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Title: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Trouble on July 14, 2009, 11:12:26 AM This one seems to have slipped under the radar and is currently in closed beta. It's relatively easy to get a key from people who are in it.
http://www.heroesofnewerth.com The message I got when making my beta account: Quote You are about to play a stand alone DotA based game. We have asked IceFrog if he had any objections to this and he did not, he is ok with it. Heroes of Newerth contains both content very similiar to DOTA and brand new content of S2 Games' creation. We wanted to take a moment to share with you why it is very important you do not share this information with anyone, and to give some insight as to why we chose to create Heroes of Newerth: 1.) At S2, we're huge fans of DOTA, and were pained to see how it was being held back on the warcraft 3 engine. DOTA style gameplay deserves a stand alone game so competition can be taken to the next level. As a MOD, DOTA faces many obstacles and boundaries that a stand alone title like Heroes of Newerth does not. 2.) We also felt that the experience of playing and finding DOTA games online could use some drastic improvement. With HoN, there are many features and tools to make playing online (both with friends and by yourself) a much easier and more enjoyable experience. Your position as testers will help us perfect and fine tune these features, as well as allow us to see how they perform under various conditions. I haven't played it yet but I've read what people have said on other forums and what some friends have said. It basically steals (with permission) a lot of stuff from DoTa. Heroes, abilities, items, etc. The goal is to be a much more faithful DoTa clone than some other games of recent. Currently in the works is a lot of matchmaking stuff so that finding good games with equally skilled opponents is easy, as compared to the horrific non-existent matchmaking in the actual DoTa. I think they're planning on implementing some sort of ELO rankings or something if they haven't already. The NDA on the game recently dropped but they still aren't permitting any media (video, screenshots) to be released in the wild. Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Big Gulp on July 14, 2009, 11:21:18 AM DoTA means nothing to me. Please to be elaborating.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Trouble on July 14, 2009, 11:25:39 AM http://www.dota-allstars.com/
Defense of the Ancients. It's a mod for Warcraft 3 that puts you in control of a single hero that you need to level up while trying to defeat your opponents. Games are usually 5v5. It's probably more popular than actual Warcraft 3 multiplayer. It's like Counter-Strike to Half-Life. A mod more popular than the original game. Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Typhon on July 14, 2009, 06:22:46 PM I wish that Blizzard would pull a Firaxis (Fall from Heaven 2 game into an expansion) and release a War3 expansion that includes DoTA. Great mod.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Trippy on July 14, 2009, 06:36:55 PM I wish that Blizzard would pull a Firaxis (Fall from Heaven 2 game into an expansion) and release a War3 expansion that includes DoTA. Great mod. The FfH mod the Civ IV expansion includes is not the full FfH 2 game.Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: schild on July 14, 2009, 06:38:58 PM Can I score an invite?
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Samprimary on July 14, 2009, 06:59:29 PM I play DotA pretty constantly. To me it's one of the best game experiences available and it's damn near free.
Basically the only real problems with DotA involve the limitations of the Bnet custom games system as a host. People hack the shit out of it constantly just trying to ease the process of hosting DotA. Which is why HoN is such an excellent prospect. If they can get half as many heroes as DotA into the game, and stay consistent with upgrades and tweaks to the same degree that Icefrog has maintained DotA, you got a winner on your hands. I enviously watch my friends play HoN. It's .... well, it's BETA. there is STILL TIME. They need to seriously fix the unit responses and they need to fix all the bugs so that they can begin concentrating on unit balance. Scout is essentially Gondar with a Clinx-style windwalk speed increase, free truesight wards, and Sniper's ult which he can fire whilst invisible. In the enhanced pace of this game, new Omninight's spell shield is ridiculous. Etc. Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Samprimary on July 14, 2009, 07:00:31 PM Also if you score an invite for me I will be SO thankful.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Ragnoros on July 14, 2009, 07:07:57 PM I loves me some DoTA. Put me down.
However good luck to them solving the greatest flaw of DoTA. Other people. :why_so_serious: Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Hayduke on July 14, 2009, 07:40:30 PM That looks very fun. Also League of Legends (another DOTA clone) announced today there'd be a free version of the game and they put up pre-orders.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: schild on July 14, 2009, 07:50:40 PM Trouble posted and disappeared :(
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Yegolev on July 15, 2009, 08:04:05 AM Check EVE.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Trouble on July 15, 2009, 08:05:53 AM Still here! I don't have invites yet, I think they hand them out to beta accounts at regular intervals, and they seem to hand them out in large quantities. Hopefully I'll get some soon.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Typhon on July 16, 2009, 05:53:45 PM I wish that Blizzard would pull a Firaxis (Fall from Heaven 2 game into an expansion) and release a War3 expansion that includes DoTA. Great mod. The FfH mod the Civ IV expansion includes is not the full FfH 2 game.Yeah, I phrased the sentence poorly. Should have said "(Fall from Heaven 2 scenario into an expansion)..." Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Hoax on July 16, 2009, 06:58:48 PM Interested in an invite as well...
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: schild on July 16, 2009, 06:59:22 PM People should've gotten invites who friended them on Facebook but uhhhhhh I haven't yet.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Draegan on July 16, 2009, 07:06:49 PM I never played DOTA before. I always wanted to get around to trying but I can't find my WC3 discs.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Trouble on July 17, 2009, 02:03:24 PM Sent an invite to schild.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: schild on July 17, 2009, 02:07:22 PM You rule.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Samprimary on July 17, 2009, 02:12:19 PM NOO I'VE BEEN PASSED UP IN FAVOR OF THE PERSON WHO ASKED FIRST
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: schild on July 17, 2009, 02:14:08 PM NOO I'VE BEEN PASSED UP IN FAVOR OF THE PERSON WHO ASKED FIRST Don't kid yourself, you were passed up because you don't have an avatar. Whereas I have an awesome one. Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Hayduke on July 17, 2009, 02:41:22 PM The invites are up for Facebook friends. Check the view updates section on their page.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Samprimary on July 17, 2009, 08:02:39 PM NOO I'VE BEEN PASSED UP IN FAVOR OF THE PERSON WHO ASKED FIRST Don't kid yourself, you were passed up because you don't have an avatar. Whereas I have an awesome one. I don't have one presently because forum won't let me upload this (http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5958/aaaaanyz.gif) Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Trippy on July 18, 2009, 02:01:15 AM That's cause it's too wide and it will be automatically shrunk down which destroys the animation.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Samprimary on July 18, 2009, 10:10:01 AM And my new computer doesn't have my perfectly legal copy of fireworks. Siiigh.
anyway I already posted my first sincere recommendation on the forums: that the unit responses and voice actors should be shot and burned. Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Samprimary on July 20, 2009, 04:27:48 PM After playing this for a while, I gotta say that while the graphics are really well done, DotA remains fundamentally a better game, even on its extraordinarily dated engine.
DotA's pacing is a sight bit more manageable and it isn't presently filled with broken heroes that dominate AP and RD games. One of the things that DotA's dev community has going for it is that its playerbase acts as a gauntlet of peer-review. A new hero submission has to be vetted through this process before it gets entered into the playing field. In contrast, new heroes are getting put into HoN just because the devs think they are a cool idea. Existing heroes are remade in ways which make them inexcusably unbalanced. S2 seems also to have completely lost control of their beta community, which is filled with noise and acrimoniousness and a decisive yet understandable split between oldskool dota players and new guys who are offering advice on how to 'fix' the game which is borne by their lack of understanding about what makes DotA good. Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Hayduke on July 20, 2009, 05:35:57 PM It is a good looking game, but the people playing it are ultimately way too unpleasant. I have no dota experience and I guess that's the problem, but Demigod seemed sufficiently different that it was still fun for a newb to jump into.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Samprimary on July 20, 2009, 05:50:24 PM Yeah. In DotA, a bad player ruins games and investments of 30+ minutes of your life. The community is paradoxically hostile because it is so interlaced; if you play it enough you understand why any player has to have an immune antibody response against players who can't play. The enemy will feed on them, then on you.
DotA has adjusted somewhat with a sub-community which will guide you through a kickstart process. S2 isn't providing anything. They can't even keep their own forum from turning into a pit. Stardock went a different way. Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Nonentity on July 21, 2009, 04:28:17 PM Anyone got a beta key for this? I'm fiending for League of Legends, but it's not up 24 hours.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: schild on July 21, 2009, 04:28:56 PM Anyone got a beta key for this? I'm fiending for League of Legends, but it's not up 24 hours. You might as well just play DotA. heroes provides you no benefit over playing the original, Mr. But I don't Have a Problem with DotA.Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Nonentity on July 21, 2009, 05:00:36 PM But HoN is the new shiny. I need it.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: schild on July 22, 2009, 10:22:31 AM But HoN is the new shiny. I need it. It's really not.Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Lounge on July 22, 2009, 06:40:55 PM But HoN is the new shiny. I need it. It's really not.I disagree... Even if all they did was make a 100% exact clone of dota (graphics, sounds, heroes, items, etc) without adding anything at all new gameplay wise, its still INFINITELY better than dota because it has an online system which actually works. Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Samprimary on July 22, 2009, 08:05:26 PM I disagree... Even if all they did was make a 100% exact clone of dota (graphics, sounds, heroes, items, etc) without adding anything at all new gameplay wise, its still INFINITELY better than dota because it has an online system which actually works. If they made a clone of dota without adding anything at all new gameplay wise, I would be happy. They have not done this. They've retooled characters, disrupted balance, enhanced pacing to a trippy level, added terrible voice acting. Presently it is not worth the advancement of the matchmaking system! Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Arrrgh on July 23, 2009, 02:24:24 PM Does anyone else think it's sad that their site is just a link to facebook or is it just me? All DOTA fans use facebook?
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Modern Angel on July 23, 2009, 02:45:38 PM I have invites to email out. PM me if you're interested with your email.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Blakeb on July 28, 2009, 05:07:15 AM Hey angel i sent you a couple messeges! :awesome_for_real:
Would really make my day if i got ahold of a key! This community here is awesome! Im pretty stoked about blizz conn coming up! What does everyone think of the game Heroes of newarth? Let me know if you got my pm angel my email address is WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE Thank you! Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: schild on July 28, 2009, 05:22:49 AM I wonder if deleting an account deletes PMs, I guess we'll find out.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Modern Angel on July 28, 2009, 06:17:20 AM It doesn't but it fucking should.
Of note is that, in my groggy state, I tried to reply to the PMs I got (IT DOES NOT TAKE MORE THAN ONE) five times before I realized he was deleted. Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Typhon on July 28, 2009, 07:18:55 PM I miss him already. Great email address.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: steven on September 21, 2009, 02:55:22 PM http://www.alienwarearena.com/event/hon-beta-giveaway/
Heroes of Newerth Closed Beta Keys Remaining 3397 Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: dusematic on February 12, 2010, 10:26:54 AM This game is pretty slick, just checked out the Beta. I never played DoTA but it's a pretty faithful translation in a slick package. The best thing about it is probably how you can forbid people with high quitting percentages from joining your game, as well as a host of other matchmaking services like ranks, filters, etc.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Lounge on February 12, 2010, 10:53:38 AM I've been playing this pretty hardcore since June. I personally find it way better than LOL, but I'm apparently in the minority here.
Look me up as Lounges if you ever want a match. Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Kageh on February 12, 2010, 02:21:20 PM I missed most of the hype regarding it and somehow managed to always come too late for a beta key, but in my newfound DOTA enthusiasm (courtesy of LoL) I'm very curious how this will work out! I'd be most interested in a direct comparison to LoL and where it is better/worse.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Setanta on February 12, 2010, 03:08:26 PM I'm playing this on and off. It's faithful to the original DOTA but feels like the engine is a lot more flexible - as it should given that the Warcraft 3 engine wasn't specifically designed for the DOTA maps. The user-base seem to be wankers though - trash-talk rules supreme in the games I've been in. That would have to be my biggest complaint about the game. Other than that, it's a fun bash and should do well on release and well worth taking out for a spin.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Lounge on February 12, 2010, 03:49:17 PM I missed most of the hype regarding it and somehow managed to always come too late for a beta key, but in my newfound DOTA enthusiasm (courtesy of LoL) I'm very curious how this will work out! I'd be most interested in a direct comparison to LoL and where it is better/worse. I have some keys... PM me your email and i will send them along. As for LOL vs HON. HON is literally dota with a few different heros and tweaks to old ones. LOL removed some complexity in the actual gameplay and replaced it with complexity of the summoner / rune metagame. Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: schild on February 12, 2010, 03:52:56 PM I don't think the complexity of the systems you're mentioning are comparable to the arcane, over-designed ruleset applied during gameplay to HoN/DoTA
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Lounge on February 12, 2010, 05:25:23 PM I would say that the entire rune / summoner system is over-designed personally, but to each his own.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: dusematic on February 12, 2010, 07:35:35 PM This game is really only fun if you have some buddies to play with, otherwise you'll probably play a few matches and then quit. But I guess that's life.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: schild on February 12, 2010, 08:08:02 PM I would say that the entire rune / summoner system is over-designed personally, but to each his own. Oh, absolutely. But I'd rather some peripheral system that has nothing to do with how the game is played later be the overdesigned part.Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Thrawn on February 15, 2010, 06:32:12 PM I have 3 beta invites to give out if anyone else wants to give the game a try and decide they don't care for it. :uhrr: (just pm or post your e-mail)
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Krushchev on February 15, 2010, 07:38:33 PM I have an extra account I don't use, but the name is fagballs. It's yours if you don't mind the name.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Astorax on February 15, 2010, 08:42:56 PM The art direction of HoN feels like a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.
There's not enough contrast between environment/characters/spell effects to the point where when it gets hectic it's very difficult to distinguish character from particle from tree, making it really hard to target who you want when you want. Some would say that's a cool skill feature, others would say it's just fucking lame. Personally, I left touching DotA because of the community more than anything, and the vast majority of the DotA community transitioned to HoN, not LoL. This is why I will ALWAYS play LoL over HoN regardless of anything else. This isn't to say there aren't douchnozzles in LoL, cause there are, but there's WAY fewer. Also, the developers at Riot aren't complete assholes like S2 devs are. Check the forums for evidence of this. Their responses to fans and community are arrogant at best over at S2 and that turns me off to playing their games or giving them any money (in the future). Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: schild on February 15, 2010, 08:46:52 PM HoN is just DOTA. You get all the worst of that community, the ones afraid of change.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: waffel on February 19, 2010, 01:26:10 PM Looks interesting. I always liked DoTA and played it a lot back when it was independent maps. Once Guinsoo took over and his map become a popular one it was pretty awesome and he did a decent job of balancing shit. However, once icefrog took over the game went to shit.
I'd be willing to play it if anyone has an extra beta key. :grin: edit: Hmm, I see Guinsoo is working on that LoL game... Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Astorax on February 19, 2010, 01:59:23 PM Looks interesting. I always liked DoTA and played it a lot back when it was independent maps. Once Guinsoo took over and his map become a popular one it was pretty awesome and he did a decent job of balancing shit. However, once icefrog took over the game went to shit. I'd be willing to play it if anyone has an extra beta key. :grin: edit: Hmm, I see Guinsoo is working on that LoL game... As is Pendragon (workin on LoL I mean). Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Bungee on December 15, 2010, 02:34:05 AM HoN 2.0 (http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/) out now.
Custom Avatars, Alternate Hero Models, Casual Mode and Matchmaking are the big news. Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Samprimary on December 15, 2010, 04:27:45 AM Heroes of Newerth II: League of Legends
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: waffel on March 27, 2011, 08:03:11 AM Bumping this.
Accounts are only 10 dollars now until the end of the day today. Game has changed a lot since beta, they've added a new heroes basically every 2 weeks, constant patches, active community (but can be harsh) Worth checking out if you ever enjoyed DoTA or LoL. THIS IS MY REFER LINK. Don't click if these make you mad. Just visit the website normally if so. http://heroesofnewerth.com/ref.php?r=BSM15G0O Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: jakonovski on March 27, 2011, 01:03:07 PM Oh man, I remember this game. I downloaded it, went to play, got torrents of abuse for not knowing how to play, uninstalled.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Der Helm on March 28, 2011, 01:33:48 AM So its like LoL then ? :grin:
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Samprimary on March 28, 2011, 04:23:05 AM I'm watching this closely, because I want to see how S2 deals with the issue of being, well, them.
Apparently part 1 of their strategy was to realize that LoL had them by the balls in the moba arms race, and adopt most of their strategies. Part 2 is likely going to be them trying to significantly and rapidly continue differentiating themselves from DotA, which they copied wholesale, so that they don't become completely irrelevant when DotA 2 is released via Icefrog under Valve. Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Astorax on March 28, 2011, 09:24:37 AM So its like LoL then ? :grin: Take LoL, now remove anyone that was quiet in your games, and replace every quiet person with a raging asshole who's sole purpose in life is to make you feel like less of a human being because you made one mistake...which wasn't really a mistake to anyone OTHER than a mouth-breathing retard that cares more for the game than whether or not they're sitting in their own fecal matter because they can't be bothered to go to the bathroom properly. Now you have HoN's community. Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Teleku on March 28, 2011, 07:42:32 PM And frankly I haven't ran into that many raging douche bags in LoL recently. The vast majority of the games have either been polite, or the asshole only came out raging/taunting as the game was ending for parting shots.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Ashamanchill on March 28, 2011, 08:45:40 PM I've got to second was Astorax said. I personally didn't play the game, but two friends that did said it had the vilest community they had ever seen. Apparently chat consisted of nothing but verbal abuse and racism.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Trouble on March 29, 2011, 12:18:02 AM I've played a little on and off. The community is pretty vile on average though I've less problems than people above have mentioned. Haven't played LoL so can't comment on differences. The Valve "DOTA 2" issue is interesting though. With all I read about it basically indicating majority of their efforts were focused on the community aspect I had to laugh but it makes sense.
This is esssentially a community built GENRE which in itself is pretty cool. But it suffers from the issue that it was built for and by "good" gamers, with no commercial interest for basically all of its formulation. It's kind of similar to bringing Counter-Strike to market...which interestingly (and I suspect not coincidentally) was also Valve. Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Astorax on March 29, 2011, 09:33:24 AM I've played a little on and off. The community is pretty vile on average though I've less problems than people above have mentioned. Haven't played LoL so can't comment on differences. The Valve "DOTA 2" issue is interesting though. With all I read about it basically indicating majority of their efforts were focused on the community aspect I had to laugh but it makes sense. This is esssentially a community built GENRE which in itself is pretty cool. But it suffers from the issue that it was built for and by "good" gamers, with no commercial interest for basically all of its formulation. It's kind of similar to bringing Counter-Strike to market...which interestingly (and I suspect not coincidentally) was also Valve. Although DotA's rise to power had nothing to do with Valve...DotA 2 is Valve of course, but the original wasn't affiliated in any way with it. Just as a point of clarity. Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Der Helm on March 31, 2011, 04:03:08 AM Take LoL, now remove anyone that was quiet in your games, and replace every quiet person with a raging asshole who's sole purpose in life is to make you feel like less of a human being because you made one mistake...which wasn't really a mistake to anyone OTHER than a mouth-breathing retard that cares more for the game than whether or not they're sitting in their own fecal matter because they can't be bothered to go to the bathroom properly. Now I want to give it a try. :grin:Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Samprimary on March 31, 2011, 06:14:30 AM I have to wonder what it's like to be a HoN employee. You have to go through the rigamarole of "We love and appreciate you, the customer! Yay!" while mutely understanding that you have one of the worst community bases in all of gamingdom and it is strangling the life out of your company.
Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Der Helm on April 01, 2011, 03:09:01 PM Ok, I have tried to create an account for 10 minutes now. 5 Minutes I searched for a "create account" button, now I can't even log in with the account I supposedly created a few seconds (now minutes) ago.
:awesome_for_real: Title: Re: Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone Post by: Samprimary on July 29, 2011, 11:33:49 AM HoN just went free to play. And — I swear to god — this has to be the only situation in which the scenario of goung F2P actually stands a chance of improving a game's community.
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