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Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHw8URgDvxM)

Alex Proyas new movie.  Watch it.  Come back and tell me you're interested in getting on an airplane.

If nothing else, this movie was visually arresting.  For the Proyas fans willing to jump in without any idea, don't watch the trailer.  Marketing fuckheads once again ruin major plot points.

Heard it was an epic fail.

I'd have a hard time calling it a great movie, but I'd still consider it a good movie.  It definitely has Alex Proyas touches all over it.  The story has a twilight zone-esque vibe.

Ebert (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090318/REVIEWS/903189991) gave it four stars, and has a spoilerific blog entry about it if you're interested, but then he's been an Alex Proyas fanboy for some time so he's probably just as generous in forgiving the movie's flaws as I would be in a, "review scenario."

I don't know if it was a good movie, but it kept me interested throughout.

Man, Ebert calls this the greatest Science Fiction movie he's seen in a long time. For the record, he also gushed over the directors previous work, Dark City.

That probably has me more interested than any amount of ENTIRESTORYGODDAMMIT trailers ever could. Despite Nick Cage playing the same ridiculous role with equally ridiculous hair, I'm going to catch this.

Am i the only one who liked Dark City? Based on ads i was completely uninterested in this movies. Ill check it out.

What?  No way, there's at least two threads of recent where the discussion digressed into how much we want to marry Dark City and have it's babies.

Trust me, you are not the only one.

Sorry.  Loved Dark City, but Nick Cage.

Nick Fucking Cage.

Man hasn't done anything good on purpose ever.

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh, you're one of them.

First 90% of that movie is great, last 10% is utter shit.

What, people with taste? The last time cage did a decent job was in Valley Girl.

What? You didn't like SNAKEEYES?!  :grin:

You're on the list now too, pal.

Or Con Air, or Face Off, or Ghost Rider, or Bangkok Dangerous.

Matchstick Men and City of Angels were pretty good, tho.

Aye, alas.

But don't worry.  Different Strokes and whatnot.

He's been in some good movies, and a lot of crap.  It's never a plus for me when he is in a movie, but he has managed not to fuck it up sometimes when he does get a good role.

Raising Arizona, bitch.

You shut your dirty mouth. Most of those movies sucked but ConAir was damn enjoyable."Put the bunny down..."

I love Dark City (and this guy also directed The Crow). He would be the only reason I'd see this movie, because I've come to despise Nic Cage.

I second this.  Raising Arizona is one of those movies that I could watch every day, literally, and not bore of it.

Hell, anyone could do Raising Arizona tho.  Stick bloody Earl in there and it still works.

It wasn't a hit due to Nick Cage.  It's a hit because it was a good film with a nice script.  Also, whatsherchops is excellent.

I don't mind Nick Cage. Besides the movies mentioned above, he was also pretty good in Lord of War.

Dark City was good but this was just fucking awful.

This isn't Politics, would you care to elaborate beyond "fucking awful"?

Fucking awful.

Hopelessly written script, forced attempt at emotional attachment, men in black bogeyman references from 1990, shitty lead actress, overdone end of the world schlock, shitty time capsule nonsense and pseudo-science bullshit all rolled in to a fucking awful production.

The only thing preventing this from being the SyFy movie of the week was the lack of professional wrestling and people in leather clothing.

But does it have large insects and or snakes?

You can do better than that, come on!  It's clear you FUCKINGHATERAGESMASH this movie(or Nic Cage, not that it matters in this case), so spoilers obviously aren't a problem for you.

Please, do tell what horribleness stood out in that script when you read it, and please be specific.  "Overdone end of the world schlock," isn't going to get you a passing grade, so please give examples of what it is to be overdone schlock.  I'm unsure why a time capsule is nonsense and/or shitty, so please elaborate.  With the mention of production, you are being painfully ignorant, so please explain your point of view before raging at the Nicolas Cage haircut again, and this time explain yourself instead of throwing around glib generalizations that could potentially be made of any movie or television show without having to back it up.

Or you could just say you didn't like it and move on.  Good luck!

Don't you think you're being a tad defensive over a movie that's pulling a 24% on RottenTomatoes.

I am a biased Proyas fanboy, enough to the point that I didn't mind I, Robot despite being an even bigger Asimov fan, so maybe I am being a tad defensive.  In defense of my...erm, defensiveness, I'd like to point out that when Dark City came out it did not get almost any of the praise it does now(Ebert the big exception), and reviewed very poorly with most.

As an aside, it's rather tiring to see the same shitty comments of no value being parroted with no thought put behind them.  It's not that I don't care if you liked the movie or not, but this is f13 and I expect people to write at least a bit better than the average "gaming journalists".  Back up your statements with actual examples instead of throwing fucking-useless buzzwords in the mix.  Oban's post tells me about as much about his thoughts on the movie as I could have got if he had just left it at, "fucking awful."  That is what I'm really taking exception with, not that he didn't like the movie.

I Robot was eye-candyingly mince.

I Robot was 'fucking awful.'  :awesome_for_real:

Okay, I lol'd.  And yeah, I, Robot was pretty bad.

lol wut

I liked it right up to the predictable Disney ending. And I would have accepted that if not for the fact that it all looked so fecking plastic and fake. Some of the worst CGI I've ever seen.

Oh and  :heart: Dark City. First VCD I ever purchased. And Kiefer Sutherland didn't hurt either.  :drill:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYkw-5htPw0

 :awesome_for_real:

  Cage forgot to act somewhere along the way after winning for Leaving Las Vegas.  Lord of War was the only thing decent he's made since then.  Just the fact that he made movies called Next and Knowing back to back with identical premises is a pretty good indication that he's taken his 'eff you' money and stopped caring.  That, and he named his kid Kal-El. 

Whoa.

Also, yeah Lord of War was good. Everything else I can think of since then? Ragequit.

Lord of War and The Weather Man are two of my favorite Cage movies, at least among the most recent crop. I remember I got them both on Netflix at the same time one evening, and the people I had over my apartment thought I was developing a weird new fetish. If I had The Wickerman on my queue at the time, I believe I would have reached the perfecta trifecta and achieved Godhood.

I forgot about the Weather Man. That was decent, but nothing to write home about. Ghost Rider must have overwrote my memories of that movie.

Just saw it with 3 friends and we all agreed it didn't do too badly but felt hollow. What was the point of it all?

How do you Cage fans not point out The Rock?! Yea, I know someone's gonna say "sucked", but it was a damn fun movie. Connery helped a lot. I liked it more than Con Air, though I did like that too. It's about the stare, like when he finally lifts the gun in The Rock or when he's stalking to the cockpit in Con Air.

Haven't seen Knowing. No interest.

Only reason I don't really mention The Rock is because I'm still a little miffed about them not showing more of Vanessa Marcil wearing even less.  It was a damn fun movie, though.

Just saw this.

The movie was fine. The alien part near the end was fucking inexcusably lazy. It wasn't bad, it's just like time travel. It's what bad writers do when they have no clue what to do for a pivotal scene. The ending itself was fine, and honestly, kinda fucking cool looking (both the destruction and the idyllic alien planet).

My roommate just rented this tonight.  OMG, this movie was a gigantic pile of SUCK.

Ok, it wasn't a total waste because it had me laughing at many points... and this is not a comedy.  Aside from the laughs it will give you, this is just a bad, bad, bad movie.  And by bad, I mean fuckin' terrible.  I thought the remake of "The Day The Earth Stood Still" was terrible, but I'd have to say it's about 10x better than this piece of shit... But that could be because it had Jennifer Connelly in it.

Wife bought this and brought it home last night.  Visually very interesting.

As a father, I would have let my kid go on the spaceship, because hey, it's my kid and I'd want them to live.

As a human, I'd still have shot that smug alien/angel in his stupid glowy brain.  They've been lurking around for hundreds (perhaps thousands) of years, and they can apparently see the future, but won't do a goddamn thing to save the bulk of humanity--they just want to save the few they can mold and manipulate.  That's a pretty big "fuck you" to the human race, IMO.  I'd be taking one down with me :P

Is it fair the call the ending lazy? Doesn't that require the belief that the writers wrote themselves into a corner, as opposed to it being their point from the get-go? Or was it just done particularly lazy?

It's not so much that they wrote themselves into a corner, it's that the corner makes almost no sense. I don't need to have the alien's motives and behavior spoonfed to me, but the shit should at least make an ounce of sense if they're going to reveal pretty much nothing and leave it all open to speculation. Is dumping the dozen human children you saved on an alien planet under the guardianship of a glowing white space-tree and then leaving really responsible? Is the white tree Nimloth? Is it a vampiric psychic space-tree and the aliens were just dropping off some food for it? The best plan that hyperadvanced space aliens who can see into the future could come up with is visions in children that cause automatic writing, mental illness, and eventual suicide? Did the kids they save have some sort of latent psychic ability that made them alone worth saving? Would saving a parent or two along with them have hurt much? If the aliens can do all the other stuff they did, they should really have been able to sort out the parents who were secretly insane baby fuckers and taken the genuinely good ones. While I'm sure that the glowing vampire space tree is a really great guy, I bet it's going to know fuckall nothing about medical care, basic nutrition, or how to explain menstruation to the girls in a couple years. And that just the stuff that the last 30 seconds of the movie inspires, and that's not even a quarter of the questions it raised for me.

That, and Cage being a shitty, shit, shit actor made the movie a general waste of time except for the great effects of the plane and subway crash. Please note that the minute after the plane crashed the movie returned to total shitwith all the people running around on fire and the secondary explosions. Almost as bad as Lost or Castaway where the engines run for 30 minutes after they're off the plane and half underwater.