|
Title: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Abagadro on March 25, 2009, 07:01:04 PM New full trailer is up. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/wherethewildthingsare/) Jonze seems like a good match for the material so he might be able to pull it off. Will be interesting.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Soln on March 25, 2009, 11:04:43 PM aye could be a classic. Hope so.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 26, 2009, 06:46:13 AM This could go one of two ways.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Ookii on March 26, 2009, 07:42:46 AM Looks AWESOME! :drill: :drill: :drillf: :drillf: :drill: :drillf: :drillf: :why_so_serious: :why_so_serious: :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real: :heart: :heart: :heart:
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Mattemeo on March 27, 2009, 09:44:09 AM I don't know if it's just because of an immensely clever use of an Arcade Fire song, but the feel of the trailer seems spot on, to me. I don't know anyone born in the last 20 years or more who hadn't read the book a thousand times as a child, and as an illustrator who also works in the realms of children's illustrations, it's one of my go-to inspirations. Really, really looking forward to the movie - I respect Jonze as a perfectionist and when it transpired he wasn't happy with how things were going early last year (rumours abounded of a total reshoot), I knew he was making the movie out of love rather than the easy kiddy-dollar.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: lamaros on March 27, 2009, 07:47:01 PM It'll be very hard to pull this off. Hope it's good, though the Trailier seems half cliche child/adventure in parts. Hard to know if that's just how they've tried to make it look, or if that's how it actually is, though.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Viin on March 27, 2009, 09:11:57 PM Looks AWESOME! :drill: :drill: :drillf: :drillf: :drill: :drillf: :drillf: :why_so_serious: :why_so_serious: :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real: :heart: :heart: :heart: Btw, love your new avatar Ookii - cracks me up. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: jason on October 13, 2009, 04:40:04 AM Saw a screening of this last night... it wasn't as good as I wanted it to be. Not a very good kids movie, they'll probably be bored except during the more active scenes. Its a movie about a kid with behavior/family problems who runs away and meets some monsters who may or may not teach him that things aren't so bad. Overall, I thought it was beautifully made but uninteresting.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: K9 on October 13, 2009, 07:20:41 AM I have seen this film receiving a lot of hype, but I am honestly clueless as to the source material. Is this story a particular US phenomenon?
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Nebu on October 13, 2009, 07:23:10 AM I have seen this film receiving a lot of hype, but I am honestly clueless as to the source material. Is this story a particular US phenomenon? Popular children's book many of us grew up with. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_the_Wild_Things_Are) Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Engels on October 13, 2009, 07:43:19 AM Saw a screening of this last night... it wasn't as good as I wanted it to be. Not a very good kids movie, they'll probably be bored except during the more active scenes. Its a movie about a kid with behavior/family problems who runs away and meets some monsters who may or may not teach him that things aren't so bad. Overall, I thought it was beautifully made but uninteresting. Its sometimes very hard to tell what will captivate kids. You know Jar Jar Binks? Wildly popular with 4-5 year olds. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Nebu on October 13, 2009, 07:48:51 AM Its sometimes very hard to tell what will captivate kids. You know Jar Jar Binks? Wildly popular with 4-5 year olds. I wonder how marketing approaches this. You want to attract parents for theater showings, but ultimately you have to captivate children to make boat loads of cash in the dvd market. I'm guessing that nostalgia will drive the popularity of this and was exactly what was intended. As for Jar Jar Binks, that character turned me off to Star Wars completely. I used to be a big fan of the initial trilogy, but can't even get myself to watch the prequels. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: jason on October 13, 2009, 07:53:20 AM Its sometimes very hard to tell what will captivate kids. You know Jar Jar Binks? Wildly popular with 4-5 year olds. The screening I saw it at was about 1/3 kids, most of whom were fidgety and talkative after the first hour, restless because the movie wasn't holding their attention. Jar Jar was at least colorful and loud. The Wild Things are mostly brown and subdued. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: K9 on October 13, 2009, 08:16:08 AM I have seen this film receiving a lot of hype, but I am honestly clueless as to the source material. Is this story a particular US phenomenon? Popular children's book many of us grew up with. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_the_Wild_Things_Are) Thanks, so it's fair to say that most Americans would read this as kids? I'm interested to hear if any non-US people did, I know I had never heard of the book before this. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Nebu on October 13, 2009, 08:21:41 AM I'd say that many of us read it as kids during the 70's and maybe the early 80's. I'm not sure how popular the book was after that.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Engels on October 13, 2009, 08:36:02 AM I'm pretty sure he's considered a classic by now. I know all my nieces and nephews will have Sendak forcefed them, for their own good :)
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: lamaros on October 13, 2009, 06:37:23 PM Read it as a kid in australia. Quite well known here among kids/adults I know.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Sheepherder on October 14, 2009, 01:42:13 AM I read Animal Farm when I was young.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Jherad on October 14, 2009, 05:46:43 AM Thanks, so it's fair to say that most Americans would read this as kids? I'm interested to hear if any non-US people did, I know I had never heard of the book before this. I read it as a kid (in England)- a quick call around the office gets me blank stares, but they're mostly young'uns. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Khaldun on October 14, 2009, 06:47:38 AM In the late 60s, early 70s, it was actually quite a controversial book in the US. Sendak had demonstrations of concerned-mothers groups picketing some of his signings after the book was published. But since then it's morphed into "beloved classic" and it's very nearly mandatory reading.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: K9 on October 14, 2009, 07:10:04 AM Thanks, so it's fair to say that most Americans would read this as kids? I'm interested to hear if any non-US people did, I know I had never heard of the book before this. I read it as a kid (in England)- a quick call around the office gets me blank stares, but they're mostly young'uns. Guess I'm just in the wrong generation then Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: KallDrexx on October 14, 2009, 07:24:51 AM Maybe I don't remember it well enough, since I haven't read it since I was like 3, but what was so controversial?
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Broughden on October 14, 2009, 10:25:09 AM In the late 60s, early 70s, it was actually quite a controversial book in the US. Sendak had demonstrations of concerned-mothers groups picketing some of his signings after the book was published. But since then it's morphed into "beloved classic" and it's very nearly mandatory reading. I didnt like it as a kid. Thought the story and art work of the book sucked. Richard Scary books were my favorite illustrated books as a kid. I was more into the brothers Grimm, and Hans Christian Anderson and finally got into Tolkien. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Abagadro on October 14, 2009, 10:48:35 AM I have two acquaintences with tats of Max in his monster suit.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: bhodi on October 14, 2009, 11:05:52 AM http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfmoms/detail?entry_id=49362
Quote Reporter: "What do you say to parents who think the Wild Things film may be too scary?" Sendak: "I would tell them to go to hell. That's a question I will not tolerate." Reporter: "Because kids can handle it?" Sendak: "If they can't handle it, go home. Or wet your pants. Do whatever you like. But it's not a question that can be answered." Jonze: "Dave, you want to field that one?" Eggers: "The part about kids wetting their pants? Should kids wear diapers when they go to the movies? I think adults should wear diapers going to it, too. I think everyone should be prepared for any eventuality." Sendak: "I think you're right. This concentration on kids being scared, as though we as adults can't be scared. Of course we're scared. I'm scared of watching a TV show about vampires. I can't fall asleep. It never stops. We're grown-ups; we know better, but we're afraid." Reporter: "Why is that important in art?" Sendak: "Because it's truth. You don't want to do something that's all terrifying. I saw the most horrendous movies that were unfit for child's eyes. So what? I managed to survive." Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: jason on October 14, 2009, 12:14:22 PM I don't think any kids will be scared by this film.
Bored, probably, but not scared. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: dusematic on October 14, 2009, 03:21:38 PM New full trailer is up. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/wherethewildthingsare/) Jonze seems like a good match for the material so he might be able to pull it off. Will be interesting. The "material?" Unless you're saying Spike Jonze is a huge pile of shit then I don't know what you mean. The illustrations are the only saving grace from that book. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: dusematic on October 14, 2009, 03:23:35 PM In the late 60s, early 70s, it was actually quite a controversial book in the US. Sendak had demonstrations of concerned-mothers groups picketing some of his signings after the book was published. But since then it's morphed into "beloved classic" and it's very nearly mandatory reading. Mandatory reading? For who? Retards? The book is like 19 pages long with 3 words on each page. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: pxib on October 14, 2009, 03:50:35 PM Quote Eggers: "The part about kids wetting their pants? Should kids wear diapers when they go to the movies? I think adults should wear diapers going to it, too. I think everyone should be prepared for any eventuality." Dave Eggers' humor can get distractingly pedantic in print, but he always interviews well.Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Khaldun on October 14, 2009, 03:57:03 PM New full trailer is up. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/wherethewildthingsare/) Jonze seems like a good match for the material so he might be able to pull it off. Will be interesting. The "material?" Unless you're saying Spike Jonze is a huge pile of shit then I don't know what you mean. The illustrations are the only saving grace from that book. Holy god, but you can be a cunt. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: WindupAtheist on October 14, 2009, 06:29:57 PM I was born in the late seventies and never heard of this book until the media slapped me in the face and told me it was a classic a couple years ago. Mostly when I was watching that one Simpsons episode like "Am I supposed to know what the fuck is going on here?"
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Abagadro on October 14, 2009, 07:33:52 PM New full trailer is up. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/wherethewildthingsare/) Jonze seems like a good match for the material so he might be able to pull it off. Will be interesting. The "material?" Unless you're saying Spike Jonze is a huge pile of shit then I don't know what you mean. The illustrations are the only saving grace from that book. Isn't there some statute of limitations against making a douchey reply to a 7-month old post? Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: lamaros on October 14, 2009, 09:36:40 PM New full trailer is up. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/wherethewildthingsare/) Jonze seems like a good match for the material so he might be able to pull it off. Will be interesting. The "material?" Unless you're saying Spike Jonze is a huge pile of shit then I don't know what you mean. The illustrations are the only saving grace from that book. Isn't there some statute of limitations against making a douchey reply to a 7-month old post? But then you're just out and out banning him from necroing any discussion. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: dusematic on October 14, 2009, 11:36:41 PM New full trailer is up. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/wherethewildthingsare/) Jonze seems like a good match for the material so he might be able to pull it off. Will be interesting. The "material?" Unless you're saying Spike Jonze is a huge pile of shit then I don't know what you mean. The illustrations are the only saving grace from that book. Isn't there some statute of limitations against making a douchey reply to a 7-month old post? Well to be honest, I generally agree with everything you say. I'm probably your biggest fan. But what the fuck do you see in Where The Wild Things Are? I don't get it. It's a childrens book, and a shitty one at that. It doesn't even have a point. The kid gets in trouble then has a fucked out dream and then his Mom gives him dinner anyway even though he didn't do shit. There's no literary merit. The pictures are cool, that's it. It also does the fucked out kiddy book cop-out where they stretch out sentences ("And he sailed, and sailed, and sailed *FLIP THE PAGE* and sailed some more!") Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Abagadro on October 14, 2009, 11:38:15 PM You probably hate Shel Silverstein too.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: dusematic on October 15, 2009, 12:38:19 AM Ya.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Mattemeo on October 15, 2009, 08:14:11 AM But then you're just out and out banning him from necroing any discussion. I'm struggling to see the negative side of that, right now. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: dusematic on October 15, 2009, 09:33:25 PM Basically I just had a pretty legit call out on a middle aged man who was WAY too excited about a film adaptation of one of the shittiest children's books ever written. Better late than never.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Broughden on October 15, 2009, 09:37:52 PM You probably hate Shel Silverstein too. Me too. In the 70's growing up all these adults thought Silverstein was the shit and as a kid were convinced i should love him. I thought his poetry was stupid tripe. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Abagadro on October 15, 2009, 10:24:25 PM I sense a sorting mechanism coming into play.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: dusematic on October 15, 2009, 10:41:23 PM Slytherin, Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, or Ravenclaw?
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Broughden on October 15, 2009, 11:23:55 PM I sense a sorting mechanism coming into play. I was more into George Gordon Byron, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, and John Keats as a child. Sorry but Silverstein doesnt even begin to compare. Im pretty sure that makes me Gryffindor and you Hufflepuff. Silverstein comes off as genuinely Hufflepuffien. :grin: Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: lamaros on October 15, 2009, 11:32:24 PM I sense a sorting mechanism coming into play. I was more into George Gordon Byron, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, and John Keats as a child. Sorry but Silverstein doesnt even begin to compare. Im pretty sure that makes me Gryffindor and you Hufflepuff. Silverstein comes off as genuinely Hufflepuffien. :grin: You should get together with sheepherder. I hear he's pretty chuffed about demonstrating irrelevent pretensions too. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Yegolev on October 16, 2009, 07:10:44 AM But what the fuck do you see in Where The Wild Things Are? I don't get it. It's a childrens book, and a shitty one at that. It doesn't even have a point. The kid gets in trouble then has a fucked out dream and then his Mom gives him dinner anyway even though he didn't do shit. There's no literary merit. The pictures are cool, that's it. It also does the fucked out kiddy book cop-out where they stretch out sentences ("And he sailed, and sailed, and sailed *FLIP THE PAGE* and sailed some more!") My new theory is that your perpetual diarrhea has ejected from your body the unfertilized mass that was once your soul. Not a Silverstein fan, but I don't hate him. I think he might be a pirate, though. (http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/6166/ss/pics/shel001.jpg) Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Mattemeo on October 16, 2009, 08:01:00 AM I was more into George Gordon Byron, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, and John Keats as a child. Wanda: You think you're an intellectual, don't you, ape? Otto West: Apes don't read philosophy. Wanda: Yes they do, Otto. They just don't understand it. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: dusematic on October 16, 2009, 10:12:15 AM But what the fuck do you see in Where The Wild Things Are? I don't get it. It's a childrens book, and a shitty one at that. It doesn't even have a point. The kid gets in trouble then has a fucked out dream and then his Mom gives him dinner anyway even though he didn't do shit. There's no literary merit. The pictures are cool, that's it. It also does the fucked out kiddy book cop-out where they stretch out sentences ("And he sailed, and sailed, and sailed *FLIP THE PAGE* and sailed some more!") My new theory is that your perpetual diarrhea has ejected from your body the unfertilized mass that was once your soul. (http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/6166/ss/pics/shel001.jpg) OK, now tell me why I'm wrong. It's a a meaningless picture book. Do you think the Wiggles started out in life to do music for children? No. They failed at making music for adults first for years. The point is that no one starts out in life wanting to produce anything for children. It's a cop out for when you've failed at doing shit for adults. Anyway, I'm glad you have fond memories of this book. I just liked the idea of someone talking about a director being "right for the material" when the book is just a bunch of pictures with 5 words on each page. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: HaemishM on October 16, 2009, 10:18:11 AM Please stop talking now.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: dusematic on October 16, 2009, 10:27:53 AM Only because it was you who asked! By the way, your online novel rocks dewd!
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Mattemeo on October 16, 2009, 11:10:39 AM So, what we've really ascertained is that Dusematic doesn't understand the synergy between the febrile style and sequential visual medium employed by a director, and the febrile style and sequential visual medium employed by an illustrator.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Khaldun on October 16, 2009, 01:07:07 PM OK, now tell me why I'm wrong. It's a a meaningless picture book. Do you think the Wiggles started out in life to do music for children? No. They failed at making music for adults first for years. The point is that no one starts out in life wanting to produce anything for children. It's a cop out for when you've failed at doing shit for adults. Anyway, I'm glad you have fond memories of this book. I just liked the idea of someone talking about a director being "right for the material" when the book is just a bunch of pictures with 5 words on each page. This defines a whole new level of human failure. You can't even get being a curmudgeon or a misanthropist right. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Prospero on October 16, 2009, 01:15:12 PM I'm not sure how I feel about the movie, but I quite enjoy the book. I read it daily, sometimes 10 times in a row. :awesome_for_real:
You're broken Duse, in every way a human can be. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Merusk on October 16, 2009, 03:13:46 PM Pretty sure nothing that has the shits for 10 years is human.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Lakov_Sanite on October 16, 2009, 03:21:53 PM OK, now tell me why I'm wrong. It's a a meaningless post. Do you think the Windupathiest started out in life to troll in game forums? No. They failed at making posts for adults first for years. The point is that no one starts out in life wanting to write anything for assholes. It's a cop out for when you've failed at writing shit for adults. Anyway, I'm glad you have fond memories of this post. I just liked the idea of someone talking about dusematic being "right for the material" when the post is just a bunch of trolls with 5 coherent words on each page.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: K9 on October 17, 2009, 09:06:21 AM I eagerly await Dusematic's scything analysis of The Very Hungry Caterpillar.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: DraconianOne on October 17, 2009, 11:06:36 AM The Very Hungry Caterpillar is terrible. I mean really - how can people say this is a classic compared to Dostoyevsky or Dan Brown? There's no decent characterization, no exploration of the human condition or pseudo-metanalogous philosophicating on the moral nature of being - all it is is a fucking caterpillar eating something every day. And the pictures are crap - they look like something that would only appeal to children.
Don't even get me started on that Gruffalo piece of shit. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Mrbloodworth on October 17, 2009, 12:40:08 PM Was this thread aboot a movie?
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: dusematic on October 17, 2009, 04:13:06 PM They're just pissy because I think a children's book they like is crummy. Do you guys want to tell me what great literature the Bearenstein Bears series is now? Honestly. OoOOoOo, an adult who thinks a meaningless picture book is shitty! CONTROVERSY. Get over yourselves, lol.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: WindupAtheist on October 17, 2009, 06:12:45 PM OK, now tell me why I'm wrong. It's a a meaningless post. Do you think the Windupathiest started out in life to troll in game forums? No. They failed at making posts for adults first for years. The point is that no one starts out in life wanting to write anything for assholes. It's a cop out for when you've failed at writing shit for adults. Anyway, I'm glad you have fond memories of this post. I just liked the idea of someone talking about dusematic being "right for the material" when the post is just a bunch of trolls with 5 coherent words on each page. Did I just own your face in a completely different thread? I think I did. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: dusematic on October 17, 2009, 06:17:36 PM Wait, why did he bring you into this? Are you a known sympathizer? DO YOU BEAR THE SIGN OF THE BEAST?
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Lakov_Sanite on October 17, 2009, 07:00:52 PM Naw, simond is your true opponent. I just go for the low blows.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Samwise on October 17, 2009, 08:17:42 PM Just saw this. It wasn't bad, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a kid's movie. It felt much more to me like a movie about childhood for adults. Very different from the book, which I guess is inevitable if you're adapting a few sentences into something feature-length.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Venkman on October 18, 2009, 02:20:08 PM I actually wouldn't be surprised if that was the intent. I think it was in some NPR interview where Spike or the guy who co-wrote the screenplay said something like this being an adult-targeted book about that adult being a kid.
I'm sure there's a shitload of psychoanalysis and allegories and all sorts of philosophical stuff that could go into reviewing source material. But none of that explains why they thought it'd make a good movie. A lot of folks I know were excited when the movie was announced. I instead had to dig up a copy of the book to see if I could figure out why. I couldn't. It's a picture book for, at most, 4 year olds, and the movie itself looks very much targeting 20-30 somethings. I dunno, maybe it's a nostalgia play? In any case, it's certainly nothing worth getting angry over. There's so many "beloved childhood classics" at this point they all come of as chum-scrubbing money plays when adapted to movies. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Samwise on October 18, 2009, 04:26:05 PM I'd say the theme to both the book and the movie is early childhood angst. In the book Max's sojourn into the land of the wild things is a picturesque representation of having a good stew when you're sent to your room and you don't feel like it was your fault. The audience for the book isn't expected to understand this, but that's what the author is expressing.
The movie takes that basic theme and expands upon it, using the wild things as a way for Max to grow a little and understand what it's like for other people to deal with someone who's pissed off and irrational all the time. At the same time, by showing a bit of Max's circumstances and motivations the audience is invited to see what it's like from his perspective, and remember what it's like to be a kid and feel alienated from those you love but not know how to make it better. So it's trying to do a lot more than the book did. IMO it's less entertaining for it, but I'm pretty sure I see what they were going for. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: lamaros on October 18, 2009, 05:46:08 PM You should read some of the papers out there on the book... people think the book is doing a lot more than you suggest.
(I read a few of them because I wrote a paper on the book a year or so ago. I'm not crazy.) Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Cheddar on October 18, 2009, 09:12:22 PM (I'm... crazy.) Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: schild on October 18, 2009, 09:13:17 PM There's very little more annoying than when people chop up words to make shit not funny.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: dusematic on October 18, 2009, 09:32:37 PM I feel like we've come full circle. I feel invigorated and a little bit inspired.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: UnSub on October 19, 2009, 02:26:53 AM Not a Silverstein fan, but I don't hate him. I think he might be a pirate, though. (http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/6166/ss/pics/shel001.jpg) I think we could play a game called "Children's Author Or International Terrorist?" with that photo. My eldest son used to love The Giving Tree which I find the world's most fucking depressing book. Fortunately, now he only likes it for the part where the boy is young and we don't have to go through the allegory for how women appreciate being life's punching bags every time. I look forward to Michael Gondry's "The Giving Tree" coming out in 2015. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Sheepherder on October 19, 2009, 03:59:36 AM You should get together with sheepherder. I hear he's pretty chuffed about demonstrating irrelevent pretensions too. I'm a monomaniacal asshole, not pretentious. If I were pretentious I would be spewing shit out of my mouth about how great Pinot Noir is, the deep metaphor of Ayn Rand's vaginal pillaging scene, how valuable my time is that I pay others to do menial tasks, and generally be a douche. I also wouldn't dare talk about how I've read a number of Tom Clancy books, or those Star Wars However, the Animal Farm bit was dead serious. When I was young I got a lot of ideas on the next book to read by looking at what my brother was doing for school at the time, he is three years older than me. Stuff like Where The Wild Things Are didn't actually last me too long before I got into novels. EDIT: I mean really - how can people say this is a classic compared to Dostoyevsky or Dan Brown? No. Though it's probably the position of pretentious people to shit on his work now that everyone likes it. In all fairness, it isn't bad. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: dusematic on October 19, 2009, 09:44:51 AM Fuck Dan Brown and fuck you. I need to go find a Mexican to pick me up a case of Pinot Noir.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Teleku on October 19, 2009, 10:46:35 AM 1.) I've never heard of anybody not reading this book until I read this thread. I thought it was pretty much mandatory along with Hungary Caterpillar.
2.) Why the fuck are some of you trying to compare this book to real actual literature (like Brother's Grimm or fucking Animal Farm. You fuckers weren't reading those books when you were 5, no matter what you say)? This is a picture book for 4-5 year olds just learning to read, and a great one at that. Hell, its my 2 year old nephew's favorite book to be read to him, and he still can't string out a coherent sentence yet. It is a children's book classic, not a literary classic. Fuck. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: jason on October 19, 2009, 11:51:41 AM 1.) I've never heard of anybody not reading this book until I read this thread. I thought it was pretty much mandatory along with Hungary Caterpillar. This thread marks the first I've heard of The Very Hungry Caterpillar. Not everyone's childhood was identical. There are many thousands of children's books, and there isn't a single one you can say everyone has read.Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Broughden on October 19, 2009, 01:20:34 PM 1.) I've never heard of anybody not reading this book until I read this thread. I thought it was pretty much mandatory along with Hungary Caterpillar. 2.) Why the fuck are some of you trying to compare this book to real actual literature (like Brother's Grimm or fucking Animal Farm. You fuckers weren't reading those books when you were 5, no matter what you say)? This is a picture book for 4-5 year olds just learning to read, and a great one at that. Hell, its my 2 year old nephew's favorite book to be read to him, and he still can't string out a coherent sentence yet. It is a children's book classic, not a literary classic. Fuck. Did you read any Richard Scary picture books? No? Then shut the fuck up about what is and is not central to a good childhood. And why the fuck would anyone read a book to their child about a Hungarian caterpillar? :why_so_serious: Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Slyfeind on October 19, 2009, 02:19:58 PM Who did the one with the Edge of Nowhere and the Trollusk and Typhoonigator? That was some good shit. Someone should do a movie about that.
Edit: But make it real and gritty and dark. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Samwise on October 19, 2009, 03:04:28 PM Did you read any Richard Scary picture books? No? Then shut the fuck up about what is and is not central to a good childhood. I read a lot of Richard Scarry in my youth, and I find it somewhat preposterous that you prefer Scarry's Korean-sweatshop-style artwork over Sendak's stuff. As a kid I liked them both, but Sendak definitely stands the test of time better. I have a hard time even remembering now what I liked about Scarry's work, other than that there was a lot of it. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Merusk on October 19, 2009, 04:48:24 PM Lowly the worm rocked, yo.
I liked that ever damn thing was labeled, and you could make up tons of stories for the background events of the pictures. Tons and tons of art. I never read Where the Wild Things Are until my parents bought it for my four-years-younger brother and by that time I was 11 and disinterested. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Teleku on October 19, 2009, 04:50:18 PM Did you read any Richard Scary picture books? No? Then shut the fuck up about what is and is not central to a good childhood. Where the fuck did I describe what makes a good child hood? I'm just laughing at the people who seem to be claiming they were reading War and Peace when they were 5. Richard Scarry books are fine (and I had many). Though I agree with Sam, Wild Things artwork blows them out of the water.1.) I've never heard of anybody not reading this book until I read this thread. I thought it was pretty much mandatory along with Hungary Caterpillar. This thread marks the first I've heard of The Very Hungry Caterpillar. Not everyone's childhood was identical. There are many thousands of children's books, and there isn't a single one you can say everyone has read.Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Sheepherder on October 19, 2009, 06:19:20 PM Where the fuck did I describe what makes a good child hood? I'm just laughing at the people who seem to be claiming they were reading War and Peace when they were 5. Richard Scarry books are fine (and I had many). Though I agree with Sam, Wild Things artwork blows them out of the water. True, just saying I was shocked because I literally don't know a single person in real life who hasn't read these books as children. Some people asked earlier about how popular this book was, and this was a response to that. You're missing the point, slightly, though I didn't exactly expand on it too much, because it started as snark. Where the Wild Things Are doesn't need a movie. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: KallDrexx on October 19, 2009, 07:43:44 PM Where the Wild Things Are doesn't need a movie. How many film adaptations really needed (or warranted) a movie? Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: lamaros on October 19, 2009, 08:45:27 PM Where the Wild Things Are doesn't need a movie. How many film adaptations really needed (or warranted) a movie? 17. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Broughden on October 19, 2009, 09:07:16 PM Where the Wild Things Are doesn't need a movie. How many film adaptations really needed (or warranted) a movie? 17. You sure its not 42? (Teleku, stay calm, the smiley face meant I was being snarky) Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Sheepherder on October 19, 2009, 10:09:54 PM How many film adaptations really needed (or warranted) a movie? The ones where they aren't using name-dropping techniques on par with the worst WoW realm forum to dig up the corpse of and skull fuck your childhood? But yeah, just because they do it constantly doesn't mean they shouldn't cut that shit out and revive something worth watching. On the other hand, maybe we're lucky it's this way. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: JWIV on October 19, 2009, 10:25:29 PM 1.) I've never heard of anybody not reading this book until I read this thread. I thought it was pretty much mandatory along with Hungary Caterpillar. This thread marks the first I've heard of The Very Hungry Caterpillar. Not everyone's childhood was identical. There are many thousands of children's books, and there isn't a single one you can say everyone has read.My wife was aghast when she discovered that I had never read, let alone heard of, Goodnight Moon. So yes, this. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Samwise on October 20, 2009, 12:40:26 AM My wife was aghast when she discovered that I had never read, let alone heard of, Goodnight Moon. So yes, this. I had the pop-up edition of that one. It was my favorite book for a while. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: dusematic on October 20, 2009, 01:13:25 AM I liked Roald Dahl. That's the earliest author I remember liking. George's Marvelous Medicine truly was marvelous, no?
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: DraconianOne on October 20, 2009, 11:39:16 AM How many film adaptations really needed (or warranted) a movie? Trivia: of the current top 20 films listed on IMDB, 11* are adaptations of novels/short stories, 2 are adaptations of stage plays and 1 is based on a comic book. *Strictly speaking there are only 9 as Godfather 1 & 2 and Lord of the Rings 1 & 3 arguably both come from the same book. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Samwise on October 20, 2009, 11:51:00 AM I liked Roald Dahl. That's the earliest author I remember liking. I also loved me some Roald Dahl, but not until I was at least 5 or 6 and able to tackle long chunks of text solo. I suspect at some point you read picture books (or had them read to you) and enjoyed them, much as it may pain you to think of it now. :wink: Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: K9 on October 20, 2009, 01:36:06 PM The Fantastic Mr. Fox movie comes out soon; I'm quite excited about that.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: dusematic on October 20, 2009, 11:02:16 PM I liked Roald Dahl. That's the earliest author I remember liking. I also loved me some Roald Dahl, but not until I was at least 5 or 6 and able to tackle long chunks of text solo. I suspect at some point you read picture books (or had them read to you) and enjoyed them, much as it may pain you to think of it now. :wink: Oh hell yeah. Don't conflate what I'm saying with what some other people were saying. I don't remember reading Where The Wild Things Are but I'm sure it was awesome at the time. I wasn't reading Percy Bysshe Shelley at the age of seven (still ain't). I just thought it was funny that someone was talking about a director being "right for the material" when the material is a shitty picture book. Then everyone attacked me for 2 pages and claimed I had pooped out my soul. Just because I liked something when I was five doesn't mean it's awesome. Children's books suck dick. It's because children are basically miniature retarded people, but way cuter. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Khaldun on October 24, 2009, 02:35:45 PM Well, aside from whatever you think of the Sendak book, the movie is just not very good. Visually interesting. But very morose, neurotic emotional mood. Not even a deep Freudian kind of neurotic, either...sort of American-suburban domesticated psychoanalytic mode. Seems to me to be missing both the bacchanal feeling of the middle of the book and more primal, elemental childhood feelings.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: VainEldritch on November 03, 2009, 02:25:20 AM From the trailer this movie does not look anywhere near dark enough nor scary enough. I was terrified of the Wild Things when I was a wee lad, but the Wild Things in the movie look like giant muppets (they even walk and move like man-in-costume muppets).
Wild Things should be dark and scary as in "big monster dark and scary" - but the genuinely disturbing dark corner of the nursery soul still belongs to Grim's fairytales: dancing in red hot iron shoes until you die, eyes pecked out by crows - this is what kids need to scare the crap out of them, not muppets. Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Samwise on November 03, 2009, 08:16:51 AM The movie was actually a fair bit darker and scarier than the book IMO. Max never seems terrified for his life in the book.
Title: Re: Where the Wild Things Are Post by: Khaldun on November 03, 2009, 09:07:15 AM I dunno, the monsters aren't exactly happy in the book when Max decides to split.
|