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Title: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: sinij on August 03, 2009, 09:01:38 PM
Circling the drain - consoles

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=24677
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX4f9zts6JM

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In-game ad house Double Fusion has brought dynamic, in-game video advertising to the PlayStation 3 game Wipeout HD across North America and Europe, the company said Monday.

This is being done post-release, on number of titles that originally sold without adds.

More proof that control over gaming platform leads to all kinds of asshatery.  Unless this get sued out of existence console games will quickly spiral down to TV-like 17min of adds per hour.



Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Velorath on August 03, 2009, 09:06:24 PM
Please stop making these retarded topics.


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: sinij on August 03, 2009, 09:10:50 PM
Are you not even remotely interested in the fact that bunch of titles got sold without adds, then got bait-and-switch patched with adds? ... or did you already accept this as inevitable?


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Velorath on August 03, 2009, 09:12:56 PM
Are you not even remotely interested in the fact that bunch of titles got sold without adds, then got bait-and-switch patched with adds? ... or did you already accept this as inevitable?

I'd be more willing to discuss it if it weren't part of your bizarre theory that consoles are in some sort of death spiral.


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: sinij on August 03, 2009, 09:16:19 PM
They aren't in any bigger "death spiral" than The Jerry Springer Show... just getting targeted toward lowest common denominator audience that even you might not want to be part of.

Perhaps better term - spiraling toward trash entertainment.


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: schild on August 03, 2009, 09:22:50 PM
Stop being dumb, Sinij.


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Margalis on August 03, 2009, 10:52:55 PM
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More proof that control over gaming platform leads to all kinds of asshatery

Nothing prevents PC game makers from doing the exact same thing.


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Azazel on August 03, 2009, 11:10:59 PM
I thought PCs were in a death spiral because od DRM and piracy? Now consoles are on the way out as well?

We're all DOOMED!

(http://geekadelphia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/darth_vader_noooo1.jpg)

 :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Rasix on August 03, 2009, 11:17:00 PM
DRAMATIC STATEMENT COMPOSED OF INSANE LEVELS OF HYPERBOLE.

STUPID LINK 1
STUPID LINK 2

RETARDED CONCLUSION.


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: UnSub on August 04, 2009, 12:45:00 AM
More proof that control over gaming platform leads to all kinds of asshatery.  Unless this get sued out of existence console games will quickly spiral down to TV-like 17min of adds per hour.

Different issues. Ad revenue funds free-to-air TV and helps reduce the cost of pay-tv program development. In-game advertising is currently just a way to earn a few extra bucks for the developers. It depends about how much developers / publishers start to depend on ad revenue to develop / maintain games. Thus far, the actual returns haven't been good and online ad sellers like DoubleFusion have been making significant losses.

Also, it's been done: CoH/V launched without ads, had them implemented, currently they are MIA. Reason? Probably that no advertiser cares about a piddly 100k audience in a superhero MMO unless they are selling superhero-related products (and, funnily enough, few do).

Don't panic.



Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: jakonovski on August 04, 2009, 05:49:30 AM
"WoW 3: Illidan's Son Returns will be back after these messages!"

*twitch*

 :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Yegolev on August 04, 2009, 07:43:25 AM
If consoles are circling the drain, PCs are clawing at the drain trap.


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Sky on August 04, 2009, 07:59:48 AM
Ads.


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Yegolev on August 04, 2009, 08:00:59 AM
Thanks, I forgot about that one. Good lookin' out.


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: ghost on August 04, 2009, 08:45:54 AM
PCs are clawing at the drain trap.

I figured they were the nasty ball of hair stuck in the P trap, but hey.....


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Hayduke on August 04, 2009, 11:07:01 AM
It's okay the world's ending in 2012 anyway.  We can limp to the finish line.


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Hawkbit on August 04, 2009, 11:14:17 AM
Yeah, but it's late in the year so don't make it sound too final. 


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Sky on August 04, 2009, 12:27:27 PM
Still time to get those xmas season releases out!


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Velorath on August 04, 2009, 01:21:22 PM
The ads have already been pulled due to the load time increases they were causing.


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Dtrain on August 04, 2009, 01:27:45 PM
These ads have nobly destroyed, not consoles, BUT THEMSELVES!

If only Sinij had not poisoned our perceptions we might have embraced them as the heros they are were.


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Sky on August 04, 2009, 02:40:24 PM
Motherfucking communists!


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: sinij on August 04, 2009, 05:13:48 PM
Cal State Student Arrested for moding

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/tech/Cal-State-Student-Faces-10-Year-Prison-Term-for-Playing-with-Video-Games-52386872.html

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The Cal State Fullerton student was arrested Monday on federal charges that he illegally modified Xbox, Playstation, Wii and other video game consoles to enable the machines to play pirated video games.

 :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: schild on August 04, 2009, 05:16:23 PM
That's the most sensationalist bullshit headline I've seen in a long, long time.

Also, it's "modding."

Oh, and you can't be arrested for just modding. I'd know, given one of my previous employers.


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Ingmar on August 04, 2009, 05:18:34 PM
That's the most sensationalist bullshit headline I've seen in a long, long time.

Since this thread was posted anyway.


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Rasix on August 04, 2009, 05:18:47 PM
He knew what he was doing.  He likely knew the risks.  Big. Fucking. Deal.


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: AutomaticZen on August 04, 2009, 05:22:52 PM
I can't say I even notice the goddamn ads in Burnout as I go flying by at pans-shitting miles per hour.  If you have a billboard in a game, feel free to tart it up with whatever ads would've been there in the real world.  I'll ignore it just the same.


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: fuser on August 04, 2009, 06:03:37 PM
He knew what he was doing.  He likely knew the risks.  Big. Fucking. Deal.

Cannot find anything on ICE's website (http://www.ice.gov/pi/news/newsreleases/index.htm?top25=yes&year=all&month=all&state=all&topic=all) for details perhaps over the next few days we might find out a bit more.

Police seem to hound him (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1784460348)  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Trippy on August 04, 2009, 06:14:39 PM
That's the most sensationalist bullshit headline I've seen in a long, long time.

Also, it's "modding."

Oh, and you can't be arrested for just modding. I'd know, given one of my previous employers.
They can still go after you with a civil case if you are modding (and circumventing copy protection) for your own personal use.

This guy was presumably selling modded systems and then it becomes a criminal offense.

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap12.html#1204


Title: Re: Circling the drain - consoles
Post by: Daeven on August 05, 2009, 01:10:40 AM
DRAMATIC STATEMENT COMPOSED OF INSANE LEVELS OF HYPERBOLE.

STUPID LINK 1
STUPID LINK 2

RETARDED CONCLUSION.

Dude. You just let out the secret of every topic on the entire internet. Ever.

Might as well close the fucker down now.