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Title: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: Velorath on May 20, 2009, 12:51:20 PM
Trailer now up (http://sherlock-holmes-movie.warnerbros.com/).  The trailer should also be showing on all prints of Terminator.  So far it seems like the only reason to see this is to watch Robert Downey Jr. be Robert Downey Jr..


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: Samwise on May 20, 2009, 02:46:50 PM
wat


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: schild on May 20, 2009, 02:47:47 PM
It looks like League of Extraordinary Hellboy Detectives. But I still want to see it.


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: NowhereMan on May 20, 2009, 02:54:55 PM
I missed the book where Holmes went from being a semi-autistic up-himself genius detective and became a suave, Kun Fuing vampire killer. All it really needs is Moriarty in steam punk Robo-exoskeleton to be truly :drill:


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: Soln on May 20, 2009, 04:16:16 PM
I'd have to be drunk to sit through this.  Badly.


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: ashrik on May 20, 2009, 05:50:42 PM
I just saw Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, so I think I'll be looking forward to this


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: rk47 on May 21, 2009, 04:52:46 AM
marvel presents

Ye Ultimate Sherlock Holmes

 :drill:


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: HaemishM on May 21, 2009, 09:03:27 AM
Sherlock Holmes! BY MICHAEL BAY


BABABASPLOOOOMMMM!!!!!!!

Ok, so it's not that bad. I actually think I'll enjoy this. But it'll be cheesy as hell.


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: DraconianOne on May 21, 2009, 12:34:39 PM
Michael Bay?

Worse than that - it's Guy Ritchie.


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: Hindenburg on May 21, 2009, 12:41:30 PM
Worse than that - it's Guy Ritchie.

wut


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: Ingmar on May 21, 2009, 02:44:11 PM
This is an utter goddamn fucking travesty.


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: NowhereMan on May 22, 2009, 02:55:48 AM
I could have lived with this if they'd really gone for it. Like I said Moriarty in steampunk exo-skeleton and Holmes being the fucking batman I'd have gone to see purely for ridiculousness. This looks like they just made Holmes a sexy man who knows Karate and threw in a few saucy jokes. What's the fucking point of making a Sherlock Holmes movie if you don't want to make a Sherlock Holmes movie or even really make fun of Sherlock Holmes?


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: Velorath on May 22, 2009, 03:03:16 AM
This looks like they just made Holmes a sexy man who knows Karate and threw in a few saucy jokes.

Doesn't look like they made Holmes all that sexy.  Also, in the books he apparently did have some talent as a boxer and was familiar with at least one kind of martial art.


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: gryeyes on May 22, 2009, 04:40:32 AM
C. Auguste Dupin > Sherlock Holmes

Been a long time since i have read any Holmes i cant recall him kicking any ass.

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What's the fucking point of making a Sherlock Holmes movie if you don't want to make a Sherlock Holmes movie or even really make fun of Sherlock Holmes?

Name recognition, its not like a substantial amount of people who will go see the movie have read any of the books.


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: Merusk on May 22, 2009, 05:37:11 AM
They're rebooting the franchise. Just go with it.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: Sir T on May 22, 2009, 05:40:55 AM
C. Auguste Dupin > Sherlock Holmes

Been a long time since i have read any Holmes i cant recall him kicking any ass.

In one story this guys came in rages at Holmes and to rienforce the point, picked up a poker and bent it. Holmes picked up the poker and simply straightened it.

But he wasn't really into physical confrontation as a rule, but he wasn't shy of bringing on a revolver id need be.

This is going to be a travesty of literary proportions.


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: Hindenburg on May 22, 2009, 06:44:24 AM
What's sad is that it'll probably be good.


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: stu on May 22, 2009, 06:52:00 AM
Didn't the studio force re-shoots because execs felt it was awful?


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: schild on May 22, 2009, 11:41:18 AM
Didn't the studio force re-shoots because execs felt it was awful?
I'm not sure how that's relevant. You trust what studios think qualifies as awful or awesome?


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: stu on May 22, 2009, 01:04:25 PM
I have a feeling they have no idea what this project really is. Once Downey and Law were on board, I doubt they took the time to consider how erratic Ritchie is. Picture a room full of execs watching the dailies and wondering what the heck is going on in front of them, then freaking out when the lights are undimmed.

I read some more about the reshoots. Many reports are conflicting. Whatever the case, Rachel McAdams is rockin' hot.


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: Venkman on May 22, 2009, 01:38:55 PM
What's sad is that it'll probably be good.

Be good or do good?

Trailer was up during Terminator. I didn't hate it. And yea, they're rebooting the franchise. Just how many people know anything about Holmes beyond the name? And then how many of those people know anything beyond Young Sherlock Holmes  :awesome_for_real:

Source material doesn't survive transition to the 21st century :-)


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: Paelos on May 22, 2009, 01:40:33 PM
This could rival Van Helsing in terms of pure, anadulterated awful.


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: Hindenburg on May 22, 2009, 02:17:21 PM
Be good or do good?

Be good. I fully trust Ritchie. His worst job was that madonna flick, and even his second worst job, Revolver, is way above average.


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: Rendakor on May 23, 2009, 01:36:59 AM
Saw the trailer, looked good in a "I've never read any of Doyle's books" sense.

I don't get the Ritchie hate. Lock Stock and Snatch were both  :drill:.


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: DraconianOne on May 23, 2009, 03:58:19 AM
Lock, Stock was great. Snatch was entertaining but not as fantastic as everyone seems to think it is. Revolver was a piece of predictable, self-important, hackneyed old crap. Less said about Swept Away, the better. By all accounts, Rocknrolla is not bad but not outstanding but I haven't seen it so can't comment.

Basically, Ritchie has so far proved himself to only know a one note song and seems incapable of diversity. Compare Matthew Vaughn who was his producer on Lock, Stock and Snatch (the two good films in his repertoire) and then went on to direct Layer Cake and the wildly different but no less good Stardust. I'd like for Sherlock Holmes to be good and could care less for how much it sticks to the source material - no-one gave two shits when Neil Gaiman wrote the short story "A Study In Emerald" which mixed up Holmes with the Cthulhu mythos.  I just don't think it's actually going to be very good and nothing in the trailer (which reminded me a lot of Hudson Hawk for some reason) gave me reason to think otherwise.


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: Hindenburg on May 23, 2009, 04:38:10 AM
Snatch was entertaining but not as fantastic as everyone seems to think it is.

Actually, it is every bit as fantastic as everyone seems to think, oddly enough. And yes, I had seen LS2SB before seeing snatch.


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: NowhereMan on May 23, 2009, 05:09:01 AM
In fairness Gaiman mixed up the Cthulu mythos and Holmes but didn't actually change any of the characters, in the sense that Holmes from Study in Emerald seems like the sort of thing the character might do in that situation. Part of a good franchise reboot shouldn't be radically altering the characters to fit in with some random archetype you think will sell i.e. making Kirk into a hard ass by the book leader with a somewhat impetuous Spock he needs to keep reeling in would have made the new Trek not Trek. Like others have said, this is probably going to be a forgettable semi-action flick with lots of Ritchie stuff. The only reason it makes me unhappy is because I think Holmes could be used to make much better movies. People love thrillers, why can't a good Holme film be a period mystery thriller? (Probably because studio execs anyone tried to pitch that to would go into coniptions at the genre).


Title: Re: Sherlock Holmes
Post by: gryeyes on May 24, 2009, 04:24:09 PM
And yea, they're rebooting the franchise. Just how many people know anything about Holmes beyond the name? And then how many of those people know anything beyond Young Sherlock Holmes  :awesome_for_real:

Source material doesn't survive transition to the 21st century :-)

It broke my heart a sequel to young Sherlock Holmes was never made.  :heartbreak: Grisom from CSI is the modern day Holmes. But Holmes already being a plagiarized character makes me indifferent to its rape.