for a small unknown/untested indie title is kinda steep.

If you have any friends it's technically $13!

That's me out, then!

So like uhhh... any of you f13 'friends' have free invites?   :grin:

This looks like a game I'd love to love, but hate to actually play.

I'm dead serious, it looks that generic. I can't stand games that have a great mechanic but then fail to include anything else. Stuff like XCom is legendary because it was a combination of many things besides tbs, greater than the sum of its parts.

So you hate all multiplayer games (that aren't co-op going through a story)?  I think you're a bit broken dude.

An extremely uncharitable reading of my post.

Surely you dislike most multiplayer games if you "can't stand games that have a great mechanic but then fail to include anything else".  That's what multiplayer games generally are.  People playing against each other using the mechanics of the game.  I don't see the problem with my reading of your post.

Sure, the best games integrate gameplay with other qualities as you said.  That doesn't mean games without that integration can't be tons of fun as well, even if they don't crack the list of 'BEST GAMES EVER'.

Well, I don't hate multiplayer games so you'll just have to abandon your interpretation.
 

Umm you can see enemies through walls.

That art in progress indicated that the developers had never heard about colour-blindness.

It looks interesting, but so do the short bursts of other indie games I've seen.

I don't see how it could have a great story. The idea behind the mechanics is that you have to make quick decisions and not choke when things don't pan out. The games aren't meant to last more than 5 minutes from what I see and that makes sense. The situations they're depicting are short and come down to the small decisions.


Yeah, I think it would be more interesting if it used line of sight.

You can only shoot through windows. I fail to see the problem. As long as every side has the same advantages, it shouldn't pose that much of a difference.

Tactically it would make a bit of a difference knowing if enemies are around the next corner or through a wall that you could rocket launch/nade? Depends on how destructible the terrain is.

If anyone orders this, I'll take the free key. Will whore for tactics.

you can see all characters at the start of the game. In multi Matches if you don't have line of sight you only see last known position. Like schild said you can see past windows and half height walls. The short matches are something I really like, the game is simple enough but very deep.

I see, I wasn't getting any of that from the video in the op and it sounds like I must try this. For years I've been secretly plotting to make a multiplayer x-com variant, I knew someone would get in there before me.

Depends on if you're playing Light or Dark extermination. Sometimes knowing where someone is can cause you to be premature in your assumption of what they will do. Climbjtree and myself are playing a match now, so far we've both made assumptions on where we might go and it didn't pan out for either of us. I'll post the youtube link once we finish.

Well, at least half of that is because I've got nothing but grenadiers and didn't realize that you give them a fire command each turn. Silly me, they're like rocketeers I guess.

Yeah, the rocket and grenadiers seem like a good idea,  but once you get to playing with them you realize they serve a very specific purpose and using them otherwise can lead to a quick loss.

To be honest nix I haven't played with different modes, Meg and I are having commitment isses between sc2, synapse and Dota. What other modes can you suggest? Is there a mode where you can choose your team or start placement?

Behold my domination of NiX (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT-W1vE9320):

Ow that's some hardcore shotgunning. The YouTube embedding is a great feature

To be fair! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCrpE23uLow)

Rise from your grave.

The game's now out, and apparently that British guy really, really, really likes it:

http://youtu.be/9jJrUY27O0Y

It's also on sale this weekend on Steam.

TB's unbridled enthusiasm has me wanting to buy this.  I have a feeling its one of those games i'd play a TON for like 2 days and put down though.

Okay, the British guy completely sold me on it (jump to 6:00 in the youtube video if you want to start with seeing how gameplay works), and I bought a copy on Steam.  Off to check it out and see how much of the long weekend it consumes...

"It's a cyberpunk full spectrum warrior turn based simultaneous xcom laser squad play by email neuromancer game." - that British guy

Yeah, that video just totally sold me.

ALSO, a purchase comes with 2 copies - one for you, and one for a friend. Seems incredibly interesting, and it's always nice to reward developers for doing something different.

Looks very interesting but the price is all wrong unless you can find someone to split it with.   

Also...shit is hard.  :oh_i_see:


It really needs a way to move and shoot at the same time. It also seems to reward turtling.

How's the story mode? If I'm going to buy this, it'll be because of the cyberpunk storyline.

Not sure about the storyline, as I haven't played more than a couple of missions of the single-player campaign. I play this for the multiplayer, though. Fourteen hours played in two days, and counting.

I'd be happy to take someone's extra copy off their hands for the low price of "I'm a whore."

Winning gifter has been alerted via Steam. Three of you had sent messages though, so you're pretty much all awesome.

What, really?

If one of you doesn't have any friends who like that sort of game, I will be your friend/teammate/opponent.

Is there actual coop in this?

Coop is supposed to be added next patch.

I would love to go in on this with someone if there is interest.

But seriously. Just watched the youtube. I need this. At half price... what a silly pricing system.

Is it $23 for two? I'll take one if that's the case. Gift it to "Wrekker" (there are two, I'm the one with the strange animal as an avatar) and PM me your PayPal account. Not a US resident so anything else is sorta out of the question.

Aus resident here and no paypal account, not sure how to do this... hmm... will investigate.

Also happy to go halves with someone else here.

Out of interest, how much was it last weekend?

No price drop yet, that I have seen.

It was 20 dollars launch weekend, I think the "normal" price is 25 thogh.

Was $20 on their website last I checked (on phone).

Anyone have any particular tips? The maps where I am stuck with only riflemen are driving me nuts. They seem to only be good for holding positions and engaging from range, which sucks when you need to bust in a room.

I bought this. I have one other copy. If anyone wants to buy it ($10 au/us) let me know. Would prefer to do it with someone else in Australia for ease of the whole thing. Send me a pm and we can work it out.

Fun so far, looking forward to playing a bit more tonight.

Is this singleplayer or multi? Toss up one of the easy youtube links to the maps in question.

SP, mostly. I am generally working my way through, but it's not always pretty and may take 2 attempts.

It's fun, but it is pretty bare bones. Would be pretty darn fun if they expand this next time and put in a more detailed story mode with mission choices, upgradable units, etc.

I've actually been playing the story mostly as I feel a bit too simple to tackle the multiplayer much yet (though I did play one game, and win!). Looking through my unlocked maps thing I noticed I have two (Nashar: Extraction and Power Plant: Assassination) that I haven't finished. I didn't get a score on.

The random level seeds can mean sometimes it is really easy and sometimes a bit harder, due to where your units get landed. I tried to get the youtube thing to work so I could give an example, but it failed to convert the video file.

Xuri is up to 50 hours played now, btw.  :awesome_for_real:

You have no proof...oh, wait... damn you, Steam! :awesome_for_real:

BTW, if folks on here ever want to hit me up for Good Fights, you know where to look on Steam... :oh_i_see:

Half off on sale this weekend.  Tempting.

Don't think, just buy.

The American way.

Change of plans, I downloaded the demo, enjoying it as we speak.  Then I'm going to buy with a friend going in on it with me.  Everyone wins!

Do you still get two?

I've had this and put it down for awhile, but it's still good, so...people can hit me up if looking for crazy multi play.

Yes.  Honestly, that's the only thing that gave me pause when buying this game.  It seems like a cheesy way to charge for two copies, so at 50% off it seems like a fair price rather than a great deal to me.

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I bought this during the summer sale and just finished the single player campaign.  Was fun.  Fuuuuck that last level.