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Title: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Prospero on May 15, 2009, 01:19:36 PM MOTHER FUCKING SPY UPDATE (http://www.teamfortress.com/spyupdate/)
No lie. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Sky on May 15, 2009, 01:24:36 PM That may be the coolest game update thing I've ever seen.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Prospero on May 15, 2009, 01:29:22 PM Seriously. The whole page is :drill:
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Samwise on May 15, 2009, 01:39:56 PM I've been hoping for a cloak that would let you stay still indefinitely for a while. This is excellent.
I was also hoping they'd bring back the old Feign Death in some form. Having it drop a decoy corpse while you cloak is more :drill: than I'd dared to dream. Between all the spies and snipers I think it's going to be a great time to rack up some pyro and scout points. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: schild on May 15, 2009, 01:40:46 PM holy shit
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Ookii on May 15, 2009, 03:01:16 PM Goddamn spys! This will just make things worse. :oh_i_see:
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Prospero on May 15, 2009, 03:38:44 PM SO I assume the pocket watch is a pistol replacement, which makes the shield make much more sense; some spies won't have the revolver to just shoot you with. I'm curious to see how that all plays out.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Teleku on May 15, 2009, 03:42:52 PM "All Historians agree that George Washington's greatest regret was not being PERMANENTLY INVISIBLE."
Christ that entire page is win. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Samwise on May 15, 2009, 04:18:34 PM SO I assume the pocket watch is a pistol replacement We already have some evidence of another pistol replacement (that ivory-handled gun in yesterday's sniper picture). I'd figure the pocket watch either goes in the "watch" slot like its name would suggest (meaning that there are two different watch replacements in one update, egad) or goes in the sapper slot for a spy whose goal is assassination rather than sabotage. (edit) As a watch replacement, I'd hazard a guess that as a balance to the awesome decoy ability it can't be activated manually, making it the ideal choice for a spy who wants to depend heavily on his disguise to get around but still have a chance to make it past spy checks alive. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Yegolev on May 15, 2009, 04:46:36 PM So, pyro then? :oh_i_see:
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Samwise on May 15, 2009, 04:48:45 PM I'm going to be playing a SHITLOAD of pyro and maybe scout for a week or so after this update comes out. It's going to be glorious.
Also, it just occurred to me that watch unlocks won't give us new taunt animations. :sad: (edit) Holy shit, looking at the picture I just realized that the pocket watch thing is a perfect counter to the Razorback. That's brilliant. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Strazos on May 15, 2009, 07:02:39 PM I understand the pyro, but why the desire to play scout so much? I mean, more than normal.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Hindenburg on May 15, 2009, 07:03:57 PM Strong class against snipers and spys.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Strazos on May 15, 2009, 07:06:06 PM How are they any stronger against spies? Am I forgetting something?
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Prospero on May 15, 2009, 07:11:50 PM They're hard to backstab since tend to be in constant motion, and they are hard to hit with the pistol because they are coke fiends.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Samwise on May 15, 2009, 07:14:03 PM It's impossible to run up behind someone and backstab them if they run faster than you do.
Also, the FAN is a great spy checker. :why_so_serious: Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Strazos on May 15, 2009, 07:16:16 PM Oh, roger. Thought I may have been forgetting some sort of special ability the scout had to detect spies or something.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Kageru on May 16, 2009, 03:11:58 AM So a spy can stealth a distance, stay stealthed and regain energy, then move some more. I wasn't aware spy's needed to be more irritating, a really good one can already turn a battle almost single-handedly. Great page though, no argument there. And if this means the bow and arrow idea was just a joke even better. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Malakili on May 16, 2009, 06:05:41 AM Well played Valve, well played.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Samwise on May 16, 2009, 08:26:57 AM So a spy can stealth a distance, stay stealthed and regain energy, then move some more. That's not 100% clear. When they put out the mini-spy update they indicated that getting to a dispenser while cloaked would "regenerate" your cloak, but really it only regenerates your cloak as fast as it's being used, so the power level stays constant rather than going up or down. I'm guessing that holding still while cloaked with this new watch will have the same effect; your cloak won't wear off, but it won't charge back up either. We'll have to see. Quote Great page though, no argument there. And if this means the bow and arrow idea was just a joke even better. No, I think the sniper stuff was for real. Valve said earlier that they didn't want to put out a sniper update and have everyone running around as snipers, so their plan is to combine the sniper and spy updates together. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Soln on May 16, 2009, 08:52:21 AM nerf spiez
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Triforcer on May 16, 2009, 07:18:26 PM That's not 100% clear. When they put out the mini-spy update they indicated that getting to a dispenser while cloaked would "regenerate" your cloak, but really it only regenerates your cloak as fast as it's being used, so the power level stays constant rather than going up or down. I'm guessing that holding still while cloaked with this new watch will have the same effect; your cloak won't wear off, but it won't charge back up either. We'll have to see. That would be fantastically underpowered. What I think is far more likely is that standing still while stealthed gives you the normal, 30 seconds-until-full replenishment (won't be faster, because that would make the watch a clear upgrade). Even if I'm right, the tradeoffs are still interesting. I can still think of many scenarios where ammo is plentiful and the original watch would better serve. The new one seems to be aimed at those people who like to stealth to the attacking class's spawn and gank people as they come out the door (or, in a slightly more useful maneuver, to get to the spawn to take out the teleporters). I can see myself using both. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Kageru on May 16, 2009, 07:51:10 PM It will make playing as an engineer even more boring than it is now. If a spy can find a nice corner and "lurk" indefinitely every time you move, especially out of site of your gun, you risk insta-death from every corner. And as for chasing them down? Going to be playing pyro / scout for a couple of weeks when this goes live though. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: tmp on May 16, 2009, 09:15:31 PM Meet the Spy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTj6tauY1JU&fmt=18)
No lie. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Soln on May 16, 2009, 09:27:32 PM edit: meh
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Kail on May 16, 2009, 09:33:39 PM Meet the Spy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTj6tauY1JU&fmt=18) No lie. Fucking win. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Hindenburg on May 16, 2009, 09:34:51 PM Meet the Spy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTj6tauY1JU&fmt=18) No lie. Epic video is epic. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Samwise on May 16, 2009, 11:09:57 PM Meet the Spy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTj6tauY1JU&fmt=18) No lie. Holy shit. Why is this not showing up on Steam? Early leak? Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Prospero on May 16, 2009, 11:13:31 PM :drill:
Apparently it keeps appearing and disappearing from the Valve YouTube site. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Triforcer on May 16, 2009, 11:24:10 PM :drill:
Pure epic fucking epic win. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: eldaec on May 17, 2009, 04:45:07 AM The frightening thing is that a bow and arrow and the shield thing didn't seem out of place amongst the other post launch changes.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Samwise on May 17, 2009, 08:37:21 AM I'm 90% certain the sniper update stuff is still on. Valve said a couple times before this that they wanted to try to combine class updates to prevent the "everyone's one class" problem.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: JWIV on May 17, 2009, 08:57:58 AM My god awesome.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: HaemishM on May 17, 2009, 09:26:35 AM :drill: Pure epic fucking epic win. Yeah, that. The pictures of the Scout's mother thing was just awesome slathered awesomesauce. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: tmp on May 17, 2009, 09:56:41 AM ":ye_gods: ... :uhrr: ... :heartbreak:"
"Indeed." Did it for me. So much said with so little. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Falwell on May 17, 2009, 11:59:13 AM I'm 90% certain the sniper update stuff is still on. Valve said a couple times before this that they wanted to try to combine class updates to prevent the "everyone's one class" problem. True, I believe it was Shacknews who spoke to Gabe and he confirmed it is a 2 in 1 update.. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Hoax on May 17, 2009, 12:30:29 PM I thought the Doctor fight was what really made that video great. Still looking forward to Pyro most of all.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Fabricated on May 17, 2009, 01:22:35 PM gonna be burnin a lot of shitty spies next update
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Dion on May 17, 2009, 01:45:26 PM I thought the Doctor fight was what really made that video great. Still looking forward to Pyro most of all. The Sniper fight was pretty cool, especially the animation. I'll probably keep to CoD4 until everything calms down and then maybe work on some achievements.Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Samwise on May 17, 2009, 02:06:28 PM If I may read way too much into the video for a second: how cool would it be if you got a Judo Chop move as an alternative to the switchblade? :drill:
Also, a revolver that either can do headshots like the sniper or auto-crits as you're breaking disguise with it. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Kail on May 18, 2009, 06:14:15 PM Heh, looks like that video actually wasn't supposed to go out until today... (http://www.teamfortress.com/spyupdate/english.htm) Oops...
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Kageru on May 18, 2009, 06:22:47 PM They are so damn classy, check the corporate achievement at the bottom of the page :) Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: tmp on May 18, 2009, 06:31:27 PM Heh, looks like that video actually wasn't supposed to go out until today... (http://www.teamfortress.com/spyupdate/english.htm) Oops... And apparently they took time to redo the warning board part of it, it now includes "Leaked Video" as one of the signs :awesome_for_real:Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Samwise on May 19, 2009, 01:42:15 PM New Spy pistol: The Ambassador (http://www.teamfortress.com/spyupdate/)
Sounds like it's a more powerful/accurate but slower firing version of the revolver. The TF2.com blog posts about the leak have been :awesome_for_real:. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: schild on May 19, 2009, 01:43:30 PM Hey, the scout's mom is on the gun.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: schild on May 19, 2009, 01:44:04 PM oh god damnit
(likeness of your enemy’s mother (please send photo) engraved on the barrel) i said that before I read it :( :( :( :( :( Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Samwise on May 19, 2009, 01:45:24 PM It's in every way a gorgeous gun. The scout's mom is the icing on the cake.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: HaemishM on May 19, 2009, 02:04:59 PM Fucking Win.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Hoax on May 19, 2009, 08:12:08 PM I feel really bad for engies, this is going to make things much harder on them. I wonder if they shouldn't have done the engie update with the spy, who really cares if the snipers of the world have less fun? Most of them aren't good enough to not be a drag on the team anyways.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Sjofn on May 19, 2009, 11:08:40 PM My sister loves playing engineers, and she's apparently a really nasty one (she seems to kill a LOT of people with her wrench). She's already starting with the I'LL MAKE THEM ALL PAAAAAAY. :why_so_serious:
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Triforcer on May 20, 2009, 02:53:08 AM My mind is whirling with the possibilities of the cloak and dagger. You can literally stand outside any spawn point (or in a heavily trafficked area, such as the 2fort pipe or near the first chokepoint on goldrush) indefinitely and invisible. Then, anytime someone comes at you, you just sidestep, decloak, gank, recloak, and repeat. You can stand in the best spots on the map and never worry about anything.
Arguably that kind of behavior by a spy is not as helpful to the team as other things, but... :drill: Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Trippy on May 20, 2009, 03:05:18 AM You can stand in the best spots on the map and never worry about anything. Not if I'm playing a Pyro -- I rapidly tap the fire button as I move around in potential Spy areas, which includes the interiors of 2fort.Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Megrim on May 20, 2009, 06:07:15 AM Or there are Demomen playing. I hate them more than any Pyro. God-damned nade spam.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Lantyssa on May 20, 2009, 08:39:08 AM My sister loves playing engineers, and she's apparently a really nasty one (she seems to kill a LOT of people with her wrench). She's already starting with the I'LL MAKE THEM ALL PAAAAAAY. :why_so_serious: Engineer was my favorite, too. On the bright side, both the Engineer and Demoman may have the advantage of being the last classes to get an upgrade so maybe they'll get something really nice. Not that I play anymore to care much.Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Ingmar on May 20, 2009, 10:42:03 AM I like the demo best of all, I haven't found anything as satisfying as blowing up an entire bomb escort squad when they come out of the tunnel into a field of sticky bombs. :heart:
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: NiX on May 20, 2009, 11:47:45 AM Quote Now to shoe Robin's horse. Robin enjoy riding through office some times to chase Stavros. Valve is awesome. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: ahoythematey on May 20, 2009, 02:07:17 PM I like the demo best of all, I haven't found anything as satisfying as blowing up an entire bomb escort squad when they come out of the tunnel into a field of sticky bombs. :heart: Demo's are bullshit. I hope you guys never get your upgrade! Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Teleku on May 20, 2009, 02:42:33 PM Still waiting for the soldier update :awesome_for_real:
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Soln on May 20, 2009, 04:13:30 PM and the Engie update :crying_panda:
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: schild on May 21, 2009, 07:48:55 PM Sniper Domination clips:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vptexno3Hc You know what you and Jane Austin have in common? You're both dead women. Edit: Spy Domination clips: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7iWoHRoY9s These are much better than the sniper. How surprised. @Black Scottish Cyclops: I'm going to finish what your liver started. @Scout: Well, off to visit your mother! @Soldier: Oh, soldier, who will they find to replace you? ANYONE! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: pxib on May 21, 2009, 10:16:20 PM @Spy: I'LL SEE YOU IN HELL... you handsome rogue!
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Sjofn on May 22, 2009, 12:08:06 AM Half of what makes the spy's funnier to me is his outrageous accent.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Malakili on May 22, 2009, 09:45:49 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX1H1ykm2oU
Ambassador in action Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: K9 on May 22, 2009, 09:56:59 AM Sheesh
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Ingmar on May 22, 2009, 10:15:25 AM EVERYONE was playing a sniper last night. I didn't see an appreciable rise in the number of spies though.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Samwise on May 22, 2009, 10:17:49 AM You didn't SEE a rise in the number of spies...
I found quite a few with my flamethrower. :drill: Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Ingmar on May 22, 2009, 10:18:49 AM I must have just been on the wrong servers - I was pyro-ing in anticipation of lots of spyfrying but it was just snipers and scouts all night.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: NiX on May 22, 2009, 10:19:59 AM I love how people don't read the patch notes and a lot of them are playing the class thinking that will unlock the weapons.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: schild on May 22, 2009, 10:20:36 AM I uhhhh.
I really don't see that Ambassador not getting nerfed in the next patch. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Ingmar on May 22, 2009, 10:21:59 AM I love how people don't read the patch notes and a lot of them are playing the class thinking that will unlock the weapons. To be fair they might just want achievements. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Delmania on May 22, 2009, 10:23:49 AM Well, that update page and video got me interested. Even more so since the game is 50% off this weekend on Steam
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: eldaec on May 22, 2009, 01:08:05 PM I can't decide which is more retarded, the way the ambassador plays, or the way the bow and arrow looks.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Teleku on May 22, 2009, 01:17:09 PM Speaking of which, how is the bow and arrow? Is it actually worthwhile? Or any of the other sniper upgrades for that matter.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Jobu on May 22, 2009, 03:10:16 PM Speaking of which, how is the bow and arrow? Is it actually worthwhile? Or any of the other sniper upgrades for that matter. I haven't received it yet, but it's fucking awesome to see someone dead and pinned to the wall as you run by. Comedy value alone is worth it, IMO. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Strazos on May 22, 2009, 04:13:25 PM I played for more than an hour today, with zero unlocks. :oh_i_see:
Is there any zoom on the bow at all? Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Malakili on May 22, 2009, 04:22:35 PM Apparently something is wrong with the way items are being found, and the pace is supposed to be greater.
Anyway, heres more info: Quote Why did we build a new system? * With our first four class updates we were tying the new weapons for each class to a set of achievements. Our intention was to make a set of achievements that eventually all players would get, and would be fun to get along the way. In some cases we did a good job at this (Scout), and in some cases we did a bad one (Medic). Across all of the class packs we were disappointed in the number of people that got to play with the new weapons, and feedback from the community was generally not favorable with this approach. What did we do? * For the last number of months we've been working on using the Steam Cloud to store a player's inventory. With that finally in place, we were able to deploy a new system focused on the giving of items to players. That new system watches the amount of time that players are playing TF2, and gives them a chance to find items at regular intervals. They aren't guaranteed to get the item at those points, but they have a pretty good chance. We based the system on granting items on the amount of time played because we don't want players to have to do weird things like join achievement grinding servers to get new content. Basing it off time also has the benefit of ensuring that if you play a lot of TF2, you're going to get more items than players who don't. How long do I have to play to get an item? * When we were tuning this system we first looked at the average amount of time that players spend playing TF2 daily. From there, we set the goal of most players having around 20 items in their inventory after a couple of weeks of play. If you're someone who plays a lot of TF2, you're going to get items a lot faster than that. In the first few hours after the release yesterday, we had some issues that prevented the system from working properly, so that timeframe was not indicative of the system as it's designed. Is this the way we'll find items from now on? * Like everything else we build, we'll be iterating on this system for a while, and have a lot of features planned. Some of the next things we have planned are: - Item trading. This is why you're finding duplicates. - Giving players a method to influence the system so they can work directly toward getting specific items. - Adding more rare items like the hats. We're going to be working on and rolling these out while we're also working on the next class pack, with the goal being to get it all released before then. Source: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2535 Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: schild on May 22, 2009, 04:25:53 PM This all pretty much guarantees that Valve is eventually going to make an MMOG. This is the sort of design methodology that's testing the grounds for such a thing as it's certainly not going to push a ton more TF2 boxes (the $9.99 price would have done that without any updates ever).
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Fordel on May 22, 2009, 04:39:54 PM I have Jarate.
Tremble in fear. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Kail on May 22, 2009, 04:45:41 PM Quote That new system watches the amount of time that players are playing TF2, and gives them a chance to find items at regular intervals. (snip) Basing it off time also has the benefit of ensuring that if you play a lot of TF2, you're going to get more items than players who don't. That's... good? I guess? Quote - Item trading. This is why you're finding duplicates. TF2 has an economy now...?! Quote - Adding more rare items like the hats. Oh, hell. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: rattran on May 22, 2009, 09:44:48 PM I played for a couple hours, and got duplicates of several pyro and medic items I already had. No new stuff. Bow and Arrow seemed pretty effective at medium range, spies were slightly more annoying, and I still love setting people on fire.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Triforcer on May 23, 2009, 12:13:17 AM I have played 5 or 6 hours since the update and not one unlock, not even a repeat. I'm starting to wonder if valve hates asian IPS, since in all the time I've played I've seen THREE messages where someone on my server got an item.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: eldaec on May 23, 2009, 08:11:50 AM Create server -> Random Map -> Player limit = 1 -> time limit = 99999 -> Play EvE -> Receive unlocks
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Prospero on May 23, 2009, 10:47:01 AM I picked up the Cloak & Dagger last night. It makes you re-think maps a lot; you need to find places that give you good visibility into enemy movement, but are enough out of the way a random pyro won't set you on fire. I found myself missing the normal cloak a number of times, but it definitely seems like a worthwhile sidegrade.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Strazos on May 23, 2009, 01:54:53 PM The Dead Ringer is driving me nuts. It even spits out false kill messages.
All the spies hanging about is driving me nuts, and I don't have my shield yet. The Huntsman is....amusing. I'm not sure how I feel about it yet. I'm more mobile, and I can still kill people, but..I dunno, sometimes I find myself missing the instant-hit of the rifle. And the zoom, but just because I am use to being zoomed. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: eldaec on May 23, 2009, 02:02:24 PM btw, it turns out you can still unlock new weapons the old way.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: NiX on May 23, 2009, 02:10:55 PM btw, it turns out you can still unlock new weapons the old way. Yeah, as stated above, it's only for those with milestone achievements. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: NiX on May 23, 2009, 02:19:31 PM Create server -> Random Map -> Player limit = 1 -> time limit = 99999 -> Play EvE -> Receive unlocks Either I'm unlucky or Valve is quick. Patch went out and I'm thinking it was to disable personal servers from connecting to Steam and awarding unlocks. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: eldaec on May 23, 2009, 03:37:39 PM One piece of good news, Snipers with the bow and arrow suck monkey balls. Yes, it makes you better at mid range, but not as good as almost every other class.
Seriously, if you must play Sniper, use the Rifle. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Strazos on May 23, 2009, 03:41:25 PM That's what I'm coming to, unfortunately.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Samwise on May 23, 2009, 05:10:22 PM btw, it turns out you can still unlock new weapons the old way. But not the new new weapons, correct? Just the ones from previous updates that have associated milestones? Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: eldaec on May 23, 2009, 06:22:32 PM I don't know tbh.
I do know I passed a pyro milestone today and unlocked a weapon. But your explanation would make sense. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: NiX on May 23, 2009, 06:37:19 PM But not the new new weapons, correct? Just the ones from previous updates that have associated milestones? Milestone items only still. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Samwise on May 24, 2009, 09:18:06 AM I'm hoping they go back and add milestones for the spy and sniper for those who don't dig the random drop thing.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: eldaec on May 24, 2009, 09:27:28 AM I hope not.
TF2 just isn't fun when half the team is playing the same class. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Pennilenko on May 24, 2009, 09:28:54 AM Im confused, can you find drops now randomly for any class based on play time, or do you have to log play time for the class with which you want stuff?
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Samwise on May 24, 2009, 09:30:19 AM Im confused, can you find drops now randomly for any class based on play time, or do you have to log play time for the class with which you want stuff? It's 100% random. You don't even have to be playing at all; people in spectator mode get drops too. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: schild on May 24, 2009, 09:35:02 AM They seriously screwed the pooch on this distribution thing, it should've been loot from killing randomly diablo style. /ugh
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Thrawn on May 24, 2009, 09:38:06 AM One piece of good news, Snipers with the bow and arrow suck monkey balls. Yes, it makes you better at mid range, but not as good as almost every other class. Seriously, if you must play Sniper, use the Rifle. I got the bow like RIGHT after the update and everyone keeps telling me it's the best thing ever but I quit using it after a few maps of trying it out. eldaec is pretty much spot on, the rifle is better. The bow is fun, and has some use in shorter range maps. But in most of those cases you're probably better just playing a different class. Bow snipers shooting at you long range are great because you can pretty much just watch them and dodge the arrows. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Strazos on May 24, 2009, 10:23:27 AM The Bow is nice for narrow hallways, and it's always fun to loft shots at people.
Still going with the rifle though. Now I just need my razorback. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Teleku on May 24, 2009, 08:04:13 PM I don't know guys, I've been watching snipers absolutely tear up maps using the bow and arrow. They can charge at you, pause for half a second when they see you, then one shot you, then keep charging. I watched a group of 3 actually charge the base on 2 fort and make it all the way to the intelligence doing this.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Prospero on May 24, 2009, 08:30:01 PM Yeah, I saw some crazy Huntsman action last night. It sucks at long range, but good archers seem to tear shit up in short to medium range.
Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: Kail on May 25, 2009, 12:45:27 AM They seriously screwed the pooch on this distribution thing, it should've been loot from killing randomly diablo style. I'll drink to that. Played ten hours this week, got one upgrade (Axetinguisher, which I already had). So I'm looking at something like what, two hundred hours played to unlock everything? Fuck, this is a stupid idea. Title: Re: GENTLEMEN. Post by: eldaec on May 25, 2009, 02:23:36 AM I don't know guys, I've been watching snipers absolutely tear up maps using the bow and arrow. They can charge at you, pause for half a second when they see you, then one shot you, then keep charging. I watched a group of 3 actually charge the base on 2 fort and make it all the way to the intelligence doing this. You know what else tears up like that at short range in coordinated groups? Soldiers, Demos, force-o-nature Scouts, and Pyros. Or anything with ubercharge support. And all those classes have a form of defence as well as a decent short range weapon. People are rating the huntsman because everyone is using it right now, so it is killing you more than most other weapons. OTOH How many snipers are you killing at the moment? I bet lots. |