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So yeah.  Rob someone in broad daylight, right in front of a cop.  Then run and they are forbidden to chase you.

Awesome! (http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2009/09/22/dnt.sc.no.foot.chase.wspa)

She seems professional.

God bless you!

lol irl :awesome_for_real:

The idiots who elected her deserve it.

It makes me want to mug her and run. :awesome_for_real:

That video has to be watched.

Madea has some words for their Mayor.

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Holy shit that is a lot of stupid.

Well fuck me. I hate to have to take the time to travel all that way to rob a bank, but if thats what it takes.

Clearly the police will have circumvent this new directive by mounting all their officers on Segways in order to pursue suspects.

Wow.

What the fuck was she going on about 'welfare' for? It was hard to make out due to her being screechy, having a dense accent and not being very coherent but she was warbling on about something to do with welfare and how the reporter had a story about a woman on welfare. What's up with that?

Good grief. I couldn't figure out what was more worthy of a giant-sized facepalm, the suggestion of not allowing any chases whatsoever, or the "god bless you, you got your story, you got your story, may god bless you" warble.

Reminded me more of the village weirdo from back when I was a kid, not someone in power.

1. What the fuck is with South Carolina?

2. Note she said it was due to insurance. Expect to see more wackiness like this as health care, insurance and liability continue to spiral out of control.

We had a mental patient destroy several shelves of books and DVDs and weren't able to touch him due to liability issues. He started beating his female handler and we were advised we'd be placed under arrest (by the other female handler) if we restrained him. One of the toughest days I've had here, because I almost went to jail and lost my job to stop a retard from beating up a woman.

Liability issues?  How does that all work out?  He was harming another human being, what possible issue would there be in restraining him?

Hallelujah! May God bless you!

Huh? How were you going to be arrested in NY State for stopping someone who is actively engaged in assaulting another person?

Awesome. She's ready to move up to Congress, don't waste her genius on a small town.

They were saying something about him being under their care and some special case, I have no idea. When the caregiver tells you to step off and then your boss agrees, you step off. If you want to continue working at that job.

If the caregiver being assaulted told me to back off, okay, maybe.  I'm not sure I'd accept it from someone on the sidelines.  (Of course there's probably not much I could do, either.)

Yeah, she was also telling people to back off. It was crazy.

Sure there is. You put it on TV and show the whole country what an ignorant fucknut she is. Having a TV camera helps.

It's so rare to see someone who doesn't know how to conduct themselves in a proper manner on TV.

Oh, wait, I forgot we have reality television.  :oh_i_see:

Difference there is, they're paid for it. Maybe not generously, but they're at least paid specifically for that role.

Question is, is this going to affect her political career at all?

If it doesn't then it just goes to show how democracy doesn't work due to the amount of morons voting.

I mean seriously, if people vote for her after seeing 1) how she conducted herself or 2) the retarded decree that she passed down to the  police department (are Mayors even authorized to give that kind of ruling down to the police force?) then I don't know what to say.

Palin/Peake 2012

This may have been answered already but she was saying "WELFORD" which is the name of the town. Other than that, yeah, what a fucking pyscho dumbass.

Disclaimer: I don't know what NY state law on the matter is.

I will say that his staff are poorly trained or incompetent if he managed to assault one of them.  As a rule, if you get to the point where you need to restrain your patient, you've already fucked up bad.  That's coming from someone who teaches restraint (and more importantly, how to not have to need it in the first place.) 

Restraining someone is dangerous for both of you.  Generally speaking, it shouldn't be done unless it's more dangerous not to restrain someone.  People can and do die from improper restraint, and if you're not trained to do it then it's better to leave them the hell alone if all they're doing is destroying property.  For your own sake as well as theirs--you're much more likely to get injured than they are (although they tend to receive more severe injury)

Do call the police if you like, though.  He's liable for the damages he's done.

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Mayors are generally in charge of the police force, though usually they appoint a chief of police to handle normal affairs.  The mayor will become involved in large enough issues.  They have discretion to tell officers how to perform their duties as long as they are not asking their officers to violate a law.

So would it be breaking the law for an officer to let a crime occur without interfering? Aiding and Abetting?

No, as decided by the US Supreme Court police officers are under no legal obligation to stop a crime in process.

That strikes me as stupid. Just stupid.

WTF? Really?

I mean off-duty I can see that. But when they are on duty as well?

I guess (I don't know the extent of the ruling) that it's so that police officers who witness a crime being committed by a large gang of armed villains aren't breaking the law by not rushing to certain death. Or that undercover officers can't be prosecuted for witnessing a crime that they didn't prevent so as not to blow their cover.

Thinking about it, I'm not sure why it should be a law that police have to prevent crimes. It's their job, let failure to do their work be handled by internal discipline rather than the courts.

Id imagine its so that victims of the witnessed crime can't sue the shit out of a police officer who did nothing? I have a lurking suspicion that the mayor was also the escaped crack head in the story.

I would think that the reasoning behind it is so that officers are free to use their judgement and allowed to consider the safety of everyone invloved.  I can think of many a hghly charged confrontational situation where if I were the victim the last thing I would want is Barney Fife rolling in all half cocked and ready for action.  Unfortunately this mayor seems to have gone to the opposite end of this argument by telling the policy that instead of using their own judgement they are forbidden to pursue the criminal.

Also, IIRC she did say pursue not intervene, so chases are out but they are allowed to intervene in other ways.  Sounds like an extension of many existing policies that say you do not instigate a high speed car chase.  If she was able to express herself intelligently maybe there would be a defensible point in there somewhere.

It sounds like there were a number of injuries sustained during foot chases by officers so she responded by banning them from chasing suspects on foot because it was affecting the department's insurance premiums. She could have made an argument that the department's officers had proved incapable of correctly juding risks to themselves and others or that this was a temporary measure until there had been further skills reviews or training (probably bullshit but at least it sounds sane). Instead she just went full retard.

Also giving officers leeway in terms of whether they have to intervene in a crime means that police officers aren's spending all their time issuing tickets for minor problems with people's cars or homes or taking down names for any of a host of pointless violations people commit in a normal day. If police officers were liable for failing to prosecute every crime they saw they would spend a lot of their time dealing with small and pointless shit and generally pissing everyone off.

Full-retards are largely immune to consequences of any and all of their actions.  Just talk to a special ed teacher and they'll have several tales of horror about acts performed by the retarded kids, which the teachers were forbidden to stop.  Half-retards will totally get the chair at the drop of a hat, but if someone's blatantly mentally crippled, they get carte blanche to do whatever.

Yes, on duty as well. Woman was beaten and robbed in a late night clothes laundromat. Two cops were outside and for whatever reason did not intervene or stop it. She sued. Case went to Supreme Court. She lost.
This was one of two cases before the USC dealing with the same topic IIRC.

Thats unexcusable. Sorry, but your judical system sucks! Thats exactly what the police is there for!

Should've gone to jail for gross criminal negligence imo. This is, in fact, the definition of it. This places cops above the law and I have a personal problem with that.

Edit: Actually, since she wasn't murdered it's probably just criminal negligence. The fact they still managed to get away with not helping is utterly repulsive and indicative of deeper problems really.

At the very least, I hope the two cops in question were fired for not doing their fucking jobs.

If it went to the supreme court, it means it was appealed at least twice. Which means they lost 3 times, unless we're talking about the supreme court of whatever state. Which means they almost assuredly lost their job to save face for whatever shitass police department they worked for. But it also means they had friends, because I can't think of the worst kind of weasel anywhere that would defend a cop that would do that, and I'm generally as cynical as they come.

It wasn't necessarily three losses.  Either side can appeal.

IIRC the case was they were doing their jobs; ie they were on a stake out and therefore could not compromise their surveillance to help out.

And please keep in mind Im not saying I agree with what happened, just reporting the case FYI as I remember it.

That's a great argument for a movie but not a great one for the well-being of the American people.