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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090711/film_nm/us_reynolds

Which is is he supposed to be? Fairly drunk article didn't seem to tell.

Hal Jordan, I believe.

Indeed, Reynolds is supposed to be Hal Jordan.

Good enough casting I guess.  I've been looking forward to this movie since Martin Campbell directed the only two Bond movies I've really liked since View to a Kill.

I don't even like Green Lantern.

But Ryan Reynolds? Sign me the hell up.

Not a bad call, when you consider that Justin Timberlake was one of the other choices.

However, I think that Ryan Reynolds would make a better Guy Gardner than Hal Jordan.

Sources say Vinny Chase didn't get the movie because the producer hated him.

Ah, kind of a bummer.

Maybe it's because I never read any Green Lantern, so my only knowledge of the character came from Superfriends and Justice League, but I was hoping they would go with Jon Stewart.  I just loved how he was this militant protector of the galaxy and used his power ring directly.  Yeah, I know they got into the giant green boxing gloves and whatnot towards the end of the series, but the corny stuff didn't show up too much.

That being said, what I DO want to see in this movie is something like the Justice League episode "Hearts and Minds".  That initial space battle scene where everyone but Katma and Killowog died kicked so much ass.  I want to see green lanterns slicing through gigantic space cruisers and a couple guys taking on a whole navy!  I think it's been said before, but this movie shouldn't be mostly Earthbound; it should be a super-hero space opera.

Having the actual Green lanter Corps featuring in this movie would be awesome, throw in some really cool space battles and stuff. I think that would be the way to GL properly but they're probably going to go with the 'alien menace threatens earth' angle and probably have some guidance from the previous GL who dies and and gives Hal the ring. If this were a few years back before they started attempting super hero movies with no thought to the canon I'd have said they probably wouldn't mention the corps at all and just have a guy find a nifty ring that lets him shoot energy, nowadays it's just possible that they'll actually take the character from the comics rather than loosely basing an action movie around him.

I think Nathan Fillion would have been a better choice, but I dig Reynolds, so yeah, we'll go with that. Reynolds would have been better as a Wally West Flash, but with them bringing Barry Allen back as the Flash, I imagine any Flash movie would use that character instead.

Revealed with Comicon was the costume and an upcoming Entertainment Weekly cover:

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f27/taolurker/EWcover.jpg)

I still can't believe Ryan Reynolds.. Probably will be a teaser or trailer incoming soon.

And just because it was mentioned on another forum:

Almost turned this into a new thread in Movies, but assumed Trippy can do that.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/07/15/green-lantern-ryan-reynolds/

Am I the only person in the Internets not outraged at the costume? Everybody seems to be going "RARRR! Glowing and therefore WRONG!" I'm like, guys, it's green, it even has a big old lantern symbol, and FFS he's wearing a mask that looks straight out of the comics!

The costume doesn't really bother me at all either.

I think that's the problem  :awesome_for_real:

Pfft, it's fucking green lantern, third string dc spaceman superhero. You're going to need to have a certain level of geekiness to even know more about him than "can make giant green fists" he could be wearing prada and most people wouldnt know so long as it was green.

But if they just wanted people who read blackest night to show up to the theater they could have just you know animated for a fraction of the budget.

I'll be surprised when they make a comic book movie and people aren't outraged about the costume.

This isn't even based of the comic book custom, its like "so our main character is the green latern and wears spandex, bring in the gay fashion designer fast.

Iron Man.

The Iron Man armor was perfect. 

Yep totally. At least someone got it right. Also Hulk for what it's worth! They even made a point of the purple pants!

That was my point, yes. Sure there were a couple of people who didn't like it, but for hte most part people were thrilled.

People are pissed about that costume? I'm surprised that it's that close to the traditional look, honestly.

that's traditional.
also traditional
much cooler but its john stewart so..

Spider Man. 

I don't recall anybody complaining about how it looked (thought it was perfect myself)...

Now that's gay fashion designer. Holy crap, it's even cuter than Brandon Routh's red boy-shorties and little brown booties. No dramatic pose can make a leotard look manly. Ever.

Has anyone seen the animated DCU Green Lantern movie? I hadn't heard about it till recently.

I should get all those. I loved the Justice League series.

DCUA movies have pretty much all been really good, it's nice to see some grown up western animation for once.

Also that costume is horrible as hell, not because it isn't like the comic costumes but because it is. Spiderman and Batman both showed you can do stupid comic book costumes and make them work, what they've gone for (barring the Lantern symbol) just looks really, really generic. There are a lot of different Green Lantern costumes out there and it seems odd that they'd depart totally from them in favour of something that would fit into pretty much any other movie without causing you to blink. Part of that makes me think the movie isn't going to be great just because in these movies things like the costume are so basic that if they've screwed that up it doesn't bode well for adapting everything else well. Or maybe Superman Returns just made me a cynic.

The Reynolds costume looks better to me than all the comic pics being linked.  I like the sharp lines of the mask, it reminds me of the earliest Alan Scott stuff. 

The Justice League movie was real good, but nothing like the series you are used to.  Batman was kind of a creepy dude in that one.  I liked the style of the art.

The Green Lantern one was also good.  It has been described as "Training Day" in space.

Public Enemies... not so good.  At all.  The characters looked like total shit - like an 12 year old's scribblings of some bodybuilder's wet dream, and Superman's face makes him look like he's retarded.  The "story" was totally ridiculous and full of plot holes and was just an excuse to get a bunch of characters to fight each other.  Lex went apeshit and acted totally out of character and there was a lame ass faux-sacrifice scene.

I haven't seen the others.

Yes but even something that gay is better than that shit ryan reynolds is wearing.

Costume's fine. It's his hair that bothers me.

Yeah, with the hair he looks like a skinny Will Ferrel.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/314vgWgeJmL._SL160_.jpg)

Actually you're wrong. I know it's just an opinion, but I know for a fact, and can provide charts, that your opinion is retarded.

Yeah, the movie Lantern costume seems painfully generic to me but it's still a better choice than green and black spandex. Why they seem to have gone for Kyle Rayner's hair rather than his costume baffles me though.

Likely a Bloodworth, but I just saw this today and thought it was pretty awesome.

Fan Made Green Lantern Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hTiRnqnvDs)

I want to see this movie.

Yeah, that trailer made everyone go "GIVE IT TO NATHAN FILLION". Oh well, I'm not hating on Reynolds as much as I was before with this project. My favorite part of that fan trailer is that they made the tweaks to the WB and DC titlecards. Very simple change that really makes it a lot more effective.

Kilowog!

http://io9.com/5608646/first-look-at-green-lanterns-alien-trainer-kilowog

Trailer

Apple: http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/greenlantern/ (http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/greenlantern/)

Damn, beat me by 2 seconds.

Looks pretty cool, based on my admittedly limited knowledge of the GL comics.

I'm not entirely happy with how it looks to be honest, there's a lot of the rubber effect going on with the cg

Kinda looks cheesy. Not really digging the CGI either.

Meh.

One can only hope there is enough time to come up better suits.  I suppose it's too late to do anything about Ryan's "Leave it to Beaver" style acting.

what? this movie looks about as 'done' as it's gonna get. there is no way they are going back and re-doing all the suits. This is unfortunate because they look very jarring to me. Take the alien that crashes and gives him the ring. It's fine, actor in make up and looks good up until....big fake cg hand! why? because his hand was covered by the suit which apparently must be cgi at ALL times.

Damm. That CGI suit looks bad.

The end where Ryan is "breathing heavily" after suiting up? Terrible. The abs on the suit look shitty stupid.

I could get past the costume stuff if anything else in that trailer looked appealing.  I don't want to go all comic book nerd here, but the Hal Jordan shown here in this trailer doesn't have any resemblance to the character in the comics (even at the start of his career as Green Lantern as shown in Geoff Johns current run).  Too much humor and too little confidence.  Also, Blake Lively delivers some pretty wooden dialog.  Not looking forward to this one as much now.

I think what they're going for thematically is how Hal is overcome with fear, probably after the accident, and learns to be fearless after suiting up, having a crisis occur as a result of his fear, then overcoming it and excelling with his powers.

That's the character arc I gleamed from the trailers.

MEH.

According to IMDB/Wikipedia, the big bad is Parallax* who induces fear in people or something. So, yes, the theme is fear.




I think I liked this film better when it was called "Batman Begins".


*I know nothing about Green Lantern. The character never appealed to me as a kid, teenager or now as an adult and this trailer doesn't sell it to me either.

Yeah, it's just that it's more like Kyle's character than Hal's.  Kyle is the one that needed to overcome fear after becoming a Green Lantern.  To paraphrase the comics, Hal doesn't feel like he has anything left to fear, having already lived through his worst fear when he was a kid.  Even as a rookie Green Lantern, he's portrayed as almost being over-confident.

You people are broken. I thought the trailer looked pretty damn good, and I didn't mind the CGI suit at all.

I could go on about the suit because it does look like shit. Real face + CGI body looks bad bad bad but let's take a moment to reflect on the acting.  Did anything in that trailer seem anything else but formulaic trite? Reynolds can on occasion be funny but generally when he's a little over the top. Any time he tries to put on his serious actor face he comes off as lame and uncharismatic.

The only lame part I thought was Blake Lively seeming a bit stiff in her delivery. Everything else I'm down with.

I don't remember anything from the comics, so when I saw a trailer for this in the theater the other day I couldn't even tell what it was about. I confusedly asked my wife if that was some kind of alternate universe Batman and she kindly filled me in on it being Green Lantern.

Was the comic that bad?? Because the trailer was horrible.  The GL guy was made out to be a clueless screwup and Cato seemed like the Pink Panther's trainer/sidekick/housemate guy but without the slapstick humor. I dunno, but the trailer left me totally confused and uninterested.

i thought it was fine. Because I know the comic book. Sorry, gang, you CANNOT do that much to revisualize and retell the story of a test pilot who inherits the most powerful weapon in the universe by accident, joins a legion of space cops who all wear green and charge their rings with power batteries, has bosses who are giant blue big-head types, etc.

or, well, you can, but only either by taking the "dude has most powerful weapon in the universe, what's he gonna do" plot in  a direction very unlike the comic book, or by making it into Hill Street Blues in Space (see Alan Moore's "Top Ten" for more guidance). You want to stick to the basics of green-suited guy with ring who is an accidental space cop, ring can make giant green fists, it's going to look by most standards cheesy. I thought the trailer looked better than I expected it to in this sense, really.

The CGI looked wonky.

However, the bigger issue here is the script. They appear trying to build the entire Lantern mythos in one film, which just screams out to me that this film is going to be more 'Daredevil (Theatrical Cut)' than 'Batman Begins'.

Let me put it this way.  This doesn't look like a movie about Hal Jordan becoming a Green Lantern.  It looks like a movie about Ryan Reynolds becoming a Green Lantern.  For the legion of people who don't know anything about the character, I'm sure ithat won't be a problem.  For me though, I think they completely missed the point of the character.  This is still an early trailer though so I could be surprised still.  The next one needs to show some bits of either the relationship between him and his father, or him and Sinestro.

You know, while I absolutely hated the storyline that brought Kyle Rayner into the role of Green Lantern, I don't think that Hal Jordan was ever much of a character until recently. For the vast majority of his history, he was a test pilot who was occasionally portrayed as daring, devil-may-care, macho in a test-piloty way but who also had various other careers like "driving around the country with Green Arrow and a little old guy" and "door-to-door toy salesman" (yes  :pedobear: really).  Dude had a racist caricature of a sidekick long after most other comic-book characters had left that kind of baggage behind. He was not the sleeps-with-anything-that-has-tits guy until quite recently: for most of his history he was pretty much pussywhipped by Carol Ferris, who occasionally got on a supervillain costume to pussywhip him even more effectively.

His characterization was basically a stolid, kind of boring, guy. Then post-Crisis he loosened up a little bit and started banging an underage alien girl who used her Green Lantern ring to grow bigger tits. And then a bit later, Gerald Jones finally did some pretty good character development on Jordan, giving him more of a past, a bit more psychological depth, and some of the family backstory. Geoff Johns' recent backstory work on Jordan's origin is just that: totally recent. I suspect it's based on access to early screenplay treatments for the film, particularly in its use of Sinestro and Hector Hammond.

There is no Hal Jordan to mistreat, really: the most interesting work on the character is work that connects to the film treatment. He doesn't have a deep history of complex or interesting portrayals to work with (or betray clumsily).

What I got from the trailer was "look, we can make Ironman also."

Are you talking about the Green Hornet trailer?  That seems to be what you're describing there.

I think he probably is talking about Green Hornet.  Which from what i remember of the old series is pretty much a parody of Batman mashed up with Inspector Gadget (in the sense that Kato is similar to Penny, the capable sidekick that almost always saves the day, while the Lead is the bumbling idiot trying to do the right thing and takeing all the credit).

New version Green Hornet, yes. Old version Green Hornet with Bruce Lee, no.

I think you overestimate the stuff about Jordan's father. That was all fairly recent and I don't think really defines the character so much as it adds to the basic, one-line bit about Jordan being able to master his fears. Until recently, there was more character to Kyle Rayner than Hal Jordan.

I don't read comics these days, and I never read Green Lantern when I did but thanks for confirming what I DID recall of him.   I watched the trailer and thought that it was all wrong the whole time.  I didn't think Hal Jordan was some campy douchebag quick with the one liners and prone to phrases like, "I know, right?!"

I think Velorath summed it up best when he said it looks like a movie about Rneolds becoming Green Lantern, not Hal Jordan.   Even as a guy only vaguely familiar with the character that's what I took away from the trailer.  They appear to be banking on the general population's complete unfamiliarity with Hal Jordan.  Those who would only know who Green Lantern is from the Justice League cartoon.. you know, the black guy.   :awesome_for_real:

In the minds of the general public, they don't even know how Green Lantern is. He is almost a blank slate for anyone who is not already a comics fan. There are literally no preconceived notions for the people the studio is trying to sell this movie to. Hint: that audience is not comic book geeks. We'll go see it no matter what because it's a comic book movie. If they have to mix Rayner's personality with Jordan's backstory, they will. I'm pretty easy on comic book movies these days. As long as they don't make me wretch like the Punisher movies or Spider-Man 3, I'm good.

Who was the pacifist who had to kill the Korean after he bailed out of his plane?

Bruce Wayne baseline: father, mother killed. Takes vow to fight crime. Dresses up as a bat when he's a young man to fulfill vow. A bit weird, eh? Has butler named Alfred.

Clark Kent: alien from destroyed planet! Sent in rocket as kid! adopted by nice Midwestern parents. Reporter for Daily Planet. In love with Lois Lane. Has weird uncomfortable homerotic relationship with Jimmy Olsen.

Diana Prince/Wonder Woman: lesbian hottie from island of bondage fetishists who worship Greek gods, sent to man's world to bring peace to us all and get tied up a lot. Or, nobody in particular beyond strong lady in bathing suit.

Flash: fast guy.

Hawkwoman/Hawkman: um, like it sounds?

Martian Manhunter: excuse me?

Green Lantern: dude with ring. Outer space and shit. What, his name is Hal Jordan? That's nice.


Hal Jordan means nothing to anyone really.

To people who've read REALLY recently, maybe he's a concrete character, but much of his recent writing has been by people with a hand in the screenplay. (Just like Iron Man's comic now reads like a retrofitting of the character to Robert Downey Jr.'s characterization.) Hal Jordan for the last forty years? Bland, bland, bland, bland, PUSSYWHIPPED, bland, bland, bland HOLY SHIT TEST PILOT WHO FUCKS TEENAGERS bland bland HAD A TOUGH CHILDHOOD bland bland BANGS HOT CHICKS bland bland KILLED EVERYONE IS A VILLAIN please forget please forget HE IS THE SPECTRE A GHOST FROM GOD NOW bland RESET RESET IT WAS A MONSTER THAT DID IT NOT HAL JORDAN kinda bland but with lots of banging-esque stuff DAD WAS A TEST PILOT SINESTRO WAS HIS FRIEND HERE IS THE MOVIE HE IS DEEP and oh by the way there are tons of differently colored other Lanterns.

You cannot "betray" the character of Hal Jordan. If he's "Ryan Reynolds finds a ring that's all powerful" that's as faithful to the comic as anything else.

That's actually not really true.

To be fair, when I was in college people were talking enthusiastically about Green Lantern. They described him as an idiot who would be the most powerful guy in the universe... if he had the intelligence to have any imagination. That's pretty much all I know about the character.

I think (Morrison's?) All Star Batman pretty much took that view of the character, dude with the most powerful weapon in the world who used it to make giant green boxing gloves and was weak to yellow things. The movie looks way more like they wanted to follow the Iron Man school with a wise cracking, good times lead who also has awesome powers. I'm not really offended at reworking Hal Jordan (because his character was largely either bland or happily altered to ridiculous extremes by writers, hello Parallax!) but I am disappointed they're trying to make Iron Man 2.0. Mostly because that's already been made and that film works so well precisely because the actor/script/effects were all just write (the first especially). The costume looks bad and could probably have benefited from less CGI and I have doubts about the lead. Just because if he tries to play Robert Downey Jr. he probably isn't going to be as good and the whole film is just going to be a worse version of Iron Man.

It'll probably make money because Iron Man was an awesome film and huge fun and even a worse version of that is probably going to be ok to switch off and sit through but after the disaster that was Superman and the success of the Batman films I would have hoped they'd have tried for some depth. The more I think about it though it's pretty hard to add any depth to "Dude gets given ring by alien, becomes space cop and punches people with giant green boxing glove." Sinestro could provide a nice dramatic villain with some depth but it seems a bit much to throw the whole Green Lantern Corps at people and then have Jordan move on to fighting Intergalactic fascism. The film really needs to happen on earth.

As long as it's not as bad as the Fantastic Four movies I'm ok with everything.

Then again, I'm not a comic book nerd in any shape or form.

I think it's clear the screenplay is borrowing from Johns' recent redo of the origin or vice-versa--it's like trying to sort out what Fraction's doing with the Iron Man title, which borrows from the films, but where Marvel is clearly working to synchronize the way the character is developed in every property he appears in (current Avengers cartoon is also very Downey-ized Stark).

There was some contact between the screenwriters and Johns but not really to the point of collaboration that I think you're implying (Johns doesn't have any credit on the screenplay, and you'd be hard-pressed to point out any indication that Johns is making the comic character Ryan Reynolds-ish or reworking the comic at all to fit in more with the movie).  In fact one of the screenwriters mentioned in an interview that they were finishing up a draft of the screenplay when the Secret Origins arc was coming out, and while they read the arc and found it interesting how Johns tackled some of the same problems they had (why Abin Sur would need to fly a spaceship is the example they gave), it didn't sound like they had taken anything directly from Johns' writing.

I really think there has to have been some conversations going at the company level about the character, in part because DC in general is under pressure from above to match Marvel's currently superior planning about developing their intellectual property, which includes some integration of comics treatments and film ones. The film really looks to me visually and otherwise to be an attempt to "Iron Man" the character, and that's not just about a script, but about a gentle reboot of the character's whole presentation. I have a hard time believing that Johns and the scriptwriters just completely coincidentally thought along some of the same lines.

To possibly provoke a nerd fight, I was disappointed that DC actually brought back Hal Jordan. He was (and this goes back to when I read comics regularly) never that interesting a character.

I think it's a little bit early to talk about Marvel's superior planning.  Most of their previous successes have been due to licensing Spidiey out to Sony, and the X-Men out to Fox.  It remains to be seen if Thor, Captain America, and the Avengers will equal Iron Man's success.  Meanwhile, DC has Nolan's Batman stuff which not only has bigger box office numbers, but improved dramatically from the first movie to the second, while a lot of people found Iron Man 2 to be disappointing.

Marvel has also reportedly done a poor job of keeping actors on side with negotiations around payment. There is an attitude they've got that they can keep actor salaries down while at the same time keeping them coming back for the films.

Sure, it is difficult to argue that receiving $7m for a film means we should feel sorry for the actor, but when Marvel is pulling in $200m+ and the actor might get paid more for another movie, there are reasons why Marvel's stinginess could backfire.

Don't confuse box office $ with revenue.

Where Your Money Goes for a $9 Movie Ticket (breakdown) (http://www.dvdtown.com/news/money-mag-where-your-money-goes-for-a-9-movie-ticket-breakdown/6761)

um...

True, but then no movie ever makes any money.  :grin:

Somehow I see this as a B-grade movie trying to be taken as seriously as a triple-A effort like Iron Man. Let's face it: the Marvel characters are just *better* for movies (exception: Batman) because of the fact that they are more complicated, interesting characters, production values aside. Their stories allow for character arcs to play out in a 2 hour span. DC just doesn't have that. They need to fabricate character arcs.

I like Ryan Renoylds, a LOT. But the problem with this movie is that he's dealing with a character that has nothing for him to act towards, so it's Ryan Renoylds as Green Lantern. The wonder of the characters are solely in his powers and not with anything to do with his personality or issues. So Ryan's takes over.

I can see flaws in my argument there. I haven't followed every single issue of Lantern, but when I think of DC characters, I only think of their powers and not any of the social ramifications they deal with that are disconnected from their powers. Again, exception: Batman.

tldr: what Khaldun said

I disagree somewhat but then this thread moves into nerds arguing about minor details regarding characters 99% of people have never heard of. Suffice to say that I think there's the possibility for interesting stories to be told about many of DC's characters even if the movies always focus on 'This guy has superpowers!' Spiderman movies could be just about a guy that can stick to walls and you'd be left thinking that's all he is rather than getting some storytelling mileage out of a troubled teen trying his best to be a hero. Superman movies for me are always disappointing, possibly because it's so easy to just have Superman! and the whole Clark Kent in a phone booth thing is so strongly ingrained in popular psyche. How is someone leading a good life, struggling with living up to an impossible ideal they themselves have created all the while living in a world of people they could accidentally shred apart a mundane and one-dimensional source for telling stories? I mean aside from the fact that so many people who tackle it seem to think that all they need is someone in a cape and some green rock.

Reynolds would definitely make a better Kyle Rayner than Hal Jordan.

This has ALWAYS been the case, IMO, and a large part if not all of that is to Stan Lee's credit.   DC's characters, while more iconic, have always felt shallower.  Even Bats, who is my favorite character, owes most of his depth to revisions and other writers finding interesting hooks to weave into the character, rather than a deliberate effort on his creators' or DC's part.

I think he'd make a better Guy Gardner personally.

I think he'd make a better stand up comedian, but the producers failed to ask my opinion.  Their loss.

Not so much thinking box office per se, but Marvel has a much more coherent plan for the integrated development of their intellectual property across multiple media. It's possible the whole Avengers thing isn't gonna work out in the movies, but in the meantime, it's pushing a raft of well-selling comics out the door, it's got a cartoon on TV, and so on. The company is just a lot better at the moment looking over their characters and figuring out how to sell them in a total media marketplace.

The Avengers have been a top selling comic since Bendis took over (sadly) many years ago.  They're also been consistently getting beaten in sales by the main Green Lantern series, and Brightest Day.  That said, nobody is going to be bragging about comic sales at the moment (except for maybe Walking Dead's strong TPB sales) as they've been pretty horrid all around, and aside from maybe some trades selling better at bookstores for a month or two, there doesn't seem to be any compelling evidence that the movies get people into the local comic shop buying single issues regardless of how you tie them into the movie.  DC's also done well enough with their cartoons and TV series to keep Kevin Conroy steadily employed as the voice of Batman for almost 20 years, and to have Smallville on its 10th season.

Selling single issue comics shouldn't be the aim of DC or Marvel anymore. That ain't where the monies at. The single issues should be seen (from a business standpoint) as a way to build a marketable movie franchise IP.

That's essentially how DC under Warner Bros. has always seen it which is why they've never been under as much pressure to cancel lower selling books as Marvel.

*edit* reading is hard

The first trailer didn't wow me too much, however this new Green Lantern Wondercon (http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/greenlantern/) video looks awesome.

Fuck the character. I just like to see good superhero movies. The trailers aren't giving me a ton of confidence that it'll be anything but reheated hollywood malarkey with a green power ring, but we'll see. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surpised when it comes out on DVD.

That looks fucking awesome!  :grin:

Big budget, charismatic lead actor, lots of action and special effects, throw in the necessary romantic side plot, etc. Looks like an AAA Hollywood summer movie. Kinda hard to fuck that up.

Daredevil.

Catwoman?

Green Lantern, fucking be there.

The Phantom

Batman 3 & 4

Trailer almost makes me want to see it - I hope they do it justice.

Seems like they're merging Hal and Kyle a bit here - Hal is the model of GL, but Kyle added a Peter Parker-like dimension to the character. 

That 4 minutes of footage looks fantastic. Lots of material thrown in there. Still not entirely sure about the look of the suits, but I'll give them some artistic license on that.

The Shadow

Hey now, the shadow was pretty good, in a tongue in cheek kind of way.

Yeah, I liked the shadow too.

Yeah and people liked Alvin and the Chipmunks too.  :drillf:
 :grin:

And the Star Wars prequels.  :awesome_for_real:

That's a lie.

So is the cake.

 :facepalm:

Anyone else find the trailers really underwhelming? Ryan Reynolds reciting that lame little Green Lantern poem is howl-inducing and everything just looks plastic and fake.

I decided not to go see Super 8 (sounds corny) but I will go see GL.  Never been a big fan of GL, but I'm pretty interested in the Corps and RR's portrayal.  Also want to see if DC can duplicate Marvel's success at the movies.

The initial ones were when they tried to make it look like Van Wilder is Hal Jordan.

More recent ones have made it a "OK, I'll check it out with low expectations."

Agree. That inspirational poem is hilarious. I'm not familiar with Green Lantern really, is that something they made up for the movie or is that like his official poem or something?

They were using it in the JLU cartoon, so it's been around for at least that long, probably longer.

It's how Green Lanterns charge their rings.  They recite the oath with their hand held up to the lantern.  It's been around in the comics since the Golden Age Green Lantern, which explains why it's so corny.

Why this movie will suck in two words.

Green jets.


Seriously, are they even halfheartedly trying? Why are jets even necessary, can't the rung make you fly just as fast without creating some elaborate thing? Well, you need toys of course! 

DC movies suck, batman begins is simply the outlier.

I think it just goes to show how unimaginative Hal Jordan is. Swords, gatling gun, AA Cannon... green jets. I just saw the green jets today. I'm guessing that is supposed to be an awesome / funny moment.

It's whatever you can imagine Hal! Use hormone-guided robot hooker bombs or something!

Shit was that Freudian?

Isn't that pretty much one of the hallmarks of the Green Lantern series tho?  Here you have the Green Power Ring, that can literally make anything you can imagine into solid reality, and then they give it to some schmuck who makes Giant Green Boxing Gloves and stuff with it.

A typical Green Lantern moment is someone shoots a fireball at him and he makes a giant green tennis racket and hits it back at them. At least on TV it's always been as corny as hell.

Isn't his weakness the color yellow or some shit? The idea of an intergalactic corps of super cops is pretty appealing, I'll give it that.

It's not so much the color yellow, but the "emotion / feeling" behind the color yellow.

In the Lantern Corps continuity, there are "energies" through the universe, which some beings have learned to harness (like the Force in starwars).  The major ones are associated with the Rainbow Spectrum.

Red = Rage, Orange = Avarice, Yellow = Fear, Green = Will, Blue = Compassion, Indigo = Hope, Violet = Love (and black is death).

Fear and Will are seen as natural enemies.

That's a relatively recent twist on the "color yellow" thing, though. For a very long time in the series, it just was that his ring couldn't affect yellow, which of course led to entire alien armadas that painted everything yellow and so on. Or the infamous scene in Frank Miller's All-Star Batman where Batman paints a room yellow, his costume yellow and so on just so he can punch the shit out of Hal Jordan.

The Golden Age Green Lantern couldn't affect anything made of wood, which is equally silly.

It's a like Superman's weakness to Kryptonite or Thor reverting to his human form if he doesn't have his hammer for 60 seconds.  They're easy crutches for lazy writers to use to create viable threats for some of the more powerful heroes.

Well, that's why I mentioned the Lantern Corps continuity.  When it was just "the green lantern" and no one had come up with the whole 'galactic super cops team' idea yet, green being weak to yellow could have made sense.  Once they branched out into the full on Lantern Teams of different colors, they likely had to change things up a bit.

This is why I don't read comics

Currently at 20% on Rotten Tomatoes:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/green_lantern/

:ye_gods:

Bored of comic movies.. that's expected by now.

Lots of others echoing this.  It's all bang-flash and no story. So it's the Transformers of comic movies.

This review was a woman who looked to be in her late 50's/ early 60's.  Based on that I bet I can guess the "surprising revelation" involves this purple-skinned dude with a yellow ring.

I don't get how anyone expected this to get anything but generally negative reviews. I thought all the trailers looked terrible.

I wasn't impressed at all by the X-Men: First Class trailers.

Edit: not double negative not

The Green Lantern Corps was introduced super-early into the history of the Silver Age character (Hal Jordan) along with the yellow-weakness. The "color yellow is just something that is an issue until you get fully trained" came way, way, way later. The full-spectrum Lanterns of Many Colors came even way laterer than that. We're talking 30 years of stories where the yellow weakness and the "galactic super cops team" were paired together before you get Red Lanterns and all that jazz.

I haven't read a positive review of this yet. IGN hated it. All the reviewers at AICN hated it. In fact, the only positive thing any of the reviewers has said is that Ryan Reynolds is trying really hard but the script and direction are too much for him to overcome. I think this just moved to "wait for On-Demand/Netflix/Cable" for me. Maybe it is something about Green superheroes. I was extremely disapointed in the Green Hornet and now it looks like the Green Lantern is going to be a flop.

I saw a big problem with "Green Lantern" was that they tried to explain the entire backstory of the Green Lantern in one film.

No-one cares.

You've got a magic ring that does whatever non-pr0n requests you make of it? Great, now make with the awesome. Intergalatic cops who dress up funny is so much background blah blah.

I thought First Flight did it pretty good. Hal Jordan without the corps is (http://www.cool-smileys.com/images/201.gif).

Shame, I think Ryan Reynods is a quality actor who keeps ending up in shitty movies.

I stand on the side of the fence that dislikes him, as an actor. This might be in large part due to the fact he gets typecast, but once you get your trend going it's fairly hard to break it in casting and in audience interpretations - I'd say Hanks stands out as how to do it correctly, but even he got a lucky break... time will tell, but this movie is definitely not a Reynolds coming out party.

It's up to 25%! :awesome_for_real:

No doubt; I imagine if you showed his picture to a bunch of people you would probably hear him named 'Van Wilder' more often than Ryan Reynolds. I think there is hope for him though.

But the audience rating has dropped almost 10% since this morning.  :oh_i_see:

What has he been good in? Serious question.

He pretty much ruined Blade 3. Well...that movie was bad anyway, but he certainly made it worse. I can't think of anything he's been in where he elevated the material in any way.

Edit: Not to hate on him too much, I don't think he's bad, he's just kind of there.

Waiting?  :why_so_serious:

I saw it last night.   It was a little better than the previews made it look but that doesn't say much.   They probably would of done better putting it in the 50/60's setting and not trying to explain so much.  Being so faithful to "Hal is dumb and makes giant green boxing gloves" was retarded too.

Ryan Reynolds quips were the ONLY good thing about Blade 3. The rest of it sucked vampire nuts.

Just got back from seeing the movie. It is not NEARLY as bad as the critics and everyone is making it out to be. It ain't great by any stretch of the imagination, but it ain't bad. It's comfortably in the middle. The scriptwriters are what really hosed the movie though. I think they wrote it with the idea that it wouldn't do well enough for a sequel, so they wanted to shoehorn in as much Green Lantern lore as possible, and they ended up putting too much in without letting it really have the weight it deserved. As a result, the ending felt rushed or at least somewhat anticlimactic. I thought the effects were decent, but they suffered from the chosen design sense.

It started with the design of Oa. In the comics, Oa has always been this shining beacon, a pristine, clean, angular scifi planetary palace. There should have been white rooms with almost no shadows. The Guardians were physically right, but their costumes were absolutely silly - 3 foot tall blue midgets with 20 foot long robes that dangle down from their rock spire thrones? PIKA? Oa looked like it had been chaotically carved out of basalt, making the whole place appear chaotic and dark, not the shining beacon of order, peace and justice for the entire universe. That bled into the costumes which were also too dark - which necessitated the need for glowing lines of power that really didn't fit.

The choice of Parallax as the first villain was really a poor one. Wrapping that story up neatly in one movie, especially a movie that deals with the entire origin plus the whole Lantern Corps history AND Jordan's personal relationships AND the Hector Hammond story. It was too much. They did admirably with what they put in, but the movie couldn't really breath. And now any villain for the sequel (and if you stay through the credits or know anything about Lantern mythology, you know who the villain is) will seem weak in comparison to Parallax. They should have gone for Hector Hammond as the villain in the first, with the Sinestro plotline in the background leading to


at the end. Maybe they even bring in Carol Ferris as Star Sapphire for the second movie where the Guardians reveal the Parallax mystery that leads to the third movie, a great big Yellow Lantern/Green Lantern war with the final Parallax resolution in the third movie.

As it is, IF there is a sequel, it will make Parallax seem even weaker than the ending made it seem.

Personally (and I think I go against the grain here) but I was sold on Buried and the fact that he carried that film solidly for 90 minutes under those conditions means he gets a pass from me for a while.  I also quite liked him in "The Nines" which no-one has seen anyway.

I thought he was hilarious in Blade 3 and the best part of the movie.
Adventureland was horrible though.

I didn't read the comics but is it really wrapped up?  I thought:

The major problem is that current DC events have really screwed with the Green Lantern lore while a lot of fans wanted Hal Jordan back and no longer associated with Zero Hour, so Parallax has been retconned (badly, imo) into something different.

I read in some nerd book one time that a lore-relevant reason for the Green Lanterns not being immune to the colour yellow was because the Oa Guardians needed to remind the Lanterns that their powers weren't infinite so as not to be corrupted by it. Now, the Green Lantern mythos resembles some giant Magic: The Gathering tournament played out by characters in spandex.

Not necessarily.

Once again DC proved they can't make any good comic book movie except for Batman series.

I thought it was pretty good, the best thing about something being slated by the critics is that it lowers your expectations.  So you can enjoy something quite average.

Buried was awesome. 

He was the only good thing in buried, the script was terrible, worst film I've seen for quite a while.

Just came out on PPV this week and watched it tonight at home.
I honestly dont know what all the negativity was about. IMHO as a comic book movie it was easily better than Thor and every Hulk ever made and half the Batman movies.
Overall I would give it a thumbs up and would have paid to see it in the theatre.

I liked Green Lantern movie, but I think you are fucking nuts in your comparisons to other better movies.

Which ones were better? Thor, Hulks (only the Norton one was even decent), or the Kilmer/Clooney Batman's?

Thor was better. When you said the Batman movies, I thought you were talking about the recent ones. I try not to acknowledge the Joel Schumaker Batman's as Batman movies, though I did like the Kilmer one for as shitty as it was. I thought the writing in both Hulk films hung together a little better than Green Lantern.

We will have to agree to disagree on Thor. I liked everything that occured in Misgard (especially Odin), hated everything that happened on Earth (He-Man and his men at arms).
Writing? Are you forgetting the 2003 Thor with Nick Nolte and the Hulk dogs?  :grin:

And no definitely was not talking about the recent Batmans, when I said "half the batmans" I meant the bad-neon colored-Arnold half.  :why_so_serious:

The 2003 Hulk with Nick Nolte was better written as a whole. It fell apart a bit at the end, but it didn't have nearly the plot holes or choppiness that Green Lantern did. It suffered from being a bit slow and long and not having enough HULK SMASH, but Green Lantern felt too short with some needed exposition left on the cutting room floor.

I read the green lantern comics growing up, so i was looking forward to this. I also tend to like most of the superhero movies. Out of the ones i've seen this year i would say it comes in last. The x-men: first class, then thor, then captain america, then green lantern. I didn't mind watching it, but it wasn't what i expected. Maybe i just don't think Green Lantern is as cool now as when i was a kid, or maybe the story was just meh. Right now i think Marvel is probably kicking DC in the teeth. If it wasn't for the Batman reboot it would be even more lopsided.

In fairness though, Batman Reboot SHITS over everything else.

And I liked everything else.