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Not news, but Joystiq has a decent interview with Trent Reznor in which he discusses troubles he had trying to pitch a video game idea:


Oh good.

That was a really good interview.  The "b-side" questions (http://superdunner.blogspot.com/2009/09/trent-reznor-interview-lost-questions_24.html) are also a good read.

That interview made me suddenly not really like Reznor. Still like his music though.

Cool.. I always thought he wanted to be more involved, since he'd contribute music for various games and such (like one of the Quakes, I think). It's also a bummer that even he would run into so many problems.

Not to point out the obvious, but gaming truly is more and more like Hollywood... Trying to hold on to integrity is probably not the way to go if you want an A-list type of title. Maybe you have to play it like Hollywood. There was an actor (Clooney) who made a comment that it was next to impossible to get the movies he wanted made. Or rather, he said it was a miracle. And when he did, it took some selling out. Like "Hey, I'll two more Ocean's movies.. just help us out with this, this, and that." And.. it took some selling out for him to even be wanted around in the first place.

Why?  Just wondering. 

Yeah, I don't have an issue with the interview. The only thing I didn't like was him deciding not to put any more NiN content out for RB/GH.

Kinda tired of hearing people harken back to ye' olden days of Super Mario Bros/Pong/etc like that's when everything was fun and all this newfangled shit with the controllers that have more than 2 buttons stinks, like it's the first time anyone has said that before.

What a load of crock.

You can be four guys and make a great PC game. One of you need to be a decent programmer, one a decent artist, one a decent musician and the last a decent writer. If you master several disciplines, you can be fewer. You can self-publish it for basically no money, no financial risk. Will it be a huge success? That depends on how good you are.

What he's asking, the self-entitled twat, is that any two guys that are able to come up with an idea they think is great should have their game made. Nothing has ever worked that way. You want shit built but can't afford to cough up the dough to get it built for you, you have to do it yourself. That leaves you with a choice - putting enormous effort into learning what you need and eventually doing it yourself, or getting the fuck out. Sitting in interviews and bitching about how the Big Bad Company isn't listening to every flight of fantasy that gets thrown at them is fucking childish.

Trent Reznor is hardly a poor man, now is he? He can start his own fucking studio if the idea is that awesome and guaranteed instant success. It's not like it's a financial risk then, is it?

This. Entirely.

First mistake was going to companies that don't feel like they needed the "Big IP/awareness" of NIN. Second mistake was going to companies that don't feel like they need outside ideas at all. And third mistake was going in with just an idea at all.

Save that crap for the forums  :grin:

I hope he does do it that way I can be secure in the knowledge that, say, Bill Leeb could do it better.

Love him, sad to see the end of NIN, like his game ideas.  I think this is great, actually.


Did you mean to say "what a pile of heap?" 

About looking for money... first rule of Money Club - Don't use your own money!!

Absolutely. I love heaps of piles. Mmm. Piles! There's so much you can do with piles.

Yikes!  We've gone from shit to hemorrhoids!  We're in a rut.  Or maybe a hole!

:facepalm:

You missed the part though where he said that the smaller games don't compete with the big EA "blockbuster" shit. He acknowledged the indie route though. I think he was just trying to say that he wanted to make something A-list production value wise (for lack of a better way to put it), but also be original in the gameplay like an indie game can be. And I don't think he necessarily said he could do that himself.. But that that is what he really wanted to see more of in general.

Or I could just be reading too much into it.

You outdid yourself there.  Brava! Auteur! Auteur!

What a crock of load.

Haberdashery.

Just taking us further down the spiral.