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Trailer (http://movies.ign.com/dor/objects/429477/predator-3/videos/predators_trl1_031810.html?show=hi)

hmmm... cast looks appealing, and Robert Rodriguez. Adrien Brody makes me wonder though.

That preview looks pretty badass actually and it's got some good actors in it. I wonder if Adrien Brody's line was metaphorical or not? "This planet is a game preserve and we are the game." It'd be kind of neat if it turns out they're on an Earth-like planet that humans are bred on so Predators can go on safari.

Close.  The premise is that potential prey species are abducted and dumped on a "training" world so the Predators can refine their skills against them.

That's cool and all, but I wish they hadn't spoiled it in the trailer.

Looks badass though. 'Bout time.

Topher Grace playing "a disgraced physician and a serial killer formerly on the FBI's most wanted list"?. How the hell did he get a part in this. Unless he dies in the first 10 minutes I think I'll pass.

Ahhhh, a reboot.

About time.

Looks good.

Not a complete reboot.  It's supposed to take place right after the first movie.

Am I the only one who thinks Rodriguez is making a hell of a bold claim with that title? I mean the clear implication is that this would be to the original Predator as Aliens was to the original Alien. That is to say, totally fucking awesome and quite possibly superior to an original that was already awesome in its own right. That's ballsy, and Rodriguez is savvy enough to know exactly what he's saying with that title.

You're not the only one, WUA.  That's the exact inference I made with the title and thought it was beyond ballsy and into foolishness.  I don't expect this to turn out as anything more than typical current Hollywood action shlock.  Vibrant, loud, fluffy and ultimately forgettable.

No I get that.  I mean wiping the stain of the AVP off.

Gripping hand;  what if it works ?

Premise wise he's on the right track of going more balls out actiony. I'll guess it's going to come down to how well the characters react to one and another and whether they can get any other storylines in there without using a giant crowbar. Newt and the underlying Company stuff in Aliens worked and stopped it being just a mindless (albeit awesome) action film, I'm not sure if there's room for anything like that with this beyond some sort of love interest thing between two of them? Which is going to be fucking hard to not have scream "We didn't just want to blow stuff up!"

Of course it might just be 90 minutes of people getting killed by Predators in awesome ways, which I would be ok with.

There's wasn't much more to the original than that, IMO - Arnold's character really didn't have a lot of depth to him, nor did any of the others. It was just so new and fresh at the time that we all loved it (and still do). Remember, Rodriguez is only producing, not directing, so it's not a sure thing that it'll be good. But they've already gone the proper direction by 1) taking it off Earth, 2) casting good actors in the roles, 3) ignoring the AVP atrocities. That bit at the end where Brody has one of the Predator triangle laser lights on him and then a billion others start dotting his body awesome. I'm definitely psyched about this.

As a point of clarification, Rodriguez did not direct the flick. A gentleman by the name of Nimrord Antal (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0030735/) did.

I always waffle on Rodriguez. He can do great stuff and also awful. The only thing I've seen of Antal's is Vacancy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0452702/), which was ... less than good. I'm hoping this is better. Good cast at least.

Antal's a pretty famous director in Hungary (lol). I think his best work to date is Kontroll (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373981/) (warning -- the movie may contain extreme amounts of beret)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBv4AsGVDxw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBv4AsGVDxw)

Arnold loves the new trailer and approves of it :grin:.

The current AvP movies need to be wiped from existence so someone can make a decent film about it based on the games and books/magazines instead of the current pile of vomit.

Predator is one of my favourite movies shame Predator 2 had Danny Glover single handedly defeat a Predator which was a bit unreleastic.

Predator 2 wasn't on the same level as Predator or Aliens, but it wasn't bad and didn't embarass the series. If the AvP movies had been as good, I would have been pleasantly surprised.

This looks like ass. Fishburne looks like he'd rather eat the predator than shoot him, and none of the humans knows how to handle a rifle. I loved the chick pulling the scope back until it was wedged in her eye socked. This movie will have to work pretty hard to get above AvP2, and there's no way it's going to be better than AvP. These franchises need to find a new home where someone will use the right setting for them. I realize forrests and suburban neighborhoods are cheap sets, but that's not really the place to get the most out of either aliens or predator.

I found the following tidbet of information on AvP2 to be surprising:

Work hard to better AvP/AvP2? I think you and I have differing opinions on hard work. Watching Adrien Brody slam his own dick in a refrigerator door to prevent Laurence Fishburne getting at the snacks would be scintilating in comparison. AvP ranks among the worst things I have ever seen commited to film and you would literally have to nail me down to force me to watch AvP2. Predators may at least have an idea what it's IP is about.

AvP not ALLL that bad.

AvP2 - Well, I'd say it was atrocious, except it was shot by the same guy that did the lighting for Doom 3, so I didn't see all that much of it.

(But seriously, it was total ass and made a fucking mockery of the Aliens AND the Predators by squeezing them into different shapes for the sake of the film.  Which you then couldn't see, it was so dark.)

AvP was hilarious if not for the fact that they killed off about 80% of the cast in the first 10 minutes of the movie.

It wasn't great, but it doled up predator badassery which is always welcome.

I watched The Asylum's mockbuster riff on AvP:R last night, AVH: Alien vs Hunter (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1094162/). Currently at a smokin' 1.6/10 and near the bottom 10 of the IMDB bottom 100 - At the very least, you could see what was going on. Which puts it mildly ahead of the AvP franchise, to be honest.

I don't see how introducing multiple Predators will help, unless they are ignoring Predator 2 as well. Solo predator gets defeated by prey, the prey is recognized as a predator and the other predators leave him the fuck alone.

I heard a BBC interview with Ridley Scott a few months back (might have been Mayo) and he was politely disparaging of AvP, but confrmed there was an Alien prequel coming.  They had to "remove" the AvP timeline from the "franchise".  Or something to that effect.

I went to this today and I enjoyed it a lot.  No more of this Alien vs. Predator crap.  Reminds me more of the 1st predator film, which is a good thing imo.  Great cast, gorey violence (one dude had his whole spinal cord ripped out, head and all, while he was still alive) and lots of action.  Adrien Brody also surprised me on how well he handled the action sequences, though sometimes I couldn't get past how huge his nose looked in some shots.  Great movie.

Great movie to watch in a crowd. Everyone there was into it. Thankfully, this one had a tone similar to the original, right down to the score. Good times.

Good first half, rather limp second half.  Second half being after Morpheus turns up.

If you liked Predator, you'll love this remake.

Not a bad movie, not brilliant but not bad. Worth seeing at any rate. Our cinema's sound was off and every now and then the combat noises would go to silence before starting again on the next gun shot.

Only 2 minor problems
It was no Aliens, but it was much much better than any of the AvP movies.

Seriously, don't start, it's not worth it.  There were SOooooooo Many plot holes we could fill up 12 pages.

Me, I just switched my brain off.

 :awesome_for_real:

http://twitter.com/BrookeAlley/status/18218280719

That's actually really cool.

Saw this last night, really enjoyed it.  It certainly could have been better, and had some plot holes, but overall a good addition to the predators franchise (and it can pretend the AvP stuff never happened).  Some of the fights could have been better (I thought the final fight between the two predators could have been awesome, with them using all their super tricks against each other, but instead they just bull charged each other and beat each other like cavemen), but overall the hunted aspect of the first one was there, and it was fun.

I kind of got the impression from the editing though that there are probably a lot of deleted scenes to this, and more than one ending shot..

Yeah, the trailer suggested as much.  Wasn't there something in the trailer where he had red dots ALL OVER HIM ?

No such scene in the movie I watched....

Ah, yeah, good point.  I'd forgotten about that.

Yeah, I was queued up for a few squads of Predators to show up during that scene but it still had a good payoff.

When I look back at it, I think the only thing overall that would have made this movie better is if they had the prey fighting back more.  After Arnies team in the first one lost a few men, they actually setup an ambush and fought back a bit.  These guys are all suppose to be top killers in the world, so it would have been cool for them to have successfully fought against the predators more (since they obviously want some sort of challenge).  As it was, they mainly just ran away and died throughout it.  But still, it was handled fairly well, and still a fun movie.

I had to lol at what dicks the predators are though.  It must have taken that special forces guy days and days, and tons of effort to build all those traps he made.  I imagine the predators sitting there for days watching him, letting him toil away for days.  Then, once he finally finish's and hunkers down on the high ground, casually plunk him in the chest from a distance.

That scene was really silly.

How many drop stakes did he MAKE and WHY didn't he run out of fucking trees ???

I also don't really understand how they knew the traps were there.  Arnie used the same old fashioned organic approach and it worked just fine.  I honestly would have expected that lot to have bagged at least ONE.

Well it depends but due to their thermo vision which they showed letting them follow heat tracks its likely they were seeing his ambient body heat on the traps as they were being built.

Saw this tonight, I enjoyed it immensely. It is definitely a worthy sequel and a decent stand-alone action movie to boot.

Easily the second best Predator-based movie. Ok, that's no great shakes, but it adds more to what Predator did in 1987 than the frankly bizarre (but enjoyable) Predator 2 and the excrable AvP franchise. It's a proper sequel done in a simple, low-key fashion - the formulae is not fucked with and neither is the time line. It could have been set a year after Dutch's first encounter... Everything else is balls-deep silly, which frankly is really what I was after anyway.

To be honest, I was expecting more Predators that we got, but the ones that were there did their job A-ok. Big, menacing, ugly, fuck-hard. Talking of big, menacing, and fuck-hard - Adrien Brody as a leading action hero? That took a while to get used to. I mean, clearly the guy bulked up for the role, and he's looking a hell of a lot healthier in it than any number of flicks he's been in for the last decade, but still. I still found myself rooting for him because he's still weedy nerdy Adrien Brody in my mind, not because he was omg mercenary tough guy.

Best thing about this movie by far is Fat Larry's cameo. I started a three row deep simultaneous giggle-fit in the cinema when he showed up. I mean, seriously. Survived for ten seasons? Either there's a magic Cake Tree in that forest or he ate the rest of his crew before the Predators even got a look-in.

I nearly fell asleep watching this so....I think people were just happy that the acting wasn't god awful. Again why are humans interesting? They don't pose a threat to the predators, do we really need another "your guns suck har har" movie? Seriously a fucking minigun can't snag a few predators that are lurking 10 feet away in front of the minigun? I am to believe that it takes 5 minutes worth of ammo to take out 1 dog charging at them in a straight line? SERIOUSLY. The bigger predator hunts little predator was only introduced to extend the movie for an extra 10 minutes. If it had skipped that whole sequence we wouldn't have missed a thing (in fact it would probably make more sense). To use spill ratings if you just have to see this rent it, other wise some old bullshit.

Did anyone else notice that Brody borrowed Christian Bale's Batman voice?

Good flick, great cast, 4/5 stars. 

Close, but nowhere nearly as annoying. Could be that Brody has a lot more going on with his face and eyes when he acts, whereas Bale just tries to murder scenery.

Having said that, this movie was a LOT better then i was expecting. Good pacing, good length, some excellent casting (holy shit, a Russian that speaks actual Russian and does looks like he could be in the Sptsnaz?!) - definitely one of the best action flicks i've seen for a while.

I need to watch this one and the first one side-by-side, but i have a sneaking suspicion that the reason it (Predators) sucked so little was because they actually stuck pretty close to the pacing of the original.

You did not see AvP?

I rather have AvP done well (never going to happen) than a predator one regurgitation. Yeah I know AvP2 was my eyes having an abortion.

The actor who played the Russian is Oleg Taktarov, the former early UFC/MMA fighter.  I was waiting for him to start munching on a Sandvitch, though...


The big thing for me is they used so many of the originals themes, music, and sound cues.  Including ending it with "Long Tall Sally".  The score and audio for the first Predator movie is still top notch.

Seriously, chaps, my use of the word 'remake' was carefully considered.

 :heart:

Really enjoyed this. and in the DvD commentary, they said that they used only influences from he first move, as if the second never happened. I think that was the right choice.

I finally saw this on demand and I thoroughly enjoyed it. As many of you have said, it's the best Predator since the original. And in this case, I actually caught myself hoping for a sequel.

I thought it was poorly written. Not very fun and too predictable.

I just watched this, i thought it was pretty good but the recreation of the Billy scene bugged the hell out of me.  There was no reason for the Yakuza guy to sacrifice himself for the others, none whatsoever, besides happening to be the quiet mysterious guy this time around.

I'm not sure you could call either incidents sacrifice.

As far as I can tell, both men reached the end of their tether in being played with and desired to match themselves against the Hunter.

It was a simple, silly movie. One that required a turning-off of the brain. I still enjoyed it for what it was, though.

Fact: Previously we got Aliens vs Predator movies. Comparatively speaking, this was a goddamn masterpiece. And predators are awesome.

Finally watched this tonight. I bought it with the $10 Blockbuster gift card I got for Xmas and it was well worth it. Definitely the best since the first, and pretty damn close to the same quality. Yes, there were plot holes but the movie was good enough I just went with it. Hated that the Yakuza guy died the way he did - it did seem a bit forced. It seemed to happen for no other reason than to have a really good sword fight set piece. But it was well done so I went with it. Brody did quite well as an action hero and the doctor part made me want to see Topher Grace in more roles. That almost made up for AvP 1 & 2.

Oh sweet fucking Jesus how I loathe that phrase.

I enjoyed the movie for what it was.  Though I kept seeing the cast as Team Fortress characters (I was just waiting for the convict to confess he was on death row for arson)

Yeah I hate that expression too. My brain doesn't turn off unless I'm asleep.

It's also something that can justify anything.

Pretty much how I feel about it.  "Just turn off your brain" could be as equally applied to Epic Movie as it is to Predators.  I think the last time I ranted about the phrase, it was being applied to the shittastic movie Eagle Eye.  I can forgive "hey, I just like to see Predators kill people", or even "it's a guilty pleasure".  At least those are variations of saying that it's just a personal preference, and in regards to Predators, I can agree with them both and enjoy the movie on that level.  When people talk about turning off your brain to enjoy a movie though, there's always the connotation that if I don't enjoy it, it's my own fault for not being able to forgive all the stupid shit in it.

I don't really give a flying sideways fuck about how butthurt you get from a simple turn of phrase. If you need a more specific description of how people may choose to view a movie non-critically and ignore aspects ranging from silly to abject cartoonish stupidity that's your own fucking problem. Now go fuck yourself to sleep.
 :grin:

Finally got around to seeing this. Now I am sorry I bothered. God it was terrible.