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Have you ever dreampt of this man (http://www.thisman.org/)?

(http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/82194/thisman.jpg)

No, but I likely will tonight, godammit. 

This belongs in the abduction thread. 

It's either bullshit or they're trying to sell something.  :why_so_serious:

Actually, the Archetype theory makes about the most sense if people's testimonies are real. 

Neil Diamond?

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_A0WHyVYCx70/SfHY-jZ-O8I/AAAAAAAAEL0/KWGviZUYhKQ/s400/tomb_neil_diamond_comp.jpg)

Yeah, I know that fucker.  Sherm Goldman, runs a deli on the north side.  Always has that fucking smirk and gives unsolicited advice.  Real asshole.  I'm hoping my alien-thought-helmet comes in the mail soon.





Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V784AiYtG8

Well, the wierd part is that my SO did dream about him before she discovered that site. He was the main person in the dream, and had long coversations with her about her life. She rarely dreams, so she told me all about it. Then last night she ran into this website and well, just about hit the roof.

I that a young Paul Simon?

He used to live across the street from me!   :ye_gods:

Apparently this guy is going around seducing men.

I dream of this guy.

(http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/44560/gman.jpg)

Obviously I need to make this my FaceBook profile picture and start giving people advice.

Whois:
Registrant Contact Information:
    Name: Andrea Natella
    Organization: Andrea Natella
    Address 1: Via dell'orso 43
    City: ROMA
    State: RM
    Zip: 00186
    Country: IT
    Phone: +39.0668891709
    Email: Email Masking Image@guerrigliamarketing.it

Administrative Contact Information:
    Name: Andrea Natella
    Organization: Andrea Natella
    Address 1: Via dell'orso 43
    City: ROMA
    State: RM
    Zip: 00186
    Country: IT
    Phone: +39.0668891709
    Email: Email Masking Image@guerrigliamarketing.it

Technical Contact Information:
    Name: Servizio Registrazione Domini Internazionali
    Organization: COLT Engine S.r.l.
    Address 1: Via San Pancrazio 14
    City: Pianezza
    State: Torino
    Zip: 10044
    Country: IT
    Phone: +39.0112340031
    Fax: +39.01182931192
    Email: Email Masking Image@dnshosting.it

Translation of guerrigliamarketing.it:

1. Guerrilla Marketing is a set of non-conventional communication techniques that achieves maximum visibility with minimum investment
2. Guerrilla Marketing strategies to develop the market through the staging of pseudo-events designed to integrate company's image
3. Guerrilla Marketing exploits the need for new Media and the permeability of its mechanisms to promote ideas, brands or products
4. Guerrilla Marketing Program and inoculated in the media system memetic virus can replicate itself in the minds of consumers
5. Guerrilla Marketing is a process of dissipation of the trust that still puts the consumer in the economy as a whole for the benefit of the success of an individual company: your

Isn't there a new Nightmare on Elm St or something?

Yeah, Michael Bay is directing I think.

Well played, sir.

The Dreams link on the sidebar is  :awesome_for_real:

No, just producing.

The director, Samuel Bayer, (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1207904/) is new, with the usual background of music videos. Freddy is played b y Jackie Earle Haley (who played Rorschach in the Watchmen movie). The early stuff from it sounds positive, but who knows.

On the subject of THIS MAN, I still have no clue what the hell is going on with it. Checked with the Unfiction group and they haven't sussed out anything more on it yet.

Holy crap, he looks almost exactly like the guy I see in my dreams every night:

(http://www.clisham.com-a.googlepages.com/Mini-Posters-Mickey-Mouse---blueflys.jpg)

You people are weird, I dream about stuff like this:
(http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/41488/zarah%20pacheco.jpg)



And yes, I'm betting this is for the new Elm Street Movie.

I agree.  Only different.

(http://morganelvington.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/paul-walker.jpg)

Don't always know who's living across the street until it's too late sometimes, though.

I need better dreams.

I dream of Jeanie.

You gotta admit, tho, that if this is 'guerilla marketing', its pretty amazing. Imagine being able to subliminally insert a character into someone's dreams. The question is how did it happen? Flash movies with an embedded image for a fraction of a second? Websites with a quick flash of the image as the next page loads?

I dream of the sea.

I have this reoccurring dream of a unicorn...

Damn you all, I see creepy guys like him 2-3 times per train ride now. They all look alike.

The flyer with that guy on it is everywhere I go.

How many times have you been on a train since Engels posted that yesterday?   :ye_gods:

You're all missing the obvious:

(http://www.thisman.org/portraits/italy.jpg)

is actually an artist rendering of Coach McGuirk. The whole thing is probably for Cartoon Network starting eppisodes back up at 2:30 am again.

Yes, except he has different hair.

(http://laurenmechling.com/theblog/Bert-and-Ernie.gif)

He hasn't left the train, every time it stops he sees this man.

I was thinking more...

(http://www.greatdreams.com/myth/grover.jpg)

I saw a terrible commercial for the movie "Alien Abduction" one of the flickery bits seemed to be the lower half of this drawing.

Hehe.  Ok, I saw that guy 2-3 times on one train ride.  It was funnier with multiple train rides. :oh_i_see:

You mean that new abduction flick with Milla Jovovich? If so, that would be "The Fourth Kind". That would be interesting if so, then.

That was it, couldn't remember the actual name, 'Alien Abduction' was the only text I remembered.

It didn't look like a good film.

This kind of viral marketing fills me with rage. It's probably all the people who think it's real and will stand by their beliefs probably even after whoever is putting this on announces it was all bullshit.

Are you calling Engels and craan a couple of filthy liars?

I think that if they aren't joking, they have given some random person they saw undue significance because he happened to look like a crude drawing they saw later.

I think you missed the point. GF -dreamed- of this guy, then later saw the picture. If its marketing, its subliminal suggestion, and that's sorta awsome. The marketing campaign got someone to -dream- of some random face.

Or she dreamed of some guy whose face she wouldn't have been able to remember or describe if pressed, saw the picture along with the suggestion that he shows up in people's dreams, and then filled in her dream memory with that picture.

Actually, she described him (before seeing the picture) as a short, round faced latino looking guy with large soulfoul eyes and a comb-over. She described him well enough that when she said,"Hey, come look at this picture", even I  knew who she thought it was before she said anything. But hey, I may be a filthy liar!

Yes, with such an exacting description it's miraculous that the picture captures it so much. Surely there are no other pictures of men who might fit such a description.

I think he looks Italian or Jewish or, perhaps Germanic!  freaky!

People, you do realize that significant portions of your memory is completely fabricated by your brain, right?

I'm mostly curious what that sight is all about now. I doubt if it's "Real" but I am defintely curious to know.

I believe you ARE a filthy liar, but I believe mostly everything you say.  Maybe you're a conundrum. 

I thought about that, but the thing is, she came across the website only 5 days after the dream, not months down the line. This makes me believe in the clarity of her recollection and, more importantly, that it was a targeted subliminal suggestion that happened at most a week or two before her dream.

Except subliminal suggestion is pretty heavily debunked, insofar as you cannot prove a negative.  The only similar technique with any success being priming, which actually requires that the subject be cognisant of repeated suggestion for it to take hold and produce an effect at a later time.  However, under normal conditions the brain is an extremely lossy to the point where you can blindfold people and trip them up as to what colour clothing they're wearing.

Or a confidence man.

This is very L. Ron Hubbard... just so you know. :why_so_serious:

Maybe, maybe not (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_g2699/is_0006/ai_2699000639/)


Also (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WD0-4KF787W-3&_user=582538&_origUdi=B6WJB-4783JWB-2&_fmt=high&_coverDate=06%2F30%2F2007&_rdoc=1&_orig=article&_acct=C000029718&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=582538&md5=49f22fe3b19cc5677b6a359c74b8d7c2)




Admittedly a far cry from dream induction, but I always get a bit smirky when someone says 'has been debunked' about fairly complex psychological phenomena. I smell an objectivist a mile away.

When does my boat full of money get here?

I believe he mentioned priming in the very next sentence, though...

Fake religions turn into real religions after 50 years and with a minimum number of followers.

I don't know but for some reason your post reminded me of some stuff in a Hubbard novel.

Yep, but there was a further assertion that it couldn't really happen if the subject were not aware of the priming.



The two articles I posted state that it can happen with the subject not aware. In fact, that's the entire point of the latter.

 

I could go on the defensive over shit I barely remember from a University course years ago and we could argue about the meaning of cognisant.  Or I could ask why the fuck you are trolling me with this bullshit that is completely beside the fucking point, because you can't prime people with complex information.

From io9:

"This website is actually the creation of a sociologist and marketer named Andrea Natella. He runs a company called Guerriglia Marketing (http://www.guerrigliamarketing.it/) which stages "subversive hoaxes" and creates weird art projects that are mostly about pornography, politics, and advertising."

Does this mean Engel's GF is a sexy Manchurian Candidate?

Also, does anyone know Italian?

I know an Italian who knows Italian, if that helps.