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Me too.

Are you playing other people when you play the TOP 50?

The ones with "destroy" for a couple mana are insane. The poison spear is likewise insane.

Why are rainbow decks good for farming false gods?

Those are all upgraded cards. I can't imagine how long it takes to get them  :ye_gods:.

Quantum towers + Supernova + Drawing Cards = completely OP.

The mana (uh sorry, quantums) and cards to completely overwhelm any opponent. Short of a killer combo (which are hard to find/generate in this game w/o card drawing anyway) whoever has more cards wins.

Edit: The first deck I tried playing with in the trainer was similar to this. Except I forgot to put any creatures and only used the copy creature card. My first top 50 opponent had a deck consisting of 29 towers and one weapon.

That link has almost zero upgraded cards.

Sorry, the picture was full of upgraded cards  :awesome_for_real:.

Anyways, you don't have that much choice against the elder gods. As they've all got a brick wall's worth of HP/ retarded shields  you're basically forced to play a long-term deck. The shield which only allows creatures with toughness < 5 to attack is a real pain.

My mark is TIME


VITAL CARDS

Quantum Pillar x 17
You need this to get quantum, Einstein!

Sundial x 6
The most crucial card in this deck as you will get to draw cards AND enemies won't attack you for one round! Very good card during early rounds survival mode.

Golden Hourglass x 4
Another very good card that enables you to draw more cards. This card should be upgraded first because upgrading halves the cost of drawing an extra card which can be the difference between life and death.

Dimensional Shield x 4
Without this card you have zero chance. Makes you invincible for 3 turns which is really important during early game.

Steal x 3
Awesome card. One of the key cards that make this deck so versatile. Can be used to take opponents weapons and shields and used against them! Remember you are playing a rainbow deck so you can use whatever the opponent has. It's very important to know your enemy and know what cards to steal.

Bone Wall x 2
Even better than Dimensional Shield if there are only a couple of hard hitting enemy characters. Main advantage is that enemies has to destroy it one piece of wall at a time which can take a while (Dimensional Shield can be removed with only one card). When people start to die, Wall gets bigger and bigger and once it reaches about 20+, you cannot lose.

Boneyard x 1
Raises those nice little Skeletons which don't do much damage but help you stay alive if you have Empathic Bond up. Skeletons are also good for damaging opponents Bone Wall. Try to upgrade this card early.

Firefly Queen x 2
Strong character that can summon Fireflies which help to heal you (with Empathic Bond) or raise skeletons when they die. Fireflies also do pretty decent damage, especially when Firefly Queen is upgraded.

Empathic Bond x 2
Keeps you alive when you have a bunch of Skeletons and Fireflies running around.

Otyugh x 2
My favorite character. If you get this guy on the table early and feed him a couple of enemies, you will most likely win. Otyugh just keeps eating everything you throw at him. Try to upgrade this card early.

Mind Flayer x 1
Awesome crowd control character. Try to update this card early to get more HP.

Rain of Fire x 1
Great card in many situations. Take it. Very good against Incarnate, Scorpio, Morte and Fire Queen. But helps with almost against all False Gods.


GOOD CARDS

Eagle's Eye x 1
This is the weapon I like to use because it helps in many different situations. But don't worry if you don't have it, other weapons work too. Like the green weapon which heals you, or the one that removes skills. Just avoid using those basic weapons if you have other options.

Nova x 6
Excellent in early game, useless in endgame. I've played with this card and without it. It all depends how you draw it. Upgrade is not necessary since standard version costs nothing and is very good in your opening hand. But once you get that 2 purple quantums, upgraded version is awesome.

Maxwell's Demon x 1
Situational card. Sometimes great, other times not so great.

Lava Golem x 1
Great when you can get it on the table early. Helps kill those annoying Miracle using False Gods faster. Doesn't help you stay alive longer so this is the first card I would replace if I had to.


*OPTIONAL CARDS

There are many other cards that work well with this build. I chose the above ones because of personal preference. You might want to change something.

Miracle
If you have this card, take it. Congratulations! Your winning percentage just went up 15%! Great against Scorpio and his poison spamming.

Fallen Elf
This is a great addition to the deck because mutants can have all kinds of fun skills which you can use. I dropped Lava Destroyer and took this one instead and it's working pretty well. Not only is it effective but it is also a lot of fun. Only problem is that it uses green quantum which is already in heavy use.

Purify
Might save you from Scorpio and helps with Morte. Only problem is that it's useless against all other 9 Gods. But then again 1 useless card is not that bad because you draw multiple each turn.

Dissipation Shield
If you use this during endgame when you have tons of quantum, you cannot be killed. Unless they remove it of course. I don't use it because it's useless during early rounds when you are most vulnerable.

If you let poison last any longer than eight or ten rounds, you're pretty much toast.

I started over to try something else, stacking Boneyards with Otyughs and Vultures is fuuuuuuucked up.

Then you come across an opponent with a fireshield then they all die or a shield that reduces all damage by 1 point and they're all useless.  Or someone who runs rain of fire, thunderstorm or plague.

You need nightfalls at least.

Sundials and dimensional shields seem to stop damage for one turn less than advertised, is that a bug?

Playing this game reminds me why I could never get into Magic.  Too many RAWRGH BULLSHIT moments.  I do keep going back to it though.

Playing this game reminds me why I could never get into Magic.  Too many RAWRGH BULLSHIT moments.  I do keep going back to it though.

What happens when you get to the end of a deck?  I think it's happened to me a couple times.  I think somebody loses.  But when you lose it just goes to the YOU LOSE screen, and I can never remember to look how many cards I have.  So I don't know if it's me running out of cards that made me lose, or the other guy.

What's annoying is that whenever I try to emulate the bullshit I see in some of the AI decks (like the abilities that let them kill all my dudes as soon as I put them up) it never seems to work out for me.  My latest experiment was with scarabs, but the problem with them seems to be getting enough of them on the table at once that they can start eating things.  I might try a gravity deck with otyughs next.

Stacking my rainbow deck with draw cards has completely broken the game. A limit on how many of those cards you can active at one time seems almost mandatory.

The AI really sucks at playing those decks, most of the top 50 use them and every time i play them i just gotta turtle up and they run out of cards.  Even with sundials and electrum hour glasses some of the false gods are incredibly hard unless you also have a shit ton of upgraded quantum towers.

Eh, that's about par for most web games.

On the topic of automation, it occurred to me that building a deck could be a good task for a genetic algorithm.  Have a bunch of AIs with a bunch of different decks play each other, duplicate the winning decks plus or minus a card, repeat.

When are we going to do an f13 CCG?  Schild, you know you want it.

So I dumped the HTTP packets from the game with a plan to cobble together some kind of AI to play my deck for me since most moves are automatic and it gets tedious.  It turns out that absolutely none of the game is server-side.  The client just updates the server every once in a while telling it how much gold you have now, what your score is, and what cards you have.  Nice work.  It would be about half an hour's labor to write a script to just update the server every once in a while telling it you won a bunch of games and have a bunch more money.  It's probably even possible to just pick the cards you want and have them, depending on how eagle-eyed the developers is/are about looking at improbable deltas.  And I'm pretty sure a good chunk of the leaderboard is already doing it, given some of the astronomical stats they show when I decide to play a top 50.

Certainly kills my enthusiasm.

In theory you can get them for free by beating top 50 decks and spinning for them, but I haven't gotten any that way.

You cant receive the upgraded versions from PVP or false god slot machines?

I don't get how y'all can stand doing this.

As soon as I saw how you gained/upgraded cards and that at a high level rainbow beats everything I couldn't be bothered to play anymore  :uhrr:.

I don't get how y'all can stand doing this.

As soon as I saw how you gained/upgraded cards and that at a high level rainbow beats everything I couldn't be bothered to play anymore  :uhrr:.

Im not really into TCG's how do other games limit the advantage of rainbow decks? Not have rainbow mana generators or gimp their output?

I don't see how the rainbow deck is good for anything other than beating the AI.  I beat it regularly in pvp and vs the top50 decks with a mono deck.  Its good for god grinding because of the massive defenses it has, thats all.