Title: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: squirrel on March 11, 2009, 11:07:23 AM Looks like LoTRO and WoW were right about those damn boars! (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20090311.BOAR11/TPStory/National)
Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 11, 2009, 11:16:50 AM There are no boars in Evendom. :grin:
Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Lantyssa on March 11, 2009, 01:23:21 PM I hate feral hogs. They're one of the few animals I'm in favor of nuking from orbit. Once you have a few breeding escapees it creates a mess.
Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Merusk on March 11, 2009, 02:29:09 PM So I don't know much about hunting and guns, but hunting feral boars with a .223 rifle seems a tad suicidal. Sure, it may be enough to shoot foxes or scare coyotes, but that seems pretty fucking small to be using against wild pigs.
Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Chimpy on March 11, 2009, 02:52:09 PM So I don't know much about hunting and guns, but hunting feral boars with a .223 rifle seems a tad suicidal. Sure, it may be enough to shoot foxes or scare coyotes, but that seems pretty fucking small to be using against wild pigs. Not if you are using an AR-15 on full auto! Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Lantyssa on March 11, 2009, 02:56:35 PM I would feel safer with a .270 and up. Head-on and with a .223 it is just going to richocet off or embed in their skull, hide, and bones. A 300 lb. boar has an incredibly thick hide backed by an inch or more of thick fat. Barbed-wire fence? Just ignores it and barrels through.
All those epic tales which start off with a boar hunt? They did that to show how heroic and epic the hunter was. It's because the beasts are biological tanks. Once you piss one off, like say by looking at it, you're a target. Mean, nasty, incredibly tough beasts. It's a toss-up on whether I would rather encounter one of the larger bear species or a boar. (Sows and young hogs are usually going to run, so they don't freak me out as much. Still having a small herd of ten run out fifty feet from me when I was in an open field and completely ignore me until I fired was very disconcerting. [I moved to a safe spot before doing so, just in case.]) Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: JoeTF on March 11, 2009, 03:44:42 PM I would feel safer with a .270 and up. Head-on and with a .223 it is just going to richocet off or embed in their skull, hide, and bones. A 300 lb. boar has an incredibly thick hide backed by an inch or more of thick fat. Barbed-wire fence? Just ignores it and barrels through. All those epic tales which start off with a boar hunt? They did that to show how heroic and epic the hunter was. It's because the beasts are biological tanks. Once you piss one off, like say by looking at it, you're a target. Mean, nasty, incredibly tough beasts. It's a toss-up on whether I would rather encounter one of the larger bear species or a boar. (Sows and young hogs are usually going to run, so they don't freak me out as much. Still having a small herd of ten run out fifty feet from me when I was in an open field and completely ignore me until I fired was very disconcerting. [I moved to a safe spot before doing so, just in case.]) If they're such a mean death machines, how can you explain that my city has them walking around in dozens during summer and they never hurt anyone. I cannot find it right now, but there is a youtube video of someone filming entire pack from ~2 meters. Well, you can watch this one while I'm still looking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB7yPZPbquU&feature=related Boars are cute! They're as cute as your avatar, and your avatars are sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet!:) Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Merusk on March 11, 2009, 04:00:21 PM Luck?
Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: JoeTF on March 11, 2009, 04:21:30 PM Except, there are dozens of such videos not a single case of boar attack was reported (yet).
Funny thing is, that you hear stories like the one Lantyssa tells you from every boar hunter around the world. Even my uncle who hasn't hold gun in his life told me how feracious, murdering beast boar was and how they needed entire 20 man hunting party to track it down. And then you see video like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlqyGVQR66I By the hunters POV, the guy in video would have need a minigun, fuck, fully armed main battle tank or maybe even an ICBM to save himself. I guess stories do hold some of truth and boar that never saw a human, (when it's sow protecting young or wounded wild boar) can attack human and be quite good at it, but describing boars as nasty beasts that attack just form glancing is vast over. As is calling boar hunting heroic and epic. You have numerical advantage, heavy guns, and you're shooting what is essentially a grass eater FFS. (Not to mention the ubar huntaz who only shot boars from observation posts 10m above ground, cause them boars are, ya know, so deadly dangerous) Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Merusk on March 11, 2009, 04:31:03 PM Grass eater? No. They're omnivores and will eat any and everything that comes across their path. This makes them seen as somewhat of an ecological threat over here.
http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/land/wildlife/publ/wlnotebook/pig.htm Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Lantyssa on March 11, 2009, 06:12:38 PM Maybe because those are 1) sows and 2) raised in proximity to humans? Pigs are not stupid animals, and if raised with humans can be quite docile. They make very friendly pets. Much like feral dogs, because they come from domesticated animals who are now wild, their upbringing determines how well they can do with humans. A feral pup will do fine compared to a wolf pup. Same with feral pigs versus a javalina (though javalina are skittish, not aggressive).
You'll note in my last post I said sows and pigletts are not much threat. I am talking about feral boars. Pig != boar. Their omnivore nature isn't so bad in and of itself. However they prefer grubs, roots, and a great many things which grow just under the soil. They can cause a massive amount of damage due to their voracious appetites and rooting up the ground. What they don't eat it, they'll tear up getting at what they do. Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Oban on March 11, 2009, 06:13:49 PM I swear to god, that panda attacked me first.
Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Lantyssa on March 11, 2009, 09:03:29 PM They're vicious! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=occw-8sSao4)
Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 12, 2009, 06:46:56 AM They're vicious! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=occw-8sSao4) Now i want one =( Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Oban on March 12, 2009, 06:57:23 AM A red panda military invasion would decimate any G7 country within two weeks.
Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Cyrrex on March 12, 2009, 07:03:44 AM Okay, I didn't realize how adorable those things were until now.
Critical Fake Edit: the red pandas, not the smelly boars. Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: IainC on March 12, 2009, 07:36:21 AM There's a reason that boar spears had a crossbar behind the blade, it was to stop the wild boar thrusting itself along the shaft of your spear to gore you to death once you'd stuck it.
(http://www.kingofswords.com/images/resize2.php?image=../images/m/95BOA.jpg&path=../images/m/95BOA.jpg&width=300) A boar spear yesterday. Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Johny Cee on March 12, 2009, 09:10:46 AM A red panda military invasion would decimate any G7 country within two weeks. It's been my mission to inform the public on the imminent Red Panda threat! Remember: (http://i.current.com/images/studio/asset/2006/10/27/494185_1300613730_400x300.jpg) Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Lantyssa on March 12, 2009, 02:59:44 PM Don't let Cee outfox you. Red Pandas are here to help spread happiness.
Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Tale on March 12, 2009, 05:17:46 PM There was a boar killing movie a la Jaws: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087981/
My school friend's dad was someone important on it. Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Strazos on March 12, 2009, 05:19:46 PM I love how the panda laughs as it headbutts the girl.
Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Johny Cee on March 12, 2009, 07:06:33 PM I love how the panda laughs as it headbutts the girl. Of course it does. PURE evil, hiding behind cute. The panda wanted to drag the poor girl off to it's lair, where it would force her to sew cosplay costumes.... Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Segoris on March 12, 2009, 09:40:30 PM I love how the panda laughs as it headbutts the girl. Of course it does. PURE evil, hiding behind cute. The panda wanted to drag the poor girl off to it's lair, where it would force her to sew cosplay costumes.... Also, note that one of those adorable evil beings was all up in her food trying to claim it as its own. This may seem like a small point, but when she has no food it only helps further the panda's plan to make her sew as now she's motivated to earn her food. Clever bastards Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Merusk on March 13, 2009, 03:57:58 AM There was a boar killing movie a la Jaws: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087981/ My school friend's dad was someone important on it. IMDB is broken for me right now.. but I'm guessing that's 'Razorback'? I remember watching that in 6th or 7th grade at some schoolmate's birthday. Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: Endie on March 15, 2009, 01:34:01 PM You have numerical advantage, heavy guns, and you're shooting what is essentially a grass eater FFS. I'm with Joe on this one, and that bit was particularly important. The armed-hunter-versus-boar K/D ratio should tell its own story. Title: Re: Boar killing...not just in MMORPG's anymore! Post by: SnakeCharmer on March 15, 2009, 03:14:10 PM There's a reason that boar spears had a crossbar behind the blade, it was to stop the wild boar thrusting itself along the shaft of your spear to gore you to death once you'd stuck it. A boar spear yesterday. This guy (http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/hunting/news/story?id=3645112) is insane. One free day I'm going to check out his museum. |