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Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: SirBruce on December 30, 2004, 04:14:59 PM Note that release dates are often highly speculative (most from EBGAMES):
Gary Grisby's World at War - 02/07 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II (PC) - 02/08 Star Wars: Republic Commando - 03/01 Face of Mankind (MMOG) - 03/01 Roma Victor (MMOG) - 03/01 Freedom Force vs. The Third Reich - 03/08 The Sims 2: University - 03/15 Silent Hunter III - 03/22 Jade Empire (X-Box) - 03/29 The Matrix Online (MMOG) - 03/30 Dungeon Lords - 04/01 Guild Wars (MMOG) - 04/18 Wish (MMOG) - 05/01 S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl - 05/14 Dungeon Siege II - 05/16 The Movies - 06/15 Middle Earth Online (MMOG) - 06/15 Auto Assault (MMOG) - 07/29 Dungeons & Dragons Online (MMOG) - 08/01 Madden NFL 2006 - 08/08 City of Villians (MMOG) - 08/14 Tabula Rasa (MMOG) - 09/07 Imperator (MMOG) - 11/01 Bruce Title: Re: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Big Gulp on December 30, 2004, 04:42:22 PM Quote from: SirBruce City of Villians (MMOG) - 08/14 If this is even close to true you just broke my heart. Springtime, bitch! Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: HaemishM on December 30, 2004, 05:12:12 PM Some of those really make me laugh. The CoV one, however, makes me cry.
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: sidereal on December 30, 2004, 05:17:13 PM You accidentally left off Playboy: the Mansion.
Title: Re: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: SirBruce on December 30, 2004, 05:24:11 PM Quote from: Big Gulp Quote from: SirBruce City of Villians (MMOG) - 08/14 If this is even close to true you just broke my heart. Springtime, bitch! It can't be before May, because they said they'd give priority in beta to those who have been subscribers "for at least 12 months". And you figure beta is going to be at least a month or two long... Bruce Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: plangent on December 30, 2004, 05:37:58 PM March is going to be hard to beat. Jade Empire and the xbox port of Super Monkey Ball. God is in his heaven and all is right with the world.
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: schild on December 30, 2004, 06:02:34 PM I know Sam Fisher has a license to kill furries, but you didn't have to leave off Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory just because you're afraid.
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: SirBruce on December 30, 2004, 06:07:57 PM I'm actually more jazzed about Silent Hunter III and STALKER than anything else on the list right now, simply because I've been waiting for them for over a year now. I'm skeptical that Turbine can release both MEO and D&DO this year, but it depends on what their financial situation is like -- the rapidly falling revenues of AC1 and AC2 may force them into a situation when they feel compelled to ship.
Bruce Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: shiznitz on December 31, 2004, 06:38:11 AM No fucking way MEO and DDO come out in 2005. Not going to happen. These games are still way to invisible on the hype-o-meter to be that developed.
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Ralence on December 31, 2004, 12:17:49 PM Quote from: shiznitz No fucking way MEO and DDO come out in 2005. Not going to happen. These games are still way to invisible on the hype-o-meter to be that developed. I disagree, considering safe money says they're using the same engine as AC2, which will be new to most people since so few bothered to play that steaming pile. I'd wager MEO and D&DO will be a lot closer to really being just AC2 with fixes than something new and god forbid, original. Not to mention the fact that MEO Senior Producer Mike Wallis came from Eve, a game not known for it's fun factor to say the least, and Judith Hoffman is the Lead Producer for D&DO, the former Executive Producer for AC2. Even if Turbine put together a package that was AC1 + AC2 + MEO + D&DO for $1/month, I'd rather punch myself in the nuts and save the $1. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Viin on December 31, 2004, 01:46:41 PM *I* though EVE was fun. I might even pick up my subscription again and check out the changed with the new (free) expansion once WoW starts to bore me.
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: eldaec on January 01, 2005, 12:12:49 PM No way in hell CoV will launch before Q4.
And possibly not before 2006. Comments on the forum by the designers are all of the open sky variety. Beta running from July-October, launch late October would be my most hopeful guess. Everything else on that list with a MMOG tag (except GW) will, I suspect, also either slip or be competing with Horizons. CoH patches get more than 2 months beta. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Murgos on January 01, 2005, 12:52:48 PM Quote from: eldaec CoH patches get more than 2 months beta. Thats a good thing though. No, I doubt if CoV will ship before Oct. that doesn't bother me though. With delay, and shipping unfinished product being the norm, I'm more than willing to let the company that has out performed every expectation have a little slack. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: stray on January 01, 2005, 03:21:18 PM As much as I like Cryptic and CoH, I have absolutely no faith that they can implement good PvP. But..They've surprised me once. Maybe they can do it again.
Quote No fucking way MEO and DDO come out in 2005. Not going to happen. These games are still way to invisible on the hype-o-meter to be that developed. It's not "invisible". You just haven't looked for anything. It's far beyond the concept stage at this point. Quote I disagree, considering safe money says they're using the same engine as AC2, which will be new to most people since so few bothered to play that steaming pile. Graphics are somewhat based on the AC2 engine. It's been tweaked though and is more advanced than that. There's dozens of new things about it (one worth noting is Havok) so it's basically a new engine. It's not HL2 or anything, but worth a look: Screenshots (http://ddo.gamerifts.com/content/index.php?option=com_akogallery&Itemid=27&func=viewcategory&catid=78) Quote Even if Turbine put together a package that was AC1 + AC2 + MEO + D&DO for $1/month, I'd rather punch myself in the nuts and save the $1. I'm afraid if the crowd around here is this irrational, anything I say will make me look like HRose. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: kaid on January 03, 2005, 08:08:06 AM Wow other than freedom force and the city of villians I see nothing on that list that interests me at all kinda depressing.
As for the new turbine made MMOG after AC2 I would not touch these with a 10 foot pole unless I hear amazingly good things about them for at least a month after they are released. Who knows they may surprise me but more likely they will shock and horrify me. kaid Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Viin on January 03, 2005, 01:59:54 PM Quote from: Stray Graphics are somewhat based on the AC2 engine. It's been tweaked though and is more advanced than that. There's dozens of new things about it (one worth noting is Havok) so it's basically a new engine. It's not HL2 or anything, but worth a look: Screenshots (http://ddo.gamerifts.com/content/index.php?option=com_akogallery&Itemid=27&func=viewcategory&catid=78) The screenshots actually look pretty good. I'll have to watch it closer to launch. I also really like the Havok physics engine, so if they implemented that well it could be a pretty cool environment. But, as we all know, graphics and "interesting" environments won't float a game for very long. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: naum on January 03, 2005, 02:28:07 PM Dominions 3 (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/News/pr_01.htm)
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Alkiera on January 03, 2005, 04:23:01 PM Quote from: naum Dominions 3 (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/News/pr_01.htm) The idea of that game was neat, but I didn't like the fact that I had absolutely no input in battles. Sure, I could watch, but not give orders. I recently picked up Medieval: Total War off the bargain shelf, and it seems kinda nice... but what I really want is a modern-graphics Master of Magic. Alkiera Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Murgos on January 03, 2005, 04:36:55 PM One of the properties Firaxis was hinted to be looking at was MoM. Pirates! city combat is very similar (if lacking the unit diversity) to MoM's tactical combat.
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Merusk on January 03, 2005, 07:14:47 PM Quote from: Murgos One of the properties Firaxis was hinted to be looking at was MoM. Pirates! city combat is very similar (if lacking the unit diversity) to MoM's tactical combat. I've heard too many people rumored to be "looking at" or "If this game sells well.." over the last 10 years for this to do anything other than stir the dissapointment in me. On top of that last I heard the folks who now own the rights to the MoM name (Atari?) weren't interested in discussing letting them go or leasing them. If I had the money, I'd have my own damn version created. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Mi_Tes on January 04, 2005, 06:01:38 AM Vanguard's date must have gotten moved since it wasn't mentioned.
Only ones on the list that I am looking forward to playing are: AC1 expansion, Jade Empire, Guild Wars, and Tabula Rasa. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: shiznitz on January 04, 2005, 06:35:53 AM I have little excitement for Tabula Rasa and I hate anime-style art.
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: naum on January 04, 2005, 07:10:08 AM Quote from: Alkiera Quote from: naum Dominions 3 (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/News/pr_01.htm) The idea of that game was neat, but I didn't like the fact that I had absolutely no input in battles. Sure, I could watch, but not give orders. I recently picked up Medieval: Total War off the bargain shelf, and it seems kinda nice... but what I really want is a modern-graphics Master of Magic. Sure you do, you setup your formations and battle orders (i.e., attack rear, attack closest, defend, etc...) and can script your mages to cast specific spells (provided that you've given them the proper gems) -- it makes a world of difference and literally will change the battle if you don't flank your calvary, or put the trample units up front... additionally, how you handle leaders (do they hang back or do they engage in battle on the frontline...) ...it's not supposed to be an RTS clickfest, it's true TBS... The AI in Dom2 blows away the stupidity of RTW and MoM both... ...but the real gem is multiplayer -- and it's true TBS where games take weeks to play and the strategy lines with the different races (and themes within the races) or near inifinite... Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Alkiera on January 04, 2005, 08:05:11 AM Quote from: naum Sure you do, you setup your formations and battle orders (i.e., attack rear, attack closest, defend, etc...) and can script your mages to cast specific spells (provided that you've given them the proper gems) -- it makes a world of difference and literally will change the battle if you don't flank your calvary, or put the trample units up front... additionally, how you handle leaders (do they hang back or do they engage in battle on the frontline...) ...it's not supposed to be an RTS clickfest, it's true TBS... This is not the same thing as the tactical combat of MoM, or even the Total War games(assuming R:TW is the same as M:TW). In MoM, I don't always use the same tactics in every battle. A script to cast spells X, Y, Z is not always enough, especially since the opposing wizard can cast spells, and you probably want to be able to react to that, with dispells, or a different type of damage spell, or to buff or heal my own units instead, or whatever. And if they cast a missle protection spell, having my slingers continue to hurl stones at them is pretty useless. Quote The AI in Dom2 blows away the stupidity of RTW and MoM both... ...but the real gem is multiplayer -- and it's true TBS where games take weeks to play and the strategy lines with the different races (and themes within the races) or near inifinite... I thought for a long time that multiplayer MoM would be a holy grail... But really, any multiplayer game that takes more than a couple hours is gonna lose me. Setting up times to play over weeks is not gonna work, my friends and I tend not to have schedules that regular. And if 'set a few options and then watch the AI fight' is 'true TBS'... I don't want it. Tactical combat >>> hit 'a' and pray. Alkiera Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Lum on January 04, 2005, 08:05:16 AM Quote from: Merusk Quote from: Murgos One of the properties Firaxis was hinted to be looking at was MoM. Pirates! city combat is very similar (if lacking the unit diversity) to MoM's tactical combat. I've heard too many people rumored to be "looking at" or "If this game sells well.." over the last 10 years for this to do anything other than stir the dissapointment in me. On top of that last I heard the folks who now own the rights to the MoM name (Atari?) weren't interested in discussing letting them go or leasing them. If I had the money, I'd have my own damn version created. Stardock (the people who did the excellent Galactic Civilizations http://www.galciv.com ) are working on MoM 2.0. They've said that they're trying to actually obtain the license, but will do a "fantasy strategy game with modern graphics" regardless. http://www.quartertothree.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=301252&highlight=#301252 - discussion. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Alkiera on January 04, 2005, 08:11:31 AM Yeah, I'd heard that too. I played the GalCiv demo, and it did feel more like MoM than many other TBS games I've played recently. If anyone can do a good fantasy TBS that plays like Master of Magic.
Alkiera Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Righ on January 04, 2005, 08:39:59 AM Quote from: Stray Quote Even if Turbine put together a package that was AC1 + AC2 + MEO + D&DO for $1/month, I'd rather punch myself in the nuts and save the $1. I'm afraid if the crowd around here is this irrational, anything I say will make me look like HRose. Just because it is a new year, that's no reason to be nice. The correct response is "I'll give you a buck to punch you in the nuts pal." Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: naum on January 04, 2005, 09:55:41 AM Quote from: Alkiera I thought for a long time that multiplayer MoM would be a holy grail... But really, any multiplayer game that takes more than a couple hours is gonna lose me. Setting up times to play over weeks is not gonna work, my friends and I tend not to have schedules that regular. MP in Dom2 doesn't work like that... ...you have server running that does the "hosting", end of turn processing after all the players have submitted their moves. It's set on a timer, and early game moves take less time than late game where you have armies & spies (& skeptics, assassins, etc...) all over the world... ...it may take some time to pore over the "game board" and figure out your moves for a turn, but there's no "scheduled time" to meet upon... ....literally, it blows any other TBS multiplayer (except maybe for the old Empire wargame...) away... Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Merusk on January 04, 2005, 10:04:57 AM Quote from: Lum Stardock (the people who did the excellent Galactic Civilizations http://www.galciv.com ) are working on MoM 2.0. They've said that they're trying to actually obtain the license, but will do a "fantasy strategy game with modern graphics" regardless. http://www.quartertothree.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=301252&highlight=#301252 - discussion. I own Galciv and really enjoyed it, and still do when I take MMO breaks. I call it the "true" Moo3, even though it's missing the customizeable ships and strategic combat. However, in order to keep my dreams from being shattered I will remain skeptical until the box is on the shelf. (glee) Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: plummerx on January 14, 2005, 12:16:53 AM The list is as notable for what isn't there as what is.
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Signe on January 14, 2005, 05:42:20 AM It's too early for mysterious posts! Dammit!
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Kenrick on January 14, 2005, 07:26:49 AM Age of Empires 3 - "Second half of 2005"
http://www.ensemblestudios.com Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: schild on January 14, 2005, 11:16:52 AM Quote from: Kenrick Age of Empires 3 - "Second half of 2005" Yes. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Sky on January 14, 2005, 12:19:01 PM I was just reading the writeup in the latest pc gamer on AoE III, looks pretty nice, even though I don't care for rts and I'm tired of AoE/M. It's kind of too bad they pulled a lot of the early features like being able to level up units persistently (not just single player, but persistent across multiplayer games as well) and especially some of the more advanced interactions with the native tribes.
Reading the early design form makes it sound an awful lot like Colonization 2, the game I would probably make if a truckload of cash crashed into my house. You hear that, schild? COLONIZATION 2 BRIAN!!! Sorry, couldn't help myself. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: naum on January 14, 2005, 12:24:58 PM Rise of Nations is a great RTS, but seriously, the lure and appeal of RTS gaming just doesn't pull me in anymore -- I figure AoE III will be a next generation advance but it just doesn't excite me after years of Dune, C&C, Red Alert, AoE, TA, Kohan, Warcraft III, etc....
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: squire on January 14, 2005, 12:37:44 PM Dark and Light supposedly 4/30/05.
Anyone have any news on this game beyond their poorly maintained website? Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Signe on January 14, 2005, 01:46:07 PM I have talked to several people in the DnL beta test and the consensus is that they're not doing well at all. From what I understand the localised weather system that the developers bragged about and everyone was looking forward to seeing, doesn't work. If you are very clever and good at messing around with your settings, you can sometimes keep the game from continuously crashing... but you can't really do anything. I've been told the game is completely unstable in every way imaginable.
The devs answer no questions and give no guidance so what few testers are left are mostly confused. Some people have said they're in the 3rd phase of beta but I don't see how that is possible. It sounds to me as if they are in early Alpha... but who knows? I don't beleive that release date and I'm not even convinced this game is viable. Not good signs for a game that's been in development for about 4 years, I think. There is a nice list of games, this one included, that no one really cares about anymore. This is all speculation gathered from people I've never met. Maybe schild could attempt to talk to a developer, if he has any interest left in this game at all. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Sky on January 14, 2005, 01:49:50 PM Quote Rise of Nations is a great RTS, but seriously, the lure and appeal of RTS gaming just doesn't pull me in anymore I have a loathing of rts. I like to take my time and ponder moves, the genre is far too spastic imo. Brian Reynolds making RTS makes me curl up and cry myself to sleep every night. So much time wasted on the idiosyncrasies of AI units and other garbage like that. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Riggswolfe on January 14, 2005, 04:17:42 PM I enjoyed RTS at one time but now I can't think of an RTS I have finished in the last few years. Even the highly rated ones (Warcraft 3) just bore me eventually and I put them away.
I'm longing for a true, turn-based strategy game. I used to play alot of wargames (of the boardgame variety) and would love to see some of these. Is Dominion 2 a turnbased game? Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: sidereal on January 14, 2005, 04:48:43 PM Quote from: Riggswolfe I'm longing for a true, turn-based strategy game. I used to play alot of wargames (of the boardgame variety) and would love to see some of these. Depending on what you mean by 'strategy', you may enjoy Massive Assault. I did. It's at RTS scale but turn-based. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: schild on January 14, 2005, 08:17:34 PM Quote from: Signe This is all speculation gathered from people I've never met. Maybe schild could attempt to talk to a developer, if he has any interest left in this game at all. The game looks like a disaster. Once I hear good word I may garner up interest to chuck an email their way. Until good word, it seems like a big waste of time and manpower. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: naum on January 15, 2005, 05:47:30 PM Quote from: Riggswolfe I'm longing for a true, turn-based strategy game. I used to play alot of wargames (of the boardgame variety) and would love to see some of these. Is Dominion 2 a turnbased game? Yes. One of these days (been playing it over a year now...) I will writeup a full review, but here's one that gives it high marks, though not as glowing as me... http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/dominions_ii/default.asp If you're looking for glitzy state-of-art graphics, you'll be disappointed... If you desire a deep strategy game w/the best in TBS MP that I've seen to date, that goes even beyond Civ/HOMM series, this is the game. Hopefully, the clunky UI, game setup, and lack of professional artist quality will be addressed in Dominions 3… …there are lots of reasons not to like the game but if you like TBS, this game can draw you in… Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: JMQ on January 15, 2005, 05:56:12 PM Have you tried the Combat Mission games? A lot of grognards seem like them:
http://www.battlefront.com/index.htm Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Riggswolfe on January 15, 2005, 06:32:24 PM Looks interesting. I like the big deep stuff. Umm..hex based, stacks of units, takes forever to plan your moves. I also used to love Empire way back when. Simple graphics, fun game.
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: JMQ on January 15, 2005, 07:01:06 PM CMAK and CMBB (the two that I own) are isometric 3d. Don't expect eye-candy, though.
I understand CMBO is 2d tiles, but I've never played it. Dunno about the other ones. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Lum on January 15, 2005, 07:26:48 PM Quote from: Riggswolfe I enjoyed RTS at one time but now I can't think of an RTS I have finished in the last few years. Even the highly rated ones (Warcraft 3) just bore me eventually and I put them away. I'm longing for a true, turn-based strategy game. I used to play alot of wargames (of the boardgame variety) and would love to see some of these. Is Dominion 2 a turnbased game? Yes, but it's pretty different, and hard to get into. However it has a rabid fan following. You can download the demo from here: http://www.illwinter.com/dom2/index.html Be sure to read the walkthrough as it tells you how to play the demo. It's an acquired taste and one I never acquired, but others swear by it. Probably the best classic "counters and hexes" games right now are the Korsun Pocket series (in addition to its namesake, two other games in the series cover the Ardennes and Normandy). You can get info on KP here: http://www.korsunpocket.com/features.asp And it's not strictly turn-based (although you can hit the pause button whenever) but I'm currently going gaga over Hearts of Iron 2. I spewed a lot of words about it here: http://www.brokentoys.org/index.php?p=6634 Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Ray on January 15, 2005, 09:03:19 PM Quote from: Lum Quote from: Riggswolfe I enjoyed RTS at one time but now I can't think of an RTS I have finished in the last few years. Even the highly rated ones (Warcraft 3) just bore me eventually and I put them away. I'm longing for a true, turn-based strategy game. I used to play alot of wargames (of the boardgame variety) and would love to see some of these. Is Dominion 2 a turnbased game? Yes, but it's pretty different, and hard to get into. However it has a rabid fan following. You can download the demo from here: http://www.illwinter.com/dom2/index.html Be sure to read the walkthrough as it tells you how to play the demo. It's an acquired taste and one I never acquired, but others swear by it. Probably the best classic "counters and hexes" games right now are the Korsun Pocket series (in addition to its namesake, two other games in the series cover the Ardennes and Normandy). You can get info on KP here: http://www.korsunpocket.com/features.asp And it's not strictly turn-based (although you can hit the pause button whenever) but I'm currently going gaga over Hearts of Iron 2. I spewed a lot of words about it here: http://www.brokentoys.org/index.php?p=6634 korsun pocket is the bomb, yo. closest thing to panzer blitz I've played onb the pc. yo. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: schild on January 15, 2005, 09:05:39 PM Yo. We don't let other people talk like a jackass. We're not going to let you. Yo.
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Signe on January 16, 2005, 12:56:31 AM Quote from: schild Yo. We don't let other people talk like a jackass. We're not going to let you. Yo. (http://www.bedsfire.gov.uk/shout02/images/carfire.jpg) I thought I'd save Ray the trip. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: schild on January 16, 2005, 01:05:06 AM Quote from: Signe Quote from: schild Yo. We don't let other people talk like a jackass. We're not going to let you. Yo. [-carfire-] I thought I'd save Ray the trip. I like your new ottoman. As far as carfires go, I was driving down I95 about 6 months back and in the oppisite direction was a mack truck doing about 70. As it was going by me, the entire interior of the cab burst into flame. The guy had his windows down, and he pulled off to the side and ran out of the cab on fire. Needless to say, traffic was stopped and everyone and their mom was calling 911. Why do I know everyone was calling 911? The lady who picked up the phone told me. "Hi, I'm driving down 95 and there is a truck on the side of the road on fire. Oh, and the guy is flailing about as well. On fire." "Yes, we've received numerous calls" I'm going to stop this story. It's not really going anywhere. Point is: People dying in a carfire is one of the nastiest and saddest of deaths, but also one of the coolest looking deaths a person can go through. Nothing says rubbernecking like a human fireball. Next time you post image-slang, I'm going to tell an even longer story. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Signe on January 16, 2005, 01:11:22 AM Silly me. How was I do know that my kindness towards Ray would result in strange wibble from schild. I'll never do this again.
You can thank Paelos for my avatar. He punned me into it. Oh... and image-slang? You just made that up. Stop it! Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Comstar on January 16, 2005, 05:47:23 AM Quote from: Riggswolfe Looks interesting. I like the big deep stuff. Umm..hex based, stacks of units, takes forever to plan your moves. I also used to love Empire way back when. Simple graphics, fun game. Perhaps you'd be interested in Empire Deluxe Internet Edition (http://killerbeesoftware.com/kbsgames/ednew/). Just released, has a 40 minute demo you can play that's the full game. It has helo's, artiallry and nukes now, and can be played over the internet. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Murgos on January 16, 2005, 06:06:55 AM Isn't Empire available gratis on pretty much any linux distro?
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Righ on January 16, 2005, 06:45:31 PM Quote from: Murgos Isn't Empire available gratis on pretty much any linux distro? Maybe some hacked up version. You can have the real thing for free on Windows. Walter Bright's site (http://www.classicempire.com/) Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Murgos on January 16, 2005, 07:56:56 PM According to this (http://www.wolfpackempire.com/history.html) site a version was released with source code in 1998 under the GPL.
Doesn't look like a hacked up version according to that site. Considering that the 'original' was written in 1973ish I doubt very much that the one you linked to is the 'real' thing or that Peter Langstrom wrote it for DOS and certainly not for windows. Quote 1987: Walter Bright, author of an early version of Empire, posts a threatening message to rec.games.empire insisting that the name "Empire" not be used. (source, local copy). Walter had sold his rights to the game to Interstel, which is no longer in business. A record exists at the U.S. Copyright Office under document number TX-2-225-307 and under TXu-291-724. The latter document shows this version of Empire to have existed as of 1978. This version developed completely independent of the version of Empire discussed here. Walter Bright apparently didn't come along until later. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: SurfD on January 16, 2005, 10:51:45 PM Where's my Starcraft II bitches! And no, Ghost doesent count.
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: geldonyetich on January 16, 2005, 11:10:39 PM It hardly even counts to Blizzard - Ghost was nearly canceled once or twice.
I have to mirror some issues RTS. The Dune 2 GUI's been overplayed quite a bit, few innovate enough to justify buying the next RTS, and those who have innovated within the genre create games which suck a lot of time and leave me feeling unsatisfied afterwards. But then, not too many games really leave me feeling satisfied anymore. Though I've been accused of having poor gaming taste, I think it's just I've played so many games that I end up savoring this or that odd title from a strange idiosyncrasy in the game mechanic. For example, Neocron may be mediocre, but what it tries to achieve and the unusual way it presents the game is fascinating. If I'm such a fabulous gaming connoisseur, maybe I should try to make my own or something - put my mods where my mouth is, so to speak. I wonder if there's any good titles coming up this year that let us wannabe RPG game designers try our luck. Neverwinter Nights 2, now there's an anticipated game. Of 2006, though :P There's always the original NWN and Morrowind. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Righ on January 17, 2005, 01:21:16 AM Quote from: Murgos Walter Bright apparently didn't come along until later. Sounds to me like you are talking about what became Netrek, which is a very different game. Edit: nope, your reference is to the HP2000C Empire (came a year after the PLATO one). There are at least four distinct games by the same name. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Signe on January 17, 2005, 07:24:16 AM If I'm reading this right, there is no reason why I can not name my new 3 piece rock combo Led Zeppelin.
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: naum on January 17, 2005, 07:28:46 AM Many different incantations of "Empire"… …some similar, some totally different…
This is the one I was speaking of, the one that's survived since the 1970s… http://www.empire.cx/default.htm Quote It is a strategy wargame played by a number of people (usually between 4 and 100) on the internet connected to an Empire Server. If you've ever seen the game "Civilization", Empire is a lot like it, except it is more detailed, and of course multi-player. As the leader of a nation which consists of certain sectors on a large hexagonal grid, you decide (based on resources) what each sector's "designation" should be. This way, you obtain food, iron, gold, oil, uranium. You distribute these raw materials to factories to convert them into more useful things. You manage a civilian and slave populace for producing goods, and a military populace for defence and conquest. You also have the tricky job of balancing a budget. As the technology level of your country increases, you are able to build more and more advanced units: for example, in a typical game, at tech 0 you can build fishing boats and frigates, at tech 50 you can build planes, cruisers, and infantry, and by tech 300 you can build satellites, jet planes, and nuclear weapons. NOTE: rec.games.empire has nothing at all to do with the commercial PC games called "Empire Deluxe", "Ages of Empire", and "Empire Earth", nor the PC version of an old VAX classic called "Empire: Wargame of the Century" which came out in the 80's. The newsgroups microsoft.public.agesofempire alt.games.empire-deluxe and comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic concern themselves with games like these. However, people who enjoy those single-user games would certainly enjoy the multi-user kind of empire we play here even more! I haven't played in a few years, but I do remember there was a Win GUI client (originally you issued commands via telnet connection… …including printing the hexagon map display in raw ASCII…) Actually have played with the code of this one and the "Empire of the Century" (old VAX game)… …some of the comments in the code are pure hilarity… Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: HaemishM on January 17, 2005, 08:09:34 AM Quote from: Signe DNL Stuff.... There is a nice list of games, this one included, that no one really cares about anymore. I still care about it, in that I really hope they can pull off the stuff they promise. But I don't care enough to follow the development until they give me a beta slot. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Righ on January 17, 2005, 01:24:50 PM Quote from: naum Many different incantations of "Empire"… …some similar, some totally different… After reading more of these sites and downloading a couple of versions, the one I'm most familiar with actually owes more to PSL Empire since it was multi-player and had many of the features in the EmpireClassic/Wolfpack descriptions. I don't see the exact version in the timeline as it was pre-1986 on Unix. However, it did also get clobbered by Bright's name, just as the DECUS game did. Damn you Bright, the whole mess seems like a good reason for observing prior art in trades and service marks. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: schild on January 17, 2005, 05:19:30 PM (http://www.f13.net/schild/mcign.jpg)
I was going to watch and writeup my response to Gamespot's list of what they're anticipating in 2005, but I suddenly had the craving for a 1lb McGamespot Burger. Subliminal Advertising now'a'days is phenomenal. Anyone have a screencap of McIGN lying around? Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Windurst on January 17, 2005, 05:33:23 PM I'm looking forward to....
Xenosaga II Final Fantasy XII Dragon Warrior VII Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Aenovae on January 17, 2005, 06:35:15 PM I'm looking forward to...
POUND ONE Ahhh fuck get out of my brain! Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Margalis on January 17, 2005, 07:19:17 PM Ha ha I thought that screenshot was a photoshop job at first. I guess gamers a a whole aren't portly enough already.
There's no problem eating a 1 pound McDonald's burger, as long as you don't eat anything else for the next 2 days I suppose... Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Murgos on January 17, 2005, 07:23:14 PM I'm curious on the math there. Isn't a QPC a Quarter Pounder with Cheese? How does a Double quarter pound suddenly equal a full pound? Forgive my ignorance if there is a trivial answer but I haven't eaten in Mc'D's in years.
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Alkiera on January 17, 2005, 07:27:16 PM the fine print suggests the meat is 8oz before cooking...
I'm guessing the bread and other stuff also weighs 8oz. Alkiera Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: schild on January 17, 2005, 07:32:00 PM (http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/041116/041116_monsterTB.hmedium.jpg)
You don't know how good it is until you've had one. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: MrHat on January 17, 2005, 09:12:18 PM Quote from: schild (http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/041116/041116_monsterTB.hmedium.jpg) You don't know how good it is until you've had one. Looks dangerous. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Azaroth on January 17, 2005, 10:47:12 PM I'm not sure they should be able to legally serve shit like that. Aren't big macs terrible enough?
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Glazius on January 18, 2005, 05:42:44 AM Quote from: Azaroth I'm not sure they should be able to legally serve shit like that. Aren't big macs terrible enough? The entire point of the Monster Thickburger (pictured), in all its butter-flavored shortening glory, is to appeal to people who are sick and tired of fast food restaurants "wussifying" their menu. When a real man eats a burger, his arteries should harden from the _aroma_. --GF Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: HaemishM on January 18, 2005, 08:11:30 AM Jesus, that burger blocked my colon just looking at the picture. Fuck me, after eating that burger I'd feel like I tossed Elvis down my esophagus. And I don't mean the skinny, hip-shaking Elvis, I mean the corpulent, sequine-engorged, sweat-slick Elvis who could barely lift his own arm, much less sing.
And Gamespot... I just don't know what to say. I mean, there's making money and then there's OMFG GET YOURSELF A HAMBURGERNOWWOWTHEYARE THE GREATESTTHINGEVAR!1! EVAR!1! EVAR!1!!@!! Goddamnit, it's like Ronald McDonald took a great big golden arches dump all over the screen. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: MrHat on January 18, 2005, 08:54:09 AM It's really a shame too.
When McIGN put out their adverts for the McGriddle, I was made strangely hungry by the idea. This just makes me want to kill a cow and bury it so no one has to eat one. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Righ on January 18, 2005, 08:58:08 AM Parasitic organisms that kill off their host are rarely as successful as those who leave the host healthly enough to propagate the parasite. McDonalds could learn a thing or too from some of the most simple lifeforms.
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Paelos on January 18, 2005, 09:00:15 AM Yes that ad takes "A bit excessive" and then bitch-slaps it with a happy meal.
Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: WayAbvPar on January 18, 2005, 09:59:09 AM Quote from: Righ Parasitic organisms that kill off their host are rarely as successful as those who leave the host healthly enough to propagate the parasite. McDonalds could learn a thing or too from some of the most simple lifeforms. I'd be willing to bet that you could find all sorts of simple lifeforms in a McDonald's- in the food as well as behind the counter, running the fry machine, manning the drive-thru... Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Strazos on January 21, 2005, 08:24:26 PM Quote from: WayAbvPar I'd be willing to bet that you could find all sorts of simple lifeforms in a McDonald's- in the food as well as behind the counter, running the fry machine, manning the drive-thru... Heh, funny story: When I worked at Walgreens as the Photo Op for a few months, my buddy next door at Burger King was the manager, so after hours I would go over there while the kids were closing up and hang out in the office. We would just bs and stuff, and I even helped him count the store's cash deposits, just because I could. Anyway, one night I am over there, and there's this degenerate lady there, drunk. My buddy had to fire her, but he hates to fire people, so he let me do it. The funny part is that not only did she think I worked for BKcorp (with my blue lab coat and slacks/shirt/tie), she actually bought me firing her. Oh, and to stay on topic, I'm really waiting on Jade Empire. Imperator seems interesting also. Two things I didn't notice: Some form of TFC Source, TF2, or whatever you wanan call it. DNF (haha) Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: geldonyetich on January 22, 2005, 09:48:30 AM I have a paid account with Gamespot (which I regret because their reviews seem to be somewhat sparse these days) and I can tell you that I get absolutely no McDonald's PoundOne commercials.
In related news, now I have to try one. Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Sky on January 24, 2005, 12:50:57 PM Quote In related news, now I have to try one. yoda There is no try, there is only POUND! /yoda Title: Most Anticipated Games of 2005 Post by: Abel on January 24, 2005, 01:38:16 PM Quote Two things I didn't notice: Some form of TFC Source, TF2, or whatever you wanan call it. Actually there is a TFC conversion to the source engine in the works by a group of amateur moders. A team of players of the TFC community are tooling away at it, however it will still take a while I think. Valve had initially promised a TFC:S too (too lazy to dig up the old press release), but haven't heared anything about that in quite a while. The source conversion is called Fortress Forever, hopefully that ain't a bad omen. Anyhow, here is it's webby : http://www.fortress-forever.com./ |