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Title: Making Money
Post by: Rendakor on January 06, 2010, 11:06:50 PM
How does everyone here make gold? Dailies? Professions? Let's have some specifics! Please don't just say "I play the AH", what exactly do you buy and sell?

Personally, I sell bulk glyphs using Inscription to make my cash. With some effort, I can pull about 1-2k a day; this seems the most profitable tradeskill based on my experience. I used to make some cash with enchanting but the scrolls don't sell anymore, and fuck sitting in Org spamming LFW. Flasks sell decently well on certain days, which is decently profitable (moreso with Elixir spec); Frostweave bags and leg enchants also sell decently.

If anyone else is looking to make cash with Inscription I can go into more detail there.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: WindupAtheist on January 06, 2010, 11:15:26 PM
Dailies. Throwing cloth and enchanting mats from random heroics on the AH. I have mining and skinning at max, but can't often be bothered to actually fly around mining or whatever. Sometimes I mine thorium, which goes for exorbitant prices on the AH since no one wants to bother.

Sometimes I mass-kill trash in Scholo to farm runecloth while I wait for a heroic to pop. It goes for only 1g less per stack than frostweave on my server, and I have the quest trinket that lets me use the ghost blacksmith outside the instance to repair and sell vendor trash.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Lantyssa on January 06, 2010, 11:24:48 PM
Dallies on my 80 Druid.  Cooking, Fishing, Tournament, and random others depending on my mood.  That was with giving all my greens to an enchanter to do whatever with.

On my DK which I am now leveling, Herbalism.  I have skinning, however everything is being sent to my Druid for making into armor enhancements for the moment.  Herbs alone make a good deal of money.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on January 06, 2010, 11:32:56 PM
don't listen to them, grinding is a suckers game.

Buy low, sell high and play the AH for all its worth. If you don't have 100 auctions running at once you're doing it wrong. Now me, I dont have the patience for that but there's a druid in my guild with over 200k spread across his toons(htere actually is a gold cap)  he plays the AH like a wild man, he even has some of his alts undercut the inflated prices on his other alts to make people think they are getting a deal on things.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: apocrypha on January 07, 2010, 05:15:58 AM
I do 5 or 6 dailies a day, either Argent Tourney or Fishing/Cooking/Kaluak/Oracles, depending on my mood. Plus I mine everything I fly over and sell the metal & gems.

That plus a random heroic every day and the weekly raid every week and I have plenty of money.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Fordel on January 07, 2010, 06:14:06 AM
Dailies and Epic Gems.


Sometimes I'll do the full tourney loop of dailies, other days I'll do the WinterGrasp circuit, or the Hodir bunch. I usually mix up which area. Doing a handful of dailies is more then enough to keep myself well funded for whatever I would want.


The other place I get gold from is selling Epic Gems. You can get epic gems for 10k honor a pop from the SW/Org honor vendor, and I spend much of my playtime in WG/BGs either way. Even at their cheapest they still sell for 150'ish gold I find. Even if you do nothing else for honor but the Wintergrasp quests once a week, you'll end up with enough to buy 2-4 gems usually. The Red ones sell for the most and quickest 90% of the time, the other 10% it would be the Blue ones.


If I ever really wanted to stockpile up a big cash reserve, I would just go back to selling my potions. I collect the herbs mostly as a side effect of my normal play activities, and the one universal truth about the AH, is that potions always sell.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Selby on January 07, 2010, 06:33:30 AM
I do dailies (tournament and fishing, the cooking dailies I am done with) every day and it keeps my raid expenses in check.  I have tailoring and enchanting, but neither of those are big money makers (it's cheaper to buy the enchant off the AH than it is to make it with the materials).  When I hit 20 stacks of Illusion dust, I sell off 5-6, same with Greater Cosmic Essences and Abyss Crystals.  Those tend to sell pretty well despite not being as pricey as they once were.

My alts pretty much all farm, and sell the materials on the AH.  Some things sell well, some things just don't.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Nevermore on January 07, 2010, 06:35:09 AM
How does everyone here make gold? Dailies? Professions? Let's have some specifics! Please don't just say "I play the AH", what exactly do you buy and sell?

Personally, I sell bulk glyphs using Inscription to make my cash. With some effort, I can pull about 1-2k a day; this seems the most profitable tradeskill based on my experience. I used to make some cash with enchanting but the scrolls don't sell anymore, and fuck sitting in Org spamming LFW. Flasks sell decently well on certain days, which is decently profitable (moreso with Elixir spec); Frostweave bags and leg enchants also sell decently.

If anyone else is looking to make cash with Inscription I can go into more detail there.

It's funny you mention Inscription because it highlights how different the various servers can be.  Last night in guild chat there was a discussion going on about crafting professions and there were some complaints about how Inscription makes no money at all.  Flasks seem to be the most consistent sellers on our server.

I generally make (not much) gold just doing some tourney dailies, random dungeons and selling whatever mats I happen across: Herbs from my Druid, Ore from my Shaman or enchanting mats from my DK.  The price of enchanting mats has plunged to near vendor levels though because of the new leech-off-the-enchanter disenchanting choice.  I don't bother selling flasks because Frost Lotus is so bloody rare I'd rather make them for myself or my guild (should I ever be allowed on a real raid again  :awesome_for_real:).


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Morfiend on January 07, 2010, 08:12:09 AM
I do dailies, mostly the argent tournament, and sell low level crafting materials. Ore especially. On my server you can get 50+ gold for a stack of iron and around 30g for a stack of tin. Also Adamantite and Thorium sell very well.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Soulflame on January 07, 2010, 08:41:22 AM
AT dailies, JC, cooking, usually fishing, plus heroic daily.  Not to mention King of the Mountain, perhaps the best daily ever.  It brings me around 2k a week or so, which is plenty for my current goal:  Save up for buying stuff in Cataclysm.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: sickrubik on January 07, 2010, 09:08:10 AM
I do a little hustling on the Stormwind Docks.

Also, Dailies and Glacial Bags.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Rendakor on January 07, 2010, 09:34:51 AM
It's funny you mention Inscription because it highlights how different the various servers can be.  Last night in guild chat there was a discussion going on about crafting professions and there were some complaints about how Inscription makes no money at all.  Flasks seem to be the most consistent sellers on our server.

I generally make (not much) gold just doing some tourney dailies, random dungeons and selling whatever mats I happen across: Herbs from my Druid, Ore from my Shaman or enchanting mats from my DK.  The price of enchanting mats has plunged to near vendor levels though because of the new leech-off-the-enchanter disenchanting choice.  I don't bother selling flasks because Frost Lotus is so bloody rare I'd rather make them for myself or my guild (should I ever be allowed on a real raid again  :awesome_for_real:).
See, the thing with Inscription is that you can't just sell the top 2 most expensive glyphs and expect to make a profit, because trying to figure out exactly what glyphs will sell on any given day is an exercise in futility. Instead, you have to sell EVERY glyph, which still brings in a good amount of money because people tend to buy glyphs 3-6 at a time. The hardest part really is keeping well stocked on herbs, which requires you to farm like a chinaman, or buy from one.

People actually buy Glacial Bags? Even though I consider myself pretty wealthy in game, I'd never drop 600g for 2 extra slots.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Rasix on January 07, 2010, 09:34:53 AM
I have a transmute spec'd alch and a miner/JC.  I transmute my own prospected gems and sell them raw on the AH.  It sells very consistently and even if I have to buy the gems/eternals due to shortages, my return is still 300-500%+.   I could do inscription, especially since I have all of the recipes, but it's a complete crap shoot. Any time I've tried to sell glyphs, they just end up coming back to me.

Granted, I'm not rich, but I don't really need money.

I used to like playing auctions back in EQ, but that was easier without the middle man (AH) and you could make an absolute killing due to how easy it was to corner certain item markets.  I suppose Auctioneer would help if I wanted to do this, but I'm not going back to the one addon that seems to introduce a lot of instability into the client for me.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: proudft on January 07, 2010, 09:37:46 AM
Blackmail.   

Also, our AH is so big nothing is consistent, so I move around.  Lately it's enchanting scrolls for me.  In the past, I've done cut gems, raw gems, glyphs, disenchanting greens from the AH, and if you go way back, crafted blacksmith items. 

The most reliable money is from leveling alts through Northrend and then not buying the poor bastards a proper mount, though.  That's like 3-4k easy over two weeks of actually having fun from 70-80.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Rendakor on January 07, 2010, 09:43:52 AM
I actually stopped using Auctioneer for my Inscription because I started using Quick Auctions, and the two don't get along well. Every time I auction, QA scans the AH something like 1200 times, which very quickly makes Auctioneer's database large and laggy. However, QA alone is amazing for mass market selling.

I don't see how you guys have such little luck with glyphs...They've been consistently profitable since I started selling at the beginning of WotLK. While all of my glyphs don't sell after being listed any given time, enough of them do that I make a large profit. Last night for example I posted about 300 glyphs, woke up this morning to find about 50 of them sold and bringing in 1000g.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: proudft on January 07, 2010, 09:48:56 AM
My main problem with really going whole-hog into the glyph market is inventory space.   All them glyphs & herbs eat up a lot of room!


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Lantyssa on January 07, 2010, 09:49:48 AM
I don't see how you guys have such little luck with glyphs...They've been consistently profitable since I started selling at the beginning of WotLK. While all of my glyphs don't sell after being listed any given time, enough of them do that I make a large profit. Last night for example I posted about 300 glyphs, woke up this morning to find about 50 of them sold and bringing in 1000g.
At a guess they aren't selling at anywhere near the volume you are.  I deal in stacks of 2-5 herbs.  300 is crazy to me.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Fordel on January 07, 2010, 09:56:26 AM
People actually buy Glacial Bags? Even though I consider myself pretty wealthy in game, I'd never drop 600g for 2 extra slots.


I would! Have even!


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Nebu on January 07, 2010, 09:57:36 AM
People actually buy Glacial Bags? Even though I consider myself pretty wealthy in game, I'd never drop 600g for 2 extra slots.


I would! Have even!

I as well.  There's a point in game where money becomes essentially valueless.  I've even bought a few Haris Pilton items just for the achievement.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Fordel on January 07, 2010, 10:04:53 AM
Portable Hole imo!


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: proudft on January 07, 2010, 10:06:30 AM
Speaking of money being valueless, I finally have enough money to make a motorcycle.  I've been hemming & hawing about making one and putting it on the AH just to see what happens.  When people are buying Battered Hilts for ~15k you know there are people with more money than sense.   Worst case, I use it myself.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Nebu on January 07, 2010, 10:11:09 AM
Speaking of money being valueless, I finally have enough money to make a motorcycle.  I've been hemming & hawing about making one and putting it on the AH just to see what happens.  When people are buying Battered Hilts for ~15k you know there are people with more money than sense.   Worst case, I use it myself.

I used to buy the rare parts from the vendor everytime I was in the area.  The market for motorcycles exists, but varies widely.  In a month I sold one for 18k and couldn't sell another at 13k.  Give it a shot.  If one sells, you can use the profits to make another and drop it on the AH.  I did mine all my own ore and smelting the titansteel, so my cost was little more than time and buying the vendor parts (11 or 12k I think. )


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Sjofn on January 07, 2010, 10:56:20 AM
The problem with inscription on Doomhammer is that we have a lot of 'em on the server, and they all sell the glyphs for practically nothing (unless it's a brand new decent glyph). The effort involved to actually make money on it is ridiculous, I make more money making ink and selling that. Well, minor glyphs are pretty good too, last I checked, but I've mostly stopped bothering. I'd rather just do dailies.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: proudft on January 07, 2010, 11:09:08 AM
I did mine all my own ore and smelting the titansteel, so my cost was little more than time and buying the vendor parts (11 or 12k I think. )

Time is money, friend!   :grin:


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Sjofn on January 07, 2010, 11:10:17 AM
MAN I can't wait to be a goblin.  :grin:


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Nebu on January 07, 2010, 11:10:38 AM
Time is money, friend!   :grin:

You're right.  Titanium is like winning at the slot machine when you're flying around doing dailies.  Titansteel is just something to make once a day when I'm in Dalaran.  I feel stupid admitting how happy I get everytime I find a titanium node.  It's pathetic of me.  



Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Rendakor on January 07, 2010, 11:34:52 AM
My main problem with really going whole-hog into the glyph market is inventory space.   All them glyphs & herbs eat up a lot of room!

I've got 5 Inscription bags and 2 herbalism bags that I use to fix that; I've also got an entire guild bank tab pretty much to myself (Guild leader of really small guild ftw).


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: caladein on January 07, 2010, 11:35:14 AM
Dailies here too.  At this point, I get adequate cash flow from doing Random Heroics or Raiding so I'm only doing ones I need for rep or the easier Dalaran Cooking/Fishing ones.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Ingmar on January 07, 2010, 11:38:09 AM
Yeah you can make tons of money doing inscription, even on our server; the problem is people don't do it right then think inscription is worthless. It takes a big effort to get an inscription operation to the point where it really 'works', and I don't have the patience personally. The key to it is you have to deal in like 40 different glyphs at the same time to make money, because no single glyph has a very high sales turnover. Tons of inventory space needed, tons of time listing every single type of glyph, even with AH mods, and lots of time monitoring the AH to make sure you're keeping things listed and pricing them right.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: sickrubik on January 07, 2010, 12:20:37 PM
People actually buy Glacial Bags? Even though I consider myself pretty wealthy in game, I'd never drop 600g for 2 extra slots.

They are up less than a day (usually within hours) and sell for about 700 or so depending on the current market.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Hutch on January 07, 2010, 12:38:03 PM
On my main, I do dailies (fishing, cooking, tournament, random dungeon, WG). Also, I have mining and engineering, so in the course of doing the dailies, I'll be gathering up crystals of shadow and earth and etc. I have an alchemy alt that I use to tranform the shadow and water Primals that I complete into Life and Fire, respectively, which sell for much higher prices on the AH. 1 transmute per day, of course.

On the alt that I am currently running through Triumph town, I do as many random dungeons as I can fit in, for badges. While waiting for my dungeons to pop, I fly around Northrend, gathering herbs. Said herbs get sold on the AH. Herbing also yields Primal Life.

Random dungeons themselves are net money makers, assuming you don't die so much that your repairs cancel out your gains.
There's the quest reward, there's the cash you get from looting and vendoring, and then there's the option of selling whatever items drop, and/or de'ing them for mats. And you can then opt to sell the mats, of course.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Ingmar on January 07, 2010, 12:42:50 PM
Also raids are also pretty good money themselves assuming you don't die.

I should figure out if the net badges/money/shards are worth the time of running quick Naxx 10 runs.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Fordel on January 07, 2010, 01:47:03 PM
Also raids are also pretty good money themselves assuming you don't die.

I should figure out if the net badges/money/shards are worth the time of running quick Naxx 10 runs.


This is why you are always broke, you think raids are good money.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Ingmar on January 07, 2010, 01:59:02 PM
Also raids are also pretty good money themselves assuming you don't die.

I should figure out if the net badges/money/shards are worth the time of running quick Naxx 10 runs.


This is why you are always broke, you think raids are good money.

My recollection is that I would walk out of a Naxx run usually a couple hundred gold richer than I went into it all told. Add badges to that and if you can get it done in a couple hours seems like its probably a good deal.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Fordel on January 07, 2010, 02:13:29 PM
You recollection is terrible.


Do your dailies like everyone else and maybe you won't have to scrounge cash off of alts every time you need new enchants!


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: K9 on January 07, 2010, 02:17:28 PM
My recollection is that I would walk out of a Naxx run usually a couple hundred gold richer than I went into it all told. Add badges to that and if you can get it done in a couple hours seems like its probably a good deal.

Seconding this, but this is more compensation than a genuine income.

I have a modest yet steady income from glyphs and enchanting scrolls. I do have very definite ups and downs in motivation to make gold though. I'm not into big expenditures. While running two raiding toons adds up in consumables, gems and repairs, I don't buy masses else. So long as I'm above 3K gold on my main and 1K on my alt I'm comfortable. Other than for the sake of having loads of gold I don't have any great need to spend ages trying to make money. As I say though, it comes and goes. The only excess expenditure I ever make is levelling professions, but that's all done now.

Enchanting scrolls astonished me with how well they sell, and having an alt to make vellum is handy. Glyph income is steadier, but comes in smaller chunks.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: caladein on January 07, 2010, 02:23:17 PM
Raids were definitely good money if you weren't wiping, especially Naxx/Ulduar.  ToC isn't bad if you can blow through it.

Dailies and Random Heroics are more consistent and less retard-prone though.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: WindupAtheist on January 07, 2010, 02:25:49 PM
I usually do pretty good on cash. I handed my buddy 3k out of the blue a couple weeks ago and told him to finally go buy his epic flyer. I've passed out another 200 each to a couple other lowbie friends since then. I've still been able to keep up with buying top-notch gems and enchants for my new gear.

That Scholo vendor trash adds up when you can plow through like it was Deadmines, then run and sell to the ghost vendor right in front of the place. Do that while you wait for heroics to pop, mix in some dailies, and AH anything you come across that will sell. Oh and don't forget to loot the dead enemy players in Wintergrasp, at somewhere around a gold each it adds up too.

Oh, just want to second the thing about auctioning gems bought with honor. I turn all my stonekeeper shards into honor tokens, honor into gems, gems into AH cash.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Rendakor on January 07, 2010, 02:27:45 PM
Enchanting scrolls don't sell too well on my server; they used to, but since the flood of chanting mats everyone is just getting things made themselves rather than buying scrolls.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Ingmar on January 07, 2010, 02:44:53 PM
You recollection is terrible.


Do your dailies like everyone else and maybe you won't have to scrounge cash off of alts every time you need new enchants!

Upgrade your gear more than once an expansion and maybe you'll see my issues.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Fordel on January 07, 2010, 02:58:23 PM
You mean like TBC where you were still broke and I wasn't?  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Signe on January 08, 2010, 08:35:31 AM
Get a room!


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Rasix on January 08, 2010, 08:54:12 AM
Get a room!

:heart:


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Khaldun on January 11, 2010, 08:39:35 AM
If you keep honor points coming in, selling gems on the AH is a good steady stream of cash. If you're geared with all the Triumph shit you need, orbs for the moment are also selling at reasonable prices, just keep accumulating as much Triumph badgery as you can.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: Evildrider on January 11, 2010, 08:50:10 AM
If you keep honor points coming in, selling gems on the AH is a good steady stream of cash. If you're geared with all the Triumph shit you need, orbs for the moment are also selling at reasonable prices, just keep accumulating as much Triumph badgery as you can.

You can also trade down triumphs to heroism and buy gems. 


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: john4 on January 12, 2010, 05:51:50 PM
If you keep honor points coming in, selling gems on the AH is a good steady stream of cash. If you're geared with all the Triumph shit you need, orbs for the moment are also selling at reasonable prices, just keep accumulating as much Triumph badgery as you can.

You can also trade down triumphs to heroism and buy gems. 

Building on that- consider alchemy, its a secret goldmine.

Transmute: Majestic Zircon costs (on my server) 30 gold and yields an epic gem worth 200 gold.  I have two transmute-mastery characters so pump out between 2 to (theoretically, due to transmute mastery) 10 gems a day, though I would say it averages out to around 3 gems. 

That nets a 240-ish gold profit per day for doing absolutely nothing.  Sure beats out those time consuming dailies.


Title: Re: Making Money
Post by: SurfD on January 13, 2010, 04:38:17 AM
i like alchemy as well, mainly because i have found a few pots that i can sell for nearly 50% profit even after buying all the mats to make them from the ah.

Another trick i have discovered (if you are a stealth capable herbalist) is to get yourself saved to a 10 or 25 man Ulduar that has cleared up to, but not actually cleared, freya (bonus if you can kill the 3 keepers but not the boss).

I can stealth around freya's room as a druid and herbalise 90% of the nodes in around 10 minutes tops.  This usually almost ALWAYS guarantees me about 3-5 frost lotus and 4-5 stacks of assorted herbs.

And since everything in there respawns after the instance soft resets, you can go back in 30 minutes and do it all over again.   Extend your raid lockout indefinately and it is literally your own personal gold mine (provided you never want to run that version of ulduar again on that character of course :P)