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Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Raph on December 29, 2004, 02:56:32 PM
I have a Wikipedia entry. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raph_Koster

And only one mistake on it!


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: stray on December 29, 2004, 02:58:57 PM
Whether people love you or hate you, you really deserve more than just four lines :)


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Signe on December 29, 2004, 03:14:03 PM
First you are just some guy who makes games, then some big wig with SOE, then a published author and now this!  

I'm riveted to my chair, anxiously waiting for what comes next.  But gratz, Raph... it's a pretty cool thing, actually.

PS  You didn't make it yourself, did you?


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: WayAbvPar on December 29, 2004, 03:17:10 PM
Grats, Raph. I also think more than 4 lines are deserved- they didn't even get to your aliases like Holocron or DD!


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Shockeye on December 29, 2004, 03:20:35 PM
And you're listed right before this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael_%28Ninja_Turtle%29).


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: SirBruce on December 29, 2004, 03:33:14 PM
Umm, you people *are* aware anyone can make their own Wikipedia entry, right?  Not that I'm accusing Raph of doing it himself, but I'm just saying...

Too bad Snowspinner is an Administrator there.

Bruce


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: stray on December 29, 2004, 03:42:26 PM
Quote from: SirBruce
Umm, you people *are* aware anyone can make their own Wikipedia entry, right?  Not that I'm accusing Raph of doing it himself, but I'm just saying...


No, I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for enlightening me, Bruce.

Sorry, we're all just noobs at teh Internet, never heard of Wikipedia before, and failed to notice "Welcome to Wikipedia, a free-content encyclopedia that anyone can edit" on the front page.

I wonder why Raph would intentionally put an inaccuracy in it though. To make it seem more "authentic"?

Quote
Too bad Snowspinner is an Administrator there.

Bruce


Is he?


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Raph on December 29, 2004, 03:48:07 PM
Heh, no, I didn't make it myself. That's against Wikipedia rules anyway--you aren't supposed to write about yourself on it.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Murgos on December 29, 2004, 03:53:29 PM
Quote from: SirBruce
Too bad Snowspinner is an Administrator there...


Well, there goes the wikipedia as a trustworthy info source, now I am going to have to check everything I read on there with second source.  Snowspinner is the guy who admitted to makeing up numbers for entries in an encylopedia he worked for.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Raph on December 29, 2004, 03:58:36 PM
Quote from: Murgos
Well, there goes the wikipedia as a trustworthy info source


What with the various page wars, I thought everyone took Wikipedia with a grain of salt.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Big Gulp on December 29, 2004, 04:17:06 PM
What I want to know is, how much of an egomaniac do you have to be to run your own name through Wiki?  =P


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Raph on December 29, 2004, 04:19:00 PM
Heh. Actually, I've been googling the book title and my name a lot over the holiday to find reviews.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Big Gulp on December 29, 2004, 04:37:42 PM
Quote from: Raph
Heh. Actually, I've been googling the book title and my name a lot over the holiday to find reviews.


I can imagine.  From what I've gathered from C-Span this seems to pretty much be a compulsive addiction for most authors.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Signe on December 29, 2004, 05:36:33 PM
Did your wife write it, Raph?  I've told Righ that until he writes a nice one about me that he can just google himself every night, too.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: HaemishM on December 29, 2004, 05:38:24 PM
Quote from: Raph
Quote from: Murgos
Well, there goes the wikipedia as a trustworthy info source


What with the various page wars, I thought everyone took Wikipedia with a grain of salt.


What with the various flavors of rampant bullshit out there, I thought everyone took the Internet with a truckload of salt.

Grats on pop culture immortality, and stop Googling. Start noodling.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: WindupAtheist on December 29, 2004, 09:18:43 PM
If the entry should be expanded to include...

"Raph Koster is responsible for most of what's good in massively multiplayer online games, as well as most of what fucking sucks about them, and is doomed to be both adored and reviled for all eternity!"

...well, I shall deny everything...


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: MrHat on December 29, 2004, 10:03:14 PM
Quote from: Signe
Did your wife write it, Raph?  I've told Righ that until he writes a nice one about me that he can just google himself every night, too.


Hahahaha.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Hanzii on December 30, 2004, 01:10:49 AM
Quote from: Signe
Did your wife write it, Raph?  I've told Righ that until he writes a nice one about me that he can just google himself every night, too.


Fantastic.
Add the old cliché of coke spurting from noses onto screens and keyboards... if I was drinking a coke, which I'm not, and if I laughed out loud, which I hardly do. But it was jolly funny.

And Raph, considering the pagewars on Wikipedia is this really the right community to point towards your entry?
I can just see the minute by minute changes in the definition of PvP, which this could lead to.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: d4rkj3di on December 30, 2004, 11:43:02 AM
Seems someone else has their own wiki entry...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Bruce


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: HaemishM on December 30, 2004, 11:46:44 AM
GOLD, JERRY! GOLD!


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: shiznitz on December 30, 2004, 11:50:44 AM
If that last name is accurate, then there must be a divine intelligence.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: d4rkj3di on December 30, 2004, 11:56:28 AM
I guess the second sentence of the entry in which he was described as "a self-serving, sanctimonius, Fuckardian prick who would best serve the interests of mankind by smothering inside his furry suit" got edited out.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: SirBruce on December 30, 2004, 12:13:59 PM
Please don't vandalize wikipedia; it's immature and annoys the people who try to use it for actual work.

Bruce


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Shockeye on December 30, 2004, 12:17:40 PM
Quote from: SirBruce
Please don't vandalize wikipedia; it's immature and annoys the people who try to use it for actual work.

People who try to use it for "real work" need to get a "real job" with "real resources". And yes, this is a "real reply" from someone who has a "real job" who would NEVER use Wikipedia as a "real resource".


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: sidereal on December 30, 2004, 12:22:58 PM
Yes, I was just doing some actual work and the totally unrelated SirBruce entry has completely screwed things up.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: geldonyetich on December 30, 2004, 12:35:39 PM
A lot of people say they'd prefer Encyclopedia Britannica over the Wikipedia because they trust the credibility of those who work on the Britannica more.  

Personally, I think the Wikipedia rocks.  Considering it's open-source, the data there is reported surprisingly responsibly and it covers a far wider range of topics than any encyclopedia I know.   Only on the Wikipedia can you look up pop culture items such as "grok" or the definitions of bizarre sex acts.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: SirBruce on December 30, 2004, 12:51:47 PM
Quote from: Shockeye
Quote from: SirBruce
Please don't vandalize wikipedia; it's immature and annoys the people who try to use it for actual work.

People who try to use it for "real work" need to get a "real job" with "real resources". And yes, this is a "real reply" from someone who has a "real job" who would NEVER use Wikipedia as a "real resource".


Yes, but "good judgement" has never been your "strong suit".

Bruce


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: d4rkj3di on December 30, 2004, 01:00:51 PM
So the "self-serving, sanctimonious, Fucktardian prick" part was accurate?  'Tis a shame it was removed.

And Bruce, as long as you have been around, do you really think that asking people on the internet to stop being immature vandals was going to get a favorable response?  Mayhaps "naive" should have been inserted between "Fucktardian" and "prick".


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Shockeye on December 30, 2004, 01:03:01 PM
Quote from: SirBruce
Yes, but "good judgement" has never been your "strong suit".

You're right, seeing as how I'm the only mod/admin here who even tries to defend you or allow you to be here.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Signe on December 30, 2004, 01:18:33 PM
Quote from: Shockeye
Quote from: SirBruce
Yes, but "good judgement" has never been your "strong suit".

You're right, seeing as how I'm the only mod/admin here who even tries to defend you or allow you to be here.


Are you trying to draw aggro?


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Shockeye on December 30, 2004, 01:23:04 PM
Quote from: Signe
Quote from: Shockeye
Quote from: SirBruce
Yes, but "good judgement" has never been your "strong suit".

You're right, seeing as how I'm the only mod/admin here who even tries to defend you or allow you to be here.


Are you trying to draw aggro?

AOE Taunt.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Lum on December 30, 2004, 01:43:15 PM
Ack! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lum_the_Mad)


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Xilren's Twin on December 30, 2004, 01:50:54 PM
Quote from: Lum
Ack! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lum_the_Mad)


Alright, who removed the comment "sold out for bagels".

Xilren


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: SirBruce on December 30, 2004, 02:31:11 PM
Quote from: d4rkj3di
And Bruce, as long as you have been around, do you really think that asking people on the internet to stop being immature vandals was going to get a favorable response?  Mayhaps "naive" should have been inserted between "Fucktardian" and "prick".


"Forgiving" and "optimistic" are more accurate.  I believe in giving people 2nd, and 3rd, etc. chances to prove they've actually matured.

Bruce


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: SirBruce on December 30, 2004, 02:32:01 PM
Quote from: Shockeye
Quote from: SirBruce
Yes, but "good judgement" has never been your "strong suit".

You're right, seeing as how I'm the only mod/admin here who even tries to defend you or allow you to be here.


You know the old saying, "Even a broken watch is right twice a day."

Bruce


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: SirBruce on December 30, 2004, 02:33:47 PM
Quote from: Lum
Ack! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lum_the_Mad)


Originally written by Technogeek, even.

Bruce


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Raph on December 30, 2004, 02:51:02 PM
No fair, I thought this thread was about me!

*grumble*


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Raph on December 30, 2004, 02:53:29 PM
Hmm, Lum's entry is nicer than mine. :P It has links and stuff. And no errors that I can see.

No fair.

You wrote it yourself, didn't you.

*duck*


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Signe on December 30, 2004, 05:49:06 PM
Dev Fight!

(I hope they slap each other silly)


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: schild on December 30, 2004, 06:10:22 PM
Bruce, you made a thread that was very obviously about Raph be about yourself. You're fucking gone. Good riddance.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: WindupAtheist on December 31, 2004, 02:17:01 AM
Fursuit gets himself banned in a thread started by Raph to fight with Lum over who has the better Wikipedia entry, and I declare it the greatest thread in the history of the internet.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Signe on December 31, 2004, 05:23:49 AM
Quote from: schild
The Furry Who Shall Not Be Named, you made a thread that was very obviously about Raph be about yourself. You're fucking gone. Good riddance.


Oh dear.  This is the time of year for love and charity, you know.  You should, at least, give him that red name before you send him packing.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Raph on December 31, 2004, 10:27:17 AM
Uh, no offense, but that has to be the flimsiest excuse for a banning that I've ever seen. I thought this whole thread was just in good fun.

Now you've gone and spoiled Christmas!!!!


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: schild on December 31, 2004, 10:41:58 AM
Just because you're the face of a company doesn't mean you have to be nice. If I posted the conversation between Bruce and I, you wouldn't call it a flimsy excuse. He's been teetering on the edge of being banned for a long time. This was just icing.

You should know that not everything is revealed all the time. Some things are just better off left unsaid.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Roac on December 31, 2004, 10:46:44 AM
Quote from: schild
The Furry Who Shall Not Be Named, you made a thread that was very obviously about Raph be about yourself. You're fucking gone. Good riddance.


Crap, and people call me an anal mod.  And by people I mean Raph, because we're only talking about him here.

Hmm.  Someone needs to update Raph's Wiki entry to note that he trolled the nets ugliest troll into banhood.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Signe on December 31, 2004, 10:55:39 AM
It's the start of a new year.  It's time for confession and resolutions.  Couldn't Bruce just say he's sorry and resolve never to be himself again?  

Where is Paelos?  I'm not qualified to argue the Christian side.

Edit:  I see he's not himself anymore, anyway.  Nice job!


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: stray on December 31, 2004, 11:02:34 AM
Quote from: Roac
Quote from: schild
The Furry Who Shall Not Be Named, you made a thread that was very obviously about Raph be about yourself. You're fucking gone. Good riddance.


Crap, and people call me an anal mod.  And by people I mean Raph, because we're only talking about him here.


Damn, schild bans the Furry Who Shall Not Be Named and all of a sudden he isn't a nice guy? The fact that it took this long shows that he's much more fair than most.

Anyways....Raph: A Theory of Fun or Jump to Lightspeed? I can only buy one. What would you suggest? :)


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Shockeye on December 31, 2004, 11:03:03 AM
Quote from: Signe
Where is Paelos?  I'm not qualified to argue the Christian side.

Neither is Paelos.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: HaemishM on December 31, 2004, 01:35:13 PM
Quote from: Signe
It's the start of a new year.  It's time for confession and resolutions.  Couldn't The Furry Who Shall Not Be Named just say he's sorry and resolve never to be himself again?  


That's been done before, and he has proven it UNPOSSIBLE.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: sidereal on December 31, 2004, 02:06:29 PM
Can I simultaneously think it isn't Bruce's fault and it's still a good idea?

He's like the mosquito bite you guys can't stop scratching.  90% of the threads derailed by Bruce are derailed because someone else tried to make a tired joke about Bruce and how he derails threads.  Seriously.  Stop scratching.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Riggswolfe on December 31, 2004, 03:16:38 PM
Have I stumbled into another universe? People are taking up for TFWSNBN? (too lazy to type it all)


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Shockeye on December 31, 2004, 03:35:31 PM
Quote from: Riggswolfe
Have I stumbled into another universe? People are taking up for TFWSNBN? (too lazy to type it all)

Actually you don't have to type it. It's a word censor. Just type, you know, the original name and it'll automagically change it for you.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Lum on December 31, 2004, 06:40:17 PM
Quote from: schild
You should know that not everything is revealed all the time. Some things are just better off left unsaid.


Yeah, Raph wouldn't know anything about users being banned from a community!


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: Raph on December 31, 2004, 07:31:22 PM
Hoist by my own petard.

Digression: at work recently we had a discussion about the fact that Morse code was no longer taught, and that soon nobody would remember why dit dit dit dot dot dot dit dit dit meant "help!" That led us to a hunting expendition for phrases that used to mean something but no longer do but we use out of habit.

For example, "red letter day" -- the day when letterpress printers would do the second pass on their books and print all the big initial caps at the start of chapters in red ink. Since there was a lot less of this to do, it was a special day.

Uh, what is the direct reference for hoist by my own petard? Sounds like Shakespeare, so I ought to know it, dammit.


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: stray on December 31, 2004, 08:49:43 PM
It's from Hamlet.

"For 'tis sport to have the engineer
Hoist with his own petard"

Apparently, "petard" is "bomb" in French. Specifically, an archaic explosive device that was used to blow through city walls and gates.

Hamlet used the phrase in jest, reflecting about those who plotted against him, and how he would lay the "bomb" (petard) they'd set up for him, right under their own asses.

"But I will delve one yard below their mines
And blow them at the moon."

So yeah, it's one of those words that has no meaning outside the phrase itself. But then again, maybe the French still use it. I'd be interested to know the French equivalents for words like "grenade" or "landmine".


Title: I feel like I've made it!
Post by: HaemishM on January 01, 2005, 01:49:48 AM
Why do I get the image of yon great bard saying "Someone set us up the bomb!"