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A RL friend of mine is interested in playing some WoW and I thought I'd join them for a social thing.  Could you guys give me a good duo recommendation?  We'd be interested in eventually being able to do some instance dungeons as a duo.  If we could do them when they're green, that would be wonderful.  

- They are interested in playing a Paladin or a Priest. 

I'm pretty open here and have played almost every class.  So your suggestions for best synergy would be great.  

If you're looking for the ability to duo dungeons, I'd say you need a pet class.  My hunter could solo some of the trash pre-BC in green dungeons, but I don't think he could take the bosses without backup.  Warlock would probably work, too.  Even there, though, I don't know that you'd be able to duo much higher than level 40 dungeons without them going gray.

Or, you could make a tank/healer duo, and try that out.  Feral druid might have some luck tanking, since they can shift in and out of DPS mode.

Death Knight would be a good class if you can get your buddy up to that level.  DKs start with insane gear and are way overpowered in the Outlands dungeons.

I did a warlock\mage combo and was doing Scarlet Monastery and other dungeons with ease.  Keeping the pet alive was the hardest thing in those dungeons honestly.  I'd say with a priest or pally (go pally for the ability to take damage much better than a priest) and a warlock or a hunter there isn't much you can't duo.  A feral druid would work too, but not easily until the BC\WotLK grouping stuff due to gear and skills being difficult to obtain in the pre-60 world.

tank + healer = ruling of the world

It doesn't even have to be specced healing (except maybe if you REALLY want to do instances), just having a heal spell is enough. Ingmar and I used to duo as  warrior/paladin and we could not die. Then I got completely tired of the paladin and he had to make his own way in WotLK.

I dunno about the duoing of instances, though, I think that would depend on how much you'd be twinking yourselves. It's just not something I've tried to do very often (I've done some three-person instances but nothing smaller).


EDIT: Also, as a bitter ex-paladin, if your friend wants to heal at cap should you get there, steer him towards the priest. It's just a lot more flexible and interesting.

Deathknight + Deathknight.

You know I'm right.

Some Combination of Paladin + Druid.

Hell, druid/druid.

Feral druid + ret paladin are pretty good.  They can both dps and fly through quests, but the druid can switch to tanking mode at the touch of a button for harder stuff, with the paladin providing healing that's not too shabby where needed.

Between the two of them they can also dispel every debuff which can be important depending on what you're doing.  At the start of wotlk I was duoing karazhan with this combination and we could clear the entire place fairly easily (chess was the only tricky part!).  A ret paladin running seal of wisdom basically has infinite mana, and so we were able to clear things we maybe couldn't have done with a pure tank/healer.

Basically you'll want some class that can tank (Druid, warrior, paladin) plus some class that can heal, preferably heal and dps interchangeably (ret paladin, elemental shaman, balance druid, priest)

DeathKnight and resto druid are pretty unstoppable. I'm currently two-boxing this combo and it's frankly embarrassing how many mobs I can pull and still walk out of the fight on full health & mana on both characters.

As a healer or DPS? Either way I'd pick the priest, but I'm biased. DK's will be out since your friend will presumably be starting at level one. I'd be tempted to go for a warrior or druid to complement a paladin or a priest.

Nah, it lacks the dispell/buff cheese. It be good for RP/Flavour though!

Druid+Paladin has a lot of buff synergy though, pretty much any way you spec either of them.



I would go Protection Paladin and a casting druid. Preferably one with dual spec for Resto/Balance.


Prot + Resto will never die. Like ever. Never die, never stop, they're like Terminators.

Prot + Balance will be able to kill ungodly amounts of monsters, hilarious, ridiculous, nerfbait worthy amounts.


You could flip it around, go Holy/Feral, but the paladin would want to /wrist sooner or later.

Holy priest feral wouldn't be bad, although your low-level AoE isn't great. Past level 75 priests and rogues have the best AoE though, so I guess it depends how far you want to push this sort of thing.

God I love this combo  :thumbs_up:  Even way back when prot was useless for anything but BC heroics and sucked in pvp, me and my roomate ran this one and loved it.


Damn DKs  :tantrum:

For Dungeon Duoing, I would (personally) rank effectiveness as follows:

1. Holy Paladin + Prot Paladin (sad but true)
2. Holy Paladin + Prot Warrior or Bear
3. Holy Paladin + Bear
4. Holy Paladin + Frost DK
5. Frost DK + Blood DK
6. Holy Paladin + Pet Class (lock or hunter)

Wow see a trend...WTF Paladin is the ONLY class I do not have at least a 70 of (mine is a ridiculous 29).  :uhrr:

It sounds like this guy is starting WoW fresh and for the first time. Don't try to make him tank/heal so you can two-man dungeons, or worry about what is or isn't good in the endgame, or any of the other crap the old hands here are talking about. He's a newb. Just have him make a ret pally. They're fun, they do good damage, they're tough to kill, and they can heal. Then make a feral druid or something to go along with it and have fun kicking through the game.

Thanks for the input.  I'm pretty sure that they will play a paladin.  Looks like that narrows my choices down to a warrior, druid, warlock, or a hunter.  The concensus seems to lean toward druid or warrior.  I appreciate the input. 

For the record, the refer a friend program is ridiculous.  You can blow through levels in almost no time.  The only downside is that you level so fast that you can't keep gear current without a high level toon to provide it.  Looks like I'll be sending them a lot of packages in the mail. 

I have to admit, I had a lot of fun levelling a shaman as enhance, if your friend decided to go Ret you would have decent buff synergy. That said an Arms Warrior or Feral Druid would be just as good. I guess it depends how far you guys want to take it. Shamans synergise well with more or less any class, moreso than any other class really.

When I saw your post I was going to suggest playing what you want, but to keep in mind you'll be going through levels so fast that keeping dungeons green might be difficult, so don't even worry about it.

If you have a paladin in the duo definitely make them tank. Even with all the tank balance changes, there's still nothing like a prot paladin for farming lower level instances.

I am philosophically opposed to paladins speccing anything but ret, but then I hate instances, grouping, and pretty much anything besides running around a battleground smashing faces. Fucking diku. Everything requires three jobs, two of which nobody wants to do.

Prot Paladins are Ret Paladins that use a shield.

Have you rolled characters yet?

Eh, I find tanking and healing far more fun than dps'ing.

I don't think it matters one bit.  If you're playing casually, pick whatever seems cool/fun to you.  You'll dominate the content as whatever duo you choose.

Not yet.  I've been soloing a hunter waiting on him to sub. 

To the rest of you, thanks for the input.  I appreciate the help and thoughts.

Have you played a dk yet, Nebu?

Even if you don't play it past whenever you level outside DK beginning area, you really ought to do that part of it.  Best starting zone ever - and I really like both the BE and Draenei starting zones.

To add to your "truth."

I've leveled everything but a Hunter to minimum 70 and most to 80.  The DK is by far the easiest (read: stupid easy) to get to max level from 58 of all classes.  You don't have to worry about keeping gear updated and there is no downtime.  I've only died a few times and that was either from DC or from just taking on way too much because I normally can.

DKs level out to be comparable to other classes at 80 for raiding, but before that, they are an unstoppable farming/leveling character.

I haven't. 

I do have to say that after leveling a mage, warrior, shaman, rogue, and priest to 70 that the hunter is almost stupid easy by comparison.  If DK is even easier, then I will have to give it a go when I finish the hunter. 

You basically just run up to stuff and kill it before your runes even refresh.  You'll be at full health when you're finished also.  Blood kills elites stupid easy.

When Wrath first came out I used to regularly run the Hellfire and Zangarmarsh instances in all DK groups.

Yeah...

EDIT: I can provide a DK to do run-throughs on the early instances if you want, I'm still guild-less until my terrible Satellite internet gets replaces with a wireless point-to-point to the nearby cell tower.  Even then I might not go total catass and will probably have free time.

I think druid and pally is on par with hunter (although pally pre-Wrath was slow in terms of killing rate/downtime; druid had no downtime to speak of, similar to hunter).

But DK sets a new standard.  I'm blasting through Outlands effortlessly. 

From the DK starting area, go straight to Outlands.  No need to wait until 60.

I don't want to replace my gear though, because my matched DK set looks awesome.

Breaking up the awesome look of the starter DK set and replacing it with an Outlands clownsuit is heartbreaking.  :heartbreak:

That's why you play a gnome DK so you don't see what your armor looks like anyway.  :awesome_for_real:

Though, after leveling a ret pally (planning to spec prot at 80) I feel a lot more OP than I ever did when leveling the DK. 'Course the DK didn't have access to heirloom items...

While leveling, my DK didn't feel any more powerful than my feral Druid.  PvP is a whole different story though.  Ferals are a joke in PvP.

GC dropped an interesting tidbit related to this in his Ret QQ Thread.  Context:

This game really needs two things: an appearance tab and housing.  With the addition of the new achievements, this would make it near perfect as a diku. 

I'm still struck by the ease of pve with a hunter.  Having a pet take all the heat allows me to do things that I never imagined. 

So, my friend is definately playing a paladin... I'm torn between Druid, Shaman, and priest.  I've played a shaman to 70 before, but not the other two.  I'd like to play a class that can solo effectively, but still get invited to groups for 5 mans.  I think he wants to plat a ret paladin and possibly protection, but not as a healer.  He's happy playing tank. 

I'm thinking druid, but fear that it will have a hard time getting groups for a 5 man.  If that's the case, shaman or priest are my other options.

Healers really don't have a hard time getting 5 man groups.  If he goes protection, you'll be able to fill up a group in no time at all.  Of course, if you're DPS, then you're pretty much just an interchangeable cog and are at the whim of other healers+tanks finding each other.  

With a de-emphasis on crowd control, it's not really hard for one DPS to get a group versus any other (unless you run into an asshole DK that says "no plate users").   

Well the top four most common classes are Druids, Paladins, Warriors and DKs. In general I don't think druids have any problems getting groups, and there seems to be a persisting aversion to ferals, so you may not be expected to tank. Boomkins are probably the most common type of druids these days (although this may vary from server to server), and seem generally well accepted. Shamans are probably the hardest to get into bad groups, and the easiest to get into good groups; certainly as alliance Shamans are the least represented class; but they have the advantage that they mesh well with everyone. As a priest (healer) I have zero issues getting groups and have found very little of the content which I cannot handle if I approach it in the right way. As a healer, I think I will always prefer my priest to my shaman, although Shaman DPS is more enjoyable than shadowpriest DPS in my view. Disc is arguably the most enjoyable healing spec, it's the most engaging and offers more common utility than any other healer. Consider whether you prefer casting or melee. If you prefer melee I'd probably err towards the druid, as ferals are nice and versatile. If you prefer DPS casting I'd go for the shaman, and if you prefer healing I'd go for the priest.

I should clarify: I enjoy playing a healer. 

Which healer is a) in demand and b) can solo effectively?  Can I solo effectively as a priest?  Keep in mind, that I likely will never raid so my gear will be crap. 

For raiding resto druids are top of the pile, followed by priests. For everything else, anything works really. Having played a priest healer for several years now I can fairly say that we've never had a more enjoyable healing spec (that isn't retardedly unbalanced) than Disc. While it doesn't come into it's own until level 40ish (no healing specs do really) as you start filling out the bottom of the tree it's fantastic. If you want to play an interesting, useful and atypical healer, go disc.

Disc solos well enough; no healer spec will ever match a DPS spec for killing efficiency, but Disc isn't bad. In tandem with your friend it should do well as Disc has really good mana efficiency compared to Holy Priests and Resto Shamans. If he's playing as ret and giving you replenishment you guys will probably have zero downtime and will just plow through content.

Can you pony up 1k gold for dual spec?  No worrying about solo effectiveness when you can switch roles at the push of a button.

As previously said, all healers fit both criterias. I'd recommend going druid or paladin simply because you then also have the choice of being a tank, and prot/feral is damn good for leveling.

Also, for vanilla wow, BM hunter pets not only can tank instances, they often do so even better than a normal braindead pug tank.

Enhance shaman solo like gods at higher levels (60+), and still do very well before that.

If you splurge on dual specs, then Druid will have no trouble at all getting into 5 mans as Resto and soloing as Feral.  You could probably do the same with a Shaman as Resto for raids and Enhance for soloing.  Or hell, make a Paladin of your own with Holy/Protection dual specs.

i'll throw in my 2 copper.  (all my opinion of course)

My preference for healers:

1. priest (my main):  i  :heart: disco.  it is so much fun it hurts.  also i found it very easy to solo stuff as shadow, still doable as disco now that penance does a little more damage.

2.druid (soon to be my new main):  i really enjoy healing as a tree. very interesting.  i like the interplay between swiftmend and nature's swiftness...tanking is ok...i just hate staring at bear butt and i don't feel like i hold agro as well as my tankadin.

3.pally :  i love tanking....despise healing (i found it very boring)

no experience as shaman...

No problem.  My main is a miner, so money is easy. 

Looks like priest vs druid for my choices.  My friend playing Paladin wants to play a more tank role than healer.  I have almost no experience on a druid and played a priest in a limited fashion so they are both foreign to me. 

To be honest, it isn't really that hard to solo with anything in WoW these days.  But if your soloing to be mostly questing, then the stealth on Druids is really, really nice.  I'd be hard pressed to find something a Druid can't do.

Druid would give you more variety.  Feral/Restoration should allow you to do pretty much anything you want.  After leveling a bit if you only want to worry about one set of gear, you could even go Balance/Restoration.  (Don't solo early as Balance though... you will hate life.)

Go Caster Druid. Resto for healing, Balance for DPS.

Did they fix regen problems at lower levels?

Heh.  I have two max-level warriors and about three abandoned low-level paladins.  I guess I'm just special a snowflake a glutton for punishment.

Define lower levels.  It's not tooo bad once you get to Dreamstate (3/3 is level 37+).   Not great, but not horrible.

I have a max level warrior and 2 abandoned pallys as well. However, I do admit that if I hadn't rolled the warrior as the first character ever, I would have probably given up on it before level 15. Hell, up to level 10 all you have is thunderclap and heroic strike. Also you have dick for armor and can't kill more than 1-2 things at a time without dying

Nah, I'd say your smart or at least don't enjoy tedium.  Paladin 1-58 is probably the most boring class in the game regardless of spec (at least for me it was), auto-attack -> judge -> repeat until dead x infinity.

Even at max level 2 of the 3 specs have 4-5 main abilities (Holy and Ret) and are rather mundane in terms of spell/ability variety or diversity, and even Prot while using more abilities than Ret or Holy on a regular basis is still probably considered one of the easiest of the 4 tank classes.

That's not to say there isn't plenty of skill involved in using that small pool of abilities to their full potential and using the other utility spells as well, but on the whole it can lead to the gameplay feeling dull or boring much quicker than other classes.

On a related note, what about priests?  I'm trying to level a priest myself, and running into huge mana issues as a L30 Shadow.  Looking up the tree, the only mana regen ability I'm seeing is Dispersion waaaaaay up a the top...  My shaman was having similar problems until he hit 20, got Water Shield, and now never gets low, but I'm not seeing anything comparable for priests.  Am I doing it wrong?

Did you skip spirit tap or something? Spirit tap is *huge* for leveling.

No; got it maxed.  It was great at level 15, but now, not so much.  Do I need to gear for spirit for it to work?

It's been a while, but IIRC the Shadow Priest Method (tm) is to dot targets, run away, fear it when it catches up to you, and mind flay it as it runs back towards you.  Finish it off with your wand.

Plenty of skill in using a Paladin properly. I was the best known Ret on my server, and it wasn't because I was the most geared out (well, I was eventually).

As far as leveling a pally, go prot when you get bored. You can't go straight prot because you'll kill yourself, but you can grind out a few levels aoe grinding for a complete change of pace. Find a spot with lots of melee-only mobs and let them kill themselves on your shield 15 at a time.

But it's straight grinding. Grinding the same 2-3 spawns with no quests over and over again is fucking mind-breaking eventually.

Kinda.

Heck, if you're on a pve server, all you need to worry about is spirit and spell power, all the rest is useless.

This, except I'll add that resto shaman healing isn't very interesting, but Enhance and Elemental are awesome specs. For healing Disc priests are fantastic.


Yes, also you want to pick up meditation around now. At level 30 you should have Twin Disciplines, Nightfall, Spirit Tap, Imp Spirit Tap and Probably Shadow Focus and Imp SW:P. For gear, focus on stuff with spirit, int and spellpower, you need these three stats. Don't bother too much with stam, hit, crit or haste. Stam you'll get aplenty from PW:F, and the other stats don't really show up until you get raid gear. You should also keep yourself buffed with divine spirit at all times.

With decent spirit, using a SW:P > Mind Blast > Mind-Flay > Wand until dead kill order you should have no problem eating through content without much downtime. You should have meditation filled out by level 38 or so, and from then on it just gets progressively easier.

If you kill fast enough, mana is going to be an issue for every spell caster but affliction or demonology warlocks.

I think I had to drink about 4 times on my elemental shaman going from 58-80, they have fantastic mana efficiency.

Why demo? I know affliction from experience, but wouldn't demo have mana issues?

They can steal mana from the pet or whatever.

Demo can Lifetap without worry, since the pet will be taking all the beatings.

It isn't terribly exciting mind you, but you can go at a good click just by DoTing, Draining and Taping as required.



Elemental is really efficient once you get all the stuff for it, but it suffers the same issues at the low levels everyone else does.

That's why you just don't replace anything until Northrend except your weapon.  :awesome_for_real:

At that level a shadow priest spell rotation should be something like: open with Mind Blast, Mind Flay, Mind Flay, Mind Blast if mob is still more than 50% of health, repeat.  Assuming you have all the points in your Mind Blast cooldown reduction talent and Mind Flay talent, which you should.  Once the mob is down around 10-20%, wand it the rest of the way down.  The idea is not to completely burn all of your mana as quickly as possible.  Let spirit tap go for more than a few seconds if need be and repeat.  Putting yourself in a bubble or adding a SW:P to a mob that will be dead long before it ticks out is mana inefficient.  Putting any DoT's on a mob that you don't intend to fear around the room (such as an elite or a mob you will take major damage from before you can kill it) is a waste of mana.  Once you hit 40 and get Shadowform, the damage goes up and you usually only need 1 rotation of your spells to down a mob.

My shadow priest never has to drink and hasn't regularly since around 20 or so.  After a big pull or after taking down 4-5 mobs in a row without stopping for air, I might.

Demo 'locks are also just as well off using wands since none of their direct damage spells get a boost early on and it still heals your pet if you took the first tier talent.  DoT, DoT, Wand.  Throw in a fear if you're not letting the Void tank.

It's not exciting most of the time, but it is very safe.  Now that Sacrifice takes a miniscule amount of health from the Voidwalker, even moreso.  (At 35 it does 88 health to my VW's 3k.)

DK Armor: It's better than most of the instance shit anyways.

Shadow Priests/Warlocks: SPIRIT!!!

My demo lock doesn't have much issue.  Through talents I get back hp while doing damage (backdraft I think.)  So I just tap and keep blasting.  I don't ever seem to run out.  The other benefit is that another talent provides constant healing and mana to my pet while blasting too.  This allows me to use my imp without worry to actively improve my dps from his DD and the buffs he gives me through talents.  Nothing ever has enough time to really damage me much.

Only health back I see is Soul Leech (destro) and Siphon Life (affliction).  I suppose a build with Soul Leech could still technically be considered demo.. just don't see a lot of demo/affliction builds.  Well, at least they don't get any traction at the theorycrafting sites.

Well all Locks have life drain as a base spell, that's all the healing you need to recover from life taps/blood funnels, since your Felguard/(pet of choice) will theoretically be taking all the damage as demo.

Demonology is pretty decent for mana.  Mine generally blows up shit within an immolate and two incinerates, generally I get a hasted and shard-less soulfire on the next pull, which actually happens to be one of the heaviest hitting and most mana efficient spells in the warlock repertoire.

That being said, I was questing with a destro lock on my paladin when this survival hunter tried to gank me.  I got off a judgement and a hammer of justice and then he just fucking exploded.  The third time he got the hint and just fucked off for the rest of the night.

Ok, we've decided to go with a Priest/Paladin combo.

If I speck shadow, what level will I be able to solo reasonably on the priest?  The last time I played a Priest, I gave up in the 20's because soloing was painful. 

I'd imagine it'd stuck until you at least get mindflay. 40 with shadowform is likely the kicker.  Wouldn't know from personal experience, I gave up on mine early.  :awesome_for_real:

Mindflay is the main thing. After that its fine.

So, now have you made characters yet?  I need a reason to roll another DK and rip up lowbie instances, because most of my characters are closing in on 80.

Yah, just curious, but what server are you playing on?

Nazgrel on the alliance side.  

My other account got hacked, so I just found it easier to start a new account on another server.  I have a 73 hunter that I'm using as a cash bot, but playing it is boring em to tears.  If you want to duo or something, drop me a PM.  I'll play on any non-pvp server.  Playing a rejuv shaman on Venture Co ruined the pvp server thing for me.

I always found soloing a priest to be fairly easy, even at the lower levels. 

Unlike some of those here, my rotation was always mind blast, SW:P, any other DOTs depending on level (devouring plague).  By that time mind flay is too truncated to do much good, so I start wanding.  Refresh shield as necessary.  Most mobs can't outdamage your shield.  That keeps fear and mindflay in the bank for emergencies. The key is to keep your wand updated, since it's a big portion of your DPS.  Also you can mana dump with mind blasts if you really need to.

If those are the only ones you cast, you'll stay pretty well off for mana with spirit tap.  Apply vampiric touch or embrace as needed. 

Thanks for the info.  Have you ever played a hunter?  It's so easy to solo with that I just wander into things without even caring.  I know that my pet can solo up to 2 yellow elites with little more than a hot and feign is a get-out-of-jail-free card. 

I'm guessing that the priest will be slower to level, but ultimately more rewarding in the end.  I also like playing classes you don't see often... so playing a priest or shaman seems to be the way to go since I can't stomach leveling another warrior.

Female dwarf priest. You'll be nearly unique, and look freaking awesome.

The rewards come from being able to blackmail people into giving you all the gear you want.

I have.. it's night and freaking day, esp. at low levels.  Hunter 'struggles' until 10 because it has no pet and has to melee most of the time.  After that it's such a cakewalk you feel bad for the mobs at times.   Hunter was even easier than the DK and people whine that they mow through shit, but that's all gear.   

You know what's even easier than Hunter?  Warlock.  You know what's even easier than Warlock?  Paladin.  Paladin is nigh indestructible from very, very early on but extremely non-engaging and dull.  Unless your idea of fun is to standing there auto attacking 90% of the time.

You know what's easy? EVERY FUCKING CLASS. It's WoW, ffs.

Pretty much, although I did the priest first, so I didn't realise how much easier everyone else had it until I levelled a hunter, then a DK for a while. This was before Shadow was actually any good for anything much though. Nowadays, with all the nice stuff high up in the tree, I imagine levelling as priest would be pretty painless.

Keep us filled in on the progress though, always nice to hear how these things are going.

Make a Radicalthon to tell us of your dungeon assailing antics.

I picked up a level 23 hunter lately, and yeah it was pretty amazing.  I think I died once in about three levels, and that was because I somehow screwed up the ice trap for the second orange mob and wasn't thinking.

I personally don't like the priest all that much, because once you have a good rotation, it's the same thing every mob.  If you get too many, you just have to shelid and run (which is easy too).  I like all the options that hunters, rogues and (medium-high level) warriors have.  Usually with one of those I can pull out a victory when shit gets pretty deep.

Hunters often have that "Oh, that was Elite, no wonder it took longer to kill!" thing going for them.

TBH that also happens with DK's. Or happened. "Wait, everything else already died, why is that one still alive?"

This, it's really viable past 40 and nice gear drops out of instances (yay for re-itemization of BRD stuff).

I dropped 1k into dual spec and I have no issues finding groups as a healer and then boomkin when solo or in a good group that doesn't need a pure healer. Main reason for boomkin is the gear is so close to healer it cuts down on having to bag two sets of gear.

Tanking druids are still very viable in dungeon running and the 3.1 changes to the way swipe works (no longer a cone but aoe) aggro generation is a bit easier on pugs where everyone attacks something different. Plus 3.2 adds the use of rage potions for druids (huzza).

Leveling both druid/pally (post 3.0) it still makes me sick at how well a pally can generate threat and pick up aggro. The downside with a druid feral spec is the total lack to keep up with a pally in a pug DPS role simply due to the design of WoTLK dungeons. Everything are trash AOE pull's which cat's swipe cannot compete with.

I think that my big issue with druid is the same with hunters, rogues, and DK's;  there are a million of them.  I've been leveling a priest and so far, it's been enjoyable.  The only downside I see is that pve is using the same few abilities constantly.  I guess that's better than watching my pet solo stuff while I mine.  

I may reconsider about druid though.  Having the flexibility is a real bonus when you don't have a group to run with.

Most every leveling spec is 1,2,3,4,loot at some level. Add in random lolAE pulls for a few.

It's a million time's better as a NE druid also.

Shadowmeld is stupidly overpowered. I don't know how many times I jumped past an alliance or horde group to kill quest NPC's  and then meld to ditch the adds. Luring horde into mob's then shadowmelding to dump the aggro on them and hitting lifebloom + rejuvenation then letting the npc's kill them for durability damage is comical.

I know this will sound stupid, but I refuse to play elves in these games.  If I have to stare at a character model for hours on end, it has to be something I can stomach.  I think this is a throwback to my EQ days.  It's a big part of my not playing a druid on Alliance side.  I hate playing alliance to begin with and am only doing ti to placate my friend.  Having to play an elf while on alliance is just too much.

I may try a horde druid for the hell of it. 

If you're feral, you don't have to look at your elfness very often.

Don't worry.  The new softer, more domesticated looking NE cat form with their cute little dangly collar, matching bracelets and shrunken claws and saber teeth will be a constant reminder that Night Elves are not 7 foot tall muscular amazon women but instead are the typical stereotype of cute, bouncy elven trollops.

Dude, all elves are stereotypes. Always. From the midget elves that work for santa claus to the muscular purple skinned freak hippies of wow. Elves are always stereotypes.

Now, dwarf women...

WHARRGARBL!

I know I'm about to get a big slap in the face over this, but did you have to remind me?

Don't worry, I've never considered you dangerous.

*runs a few states farther away*

Never, all I ask is that I can be present when you beat up Kild.  I'll deny everything if questioned. ;D

Whatever, my druid looks rad!

Druid is the only reason that I would play an elf. You can be a tank, and DPS, and a healer, and you can bypass content by prowling. It's the ultimate solo class, not least because you can do everything a dozen different ways so that you don't fall asleep pressing the same button sequence over and over for 50 levels.

And if all that wasn't enough, there are a TON of quests you can cheese via flight form - a lot of loot/gather type quests can be done without even leaving flight form, and the fact that it is an instant cast makes a lot of other quests easy as well.

I got on long enough to get flight form and look at the new models.  I was fairly surprised, because the purple hair cat form actually looks pretty good.  It's similar in color to the old one but with a slight purple shade.  The pictures I had seen made it look much lighter in color.

The leather bracelets and dangling collar don't quite work together though.  I need to teach my kitty how to accessorize better.

I'm very happy with the cat form, the bear that matches my hair color isn't great though. Doesn't really matter though as I'll be a tree 90% of the time and a fatkin 10% of the time.

Whoops wrong thread  :awesome_for_real:

I'm debating whether or not to reroll my Druid (again) as the name 'Greyfen' worked nicely with the idea of turning into grey/white forms but the reality is an 800lb inverse badger and a my little kitten (TM) with pink fluffy tufts.

Why don't you pay for a name change instead?

Let's not get started on Mattemeo, Blizzard, and attempting to exchange money between the two. <3

The white cat form isn't quite as gay in game as it looked in the sample screenshot. I was actually disappointed. :( My druid is back to purple hair from white, just because I didn't like his elf form having white hair.  :drillf: