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Third episode just aired. Anybody else watching it? It's interesting so far and they're already in full gear for making you hate the father. Waiting to see where this goes before I decide I really like it.

Just watched the third episode myself. I find parts of it interesting as well, mainly the Adamas.

This show is terrible!  What am I not getting?   :ye_gods:

I'm bored to tears. I mean, the Cylon stuff is interesting from a sci-fi geek perspective, but Ron Moore and co. built their Galactica on soap opera drama. And that stuff's just a little too shallow for my tastes. But there's a whole industry built on this stuff, so maybe it's not 'for me'.

I refuse to watch this after the BSG finale. Fuck Ron Moore in his tiny earhole.

Space drama needs moar space.

I'm really enjoying it so far. Compared to other new sci-fi shows like Stargate Universe it's a masterpiece of storytelling.

I usually hate prequels as being little more than a lack of creativity crashing against the kneejerk business need to extend a franchise that doesn't have a future in its original timeline.

This one isn't bad either, but they don't have a story with a built in end like the source material did. So it could easily devolve into extend-for-extensions-sake endless drama. The pacing of the first three episodes so far seems to be leaning that way. First season BS:G would had this shit already wrapped up and Skinjobs running around Caprica already.

It should be more mass marketable because it's basically Earth in probably about 8-10 years. But it'd need to jump off the Syfy network to capture more than the BS:G folks. And I'm not sure that group is going to stick around. The whole premise is just different.

I like it, although I'm far more interested in what happens to the robot than any of the other characters (including the girl when she leaves the cylon and goes into virtual space).

I assume it will end one day with an army of cylon servants rebelling against their masters and declaring war, leading into the backstory to Battlestar Galactica?

I am hoping for something a bit more subtle than a story about a human who knows cylons are sentient but pretends otherwise in order to make lots of money selling them, but I fear that may be what we get. It will be interesting though if they give us people grappling with the question of whether to treat the cylons as living things or not, who are shown as actually thinking about the issue (and maybe making the wrong choice) rather than simply being evil.

Apart from creating the concept, he's not at the helm of this (yet of what's aired). Someone called Jane Espenson is. Moore and Eick did apparently throw that dude/girl out tho somewhen mid-season and took over.

Also, I'm interested if they're going to keep this robot bullshit up, or if they're making the CGI an exception and have the actress stand-in practically 99% of the time, because everyone close to her sees her and not the 2 ton bigass robot.

Jane Espenson did alot of work on Buffy and some on Angel and Firefly if memory serves. Cue Schild's rant in 3..2...

I have been enjoying this quite a bit, but as a tip, try to watch the uncensored version if you can.

donde esta el uncensored version?

This show has absolutely ZERO appeal on its own. That is a huge writing/directorial mistake. It is interesting in a BSG lore sense, but it has to be able to stand on its own to be successful.

Maybe that's my problem.  I never watched BSG so I'm not into that lore or anything.  The acting isn't dreadful, in fact some of it was pretty good.  Some.  I just can't get into the story or the characters. 

Now if it were all giant robots, maybe battling rabid raccoons in Central Park during the real life Zombie Apocalypse - I'd so enjoy that!  Know what I mean?

I've just recently watched all three episodes.  I liked it quite a bit.  I expect that I'm thoroughly broken, though, so there is that.

You're not alone but then again it has tapped into one of my more recent obsessions, namely, what happens when a robot/program gets to a level where you can no longer tell it's not human.

Watched the first hour of the first episode/movie on Hulu. I don't anticipate caring about watching the second hour.

I dug the miniseries.  It started to develop a bit in ep. 3?(if miniseries is 1 and 2)  But,m after that the show hit the shitter. 

The character development really isn't there, and if I don't care about the characters what's the point.  The parental characters are flip-flopping all over the place and not in a way that expands them dimensionally, but in a Heroes way.  Ugh...

The show is just not coming together.

I'll watch the whole season, b/c I really liked BSG.  But, I do so somewhat reluctantly.

This show sucks.

Weird. People seem to be very polarized about this show. You either love it or hate it. And yet everyone seems to have liked BSG or they wouldn't have looked at Caprica in the first place.

There's no man appeal factor here.  It's just weak stereotypes, and even weaker drama.  No spaceship wars and hot chicks to give it awesome.  Zoe it hot, but she spends most of the show looking like a robot.  The robot would be cool, but it's currently just standing around in a basement (read:  not smashing things or shooting stuff) being tested.  And in the last episode I watched (or will watch for that matter) it was dancing.  And with this SyFy is completely devoid of any use what-so-ever.

There's no woman appeal, either.  I don't think any of the acting is especially great in this series but sometimes a show is just so mundane that I can't really blame the actors for not giving it their best.

What, you don't like the gay mafia planet?

The gay mafia guy is the only likable character.

I actually like most of the characters. I'm fixated on Zoey for previously stated reasons but in general I like them all. It's kind of weird to see William Adama as a young Mafia kid in the making though.

Speaking of Zoey, I wonder where they're going with the weird engineering guy and her. I keep waiting for her to reveal herself to him and him becoming another ally of hers.

I caught a repeat of Friday's episode last night and was thoroughly confused because I had no framework to put things into at first.  I figured out at least the basics of what was going on and did enjoy the show, although it looks pretty dark and dreary in a lot of ways.  I think I may have to record it going forward and see if I can find the previous episodes in order to get up to speed.

Pretty sure you can watch all the previous episodes at syfy.com.

They are all on Hulu.

I enjoy this show, best ever? No. but if you are a fan of the Battlestar world, I think you can find much in this world coming of age story.

That show doesn't know what it wants to be. Its part Science Fiction, part Sopranos, part teen drama, part soap opera.

There are always parts I like and parts I find abhorrently annoying. I could watch entire episodes of that Permadeath New Caprica MMOG, and I suspect I liked the fifth episode because there was neither Lacy or her School teacher and about 5 seconds of Graystones wife.

Graystone's wife clearly has a fake American accent.  It's annoying.  I'm sure it bothers British people when Americans run around going, "Blimey you bloody bastard." 

I'm so sorry I watched the first two episodes of this show and the completionist in me compels me to give it yet another chance.  I really wish Comcast had better stuff on demand.  I think I'm really done now.

But, the comparison to the part of this show and the Sopranos is so in name only.  They both have mafia.  That's where it ends.  For instance, the gay mafia in the Sopranos was a fat guy getting head from some dude in a pickup, who when outed was beaten to death and a pool cue was shoved up his ass.  On the other hand, this show has the lipstick gay mafia - sleek metrosexuals with shirts off, tribal tattoos, and stilettos (the knives).  It's probably an attempt to blur our sexist perceptions of stereotypes.  It's also not very good television.

I think the only thing that's currently making me wince is the whole 'Tamara Adama is the new Neo except her Matrix is red' deal.

I can't really figure out why I'm watching this show still, but I am.  I mean, when do the killer robots start killing people?

Probably the series finale.  :awesome_for_real:

Heh, yeah, that'd probably make sense.  But at least have the almost killer robots do something for chrissakes.  Zoe just stands there all episode long doing nothing.  And at this rate it's going to be another half season before they manage to create a second sentient robot.

I am highly amused by what Zoe has started with that engineer guy in the last episode...

Zoe's dumb grin is getting really annoying and I'd prefer it if they just had the robot being an intelligent robot. I'd also very much like to see a robot going on the rampage. If it's too soon in the plot for Zoe-bot to do that, maybe Daniel Graystone could make another cylon which malfunctions or something.

Seriously, I wonder if virtual Lacy Rand will become the second cylon, but will be an evil one. She's already getting a bit of a god complex. (and hopefully she'll smash some humans).

If you're looking for a simple good guy/evil robot show I suspect you're going to be disappointed.

I like the gay mobster and the whole Tauron culture.  I also like "New Cap City".  Other than that I'm not too impressed.  It's such a soap opera.  I do hope they explore other world cultures and put some excitement in it.  I see what they're doing with the Old World vs. the New, blah blah blah but it's not that compelling.

Man, I really want to like this show. I dig Moore's ethic and a lot of the cast is appealing, but the show is really terrible. I hope they fix it in the second half. There is some really cool Gibsonian goodness available here if they get their shit together.

We have the opposite problem where we simply don't find any of the characters to be likable.  The story might be OK but they started off dragging it out slowly without getting us hooked.  It's a series composed entirely of BSG filler episodes.

I didn't say I liked the characters. I like some of the cast. They have misused most of them horribly.

Season 1 part 2 is starting off better than I would have thought (or is it Season 2?). It's been at least 120 days...has everyone forgotten about the show? Am I the only one watching?

Probably.

I was in town the other day and I saw the boxed set of this. It had some topless woman on the cover hiding her breasts with her arms. Obviously trying to get sales by advertising the interesting plot and fine acting, this one.

Ahh here it is...

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I've never seen a show with such an unlikeable cast of characters.  First, I'm glad they have gone off-world and are continuing the corporate espionage angles.  I am interested in the glimpse of life in the Twelve Colonies.  But the rest of the show is pretty tough sledding so far in S2.  Everyone is a stupid asshole and I don't even remember or care why Lacey is in the STO.  Adama has turned into a mob thug and his son is nowhere to be seen.  Only the cop is semi-likable, because he's right, he knows it and he is willing to risk his career on it.  Plus, so far, he's not morally compromised, a theme I'm getting really tired of.

Said topless woman is a schoolgirl, or was before her robot incarnation. :pedobear:

Well you know what they about those Monotheist girls.

Especially before they eat an apple.

I'm liking S2 better than S1 so far. it's a bit edgier and grittier than the previous season. Seems a bit more serious. Or maybe I'm just into it because the only other shows holding my attention right now are Fringe and SG:U. (and just barely on SG:U - was all I could do to stay awake through Ep. 3).

Wait.  They gave this piece of shit a second season?

Of course. And they are making a prequel to BSG following young Adama in the Cylon War.

At least it hasn't gone full retard like BSG did.  Yet.  Or maybe it has and I haven't noticed... I tend to have it on in the background and drift in and out of what's going on.

I watch it mostly for the interesting "society" of it all. I do enjoy the Greystone/Adoma story line though.

This isn't the second season. It is the second half of the first season.

i.e. The United States of America with some names and games changed.

SyFy shit-canned the series today and won't air the remaining episodes until they burn them off sometime next year.

Good. I feel bad for fans of the show, but goddamn, killer robots in space should not be this goddamn boring.

Mrs Graystone has been Mrs Sons of Anarchy Belfast Edition for many episodes, so this has seemed dead for a while.

That.

Never seen a show with so many unlikeable characters.  Gone and unlamented.  Bring on the pew pew pew with BG: B&C.

Yeah.......I kind of had hope for the show because I was hoping for a prequel showing how the cylons got made, their build up in society, the revolution, and then into the cylon wars.  That would have been cool.  What they did with it wasn't.  I guess I can blame it on Sci Fi not having the budget to do the things I want, but still...... so much wasted potential.  Ah well, I loved BSG, so I guess we'll see how the other projects turn out.

It's really a shame how much they fumblefucked this show ... the last several episodes have been pretty good, in my opinion.

Reminds me of Star Trek: Enterprise, where it was too little too late by the time they started doing what they should have done all along.

When I tried to watch this it seemed like WB teen drama. I don't get how it was Battlestar at all. It's like Dawson's Creek, guest staring a robot.

Is this show better or worse than Star Gate Universe?

They're very different shows. I'd say most viewers have said it is worse since it is cancelled and SG:U is still going AFAIK. SG:U has more action in it and sometimes tries to have some drama and, for my tastes, has more interesting characters. (Well, ok, Eli and Rush, but still, that's two!)

Just looking for personal opinions.

I'm rewatching BSG right now.  I never watched the 2nd half of the last season so I started from the beginning and I just finished season 3.  I'm going to watch Razor next, then season 4, then the movie they made afterward.  Just wondering if Caprica is really worth watching, even if it's for "lore".

Not really. Unless you like Soap Opera. There isn't much cool tech sci-fi stuff going on. It isn't BSG related. Aside from some names.

Yeah, it's pretty wank.  You're missing nothing, and possibly becoming a little dumber by watching it.

I'd watch the pilot. It gives you some insight into possible influences on cylon thinking and where they got the "one god" thing. The series then proceeds into a soap opera involving the things set up by the pilot.

The biggest issue with this show is people wanted the creation of the Cylons and maybe foreshadowing of the eventual war. What we got was crazy religious terrorists and the mafia.

So...no one has commented yet on the series finale? I actually liked it. They were obviously prepared for another season (or at least thats the way it looked on Hulu) but I think it wrapped up the Cylon creation quite nicely. The series had it's faults and I really didn't like the start of it but it grew on me. I only had one real gripe.