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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup 0.5.0
http://sourceforge.net/projects/crawl-ref/files/ (http://sourceforge.net/projects/crawl-ref/files/)

Some thoughts:
Tiles UI is a bit nicer.
Seems randart equip seems to drop more often.
Orc priest and Orc wizard are more common.
Deep dwarf seems pretty cool with a class that can self heal.  Deep Dwarf Berserker seems pretty pimp.
Artificer is another class I don't "get."

EDIT:  0.5.1 is out.

Also, there is a tourney coming up in August at crawl.akrasiac.org (http://crawl.akrasiac.org/).

My new best.  I was doing alright until I was one-shotted by the titan.  Don't know what I could have done.  Having cleared out Lair/Orc/Hive I wasn't sure what to do next. I started going down the main again but that seemed to escalate in difficulty quick.

Ohmigoodness peeps

Transmuters

You would never guess but if you like EXPLOSIONS and MASS CHAOS this is the class for you

Level 8 so far and the game has consisted of walking into rooms full of things that would make my other characters quake in their +1 elven boots and turning their lives (and occasionally my own) into noxious explodey magical hell

Seriously, try it

..... <-- here are all my periods okay

I tried it last night, but I was focusing on unarmed and form changes.  Things were going swimmingly to the point were I was better than spider-form.  So I scribed ice-form.  Mind you I have no ice magic.  So I decide to brute force it.  Cast it over and over hoping to succeed a bit and learn.  Nope started going crazy with tainted magic.  This dies down, I give up and I go down stairs.  Go to use spider form again, boom, tainted magic craziness starts up again nukes me for 2/3rds my hp.  I get swarmed and died.  I guess I did learn something but it wasn't ice magic.

Transmuter seems pretty awesome but it seems to dependent on other magics and start up potion spitting seems more like a supporting ability(and uses a ton of food) than a staight up taking care business skill.

Perhaps I should have been more specific.

Potion creation/exploding are the only spells I use. They are low level so after you train them a bit they almost never fail, even though I've been training weapon skills as well as magic. I'm a kobold so food isn't a problem. Random single orcs/goblins/whatever get stabbed to death; anything more threatening or in large numbers gets hit with a potion of confusion and then stabbed to death.

Shiiit. The one problem with the class is that certain monsters are immune to status effects and resistant to poison. I got a god power that let me enslave undead but still had no way to deal with jellies. Maybe I should have learned one of those form-changing spells after all.

Even so, the death was due to overconfidence on my part and 100% avoidable. Next time!

First fight, with a bat, on level 1 left me with 1 HP and 0 Mana.  Stupid necromancers.

They stopped giving most pure casters starter weapons and pain really sucks as a starter spell.  :/  Since skeletons can't go up stairs, I not sure how viable Necros are any more.

No luck with transmutters.  I guess the the general consensus that hybrids are hard is true.

I am starting to get an idea of how important god selection is.  Vehumet's tighter spell book range is probably better for most casters than Sif Muna.

Pain isn't terrible if you are a Mummy, but being a Mummy is. :awesome_for_real:

I actually did really well with a kobold necromancer earlier and I have no idea why. Took him to level 12, my personal best (I am not very good at this game), before dying on the *first* level of the orc mines because of no AoE whatsoever. Pain and regeneration are awesome though. I didn't learn any raise dead type spells.

e: Has anyone had any luck with enchanters? I keep playing them but can't seem to raise my skills fast enough to survive past dungeon level 5 or so.

I have not tried it but you seem able to toggle off skills to which you apply experience or something.  I like discovering things but I think I am going to have to read up on how that works.  Also what I might do about unallocated points.

I posted my best enchanter in the Hedonist thread. http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=16094.msg606112#msg606112 (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=16094.msg606112#msg606112)

I was Hibernate/Stabbing the hell out of every thing.  One-shotting Hydras is fun.  Early game goals are getting stabbing to a workable level and finding a dagger with fire/ice/vorpal brand. You only get one bite at the apple.  In the future I'd look to fire or earth magic as backup for undead/ ice resistant things.

From my experience, nothing beats a a berserker with an amulet of resist slowing. Kobolds are fun due to being full all the time.

Is there any way to play this shit in a window?  ALT+TAB makes baby Mummy Necromancer cry.

Is there like, a tutorial for this game? Reading this thread makes it sound very interesting, but I am terribad at roguelikes.

Fake Edit: Yes, there is one in game. Awesome.

Yegolev, yours doesnt run in a window? Mine's running in a command-prompt style window; amidoinitwrong?

Ah, sorry, using tiles version.  The non-tiles runs in a cmd-style window.

settings/tile_options

CrawlWiki is starting to get better, but so far the most helpful advice has been from the SomethingAwful threads.

I swear that option was not in that file when I looked the last two times.  I swear!

Thanks for CrawlWiki; pretty helpful so far. Also thanks for the heads up about the tiles version; I just downloaded the first Windows link and didn't even see it.

Edit: Changing "# tile_full_screen" to false still makes the game run in fullscreen mode; I even tried setting a resolution below mine, and setting it to autosize.

Edit2: Fixed. I'm retarded.

It's the file, I tell ya!

Got a SpEn to lvl15.  Damn Vehumet wouldn't give Sticky Flame so moving into fire was a big waste.  I never got poison resist item so I had to bypass hive and swamp.  I wasn't getting what I needed to progress and my old weren't working so well.  I am really starting to dig Mystic Blast.  A lvl 4 magic missile is pretty handy.

Anyone remember the hallway scene from Old Boy?  I'm more-or-less recreating that in a hallway that seems to have no end of kobolds.  Actually my Minotaur Chaos Knight would be fine as rain except for the big kobolds, but then I have gained three levels while chopping these fools into bits, currently level 9.  Mahkleb is pleased!  Good thing, too, since I get some health back from kills.

I had been using . to throw things but then I realized ENTER would work much better, and a few times missing the big kobold at the head of the line led to me killing a kobold further back in the death-queue... which pleased Mahkleb. :awesome_for_real:

Looking at the floor, it just lists the item on top and mentions the floor is very bloody.  I do hope these guys stop coming eventually, would be a sad end here.

A 6x8 room full of kobolds.  Well, it was full of kobolds.  Glad I wasn't playing something stupid like a caster. :why_so_serious:

I still not skilled enough to get anywhere with anything but cheesy sprig casters.  Melee seem to have the least amount of options for getting out trouble.

In my noobishness I'm more inclined to agree with Yegolev. My one foray as a caster ended with me dead somewhere on the first level; I'm rolling with Demonspawn CK now.

To be fair, I started off throwing darts at things and that helps soften up targets, especially if you get a couple levels in Throwing.  Also you can throw daggers and axes.

Have you tried a zerker? :P Seriously...They are beasts. Zerk + Regen + Brother in Arms = Wading through armies of fuckers.

Untimely end due to orc knight.  Also, I forgot about the scrolls of teleportation I had.  Derp!

I finally got a DDBe to post-Lair game.  I found some advice to turn off weapon skills once you have a few levels in them to give armor and fighting a chance to level. Seem to work alright and when I switched to maces to use my god gift, I had plenty of points to train it quick.  That whip scares me.  There is a +4 battleaxe of electrocution that I can buy, but I not sure if I want to go back to axes.  Haven't needed that teleport control ring yet, but it seems like a nice out.  Only found one (bad) amulet so far.  So my dreams of resist slow are unfulfilled.  I am surprise that I have so much piety since I abuse TH like all get out.

So, either what I downloaded from Sourceforge is borked, or I need to compile it myself.

Based on the "install" file, I get the impression I need to compile it. How hard is that to do for someone who has never compiled a program in his life?

http://sourceforge.net/projects/crawl-ref/files/Stone%20Soup/0.5/stone_soup-0.5-tiles-win32.zip/download
How about this one?

Hrm, I guess grabbing the first file with "tiles" in the name isn't always the best plan. I've never been to sourceforge before, so this is all new to me.

ETA -- This seems to be working, thanks! Now to proceed to suck at yet another roguelike.

I mothballed the DDBe in favor of a Mountain Dwarf Fighter who went Trog.  He did get a resist slow amulet and is quite the beast.  He's starting down Swamp, but I am not sure what he can do about the hydra zerg at the bottom.  Maybe Trog will gift me a flaming weapon.  He's cool like that.

DCSS 0.5.1 is out.  This fixes the tile lag issue that some people were having.

305581 Grant the Hacker (level 22, -14/205 (208) HPs)
             Began as a Deep Dwarf Berserker on July 26, 2009.
             Was a High Priest of Trog.
             Shot with an elven arrow by a deep elf master archer (17 damage)
             ... on Level 7 of the Elven Halls on July 31, 2009.
             The game lasted 07:50:47 (72063 turns).

I probably wouldn't go DDBe again, scrapping together enough piety to keep healed is a bitch.

ARISE!

DCSS 0.6.0 (Heizölrückstoßabdämpfung) is out!

0.6 Highlights
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* Removed Divinations spell school.
* Three new gods: Jiyva, Fedhas, Cheibriados.
* Altars for dungeon gods may now appear on levels 2 to 9 instead of the Temple.
* New water based branch: the Shoals, sometimes replacing Swamp or Snake Pit.
* Overhauled AC/EV system. In particular, effect of Dexterity on EV is uncapped.
* Strength has a much greater effect on carrying capacity.
* Slime creatures and ugly things are more interesting and dangerous.
* Many cool new monsters, portal vaults and ammunition brands.

http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/stone-soup-0-6-0-heizolruckstosabdampfung

Haha, cool name.

To explain, Heizölrückstoßabdämpfung is the longest german Isogram.