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Title: Clash of the Titans Post by: Merusk on October 13, 2009, 04:43:14 PM No, not the 81 movie with Olivier ( :uhrr: ) and The Penguin.. err Burgess Meredith. Was perusing the Wife's Entertainment Weekly and came across a bit saying they were doing a remake, coming out summer of 2010.
Liam Neeson as Zeus, Sam Worthington as Perseus, Alexa Davalos as Andromeda and Raph Feinnes as Hades. No Mention of Calibos on Wiki, IMDB or any other site I could find. Upon further reading, this is because even tho it's labeled as a "remake" and showns under the name of "Clash of the Titans" what we really have here is a Live Action version of Disney's Hercules, using Perseus instead. From Wikipedia: Quote In the film, the ultimate struggle for power pits men against kings and kings against gods. But the war between the gods themselves could destroy the world. Born of a god but raised as a man, Perseus (Worthington) is helpless to save his family from Hades (Fiennes), vengeful god of the underworld.[4] With nothing left to lose, Perseus volunteers to lead a dangerous mission to defeat Hades before he can seize power from Zeus (Neeson) and unleash hell on Earth.[5] Leading a daring band of warriors, Perseus sets off on a perilous journey deep into forbidden worlds. Battling unholy demons and fearsome beasts, he will only survive if he can accept his power as a god, defy his fate and create his own destiny.[6] :awesome_for_real: :uhrr: Once more proving that not only is Hollywood out of ideas, they're down to skullfucking the good ones. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Slyfeind on October 13, 2009, 10:51:40 PM Hehehe, that sounds oh so deliciously awful.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Abagadro on October 13, 2009, 11:04:27 PM Needs more Harry Hamlin.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Margalis on October 14, 2009, 01:31:10 AM No Kraken or Robot Owl = not interested.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: HaemishM on October 14, 2009, 09:42:14 AM The pictures I've seen of the set don't look bad, though much more 300 than Clash of the Titans. It'll be cheesy, but probably not as cheesy as the original.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Riggswolfe on October 14, 2009, 02:48:22 PM The pictures I've seen of the set don't look bad, though much more 300 than Clash of the Titans. It'll be cheesy, but probably not as cheesy as the original. I worship the original and spent most of my childhood with a crush on Andromeda and a fear of Calibos. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Morat20 on November 04, 2009, 12:03:18 PM The pictures I've seen of the set don't look bad, though much more 300 than Clash of the Titans. It'll be cheesy, but probably not as cheesy as the original. The original was the inspiration of all that is awesome in the world. Plus, it had boobies. And a robot owl. I wanted a robot owl so damn bad when I was 8. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Ironwood on November 04, 2009, 12:13:22 PM Medusa, Man, Fucking Medusa.
Did not do this Ophidaphobe any good seeing that as a kid in the Cinema. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Morat20 on November 04, 2009, 12:37:21 PM Medusa, Man, Fucking Medusa. Creepy, yes. As well as the fates with that damn eye.Did not do this Ophidaphobe any good seeing that as a kid in the Cinema. But do you know what really just creeped me out as a kid? The fucking Skexies from Dark Crystal. Especially that one that wanted to be the boss, and that damn little questioning noise he made. Those goddamn things were nightmare fuel. I still shudder thinking about them. How the hell did the guy who created Kermit the Frog manage to create something that Lovecraft would have been proud of? Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: VainEldritch on November 05, 2009, 02:13:21 AM No Kraken or Robot Owl = not interested. This, kind of. It has to be a bout the mythology - not just the titans and beasts of legend. I'm wondering how close to the actual mythology they will shoot? There are so many fabulous gems they can either polish or dull. This project scares me. "Unleash the Kraken!" Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Abagadro on November 11, 2009, 12:32:49 AM Teaser Trailer (http://backseatcuddler.com/2009/11/11/cool-clash-of-the-titans-teaser-trailer/)
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Ironwood on November 11, 2009, 02:48:33 AM Holy Fuck.
Good God. Looks like they pretty much took the original, remade it scene for scene except larger and cooler. Medusa again. Arg. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Oban on November 11, 2009, 03:41:01 AM Wow, that brought back some great memories of childhood emotional trauma.
I can not wait to see this movie. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Ironwood on November 11, 2009, 03:46:59 AM No. Bigger Scorpions.
*days later* No. Bigger. Fuck Sake, you're not getting it. *days later* For Christ Sake, BIGGER SCORPIONS. Kalebos used Medusas Blood, you assholes. I want you back at your fucking computers giving me BIGGER SCORPIONS. Remember that one outta Transformers ? Like that. BIGGER FUCKING SCORPIONS ! *Trailer Hits* Look at the size of those fucking scorpions. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: stray on November 11, 2009, 04:39:38 AM You're reminding of the story Kevin Smith talked about.... I think with Superman? The producer he met up with was obsessed with big insects, and wanted them in the movie. (he was also responsible for Wild Wild West, I believe).
edit: OK, watched that trailer. Looks fantastic. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Khaldun on November 11, 2009, 06:00:03 AM It has a kind of excellent cheese feeling underneath the "300" touches, very appropriate to the project. Looks promising.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: pxib on November 11, 2009, 08:47:58 AM I think it'll be just as cheesy as the original if not moreso... it's just that the special effects are better now. You have to remember that at the time Ray Harryhausen was still state of the art. God of War the movie? That's worth a matinee.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: WayAbvPar on November 11, 2009, 08:58:29 AM Apparently I am the only one totally unimpressed by the trailer. I fucking hate that editing style (of the trailer)- it feels like they don't have anything of substance to show, so they just spam kewl images while rattling the audience's teeth with some hard rock soundtrack. Meh.
I loved the original- even wrote an entire AD&D module recreating many elements of it (especially the Medusa's lair). Also recreated that in Adventure Construction Set, iirc. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Cyrrex on November 11, 2009, 08:58:46 AM I think it'll be just as cheesy as the original if not moreso... it's just that the special effects are better now. You have to remember that at the time Ray Harryhausen was still state of the art. God of War the movie? That's worth a matinee. I assume that you use "cheesy" as a synonym for "fucking awesome". And the scorpions :ye_gods:. The orginal gave me a life-long fear of those horrible, horrible things. And Medusa! OMG! And christ forgive me, but I'll never forget those boobies. They opened up a whole new world for my 8 year-old self. I truly hope they do the boobies again. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Abagadro on November 11, 2009, 09:00:54 AM Apparently I am the only one totally unimpressed by the trailer. I fucking hate that editing style (of the trailer)- it feels like they don't have anything of substance to show, so they just spam kewl images while rattling the audience's teeth with some hard rock soundtrack. Meh. I think that is a function of it being a teaser trailer. That is the style they use for a lot of those these days. They will have more character/plot/substance when the full trailer comes out in a few months. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: 01101010 on November 11, 2009, 09:21:18 AM While nothing will take away from the life long effects the original movie had on my being, I am mildly interested in seeing this remake.
But only if they do something about these bloody marsh-flies. ::sidenote - the Skexies also kept me up at night along with those Garthim (sp?). The Dark Crystal was the first movie I got to see in a theater -by myself- (meaning me and a group of my school friends in a mall theater with a parent chaperon a few rows back). If that ever gets remade, I may go on a killing spree of the entire movie's credit listing. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: rattran on November 11, 2009, 09:30:01 AM Uh, you know The Dark Crystal 2 is already in production?
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: HaemishM on November 11, 2009, 09:45:42 AM I liked the trailer, except it kept stopping and starting on me like it had buffering issues. Scorpions and Medusa look the business.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Lakov_Sanite on November 11, 2009, 11:29:00 AM I will have a nerdgasm when I hear "release the kraken"
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: 01101010 on November 11, 2009, 11:40:32 AM Uh, you know The Dark Crystal 2 is already in production? sadly yes, but its not a reboot, its a sequel - that i can deal with Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Slyfeind on November 11, 2009, 11:47:06 AM The rawk music made it sound like a shitty fan flick. But the scorpions were WIN.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Riggswolfe on November 11, 2009, 12:30:03 PM The trailer looks ok. The problem is that the movie summary sounds to me more like Disney's Hercules than Clash of the Titans.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Ironwood on November 11, 2009, 02:28:28 PM Even from the teaser, it seemed the went more into the story of Calibos. That, in itself, is a massive win.
(Yes, I looked up the spelling since my last post) Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Merusk on November 11, 2009, 04:08:22 PM Remember, it's not Calibos, but Hades. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0800320/) It's Disney's Hercules using COTT scenes. I'll withhold judgment until I see more, but while the scorpions were awesome it worries me that they were in every 2nd scene of the teaser. Perhaps so as to not give away too much, but the cynic in me says "that's because it's the only really awesome part."
Also, wtf is up with IMDB listing "God of War" instead of Ares. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Margalis on November 12, 2009, 03:04:43 AM No Kraken or Robot Owl = not interested. Combined number of Krakens and Robot Owls in teaser: 0. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: K9 on November 17, 2009, 07:40:56 AM I liked the trailer, except it kept stopping and starting on me like it had buffering issues. Scorpions and Medusa look the business. Traileraddict never streams well for me. I really like Sam Worthington, this film promises to be most entertaining Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Signe on November 17, 2009, 08:39:58 AM I guess it really is true. There is nothing new left. We are out of new stuff forever! I might be lucky that my memory is so dreadful.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Merusk on November 17, 2009, 04:08:07 PM I guess it really is true. There is nothing new left. We are out of new stuff forever! I might be lucky that my memory is so dreadful. To hear Rob Zombie tell it, it's because Hollywood is scared shitless of its entire business going *pft* like the newspapers. So instead of trying anything new or unproven everyone's looking to remake films that made money in the past. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: NowhereMan on November 17, 2009, 07:52:34 PM The Newspapers should totally try that, who know what kind of circulation "Man Lands on the Moon" might achieve today.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Morat20 on November 18, 2009, 12:01:23 AM I guess it really is true. There is nothing new left. We are out of new stuff forever! I might be lucky that my memory is so dreadful. I'm waiting for the edgy remake of Babylon 5. Take the basic premise, strip out the cheese, get some good special effects and Big Fucking Space Battles, and Bob's your Uncle. Sadly, it'll probably be tried by Joss Whedon on Fox, go 11 episodes, and get cancelled. I don't even know why he bothers trying to make shows for Fox. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Teleku on November 18, 2009, 11:58:24 AM If Ron Moore hadn't screwed up the end of BSG, I'd say get him. But yeah, basically give Babylon 5 the BSG treatment.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Ard on November 18, 2009, 12:25:47 PM I'm waiting for the edgy remake of Babylon 5. Take the basic premise, strip out the cheese, get some good special effects and Big Fucking Space Battles, and Bob's your Uncle. I might be a few too many years removed from having seen it, but wasn't that all of season 4 of the show? Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Trippy on November 18, 2009, 04:04:11 PM I guess it really is true. There is nothing new left. We are out of new stuff forever! I might be lucky that my memory is so dreadful. I'm waiting for the edgy remake of Babylon 5. Take the basic premise, strip out the cheese, get some good special effects and Big Fucking Space Battles, and Bob's your Uncle. Sadly, it'll probably be tried by Joss Whedon on Fox, go 11 episodes, and get cancelled. I don't even know why he bothers trying to make shows for Fox. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Morat20 on November 18, 2009, 05:49:29 PM I'm waiting for the edgy remake of Babylon 5. Take the basic premise, strip out the cheese, get some good special effects and Big Fucking Space Battles, and Bob's your Uncle. I might be a few too many years removed from having seen it, but wasn't that all of season 4 of the show? On the other hand, you could probably claim that DS9 was the edgy, darker Babylon 5 remake. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Riggswolfe on November 19, 2009, 06:39:58 PM Sadly, it'll probably be tried by Joss Whedon on Fox, go 11 episodes, and get cancelled. I don't even know why he bothers trying to make shows for Fox. Cause no one else will buy them.The CW would buy it. I suspect that Fox dangles money in front of him and Whedon has no pretensions to being an artiste. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: stu on December 16, 2009, 12:41:01 AM The Kraken looks cool.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Riggswolfe on December 17, 2009, 01:58:23 PM But only if they do something about these bloody marsh-flies. You know, the first time I read this thread I totally missed this call out to the original movie. Well played! On a more related note, Terminator Salvation has made me look forward to this because I found Sam Worthington to be the best thing in that movie, Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: WayAbvPar on March 31, 2010, 04:03:16 PM Just ordered my tickets for Friday night. Nerdgasm incoming.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Riggswolfe on March 31, 2010, 11:52:21 PM Did you go 3d or 2d? I've heard the 3d on this is terrible because it was retrofitted in.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Velorath on April 01, 2010, 01:56:43 AM Yeah, the 3D in this movie is absolute shit and with 3D prices on the rise at the moment I'd strongly advise skipping the 3D version. I've seen plenty of 3D movies where the 3D didn't really add much to the movie. This is the first I've seen where the 3D version was actually worse than the 2D.
On the other hand, I sat through all of the 2D version tonight and it was entertaining enough. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: WayAbvPar on April 01, 2010, 02:49:41 PM Ugh. Got 3D. If it is bad enough I will bitch to the theatre :drill:
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Velorath on April 01, 2010, 05:06:06 PM If you bought your tickets in the theater (as opposed to online on Fandango which I'd never recommend) I'd just get them refunded and buy tickets to the 2D showing.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: WayAbvPar on April 02, 2010, 09:28:23 PM Didn't even cross my mind...duh (although I did buy them online anyway). It was pure and utter shit. GOD it was bad. Like nearly Dungeons and Dragons bad. Whoever edited it needs to go to rehab and never get near a film again. The 3D effects were so blurry that the picture was far clearer when I took my glasses off. Sam Worthington makes Keanu Reeves look emotive. And I am pretty sure the Hades effects were stolen from Voldemort scenes left on the cutting room floor, with some hair CGI'ed to Ralph Fiennes' head and face.
A couple of inspired bits- Polly Walker (who I adore) as Cassiopeia doing her best Atia impression and Alexa Davalos really looked like they could be mother and daughter. And the Medusa part was reasonably well done. Other than that, just fucking terrible. Avoid. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Teleku on April 02, 2010, 10:00:25 PM Hmm, that's not good to hear. Especially since I'm going out with friends tomorrow night to go see it.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: SurfD on April 02, 2010, 10:53:57 PM I have to agree with the bit about Worthington. Compared to other recent movies he has been in, I can only describe his performance in Clash as even less then phoned in. I mean, fuck, during the first 1/3 of the movie, they could have knocked him un-concious and propped him up with sticks, and you probably wouldnt have been able to tell the difference between that and his actual acting.
Personally, I actually really liked the "god" effects. Zeus and Hades looked appropriately awe inspiring when doing their Sparkly / Dark-n-evil bits. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Khaldun on April 03, 2010, 08:34:02 PM It was cheese. If you don't expect much, you'll be entertained. It's basically a less visually imaginative version of God of War with a similarly expressionless protagonist. Sure, Worthington phones it in--was someone expecting otherwise? Or somehow misremembering Hamlin doing Oscar-worthy work in the original?
About the main complaint I had was that it's actually a bit slow-paced in parts, could use a few more bit characters chewing some scenery, and one or two of the action sequences suffer (even in 2D) from bad camera work of a kind that's become practically the standard for action sequences in contemporary films. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Khaldun on April 03, 2010, 08:37:20 PM Though now that I think on it, speaking of bit characters, I kind of enjoyed the hatefulness of the hippie-freak Shaggy Hades-loving religious nut. That's the kind of cheese that kids who see this flick today will be remembering fifteen years from now.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: proudft on April 04, 2010, 07:24:42 PM Wait, I thought that guy was Jesus. :why_so_serious:
My one random question is why did Athena get replaced as the hander-outer of magic items? Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: tazelbain on April 05, 2010, 11:43:03 AM Generally, it was an alright movie. It annoys me when they try to make Hades into Satan.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Khaldun on April 05, 2010, 04:46:35 PM Separate problem, but yeah. Hades should basically be a middle-aged fairly passive depressive who drinks too much but has a trophy wife.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Evildrider on April 05, 2010, 04:48:17 PM I think if you go into it not expecting it to be a complete remake, you'll find it watchable and entertaining. If you are gonna nitpick every little inconsistency, don't bother going.
I liked it for what it was, it wasn't the best ever, but definitely watchable imo. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Khaldun on April 05, 2010, 07:23:47 PM Though honestly if you want a moment that reveals where Hollywood's head is at with this kind of shit, it's the moment where Perseus picks Bubo out of the chest and says WTF is this and the guy-who-looks-like-the-Rock-but-isn't is like don't worry, it's just stupid. Like, what's the point of doing a remake where you decide that the single most affectionately remembered thing from the first version is something you're obligated to take a dump on so that you can show you're all serious, yo.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Nerf on April 06, 2010, 06:25:00 PM the guy-who-looks-like-the-Rock-but-isn't Fucking thank you. The entire movie it was bugging the shit out of me - I kept poking the girlfriend and saying "That kind of looks like The Rock but isn't" and she just couldn't see it. Oh also, the movie was shit, but the scorpions were big. Goddamn those were some big fucking scorpions. An hour and a half of those would have been better than an hour of "But I have to do this a man! (Even though I'm pretty much Hercules so it doesn't count anyways)" Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Aez on April 06, 2010, 07:56:20 PM I just saw it. Clash of the Titans = Mortal combat 2. That is all.
And there is no Titans. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Sir T on April 07, 2010, 09:56:37 AM Titans clashing? You really want to see Cronus beating his dad Uranus by chopping off his genitalia? :why_so_serious:
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Der Helm on April 07, 2010, 03:36:14 PM Titans clashing? You really want to see Cronus beating his dad Uranus by chopping off his genitalia? :why_so_serious: Spartacus: Blood and Genitalia (aka Season 2) :awesome_for_real: Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: tazelbain on April 07, 2010, 04:02:33 PM I don't think there were titans in the original either.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Riggswolfe on April 07, 2010, 06:40:33 PM I don't think there were titans in the original either. I think the Kraken was supposed to be the last Titan. I guess Clash of the Titan just didn't sound as exciting though. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Samwise on April 07, 2010, 06:43:00 PM Medusa was referred to as a Titan too, I think. And the final battle involved Medusa killing the Kraken, sort of.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Mattemeo on April 07, 2010, 06:54:47 PM The 3D effects were so blurry that the picture was far clearer when I took my glasses off. Hard and fast rule of 3D: no cut can be less than two seconds long, because that's the ammount of time the human eye needs to fully register the 3D effect after the cut. That is why Avatar works, and Clash of the Titans cannot - Avatar was filmed in 3D, by a man who perfected the current technology, Clash was filmed like any other movie, and then some moneygrubbing Hollywood fuckstick suggested they shit all over the film in post-production cludging false 3D onto something never designed to have it in order to pull in a few more bucks off the holiday punters. The '2D' experience is great - the action is crisp, fast cuts make sense, effects are hunky dory. Though honestly if you want a moment that reveals where Hollywood's head is at with this kind of shit, it's the moment where Perseus picks Bubo out of the chest and says WTF is this and the guy-who-looks-like-the-Rock-but-isn't is like don't worry, it's just stupid. Like, what's the point of doing a remake where you decide that the single most affectionately remembered thing from the first version is something you're obligated to take a dump on so that you can show you're all serious, yo. Ehh, I didn't think the Bubo bit was at all serious. LeTerrier knows he's making a silly movie, I thought it was very tongue in cheek and a nice little cameo. As for Mr-looks-like-the-Rock - that's Mads Mikkelsen! Aka: Le Chiffre from Casino Royale. If you look closely, he's not even particularly buff. My own thoughts? I enjoyed it, despite the long list of wrong. I saw it in 2D, mind - I was forewarned thanks to a few early reviews. The good? Special effects are great - over the top, yes - but the tone of the film absolutely requires it; and the creature (re)design is mostly excellent, barring a slightly retarded looking Kraken (a bit too much of the Cloverfield on that one). The Scorpions are hilarious, Medusa is graceful and other-worldly, the Pegasus is actually so convincing you kind of forget it's an effect. Ralph Feinnes hams it up to the hilt as Hades, all red-rimmed eyes, black smoke and hatred. Gemma Arterton fucking glows as Io, she lights up every scene she's in and she's not in enough scenes. The bad? The plot was already preposterous, but the dialogue means it gets even more stupid in this remake. The pacing is just... completely fucking off. It wants to be epic but it shuffles along so fast it never once has a chance. It's like a 3 hour movie rammed into a 1 1/2 hour hole. Seriously, if you're going to location hop as madly as this film does (I loved spotting Erta Ale volcano - a mere stone's throw all the way over in that sunniest of Grecian provinces, Ethiopia!), at least let us spend more than 5 minutes there, if that. One of my biggest gripes is the Olympians are treated with even more disdain than the bloody Jedi Council - they're there to look pretty (read: create some more massive fucking lens flare) and that's it. Speaking of Lens flare... Liam Neeson's SHINYSUIT is just eye-watering. Ok, we get it, he's Zeus. Does Zeus really need to look like a walking photoshop filter circa 2001? Oh yes, and lastly, Sam Worthington's buzzcut. Potato-headed twat. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Aez on April 07, 2010, 07:05:10 PM Medusa was referred to as a Titan too, I think. And the final battle involved Medusa killing the Kraken, sort of. I wouldn't bet on this but from memory : Medusa is a beautiful human that got raped Kraken is Hades' child, the gods use it to kill the Titans None of them are Titans. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Sir T on April 07, 2010, 07:12:16 PM I think this nerd fight needs me to watch the original! :drill:
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Samwise on April 07, 2010, 07:38:22 PM I watched the original on Netflix streaming last month. :oh_i_see: Admittedly, I wasn't paying THAT close attention, but I'm pretty sure both the Kraken and Medusa were referred to as being among the last of the Titans. Not that this makes any sense with respect to the original mythology as far as I know.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Riggswolfe on April 07, 2010, 07:51:05 PM Medusa is a beautiful human that got raped I thought she was cursed because she thought she was more beautiful than Aphrodite or something? Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Aez on April 08, 2010, 07:22:54 AM In the classic mythology yes but in the movie she was raped by a god (I don't remember which one) in Athena's temple.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Murgos on April 08, 2010, 08:11:16 AM Medusa is a beautiful human that got raped I thought she was cursed because she thought she was more beautiful than Aphrodite or something? According to the Roman version of the story. In the older Greek legends the Gorgons were children of god-like creatures from before the coming of the gods (but not Titans, more like the Great Old Ones). Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Comstar on April 10, 2010, 02:19:19 AM Needed better direction and script- it wasn't Transformers II bad, but it was clearly missing part of the script. I never did figure out the difference between the 2 old soilders and 2 young soilders, they were completely interchangeable. Mass Effect II has changed me- if you're going to send the guys on a suicide mission at least give the audience a mission where they can do something first.
Or what the gods's plan was. Needed more God's too- Posidion needed some action, and Athena needed something to add to the movie. The Kraken was good- I'd want to see it vs New York but then remembered we've seen that already in Cloverfield. Would be nice to see a monster the actual size of a city rampaging through the US (as opposed to the Cloverfield monster that was just the size of a building). I also enjoyed the starring role of the Hubble Space Telescope at the start. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Aez on April 10, 2010, 07:30:32 AM Anyone figured out WTF the mechanical owl scene was about? I'm talking about the scene where the hero find a small mechanical owl when the team is gearing up in the city.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Quinton on April 10, 2010, 07:54:47 AM I gather the original film featured a mechanical owl, and depending on who you ask it was the best part or the worst part of that film. ^^
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Murgos on April 10, 2010, 08:00:33 AM The mechanical owl is a nod to the original movie.
I watched it last night. I must be turning into a grumpy old man because I thought it was awful. If my girlfriend hadn't been the one to suggest we go and also bought the tickets I would have walked out about halfway through. At one point she said something like, "This movie is kind of scary." and I said, "Yeah, every time someone opens their mouth to talk I cringe in fear." Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Sir T on April 10, 2010, 09:34:05 AM In the original, Zeus told Athena to give Perseus her Owl of Wisdom. Athena got Hepheastus to build a mechanical Owl, filled it with Wisdom and sent that instead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hoy8MEL9N3M&NR=1 Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Ratman_tf on April 11, 2010, 07:30:57 AM The only good thing about a lot of these remakes is that they remind me to pick up a copy of the original on DVD.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Ghambit on April 11, 2010, 09:05:19 AM The original was 10 times the movie this was. And it was a horrible mistake moving so far away from the original script... all they had to do was modernize a classic and it would've been win.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Sir T on April 11, 2010, 09:54:10 AM I agree. With modern cgi and effects the original would blow peoples socks off. Hell its still enjoyable
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Ghambit on April 11, 2010, 05:22:36 PM I dunno, it's like modern movies fail to capture the epic fantasy "quest-like" movies of old have. Stuff like Krull, Dark Crystal, Goonies, and on and on. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Cadaverine on April 11, 2010, 07:20:39 PM I loved Ray Harryhausen movies when I was a kid. I'd still put his work above 95% of the CGI stuff being done today. For me, it's simply that there's something more 'real' about a physical miniature, vs a CGI model. The look of the ships in the Star Wars prequels compared to the original films would be a good example of this.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Comstar on April 11, 2010, 10:30:51 PM This story explains what happened (http://chud.com/articles/articles/23299/1/BY-ZEUS-THE-VERSION-OF-CLASH-OF-THE-TITANS-YOU-DIDN039T-SEE/Page1.html)
What I don't understand is why they made the changes they did- all this editing just created huge holes in the story and the reshoots made no sense. After reading this story, I like the movie a lot less now - it could have been much better. Quote BY ZEUS! THE VERSION OF CLASH OF THE TITANS YOU DIDN'T SEE By Devin Faraci It's obvious that Clash of the Titans isn't the movie it's supposed to be. Watching the film - 2D or 3D - reveals a movie that's internally inconsistent and that bears all the hallmarks of something that's been tampered with and changed at the last minute. Trying to figure out what happened and to discover what the other Clash of the Titans could have been, I began doing some research and investigation. Probably the most interesting thing I learned is that there's a significantly different cut of the film in the vault. Louis Leterrier's original version of Clash of the Titans differs from what's playing in theaters in some fairly major ways, and while some of it could be restored for the DVD release, much of it would need extra FX work and would drastically change the plot of the film. Unlike last summer's Terminator Salvation, which got messed around with in the script stage and on set, Clash of the Titans was largely changed after principal photography through editing and some widely reported reshoots - all of which included Leterrier. It should go without saying that this article will contain spoilers for Clash of the Titans, so if you haven't seen the movie please stop reading now. What now? Some script changes were made on set, so some scenes never got shot, but there is a ton of footage of the gods that exists. Could there be a director's cut of the movie one day released? There are two major obstacles to that at the moment: first of all, all of the god scenes presumably need FX work (all of the Olympus scenes have a processed, fantastical look, and the floor of Olympus is a very cool birds-eye view of Greece, which I'm assuming is CGI). But more sticky is the fact that this cut would be a movie that has a completely different throughline and ending. With Clash performing as it is it's not unlikely that a sequel could be greenlit, so would Warner Bros want to put out a version of the movie that completely contradicts whatever will come next for the franchise? I wish they would. There's stuff in Clash of the Titans that works - lots of fun moments and action set pieces that thrill. But there are other things that simply don't. The shooting script presents an intriguing alternate version of the film, one with more humor and characterization and one with much more intriguing philosophical stakes. The ending of the original sets up fascinating avenues for a sequel, and feels like the beginning of the next step in Perseus' journey to free humanity from the yoke of godly oppression. Instead we ended up with a movie where our hero sells out to the man. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Ghambit on April 11, 2010, 11:40:36 PM Something tells me there were some legal issues with the original script. Perhaps they were asking too much coin for the IP, I dunno.... but they definitely turned one of the easiest movies to do a modern remake for, into garbage. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: WayAbvPar on April 12, 2010, 08:55:47 AM This story explains what happened (http://chud.com/articles/articles/23299/1/BY-ZEUS-THE-VERSION-OF-CLASH-OF-THE-TITANS-YOU-DIDN039T-SEE/Page1.html) What I don't understand is why they made the changes they did- all this editing just created huge holes in the story and the reshoots made no sense. After reading this story, I like the movie a lot less now - it could have been much better. Quote BY ZEUS! THE VERSION OF CLASH OF THE TITANS YOU DIDN'T SEE By Devin Faraci It's obvious that Clash of the Titans isn't the movie it's supposed to be. Watching the film - 2D or 3D - reveals a movie that's internally inconsistent and that bears all the hallmarks of something that's been tampered with and changed at the last minute. Trying to figure out what happened and to discover what the other Clash of the Titans could have been, I began doing some research and investigation. Probably the most interesting thing I learned is that there's a significantly different cut of the film in the vault. Louis Leterrier's original version of Clash of the Titans differs from what's playing in theaters in some fairly major ways, and while some of it could be restored for the DVD release, much of it would need extra FX work and would drastically change the plot of the film. Unlike last summer's Terminator Salvation, which got messed around with in the script stage and on set, Clash of the Titans was largely changed after principal photography through editing and some widely reported reshoots - all of which included Leterrier. It should go without saying that this article will contain spoilers for Clash of the Titans, so if you haven't seen the movie please stop reading now. What now? Some script changes were made on set, so some scenes never got shot, but there is a ton of footage of the gods that exists. Could there be a director's cut of the movie one day released? There are two major obstacles to that at the moment: first of all, all of the god scenes presumably need FX work (all of the Olympus scenes have a processed, fantastical look, and the floor of Olympus is a very cool birds-eye view of Greece, which I'm assuming is CGI). But more sticky is the fact that this cut would be a movie that has a completely different throughline and ending. With Clash performing as it is it's not unlikely that a sequel could be greenlit, so would Warner Bros want to put out a version of the movie that completely contradicts whatever will come next for the franchise? I wish they would. There's stuff in Clash of the Titans that works - lots of fun moments and action set pieces that thrill. But there are other things that simply don't. The shooting script presents an intriguing alternate version of the film, one with more humor and characterization and one with much more intriguing philosophical stakes. The ending of the original sets up fascinating avenues for a sequel, and feels like the beginning of the next step in Perseus' journey to free humanity from the yoke of godly oppression. Instead we ended up with a movie where our hero sells out to the man. Agreed. That sounds like a movie worth watching, and makes me want to kick the editor in the junk all the more. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: tazelbain on April 12, 2010, 02:59:11 PM So the compliment to turning Hades into Satan, I guess, is turning Zeus into Yahweh. Of course, Yahweh can't be the bad guy. Very silly, but I still liked the movie for the monster bashing.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Sir T on April 13, 2010, 07:17:23 PM Kraken is Hades' child, the gods use it to kill the Titans None of them are Titans. Just watching the original. Zeus says in the first 10 minutes that the Kraken is the last of the Titans. Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Ironwood on April 14, 2010, 01:11:13 AM Oh, well, if the God of Gods says so, It Must Be True.
:why_so_serious: Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: Sir T on April 14, 2010, 05:38:40 AM If Zeus had been played by Charlton Heston his opinion would have carried more wieght :why_so_serious:
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: HaemishM on September 20, 2010, 08:36:29 AM Watched this over the weekend. How, with millions of dollars and a solid cast, do you fuck up something so goddamn simple as a remake of the classic cheesefest? Hollywood somehow figured out a way. It started poorly with the whole "Curse the gods!" and "SOMETHING MUST BE DONE ABOUT IT! SOMEWHEN! SO SAYS THE FISHERMAN!" speeches. Once we got to Argos, it fell apart even more and the whole Perseus is the reluctant angsty douche demigod never rang true at all. He didn't want to be like a god because a God sort of kind of killed his adopted father and family? Is that it? Shouldn't he just he pissy at Hades, not the concepts of gods in general? And if Hades really wanted to steal all the worship from Zeus, couldn't he just release the Kraken on his own? Or I don't know, make it rain fucking fire on Argos? Seems he had pretty free reign in the world. Calibos was fucking awful - where are the goat legs? How did he get across the River Styx? Not even giant scorpions and a pretty cool looking Kraken could save this turd. You could even tell what parts they added merely to claim they were in 3D. It had about the impact of Jaws 3D only that shark looked more believable than most of the shit in this movie. The Medusa effects were pretty good, but the ripped off from LotRO scorpion riding Djinn's made no sense to the story whatsoever other than to have a cool looking character. I cared about every single character in Perseus' retinue except Perseus.
Title: Re: Clash of the Titans Post by: WindupAtheist on September 20, 2010, 05:47:41 PM I would have liked to have seen a semi-authentic telling of the Perseus myth, with the sea monster being more of a sidequest than the main point of the movie and an existential threat to the world. (A sidequest taking place in Africa or maybe Israel depending on how you read it, but lol brown people I guess.) I knew that wasn't in the cards though, just based on this being a remake of the nearly-as-divergent original.
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