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Title: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Viin on August 13, 2009, 10:16:05 AM
So, my wife wants something in the kitchen that she can use to save (scan preferrably, or type) receipes she gets from magazines as well as look up stuff on the 'Net.

From my little research I see a couple of options:

1) A Kindle - seems like it might work, but a bit pricey if all you are going to do is look at recipes on it once a week - plus I don't care for all the issues the newer Kindles seem to have. Nice portability and we can also use it when we travel for regular reading materials.

2) A Netbook - this might be the best option, though I need to do a bit more research on recipe cataloging/searching software. My concerns come from the price (which can be a bit spend), and the size. Since it has to be plugged in I have less options for where it can live in the kitchen.

3) An iPhone - I found a couple apps that let you input your own recipes and even one that lets you take a picture of it, and this may end up being the easiest option. (She already has an iPhone and the app is $2).

What do you use? Any particular setup you like or don't like?


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Ookii on August 13, 2009, 10:25:52 AM
For the kitchen?  You have to get an Apple!

Corny jokes aside I use my iPhone.  I'm always pulling stuff of of the web so I just leave the browser open and go at it.  If she scans in stuff I would just keep it on your computer and then airshare it to the iPhone on demand.

The best solution would be to mod an old laptop into a photoframe and mount it somewhere, then you'd have a self-contained flat unit with a great resolution.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Murgos on August 13, 2009, 10:40:45 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_316


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Viin on August 13, 2009, 11:00:11 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_316

I'm totally gonna send that to her.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Numtini on August 13, 2009, 11:03:11 AM
The kindle's browser is really mediocre and the keyboard is next to useless. I'd suggest a cheap netbook. If you don't want to pay a ton of money per month for an iphone, isn't there a ipod version that's the iphone without the phone? Use that with wifi?


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: NiX on August 13, 2009, 11:25:23 AM
Netbook seems to be your best option, they're no more expensive than buying an iphone and paying the monthly fee for it. Cheaper even! I'm sure you can find some kind of indexing software or teach her how to be REALLY good with Excel. Also, my friends netbook has some insane battery life on it, so needing to be plugged in all the time is not really the case.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Trippy on August 13, 2009, 11:34:20 AM
The kindle's browser is really mediocre and the keyboard is next to useless. I'd suggest a cheap netbook. If you don't want to pay a ton of money per month for an iphone, isn't there a ipod version that's the iphone without the phone? Use that with wifi?
iPod Touch.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Viin on August 13, 2009, 11:37:30 AM
I am leaning towards the Netbook, but god forbid I could find a freakin' useful (post Win 95) app to handle a recipe catalog.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Bunk on August 13, 2009, 11:44:27 AM
The kindle's browser is really mediocre and the keyboard is next to useless. I'd suggest a cheap netbook. If you don't want to pay a ton of money per month for an iphone, isn't there a ipod version that's the iphone without the phone? Use that with wifi?
iPod Touch.


iTouch works fine with wifi, no need to have the phone and whole plan for just browsing in the house. I'd still go with one of those mini notebooks instead though.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Ookii on August 13, 2009, 12:02:50 PM
Something about a laptop in the kitchen that is a RECIPE (get it?) for disaster. I would get flour under the keys in two seconds, that's why just a screen is nice.

She already has an iphone!  All these itouch suggestions.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Viin on August 13, 2009, 12:19:31 PM
Problem is that it's so small and not exactly easy to type in a recipe. (2 1/2 Cups of Crushed Walnuts, lightly sweetened with honey or caramel). I do agree that it might get iffy with liquids and flour being thrown around.

I *may* look into mounting a flat screen on the wall, hooked to a micro in a cabinet. That way, only the mouse and keyboard are on the counter and the both could be easily replaced when a pitcher of olive oil falls on them.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Brogarn on August 13, 2009, 12:39:59 PM
My wife cooks pretty regularly and has a fairly large list of recipes. She puts them all on her laptop and just prints out the recipe when she needs it. We had thought about a device for her, but realized that its cheaper to have a laptop that does more than one function and easier to use because it comes with a full keyboard and large screen. There's also far too much risk for getting stuff on the device that would ruin it. If she gets finger prints of homemade marinara sauce all over a printed out recipe, well, who cares? Recycle it and print it out again when she needs it.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Nerf on August 13, 2009, 01:18:53 PM
Problem is that it's so small and not exactly easy to type in a recipe. (2 1/2 Cups of Crushed Walnuts, lightly sweetened with honey or caramel). I do agree that it might get iffy with liquids and flour being thrown around.

I *may* look into mounting a flat screen on the wall, hooked to a micro in a cabinet. That way, only the mouse and keyboard are on the counter and the both could be easily replaced when a pitcher of olive oil falls on them.

http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=8486640&oext=1038A&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=8486640

Not sure on the mouse, though.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Numtini on August 13, 2009, 01:27:36 PM
As someone who's a big cook, yeah, I would never have a laptop in the kitchen. I print something out and refer to it. Or more likely just read it and cook. But I get crap everywhere when I cook.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Sky on August 13, 2009, 01:40:19 PM
I also just print things out. I'm starting to make multiple prints because I spill stuff all over the originals. I can't imagine trying to keep an electronic device clean while cooking. I do have a separate table for setting my cookbooks and recipes, but they still get messed up. It's a kitchen, if you can keep it clean while using it, you're doing it wrong.

Best advice I can think of if you're set on this is to look into industrial input devices, keyboards they use in industrial and warehouse settings that can stand up to spills and particulates. Don't forget the heat issues in the kitchen, too.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: fuser on August 13, 2009, 01:53:55 PM
So, my wife wants something in the kitchen that she can use to save (scan preferrably, or type) receipes she gets from magazines as well as look up stuff on the 'Net.

http://www.msicomputer.com/msiaio/

Intel atom netbook guts + touchscreen lcd (a bit buggy)


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Tebonas on August 13, 2009, 02:02:33 PM
Or hope that Apple Tablet PC comes and won't cost a fortune (yeah, right).


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: IainC on August 13, 2009, 02:13:37 PM
Internet enabled fridge (http://www.alibaba.com/product/teptronic-10863374-10652784/productdetail.html).


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Viin on August 13, 2009, 02:24:53 PM
Internet enabled fridge (http://www.alibaba.com/product/teptronic-10863374-10652784/productdetail.html).

She would totally kill me for getting that, but maybe she won't notice!

Edit: Maybe you guys have the right idea and I should just get one of these instead: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&sku=224-3471&redirect=1



Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Ookii on August 13, 2009, 02:35:17 PM
Internet enabled fridge (http://www.alibaba.com/product/teptronic-10863374-10652784/productdetail.html).

She would totally kill me for getting that, but maybe she won't notice!

Edit: Maybe you guys have the right idea and I should just get one of these instead: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&sku=224-3471&redirect=1

If that's in your pricerange, this should be too:

http://www.mydemy.com/index.html (http://www.mydemy.com/index.html)

You'll get a BJ out of it too.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Viin on August 13, 2009, 02:38:57 PM
How the hell did you find that?


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Yegolev on August 13, 2009, 02:48:00 PM
http://www.mydemy.com/index.html (http://www.mydemy.com/index.html)

zomg


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Samwise on August 13, 2009, 03:26:29 PM
So, my wife wants something in the kitchen

You, my friend, need a Honeywell 316 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_316)!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c8/Kitchen_computer_ad.jpg)


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: IainC on August 13, 2009, 03:28:33 PM
So, my wife wants something in the kitchen

You, my friend, need a Honeywell 316 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_316)!

If only someone had thought to post that in the second reply.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: schild on August 13, 2009, 03:31:25 PM
I would kill for that thing.

Also, once again, I need to point out how many chives that woman has. I don't know what she's fucking cooking, but it better have a side of chive pie or else those are gonna go bad.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Paelos on August 13, 2009, 03:33:07 PM
Probably Baked Potato and Chive Soup.

EDIT: Or if they are scallions, Mongolian Beef!


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Ookii on August 13, 2009, 03:49:22 PM
How the hell did you find that?

Google!  :drill:


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Samwise on August 13, 2009, 03:49:29 PM
So, my wife wants something in the kitchen

You, my friend, need a Honeywell 316 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_316)!

If only someone had thought to post that in the second reply.

If it didn't have the picture inline it didn't count.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: MisterNoisy on August 13, 2009, 08:27:19 PM
It's funny.  I was going to answer this in a serious 'try the iPhone app first since it's cheap' way, but honestly - if someone has an iPhone and a PC and this problem and the result is her spouse making this thread on a gaming forum, it doesn't matter what anyone here says.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Goreschach on August 13, 2009, 09:57:12 PM
It's funny.  I was going to answer this in a serious 'try the iPhone app first since it's cheap' way, but honestly - if someone has an iPhone and a PC and this problem and the result is her spouse making this thread on a gaming forum, it doesn't matter what anyone here says.

It could be worse, she could be asking for a computer for the closet.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Righ on August 13, 2009, 10:47:57 PM
Also, once again, I need to point out how many chives that woman has. I don't know what she's fucking cooking, but it better have a side of chive pie or else those are gonna go bad.

10 BUY CHIVES
20 GOTO 10


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Viin on August 14, 2009, 08:52:13 AM
It's funny.  I was going to answer this in a serious 'try the iPhone app first since it's cheap' way, but honestly - if someone has an iPhone and a PC and this problem and the result is her spouse making this thread on a gaming forum, it doesn't matter what anyone here says.

What exactly are you insinuating?  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: voodoolily on August 14, 2009, 10:16:42 AM

If that's in your pricerange, this should be too:

http://www.mydemy.com/index.html (http://www.mydemy.com/index.html)

You'll get a BJ out of it too.

I had something published on Key Ingredient, and they wanted me to try that thing out (they weren't giving it to me for free, though, so wtf). Looks cool, but one obvious flaw I find is that the kitchen is a steamy, greasy place that I try to keep screens away from. Cook a steak on a hot pan once or twice and you'll end up with a fine mist of fat all over that thing.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: voodoolily on August 14, 2009, 10:17:39 AM
I would kill for that thing.

Also, once again, I need to point out how many chives that woman has. I don't know what she's fucking cooking, but it better have a side of chive pie or else those are gonna go bad.

Those are scallions.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Sky on August 14, 2009, 10:30:02 AM
She could be a midget in a midget house.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Viin on August 14, 2009, 11:30:33 AM
http://www.mydemy.com/index.html (http://www.mydemy.com/index.html)

I had something published on Key Ingredient, and they wanted me to try that thing out (they weren't giving it to me for free, though, so wtf). Looks cool, but one obvious flaw I find is that the kitchen is a steamy, greasy place that I try to keep screens away from. Cook a steak on a hot pan once or twice and you'll end up with a fine mist of fat all over that thing.

I think we could keep it away from the stove, we have a very long counter on both side of the kitchen - so I'm not worried about that too much for us. However, I don't like the idea of it being tied only to Key Ingredient. If that site ever goes down or they stop supporting their API or whatever, there would be no way to update the device. If it had a desktop app or some other way to push changes to it, I think I'd be all over it.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Lantyssa on August 14, 2009, 11:58:15 AM
A printer really is your best bet.  Get a laser and not an ink jet.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: IainC on August 14, 2009, 12:19:48 PM
A printer really is your best bet.  Get a laser and not an ink jet.
Hard copy? How quaintly 20th century...


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Ookii on August 14, 2009, 01:50:48 PM
I say use a printing press!


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: voodoolily on August 14, 2009, 02:17:31 PM
FWIW, I use my iPhone if I need a recipe that I don't have in one of my cookbooks.

Call me old school, but I really like having a crusty old copy of Joy of Cooking that just falls open to the cornbread page on its own because of all of the times I've made it, or seeing a little blob of dried dough on the biscuit page. It reminds me of being in my mom's and grandma's kitchens as a girl.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Righ on August 14, 2009, 02:37:12 PM
FWIW, I use my iPhone if I need a recipe that I don't have in one of my cookbooks.

Phone a friend?


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Sky on August 14, 2009, 02:45:04 PM
I say use a printing press!
Only if you make your own paper and ink.
Call me old school, but I really like having a crusty old copy of Joy of Cooking that just falls open to the cornbread page on its own because of all of the times I've made it, or seeing a little blob of dried dough on the biscuit page. It reminds me of being in my mom's and grandma's kitchens as a girl.
And this. I really do need to get a copy of that book. My worn old book from ze olde dayes is a Good Housekeeping. It rocked for me because it had all these illustrations to teach me what the hell to do, since my family was never big on cooking all fancy style.

Actually my cookbook was stolen, so my cousin gave me hers because she doesn't cook and all the stains and gobbets are from the last fifteen years only :)


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Numtini on August 17, 2009, 09:36:19 AM
Mine falls open to the Yorkshire pudding recipe. I can't for the life of me imagine why I can't keep the proportions of it straight given that I've been making it since I was a child, but I apparently can't.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Yegolev on August 17, 2009, 11:17:50 AM
I'm using the Betty Crocker Cookbook, which is a three-ring binder for dummies.  I used it to make that great meatloaf... not that I stick to recipes like glue or anything.  Computer actually in the kitchen seems like overkill, just keeping recipes somewhere is all I really need.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: Viin on September 04, 2009, 04:57:38 PM
In case anyone is curious, I bought my wife a Dell Mini 10v (http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/notebooks/laptop-inspiron-10/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-inspiron-10&s=dhs&cs=19&ref=lthp) and will be giving it to her tonight. We have 2 weeks before we can return it for a refund of some sort.


Title: Re: A Computer for the Kitchen
Post by: MisterNoisy on September 05, 2009, 05:51:57 PM
Cool - make sure you pick up a 2GB SODIMM for under $30 at NewEgg - installation is retarded easy.