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Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Kenrick on December 17, 2004, 12:48:38 PM
Seriously. WHAT THE FUCK? (http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/12/17/missouri.fetus/index.html)


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Shockeye on December 17, 2004, 12:53:37 PM
I have no words.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: HaemishM on December 17, 2004, 12:54:55 PM
People are broken.

You can say it over and over, but when something like this comes up, it STILL doesn't make sense.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Paelos on December 17, 2004, 01:13:51 PM
It's been on FoxNews for a while, with the same response from most of my coworkers: pure shock. I myself, find this to be similar to this:

Quote
Woman Jailed in Pregnant Woman's Death
Oklahoma Authorities Say Woman Killed Pregnant Acquaintance, Cut Fetus From Her Womb

The Associated Press

HOLDENVILLE, Okla. Dec. 29 — A woman who had convinced her husband she was pregnant and was even thrown a baby shower killed a pregnant acquaintance and cut the fetus from her womb, authorities said Monday.
Effie Goodson, 37, faces two first-degree murder charges and a kidnapping count in the slaying of Carolyn Simpson, 21, who was six months pregnant, and the fetus.


which happened almost a year ago. Meaning most likely the profile is a deranged woman who has lost it, and who was close to the victim.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Shockeye on December 17, 2004, 01:23:28 PM
Quote from: Paelos
Meaning most likely the profile is a deranged woman who has lost it, and who was close to the victim.

You watch too many CSI and FBI shows. Leave the profiling to the people who are on the case.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Shockeye on December 17, 2004, 01:25:04 PM
Link. (http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/breaking_news/10440903.htm)
Quote
SKIDMORE, Mo. - Authorities have found a healthy newborn girl in Kansas and think it could be the child of slain Bobbi Jo Stinnett.

Nodaway County Sheriff Ben Espey said authorities are awaiting DNA testing to confirm the girl is the child of Stinnett, who was found slain in her northwest Missouri home Thursday afternoon by her own mother.

"It's about as good as we can get, people," Espey said.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Shockeye on December 17, 2004, 01:26:39 PM
Another link. (http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/1152537.html)

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Infant Found
Child taken from murdered mother's womb

Authorities say a baby girl who was apparently cut from her mother's womb has been found in good health.

A Missouri sheriff says authorities are awaiting the results of D-N-A testing to confirm that the girl is the child of Bobbi Jo Stinnett.

The baby is in a Kansas hospital.

A multi-state search had been launched for the infant taken from her murdered mother's womb. Twenty-three-year-old Bobbi Jo Stinnett, of Skidmore, Missouri, was killed Thursday afternoon in her eighth month of pregnancy.

Investigators issued an Amber Alert early Friday.

"The doctors who examined Bobbi Jo gave us information indicating we probably would have a live child if we could find it," Nodaway County Sheriff Ben Espey said Friday. "The child would be in danger because of being one month premature."

"Someone was wanting a baby awful bad," he had said earlier.

Ms. Stinnett's mother found her body Thursday afternoon. The 23-year-old woman had apparently been strangled.

There were no visible signs of struggle and no indication of forced entry into Stinnett's home in this small community of 500 in the northwest corner of Missouri, the sheriff said.

"We know she was alive in the afternoon, within an hour of being found," Espey said.

Espey said investigators were looking for a car that had been reported seen in the driveway at the Stinnett home, a red two-door Honda hatchback from the late 1980s or early 1990s. Officers in neighboring Atchison County saw a car that appeared to match that description early Friday and began chasing it, but lost sight of it after its lights were turned off, he said.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: stray on December 17, 2004, 01:32:40 PM
Quote from: HaemishM
People are broken.


If it comes, I for one will happily embrace the Apocalypse. It'll do us good.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: WayAbvPar on December 17, 2004, 01:39:06 PM
Yeah, the gene pool could use a heavy dose of chlorine at this point.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Paelos on December 17, 2004, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: Shockeye
Quote from: Paelos
Meaning most likely the profile is a deranged woman who has lost it, and who was close to the victim.

You watch too many CSI and FBI shows. Leave the profiling to the people who are on the case.


Which I have, and they've already said this live on the news, but thanks for playing the home game.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Moroni on December 17, 2004, 01:46:18 PM
Combined with the Mexican cannibal, this has been a strange news week. Good thing it is Friday!


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Calantus on December 17, 2004, 02:53:08 PM
This story gave me chills. It's sickening sometimes to hear what the human mind can be capable of.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: schild on December 17, 2004, 05:46:48 PM
I never click on links that say Missouri Fetus.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Azaroth on December 17, 2004, 06:48:13 PM
I have the same policy, strangely enough.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: geldonyetich on December 17, 2004, 06:58:11 PM
Quote from: Article
Espey told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "If the female offender of these two possibly lost a child to a miscarriage, that might be a motive. I don't think she was going to take this child to try to sell it or move it. I think she was probably going to take it because she had lost one through a miscarriage at about six months."

Sounds like overactive hormones were heavily involved here. Nothing too unusual, really. The brain gets wacky when lots of hormones get thrown around it. Fortunately, bubbling crock pots of denied maternal instinct usually have better outlets than this.

Glad to child seemed to have escaped physically unscathed (according to the article). I've got to wonder how the kid would take the news of his or her birth when they're old enough to understand.   Hmm, no, come to think of it a dramatization isn't particularly necessary.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Calantus on December 18, 2004, 04:59:43 AM
Quote from: schild
I never click on links that say Missouri Fetus.


Damn. I gotta be more observative.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Abel on December 19, 2004, 06:01:07 AM
It gets worse :

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Killings of pregnant women are more common than many people realize, The Washington Post reported in Sunday's editions after a yearlong examination of death records.

Using state data and other sources, the newspaper documents the killings of 1,367 pregnant women and new mothers since 1990. It said there were undoubtedly more deaths, and that 13 states said they had no way of knowing how many such deaths occurred.

The Post said several statewide studies have found pregnant women more likely to die of homicide than of any natural cause, and that the deaths cut across racial and ethnic groups.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: daveNYC on December 19, 2004, 08:50:30 AM
That might be a blip caused by the women being more careful about what they do once they discover that they are pregnant.  It's not that so many die in homicides, it's that so few die in other ways.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Dark Vengeance on December 20, 2004, 07:45:46 AM
Quote from: geldonyetich
Quote from: Article
Espey told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "If the female offender of these two possibly lost a child to a miscarriage, that might be a motive. I don't think she was going to take this child to try to sell it or move it. I think she was probably going to take it because she had lost one through a miscarriage at about six months."

Sounds like overactive hormones were heavily involved here. Nothing too unusual, really. The brain gets wacky when lots of hormones get thrown around it. Fortunately, bubbling crock pots of denied maternal instinct usually have better outlets than this.

Glad to child seemed to have escaped physically unscathed (according to the article). I've got to wonder how the kid would take the news of his or her birth when they're old enough to understand.   Hmm, no, come to think of it a dramatization isn't particularly necessary.


(emphasis mine)

I seriously want to know what the fuck you would consider unusual if you think killing a pregnant woman and cutting the fetus from her womb is "nothing too unusual".

How do you not fall down more?

Bring the noise.
Cheers.............


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Signe on December 20, 2004, 08:05:36 AM
I almost suspect the news networks of setting these things up.  I'm sure this will the the televised trial of the century as far as the media is concerned.  What a boon to Court TV if they get to show every minute of a trial that has everything... a very pretty expectant mum, a gruesome murder, unattractive, possibly jealous suspect, baby snatching, the internet, potential insanity plea... the tabloid journos will drool over this story for a very, very long time.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Kenrick on December 20, 2004, 08:14:02 AM
(http://www.foxnews.com/images/148147/5_25_montgomery_lisa_350.jpg)

/shudder

Let's mate her with Scott Peterson and call the baby Satan.  kthx.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Paelos on December 20, 2004, 08:18:38 AM
I think her lack of a chin drove her to kill.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Kenrick on December 20, 2004, 08:22:31 AM
(http://www.foxnews.com/images/148254/5_25_montgomery_lisa.jpg)

Such happier times... Chin and all.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Shockeye on December 21, 2004, 02:51:16 PM
Ok, speaking of what the fuck is wrong with people.

In the store right now I am listening to a woman sing "Amazing Grace" into her cell phone as her ringer.

WTF


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Murgos on December 21, 2004, 03:19:52 PM
It think it weirder that you posted to f13 standing in line at a store.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Shockeye on December 21, 2004, 03:54:12 PM
I work here. We're an antique shop. And if I was in line at a store and this happened, you better damn well believe I'd post it from there as well.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Abagadro on December 21, 2004, 03:58:47 PM
Some deconstruction (http://slate.msn.com/id/2111254/) of the Post story on rampant killing of pregnant women.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Calantus on December 21, 2004, 09:07:46 PM
Did she sing well?


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: schild on December 21, 2004, 09:11:58 PM
Quote from: Abagadro
Some deconstruction (http://slate.msn.com/id/2111254/) of the Post story on rampant killing of pregnant women.


There are many places more interesting than Slate.

In response to the original post - My hate for humans stems from being scared silly by their unpredictability.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: geldonyetich on December 21, 2004, 11:15:52 PM
Quote from: Dark Vengeance
I seriously want to know what the fuck you would consider unusual if you think killing a pregnant woman and cutting the fetus from her womb is "nothing too unusual".

How do you not fall down more?


Matter of scope, DV, matter of scope.   As you live in a wonderful bubble of ultra-conservatism, you have a hard time understanding what mental illness is even though I've seen pleanty of evidence you are in the grips of at least one kind.   For example, your obsessive-compulsive habit of trying to find vulnerabilities in every little thing I write.

Thus, you probably didn't bother to read that part of this thread that explained there's been over a thousand such incidents since 1990.   (Granted, not every one involved actually stealing the still living fetus.)   Though the media would like you believe otherwise, this is not that unusual in the big picture.

I'm sure you'll say something cutting in reply.   Fine, you do that.   I honestly have better things to do than engage in another slapfight with you right now.    That is to say, I have absolutely nothing else to do and existance by default has higher priority than dealing with your going out of your way to be an anal retentive dick in my proximity.

For the love of everything that's holy, do not reply to another one of my posts again.   We've more than enough evidence that nothing good ever comes of it, so why do you keep trying?


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Hanzii on December 21, 2004, 11:29:57 PM
Read the article Ab linked to!
We don't need to wait for DV to come and call you stupid, stupid.

Fortunately even in your messed up country this is a pretty unusual occurence - in the number you spout without research is included every killing in which the victim just happened to be preggers - sad, but not a rampant crimewave targetting the pregnant or any such nonsense.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: geldonyetich on December 21, 2004, 11:34:32 PM
Quote from: hanzii
Fortunately even in your messed up country this is a pretty unusual occurence - in the number you spout without research is included every killing in which the victim just happened to be preggers - sad, but not a rampant crimewave targetting the pregnant or any such nonsense.


Never said it was.  The scope of my idea of "not unusual" was bigger than yours, that's all.

If it bothers you, take more Viagra.  

It won't work to expand your scope if you're really as close minded as you're pretending to be, but it may make you feel better.

I'm kinda done with half-assed assessments that anyone who doesn't agree with the ego-mass is a dumbass.  Ban me if you want to make an issue out of it.   I've got a dung beetle for an avatar pic and a title that allows everyone to read my posts to prejudge them in advance as "fagging up" any thread it's involved in.   What a loss it would be if I lost that.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Dark Vengeance on December 22, 2004, 05:27:52 AM
Jesus Christ, geld, even the Manson family didn't cut the live fetus out of Sharon Tate (though they reportedly considered doing so), let alone try and keep it and raise it as their own. When a crazy bitch without a chin premedidtates such a horrific act, then goes through with it, it is a goddamn aberration.

That was the point. That's why the thread is titled "What the fuck is wrong with people?" instead of "hey look *yawn*, another stolen fetus."

My "wonderful bubble of ultra-conservatism" happens to be that of a middle class guy in MOTHERFUCKING DETROIT. I hang out in some pretty hairy parts of town. I've had guns pulled on me before. It's not exactly like the Cass Corridor is the fucking ivory tower.

Trust me, you do not want to do this today. I am being nice, and giving you a personal warning.

Bring the noise.
Cheers.............


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Paelos on December 22, 2004, 06:17:19 AM
You two can't play nice in any forum, can you?


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Dark Vengeance on December 22, 2004, 06:30:42 AM
I *was* playing nice.

If there was a decision made that I'm not allowed to call someone a dumbass for saying this story is "nothing too unusual", I failed to get the memo.

Bring the noise.
Cheers............


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Shockeye on December 28, 2004, 11:23:17 PM
Ok, wtf is wrong with these people (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4698832,00.html)?

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COLUMBIA, Mo. (AP) - Next summer, it will be legal to plunge into some Missouri rivers and grab catfish by hand - a type of fishing that is not for the faint of heart.

Known variously as noodling or hogging, handfishing has long been a misdemeanor punishable by fines, because state officials fear it depletes breeding-age catfish. It can also be dangerous: Noodlers hold their breath for long periods under water and sometimes come up with fistfuls of agitated snakes or snapping turtles instead of fish.

That does not discourage enthusiasts, who insist there is great sportsmanship in fishing with your bare hands.

It gets better. A little google-fu brought me to this gem (http://www.themaneater.com/article.php?id=20387).

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Noodling is an ancient fishing method in which the fisherman wiggles his or her hand underwater near a bed of fish in hopes that a catfish will bite or, even better, swallow his hand. The fisherman then pulls the catch, which can weigh up to 250 pounds, out of the water.

Make sure you check out the picture (http://www.themaneater.com/pictures/2004-12-10/wierdness.jpg). The look on the younger guy's face is priceless. I have visions of his father abusing him as a child with catfish.

WTF is wrong with these people?


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Abagadro on December 28, 2004, 11:36:58 PM
You forgot the caption:

"I dun got me a great big fish, Pa."

"That's some good eatin Cletus."


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: ClydeJr on December 29, 2004, 09:33:25 AM
Somebody actually made a movie out of noodling (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0294805/). I'll have to Netflix that thing...


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Boogaleeboo on December 29, 2004, 04:48:54 PM
God forbid they not get their food from the supermarket like the rest of you overfed cows.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Shockeye on December 29, 2004, 05:00:39 PM
Quote from: Boogaleeboo
God forbid they not get their food from the supermarket like the rest of you overfed cows.

God forbid everyone in the world get P.O. Boxes and you have nowhere left to deliver.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Boogaleeboo on December 29, 2004, 05:05:57 PM
Please, I'm union. I'd still be making 20 an hour with a hundred other guys waiting on that 1 letter a 97 year old woman sends to her great-grandkids. Selling out to the government is ALWAYS worth it.

The guys that fish with dynamite, now that's fucked up.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Abagadro on December 29, 2004, 05:56:13 PM
Your affinity for the inbred is touching.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Boogaleeboo on December 29, 2004, 06:08:18 PM
It's a skill, and one that puts food on the table. You are a lawyer. If there was anyone that should have learned not to take potshots at people for what they do to put food on the table, I'd imagine it'd be you.

Sadly, people too stupid to learn from experience. Of course that's pretty much the entire basis of your profession.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Abagadro on December 29, 2004, 08:39:03 PM
Insulting the profession that I just left is so 3 months ago.  Nice try though.

Seeing as how I've done it (killed for my dinner that is) and I image that you have not as you are typically full of shit, feel free to continue spew your incesant babble. It's your raison d'etre after all.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Boogaleeboo on December 29, 2004, 09:04:50 PM
As you've just copped to doing the exact same thing, I'm really not sure what more I have to say. As for leaving the profession? There's that joke about bridgebuilders and cocksuckers, if you don't know it now is as good a time to learn as any.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Abagadro on December 29, 2004, 09:14:48 PM
I love your content free posts.  Very, um, spacial.

Frankly, I have a hard time keeping your affectations straight these days between the hard core Hobbesian and champion of the toothless.  Maybe you do too.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Boogaleeboo on December 29, 2004, 09:29:39 PM
? It's a fairly old joke, and variations of it are told everywhere.

Man walks into a bar and orders a drink. He sits down, drinks his drink and orders another.

He tells the bartender "I've painted thousands of portraits in my life, but do they call me Maurice the Painter?"

He drinks his drink and orders another.

"I've built hundreds of bridges in my life, but do they call me Maurice the Bridge Builder?"

He drinks his drink and orders another.

"Suck one cock."

I found it fitting considering your previous occupation.

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Frankly, I have a hard time keeping your affectations straight these days between the hard core Hobbesian and champion of the toothless. Maybe you do too.


And I truly am sorry the labels you had create for me didn't fit. God forbid I not live up to your preconceived notion of who I am and what I should do.

People have this funny idea that because I don't like them I don't like anyone.

I don't think humanity is filled with assholes, just you.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Abagadro on December 29, 2004, 09:38:25 PM
Hmmm, considering that nothing I said inferred you 'hated humanity', I  declare that post:

 Content Free! [/size]

I probably ascribed something to you that is far more complex than reality. I now realize that your general framework, at least the one you put on airs for, is acutully simple moral bankruptcy and intellectual laziness. For misinterpreting you, I apologize.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Boogaleeboo on December 29, 2004, 09:57:34 PM
Unless you were talking about Calvin and fucking Hobbes, you implied a certain amount of callousness to the general state of humanity when you used the term "Hobbesian". And I didn't say you implied I "hated humanity", I said you implied I thought it was filled with assholes. I don't hate you. I don't think of you that much at all. I just said you're an asshole. Because that's pretty much what people mean when they call someone Hobbesian. It's just a way to pretty it up. The so called "Hobbesian Theory" is a nation of assholes that only stop fucking each other over long enough to listen to one big, central asshole.

Excuse me for just cutting out the middle man and getting straight to insulting you. In the future I will make sure to color my personal opinion in meaningless political or philosophical rhetoric to make it more acceptable.....

.....nah, I'll probably just stick to saying you are a dick.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Abagadro on December 29, 2004, 10:05:48 PM
See, was that so hard?  You didn't even have to couch it in completely disengenuous sympathy for the poor folk catching fish with their hands about whom you don't really give a rat's ass.  I knew you could get there.  Now you can just have a canned post that says "well you're a dick" and we can avoid these long circuitous chats.  It is my heart's desire to get to the real you.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Boogaleeboo on December 29, 2004, 10:13:55 PM
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completely disengenuous sympathy


There's the problem. And the reason I talked. I don't think it's something they need sympathy for. It's a man catching fish. What the fuck is your massive problem with it? Did a fisherman rape you as a child?

You've had this long, rambling series of posts where you defend yourself for being a dick. Or did you assume you had a noble position of strength with your goober joke against some guy for fishing?


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Abagadro on December 29, 2004, 10:18:22 PM
I don't recall defending myself for being a dick. I was a dick (to whom I'm still not sure, but I'm sure someone out in the hills who got their squirrel powered ISP up and running is truly devastated).

I was taking umbrage at your false umbrage.  As all of your posts are simply couched ways of saying "well your a dick" or "well aren't you a dick" or "well you are just a dick,"   I'd really just wish you'd come out and say it instead of boring us with the artiface.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Boogaleeboo on December 29, 2004, 10:32:00 PM
I'm not exactly posting this from the Department of Linguistics at Stanford chief, I can't remember I time I didn't just say "You're a dick, fuck you, die" in fairly direct language.

To sum up. I called you a dick, you said you were being a dick....and you are still posting why? Because you don't like being called a dick? You are tired of me calling people dicks? You just like to argue?

Calling people a dick is what I do. It's the thing that gets me going, when I see people with absolutely no positive life features feeling the need to take the piss out of someone else I just have to call them on it. I've never defended or excused in any way my behavior. Act like a douchebag, to whomever it may be, and I'll probably call you on it if bored.

Now your thing is.....what exactly?

Because I haven't exactly noticed a point in the last 5.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Abagadro on December 29, 2004, 10:38:39 PM
Forgive the youknowwhating:

Quote from: Boogaleeboo
I can't remember I time I didn't just say "You're a dick, fuck you, die" in fairly direct language.


Took you around 6 posts and piling through the typical affectations of bullshit that are becoming quite tiring. Just trying to cut to the chase.


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Calling people a dick is what I do.


Your parents must be so proud.

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if bored.


Pretty much why I'm in this thread. Just good ol' fashioned fun.  Having a 3 month old leaves you with lots of time in the twilight hours with not much to do.  Those yokels aren't the only ones who know how to fish.

/aaaaaaand scene.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Boogaleeboo on December 29, 2004, 10:45:35 PM
Generally they manage to pay attention to their kids rather than stroking themselves on a message board though, so they have you there.

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Took you around 6 posts


The first thing I said is that all of you bitching were overfed cows making fun of people with an actual life skill. I'm sorry, that was indirect?

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Your parents must be so proud.


Calling people a dick when they act like one is sorta what they do, if behind their back and without profanity in the case of my mother. Yes. You went to law school and are reduced to having this conversation with me to pass the time, I'm not exactly guessing this is going on the Christmas card for your kin.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: plangent on December 29, 2004, 11:30:05 PM
Well, at least it's better than Geld and DV.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Abagadro on December 29, 2004, 11:36:05 PM
So your point seems to be that I am debasing myself by having these conversations with you. Finally, we agree on something.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Boogaleeboo on December 29, 2004, 11:44:34 PM
How exactly isn't that an insult against you?

Sure, I'm an idiot. You are the idiot still talking to me.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Abagadro on December 29, 2004, 11:46:36 PM
It's more of a self-failing of mine than an insult. Just can't help wallowing every once in a while. Sort of like going to a monster truck rally (which I also enjoy from time to time).

At least we all know where we stand.

EDIT: Ah well, was fun. See y'll Monday.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: schild on December 30, 2004, 06:23:06 PM
Just because I don't have net access for a week doesn't mean anyone can fall off their common sense rocker. Ab, have fun on your trip. Boog, stop baiting people.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Boogaleeboo on December 31, 2004, 05:26:33 AM
As odd as it may be to contemplate, occasional I have thoughts and feelings that don't relate to baiting people into an argument. This was one of them.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: geldonyetich on December 31, 2004, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: plangent
Well, at least it's better than Geld and DV.

Maybe because it's relatively new, but were this as regular of an occurance.

Here I thought Boog and Abagadro were really more prone t chosing a side in an existing argument, thereby having a numerical advantage.   That they're going at this solo - well, I'm proud of them.   This thread gets the Geldonyetich plaque of general disapproval.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Boogaleeboo on December 31, 2004, 12:12:15 PM
Hey, it's been about 2 minutes. Care to share another off-putting and overly personal detail about you fucking up your personal life again?

See schild, that's baiting.

What I did before was stating a personal opinion and someone not being able to drop it.

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Here I thought Boog and Abagadro were really more prone t chosing a side in an existing argument, thereby having a numerical advantage.


.....and like pretty much every single other opinion you've had in your life not related to video games, based on nothing but the fantasyland in your head.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: geldonyetich on December 31, 2004, 12:32:30 PM
Your natural trolling tendency transcends levels even you yourself may be aware of, Boog.  
Quote from: Boog
based on nothing but the fantasyland in your head.

I suppose I could say something here to refute your belief that I'm living in a land of visionary ideals, instead one of easy conservatism...

...but it's much more interesting for me to say that we all have to suffice for the shadows on the cave wall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato%27s_allegory_of_the_cave) rather than what reality really is.   The fantasyland in my head is likely no more fantastic than the one you've constructed.

If this makes me look like a crazy fuck before the closed minded (ironically the ones who are most likely to fall prey to fantasy over reality) well, such is life's burdens.

I've never particularly cared for popularity, it seems.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Boogaleeboo on December 31, 2004, 01:40:08 PM
1. It's not trolling if you aren't aware of it. "Trolling" is a fishing term. It's when you trail a baited line looking for fish to bite. You see why they apply it assholes on message boards?

And 2.

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I suppose I could say something here to refute your belief that I'm living in a land of visionary ideals, instead one of easy conservatism...


See, the point of contention in this case is that I say "Fantasyland" and you then extrapulate on that one word and go into entire realms of detail I never mentioned anywhere ever. Because you have this entire system of word associations in your head that have no relation to what everyone else is dealing with.

And not caring for popularity is only a statement of any worth when you actual have a chance to be popular.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Calantus on December 31, 2004, 05:01:11 PM
Can I interrupt the Boog show long enough to ask what the fuck is wrong with a fishing pole? Last I heard there were a variety of ways to get food other than the supermarket and having fish eat your digits.

EDIT: The above (minus the Boog show comment) is not directed at Boog, he just supplied the supermarket reference.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: geldonyetich on December 31, 2004, 05:10:37 PM
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Because you have this entire system of word associations in your head that have no relation to what everyone else is dealing with.

Well, that would explain why some of you are excellent at missing my point.    Yet, when it comes to misinterpretation, fault does not always belong on the shoulders of the writer.

Your earlier statement expressed disapproval over my interpretation of reality, though perhaps you may not have been aware exactly what you were saying at the time.   Don't plead ignorance just because you don't like how that turned out.

Knowing you, you will now again completely forget what you are saying and attempt to make an entirely different point.   If you're caught at it, you will accuse the finder of misinterpretation.   It's become your style of message-board martial artistry.   Float like an ungrounded idea, sting like kick to the groin during a chess match.
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And not caring for popularity is only a statement of any worth when you actual have a chance to be popular.

An interesting statement that breaks down a bit under further scrutiny.

Regardless, I've indicated I don't particularly care one way or the other.   I have no ambitions to be top monkey, whether or not I had a chance in the first place.


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Boogaleeboo on January 01, 2005, 12:55:10 AM
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Can I interrupt the Boog show long enough to ask what the fuck is wrong with a fishing pole?


Excuse me for what seems like a pun, which I acknowledge as the lowest form of humor, but it's less hands on. Some people just don't like sitting for long periods of time for the chance to pull back a stick and turn a wheel. Which isn't to say that fishing is easy, but it's not quite the same as getting in a steam and picking the things up with your bare hands. Or spear fishing, something else people still do. All of which are better than the real hicks with throw TNT into a lake and kill a three hundred fish in 2 seconds while seriously fucking up the local ecosystem.

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Well, that would explain why some of you are excellent at missing my point. Yet, when it comes to misinterpretation, fault does not always belong on the shoulders of the writer....

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Knowing you, you will now again completely forget what you are saying and attempt to make an entirely different point. If you're caught at it, you will accuse the finder of misinterpretation. It's become your style of message-board martial artistry. Float like an ungrounded idea, sting like kick to the groin during a chess match.


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See, the point of contention in this case is that I say "Fantasyland" and you then extrapulate on that one word and go into entire realms of detail I never mentioned anywhere ever.


Not only aren't I going on to some new point, you've done nothing with that last bit but reinforce my earlier statement.

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An interesting statement that breaks down a bit under further scrutiny.


No, not really. I can say I never really cared about being Miss Alabama, and as I'm not a woman nor a resident of the 'Bama all the statement will do is ensure I get odd looks from those around me. This doesn't mean it's untrue, I really have never cared about being Miss Alabama, it just means the statement isn't particularly meaningful.

You've never had the chance to be popular, what does it really matter that you don't care about being popular?


Title: What the fuck is wrong with people?
Post by: Hanzii on January 01, 2005, 02:13:21 AM
Let's see, this thread started with the truly fucked up crime of killing somebody and stealing their unborn child, then somewhere along the line Shoceye expected us to show the same kind of revulsion towards hicks who like to catch giant mutant fishies in a somewhat weird way...
I'm sorry, but I fail to see what the two are doing in the same thread.

Ordinary fishing is one of the most godawful boring hobbies known to man. It only beats stamp collecting because it at least let you get some fresh air. These guys at least adds some excitement to the mix, and their choice of hobby isn't more fucked up than people jumping off cliffs or planes in perfect working condition.
The only kind of fishing I'd seriously consider would nbe spearfishing, which can also be somewhat risky, if you do it in tropical waters (sharks are attracted to the blood).