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What features or enhancements would you most like to see in WOW? Please keep it to things that are actually plausible.

I will start off with my two biggest:

1. Item Upgrades - One of the best ways to get people to go back to old content would be to create a mechanic that would allow for you to take weapons or armor and upgrade them through some form of quest and deep money sink. For example: As a warlock I absolutely adore my Season 2 PvP gear but obviously this has been replaced (and probably discarded by many other locks) by level 80 gear (which will be replaced next year, et al).

So how about Blizzard creates a once per week or even month quest that costs a few hundred (or more) gold and allows you to go to a forge (like the now abandoned dark iron forge in Molten Core) and "upgrade" that single piece to level 80? It would not have to be the best gear in game but maybe Nax 10 level. Also the timer on the quest would mean that it would take a month or more to upgrade a set (weapons could be on a different timer and even cost more).

With this mechanic, think of all the possiblities... Go back to get that Rogue Slayer Set or the Core Hound Dagger and get them upgraded! Or get that Tier 1 set upgraded, Arguals robes....whatever. They have the mechanic started already with the bind on account logic.

I think this would open up some new areas and get people to go do old school content again.


2. Dual Spec - we all want it....you know what it is....lets just get it already.

1) Appearance tab

2) Sidekicking/Exemplaring

Clear definition of the hunter class.

If that's not possible, then costume customization.  Wrath armor looks like ass, imo (my 20something warrior in her battleforge set looks better than the 80 stuff).  Besides, everyone starts to look like everyone else eventually anyway.  Armor skins or whatever.  I like to play dress up.  WoW shoulders are dumb looking.

Both of these. Item upgrading is cool also. I want to pull out my old Verigan's Fist from when I was level 20.

I want them to change crit rating to something that will scale with auto-crit abilities like lava burst. Maybe make it increase crit damage instead of crit chance. That would fix a big itemization problem for a number of classes.

Item upgrades will never happen and is a complete pipe dream.

Technically it can be done, since with the ilevel system you can assign values and you could possibly come up with a system that could dynamically upgrade weapons so as to minimize powergaming (would have to be soulbound due to bonuses being different weights for different classes).

However, it's simply not feasible without redoing the entire way they store items in the database. Furthermore, you have two choices with power - either they compete with heroic/25man drops (thus causing less people to run heroics/raids/other instances) or they end up being weaker than those items (and have no one use the system except for novelty).

Also, you have an issue with the method of upgrading - you don't want to give someone with a lot of cash too much advantage over someone who has a lot of time, and vice versa.

You could probably find a happy medium, but the time involved in implementing something like this is way out of scope of the benefit/enjoyment it would provide to the players.

Same as everyone...

Dual Spec (FFS throw us a bone and just get rid of the respec cost)
Appearance Tab
All classes available on the same level 55 as your DK

I'd love to see Mentoring, ie you go down to the lower players level. I'm not sure about sidekicking though--that's when you raise up your sidekick up to your level right? It seems like that would be hard. Most xp here isn't just xp like killing stuff in COX, it's from quests. How do you have a level 10 turning in level 60 quests and not cutting off their future xp or ending up with uber rewards? How can you escalate a lower level to raid level and not have it be unbalancing?

If we're using the terms mentoring/sidekicking, here's what I would do:

Mentoring: (high level dropping to low level friend) allowed to share in quests of the mentoree (and giving lvlXXX gold, or a percentage thereof, of the mentor's level on completion instead of items, thus encouraging mentoring)
Sidekicking: (low level friend buffed to high level) Not allowed to complete quests; this mode would be intend to join friends while raiding instead. Person would be naturally weaker due to not having all lvl 80 abilities, but not so much so that you wouldn't want to take them at least in 5 mans. Advantage of this is they could use or gather higher level items they can use while sidekicking or later as they level up

I just keep all my old sets in the bank and pop them on from time to time, but frankly I like having a progressively evolving look.

My wish-list is just an assortment of priest tweaks and bugfixes really. I couldn't care less about vanity stuff for the most part.

These.

I'm supposed to be a hero, so I should be able to make a unique look rather than work towards the same outfit everyone else has.  It would be really, really nice to be able to play with friends and not worry so much about being their exact level.  Chatting is great and all, but it gets lonely on a new server or starting up an alt.

Plus housing.  I want to be able to hang trophies on the wall and have manequins hold the neat sets of clothing I've acquired.  I'll lump Guild Halls in here even though I don't have a personal stake in them.

Yeah I would definitely put housing at the top of my non-gameplay items.

Actually, houses and guild halls would be kinda cool.

That said I prefer to see Blizz devoting development resources to content rather than fluff.

I'd prefer they do both.  They'll always make more trolls to kill.  It'd be nice to increase the breadth of options for things to do.  It's also great for retention since it gives players something they can do during downtime.

Actually you've inspired me to have a top-of-the-wishlist entry Lan :-)

1) NO MORE FUCKING TROLL INSTANCES.

Gundrak and Drak'tharon are fun though!   :drill:

1) Sidekicking

2) Appearance Tab

3) Customizeable housing

I want to kill robot tauren and demons!

1.  Scalable instances.  I'd like to see solo/duo or even three person version of current dungeons.  I don't care if they drop less loot or even just a token/coin system for loot.  I just would like to do the encounters without raiding and at times, even grouping.

2.  Dual specs.  I've wanted this from the first day I started getting tells, "hey, are you resto?".  I know we're supposedly getting this soonish, but I'm not holding my breath.

3.  Craftable BOE epics for every slot/spec.  This goes a long way to making the game even more casual friendly. 

4.  Fluff.  There needs to be more fun / inconsequential things you can do.  How about really races at Shimmering flats?  How about a destruction derby somewhere now that vehicle combat is in? How about a merry-go-round where I can ride a murloc?  Or a carnival with actual carnival games? 

Make the rewards something stupid like shirts, hats, buff food, bragging rights, whatever. 

5.  I'd like engineering to be a little less useless than it is now. 

6.  Appearence stuff would be nice, but I think Blizzard might be buying the EQ logic of "if people see the awesome gear (LOOK AT THOSE SHOULDERS) being paraded in front of them, they'll want to raid." 

7.  More virtual wordly stuff.  Housing would be a nice start.

edit:  There's so much more I'd like to see.  I'd almost pay to be an intern given a "summer project" there.

Quest items dropping for everyone in the group. It's obnoxious duoing or trioing any drop related quests.

More fluff as well (housing, appearance gear, etc).

I don't really want dual-specs, but thats because I'm a greedy Inscriptionist and it'd kill my profitability.

Appearance tab pleeeeeeeease. I like how my 80's look fine, but I do look like, oh, everyone else. Of course, my DK would probably still look like all the other DKs, as I suspect we would all be wearing either our starter outfit or the one we have by the end of our newbie area.  :drill:

I'd also like some fuckin' housing. I have this feeling they don't want to put in housing for the sake of putting in housing, but goddammit, that's the best sort of housing.

That isn't a feeling, that is an official position they have remarked on many times.

Yes, well, I don't stalk them like you do.  :grin:

I've told you this before! You never listen  :heartbreak:

Yeah, this.  Some better achievements would be nice, too.  It seems like half of the big meta-achievements are about 90% soloing level 30 content and 10% "P.S. you'll also need to do Heroic Gun'drak, hope you're geared" kind of stuff.  Throw in some more questing achievements, like for completing major quest lines, instead of just "Has done 1,000 quests" thing.  More titles would be nice.

Also, could use some kind of help for alts.  Either let my 80s gift their waste XP to one of my alts, or make Bind on Account items either more powerful or more affordable, or something.  Trying to level my priest is damn painful, while my Paladin is soloing Dire Maul, getting no XP and junking gear that my alt would commit murder for.

At least for melee, those BoA items are quite awesome, actually.  Shame it takes a fuckton of currency to get them.

It only seems like a fuckton, till you actually start collecting them. I've probably gone through 300-400 Shards by now and everyone will eventually run out of real items to buy with badgers.

1.  Orca swim form for druids.  Or penguin.  Or dolphin.  Or shark, if they want to be able to explain the whole underwater breathing thing.   I hate the ugly form we have now, it doesn't glide through the water, it more like tries to rock-climb a sheer cliff, horizontally.  I envy the mages for having a zillion polymorph forms.

2.  Orca combat sounds need to be changed.  There should be clicks, for the echolocation.  And some sort of screeching, like the elekk/elephant sounds in Outlands.  Not whale songs.  They can saturate the area where the orcas are with whale song if they want to, but once the things aggro you, they should sound angry.

I'd chip in a vote for a social armor tab, if there was anything in WoW worth wearing.  :uhrr:

If they threw in a social tab, and racial armor sets, that would be keen.

More low level content.

How many altaholics are there? How many times do you really want to do the fucking Barrens? Give us sidekicking or a /level or loads of new lowbie content.

1. A few more 5-mans would be nice. Something themed a bit differently than most of the WoTLK stuff would be cool. How about an outdoor/indoor Scarlet Onslaught 5-man? Or an underground paradise 5-man akin to the last portion of Maraudon?

2. More badge loot. I don't even run that many heroics between raids and I'm just about out of stuff to buy. Maybe make some more heirloom items for another slot.

3. Make none of the raid content in WoTLK cockblocky in any way. Each raid being progressively tougher is fine with me but -absolutely no- encounter that requires a reasonably good raid to raid-stack and give 110% output to have a chance at it. Removing all attunements is a good start.

4. No fucking troll raids. No more. Don't need another, don't want another. I'll take another dragon raid before I take a troll raid.

5. Speaking of that, if it ain't Deathwing or Grim Batol then I don't want another dragon raid either.

6. EXPAND THE STARTING BACKPACK.

Player housing so I can steal WUA's house key and loot his house dry?

How about leveling speed increased by a factor based on how many other characters you have of at least that level?  Call it: "level a class a little bit, if you don't like it at least you aren't fucked™".

- Dual-speccing.
- A viable second role for Mages.
- Sidekicking up/down.

4) Guild levels/acheivements.

5) Better LFG system.

Hell, just steal all of the above from EQ2 and be done with it.

THIS.

It's actually why I stopped playing WoW again a little over a week ago. I'm possibly geared for heroic Gundrak, on the low end of the scale, but simply having that many WotLK dungeons to have to run just fucked me right off. The Valentine's day requires 10-man Naxx. As my guild is shit, and I can't be arsed trying to get into PUG raids that's closed off as well. So fuck it all.

While I agree with the bitching about Heroic Gund (so far they've all been doable by < level cap chars now they kick up the req? Stupid.) the Nax one is doable with 2 people.  Get a buddy, make a raid, zone in.  Drop Fool, Pity Fool, done.

The extent to which you crave my attention is astounding.

Love the idea of scalable instances. Not sure what the down side to doing this would be. I doubt it would take a lot of effort with the exception of maybe taxing their already overworked and stressed instance servers. However this would excellent to train for raids not to mention those times when you just dont want to deal with people :) 

Fact is even though its an MMO, people like to fly solo a lot.

Also would really like to see more fluff. Derby's and races would be exceptionally fun. How about a daily "amazing race" type event where you race to 10 random points on the world map to pick up items from the NPC? ...and no flight paths, you use your own mounts.

Very few raid encounters would scale well down to 5-man or less without completely crippling or removing the aspects that make encounters distinct. This is somewhat the point of raid encounters, they are inherently more complex and require a variety of toolsets.

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Until such time that you outlevel them so badly they can be soloed.  See: Molten Core/ Onyxia.   Though you can't even Duo BWL thanks to some of the fight mechanics.

- I'd like to see stats attached to materials, and have those stats slightly effect the production of items. Not all iron is created equal, and it would create a more intense market like SWG had.

- Housing. It's been 4 years. Even DAOC did it faster.

- More drinks. I like how you can cook a lot of stuff, but they very little in the drink department. I'd like to have a lot more bartending recipes with various alcoholic beverages. I'd also like them to bring back the stacking food and drink buffs. Like have food do the stat buffs, and have alcohol do rating buffs.

True, I had Naxx in mind when I wrote that and while I could see plague wing being soloable in the distant future, and possible scalability in those fights, there's no clear and obvious way to make all the other fights except for Patch scale without removing all elements that make them anything other than a tank and spank.

dual class

After a few expansions characters are generally so overpowered compared to previous content that they may as well throw this in there.  If they implemented it so your current class/level were locked away as you leveled up your new class to a greater than or equal to status then it would certainly add quite a ton of life to the old zones.  Maybe even let your new class accumulate exp at double/triple the rate or something (until you surpass your original class's level).

I haven't played in 2 years but this would bring me back.  I seriously doubt this will ever be added though as all new high end content would have to be designed for dual class characters to avoid being trivialized (not to mention pvp).  So a dual class feature would definitely risk alienating the entire playerbase.

Here are the objections:

1. The time spent retuning and reitemizing dungeons is time that could have been spent making a new one.  It's more than just smaller numbers and you can see the scars on even the 25 to 10 transition; Thaddius is a joke on 10, but actually kind of hard on 25.  You can't just make the numbers small and have a three-man version of Four Horsemen.  The entire character of Gothik would be lost if you didn't have to split the party into two sets of healers, tanks, and DPS.

2. Non-heroics are easy enough to three man right now.

3. There already is repeatably content that can be done alone or with your friends and leads to epics.  They're called dailies.  Go on over to the AH and buy yourself something nice.

Thanks for reminding me of another reason scalable instances will never happen: Not all classes are created equal.  I don't believe any rogue has solo'd onyxia whereas druids and paladins were doing it at 70.  If it's possible for a rogue to ever solo it, it's something a paladin, druid, or DK could solo it in their sleep.  Unless you'd like to tune 10 different copies of the instance.

 - insert snarky comment about rogues soloing clothies in BGs -

All valid points to be sure... So how about some specific new "tank and spank" type dungeons that can be run solo, 5, 10 or even 25 and scale?

If anyone played AC2 (cringe and duck) they had a pretty cool "gauntlet" run where you simply fought solo mobs that got progressively harder until you either failed or got to an end boss. This could be really well done in WOW to add loot, xp and achievements. Could scale by level.

Plus old content is old.

True but there is something kind of cool about doing MC or even BRD solo... if nothing else than for nostalgia. Would be cool to get something moderately usable out of it.

MC? No. MC should be deleted, and it's designers shot.

BRD is awesome, huge, and should have been a lvl 60 instance. Would quite like to see it as a remade 80 zone.

How can you deny the MC's awesomeness (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/moltencore/)?


Is BRD a giant raid zone?  To make a level 80 instance, they'd probably split off and instance the various wings.

It's a volcano. THAT'S IT.

BRD is a 5man. A huge 5man.

With some trash density and boss complexity adjustments, BRD could make a nice Kara sized raid instance, too.

BRD should have been split into at least three instances. You can really tell that it was originally designed as an EQ-type dungeon.

Clearly we need to revisit Maraudon.


"Day 3, we've run out of food, no end in sight."

What were EQ type dungeons like? So damn long that most people just did the section they cared about and got out as soon as possible?

If they were like DaoC dungeons, which I assume they were. You fought your way into a specific spot, sat your ass down and killed the repops endlessly for XP and Drops.

Non Instanced.

1) get rid of the "you must be this high to ride the pvp gear train" cockblocking.

I can see putting in min arena ranking for a few items, shoulders, epeen tunics, tambourines etc.  but putting an arena rating on every* goddamn piece of gear is a wtf cockblock for someone coming back after not playing for nearly a year.

*the good gear, a mediocre blue does not count.

2) Take a note from WAR, let people que for more than 3 scenerios/bgs, let people que from anywhere in the world (with the exception of other instances)

I chuckled at work at this.

I wasn't a big fan myself of wailing caverns.

Shadowfang keep was awesome.

Blackfathom depths was meh kinda... although random idiocy with candles is ALWAYS HILARIOUS  :why_so_serious:

It sure is! Isn't that right Ingmar!  :grin:

That was a good time.  :heart:

I've said this since freaking TBC.  Gear in PvP serves a means to an end, not an end.  Give people a chance to get comparable gear for PvP* from crafting, honor, reputation, etc, and let them beat the snot out of each other.  PvP isn't suppoed to be about purplez, it's supposed to be about fun and competition.  There's other ways to reward top performers than reimaged raid drops.

*Read: gear with resilience on it.

If you want to know why they don't make instances like they used to, take a guildy who has never been to BRD or BRS and tell them to "take me to <x> boss".

There is a non-trivial possibility they will never find him.

Which I always thought was a good thing.  Better then having the toughest decision be which side of the hallway to pull from as you move from A-B-C-D-End Boss.  Not that I really liked BRD that much except the PvP-ish boss event in the middle of the old T0.5 upgrade questline.  That was awesome.

Speaking of BRD, what ever happened to trash mobs that try and book it when they are low on health?  Bring that shit back.

That's fine when there's only like, 1 or 2 per instance, and stopping them is part of the 'event'... but other wise, fuck that.

My most recent gripe really isn't a big one.  It's related to instances like UBRS and Uldaman still requiring 3 people to summon a boss or open a door.  Come on, you know how hard it is to get 2 other people who want to do that content and are willing to hoof it to BFE to help out with an achievement?  Next to no one wants to do that.  Just remove the barrier of old ancient content requiring more than one person to get through.

They did, last patch.

Enjoy!

Yeah all the keys are done... right after I'd finished the UBRS key chain on my DK I found out they were taking it out.  :oh_i_see:

Went in and got Jenkins and the UBRS achievement a few days ago on my own.  Goddamn General Drakkisath has more HPs than some WOTLK elites. (80k)

So... I can go in and get to General Drak and that goofy little last boss in Uldaman without anyone else required to summon?  Score! 

Everyone told me they took the key to UBRS out, except when I last went in there I needed the key to get in.  Once I had the key I couldn't get past the first boss in UBRS since the door doesn't open for me (always does with more than 3 people).  This was post 3.0, but I don't remember if it was post 3.0.8 or anything.

I am with you Fordel, never liked Mauradon. After my initial runs through it during my first character and after chuckling at the princess, I have never had a desire to go back there... or Black Fathoms Deep for that matter. It is a pretty clear demarcation from when Mara and BFD were examples of how Blizz wanted us to quest and where their direction lies now with most (all) of WotLK.

Man, Fuck Mauradon with a rusty spoon.  I got lost in there 4 times between getting the Dungeon Master achievement and having to go back for the Elder.   Fuck it, fuck it, fuck it.

Also, despite being added late it was one of the first dungeons designed.  Scarlet Monestary was one of the last.

wasn't there a key related achievement? Has that been relegated to Feats of Strength now if you don't need keys?

EDIT: Keymaster achievement. Only needs Skeleton Key for Scholo, Scarlet Key for SM, Stratholme master key and Gnomeregan back door key.

I took the teleport shortcut, found elder fairly easily, and death gated out. And it still took way too long.  :uhrr:

Wow, they really pared it down. WHEN I GOT IT I NEEDED LIKE 400 KEYS, FOTM EASY MODE NOOBS RUINING IT FOR EVERYONE  :uhrr:

 :oh_i_see:

Should probably have mentioned that you need keys from the Outland dungeons too. From the looks of it, the attunements for classic raids never gave keys so were never part of the achievement.

The Keymaster achievement is a somewhat hodge-podge mix of some original and some TBC keys with Violet Hold key thrown in for good measure. There's a lot of keys not on there, but then they might well add another tier of keymaster achievement like they did with the critter achievements.

At the top of my wishlist is for Blizz to stop bumbling around with rogues and make them useful for raids again.  It's frustrating to see paladins, deathknights, and druids able to bring comparable dps while also contributing in other ways.

Also, I really like that idea mentioned earlier about buffing xp gain based on how many characters you have at a certain level.  Been leveling a priest recently and, even with the recent increase in xp gains in azeroth, I still cannot fucking stand how shitfuckcockcuntdicksuck-shitty a lot of the oldworld grind is compared to the stuff in Northrend and even some Outland.

No kidding.  I've been sort of going for the old world loremaster achievement, which means doing almost all of the quests on the old continents.  Some of the drop rates for some of the quests are beyond ridiculous, and ought to be revamped.  The quest standards have changed for the better, but the old world quests have not been updated.

A new person subscribing coming upon one of those horrendous things might well want to give up, thinking that questing will be like that all the way to 80.

Dropt it as a suggestion in-game, because I bet they didn't even consider that the drop rates on things are still stupid.  I had the same problem running the yeti fur quest in Feralas, when I was trying for Exalted in all the home factions.  I killed every damn yeti in the area and then was forced to wait for respawns because I didn't have the item yet.    There's also a few other old-world quests that say "Kill 10 of X" but only a maximum of 5 spawn at any one time.  Killer.  :awesome_for_real:

I am fairly sure that the (much) faster leveling you get 20 to 70 now is their solution for the bad drop rates, etc.; rather than spend a lot of time fixing each and every 'get X whatever' quest they just give you the ability to skip quests that suck without much cost. Unless you're going for Loremaster, but they probably prefer a little adversity on the way to that shiny carrot!

That's fine for those of us who are leveling alts, but there actually are still new players trying out the game who may not know that you can even drop a quest without any penalty?

I'd like to see my 10day old escalated ticket answered. The GM was quick to respond 2-3hours and forward up where it has sat forever it seems.

A new player probably doesn't know better, or is so happy to not be playing WAR that they will overlook it!

Seriously though, I don't see any signs of them having retention problems; they're opening new servers STILL 4 years later. I certainly wouldn't complain if they did a pass on all those old quests and fixed them, but I will be surprised if they do anytime soon.

These have already been mentioned but worth repeating:

- dual spec... duh

- scalable or solo dungeons... sometimes you just want to experience an instance with only a couple buddies. This would be a huge undertaking but a start would be solo dungeons, where depending on your class, the spawns and bosses are tuned. Each pull would feel as challenging as 10 man pulls but be within your ability to to beat without getting all tricky with consumables and kiting. These would be the same dungeons as the top level heroics, 10 and 25 mans but with a different cast of characters or part of the story line. This could fit well in caverns of time maybe? EDIT: the questing and phasing in WotLK was very very fun and made zones feel like an instance full of epic events and even large boss like mobs that could be solo'd.

- anything that would give me reason to go back to old world zones other than capital cities... repopulating the old world is something that is needed. When you reroll or are new to wow these days you will never get the same impact and feeling of a living world that we all did pre- bc

- All dungeons are capable of spawning friendly NPC's that run the dungeon, which can be subbed in/out for players.

There is absolutely no way you can make solo dungeons and have them be remotely balanced or worthwhile. There is such huge disparity in classes abilities to solo content that this would be impossible to make work equally for all players.

Really? Then what was I doing soloing 1-79?

Yep, just make the shit easy.  Problem solved. Not hard to balance easy.  Anyone can do easy.

Well that wouldn't be any fun. i guess i'm saying it's not impossible. Extremely time consuming and hard to pull off? sure but not impossible. Think about a dungeon where if you zone in as a rogue everything has been tuned where your sneaking around certain rooms then puzzle like encounters where you have to time and sequence your stuns and take down the mobs in a puzzle like order. Then if you were a preist and you zoned in, there might be a npc you would have to escort and heal through some combat, maybe some whack a mole type encounters and the boss is not something you have to damage but a room full of npc's you have to heal and dispell and protect. yadda yadda.

I'm just brainstorming here, he asked for a wish list. I guess I just want to see something new within the available mechanics. I don't think it's out of the question to design mobs and encounters to populate a dungeon with that provide a challenge for each class they were designed for.

Easy for who? Easy for a holy priest gives you something a hunter or druid can solo while afk. Also, easy stuff is rarely fun in any enduring way.


Quests, which provide an extensive (and often superior) supply of solo content.

For a dramatic demonstration of this, I would encourage everyone take a troll or orc warrior to level 10 without twinking.  There is a certain infamous quest at about level 6 that breaks peoples souls.  You are asked to kill 10(Or is it 8?) trolls...only they self heal at low health, your damage is absolute shit, and you don't get an interrupt for some time yet.

Now roll up a shaman.  The quest is mildly annoying, but totally doable because you have a freaking interrupt.

The point is, if you can make quests soloable and rewarding, you can do the same thing with a dungeon. There's not some magical difference in how you put together content just because you had to zone in to get to it.

I could see that more one-off solo content in the form of storyline quests, such as the benediction/anathema quest chain would be cool. However I cannot see how you would make worthwhile, challenging and entertaining solo instance content that is balanced for all classes. But then this is a wishlist, not a "how should blizzard use their resources list" so ymmv.

The quests you use to level up aren't hard by any stretch of the imagination.

I suspect phasing is going to be the way you'll get your "solo dungeons."


EDIT: Ah, I remember that echo islands quest with the healy trolls. It sucked nut as a hunter too, although now it might not be so bad since you could take a step back and shoot now, unlike when I did it a million years ago.

The sad part is, warriors seem to be a lot easier to level now.


...God was that ever a fucking retarded choice for a first character. :uhrr:

and you people laff at me when I say it in a much more convoluted way.

Mmmmmm, phasing... /drool

Pfft, it was fine! Kids these days have it too easy.  :geezer:

Yeah, don't mention you had a paladin leveling partner or anything.  :oh_i_see:

You quit because you had to run a dungeon? A fairly easy dungeon that can be done in level 80 blues and greens? And cause your to lazy to pug a Nax run?

I dont think WoW is for you.

According to some people that qualifies as soloing these days.

Ah, but we're talking about BACK IN THE DAY, when warrior + paladin = world domination!

Seriously, we could not die, it was pretty cool.  :heart:

Didn't see this mentioned anywhere, but Blizzard has released some more detailed info (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/dualspec.html) on dual spec, which will be in patch 3.10.

You mean like here (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=16069.msg593131#msg593131)?

For the most part about the same size as wow dungeons (maybe more named mobs) just fast respawn rates to account for no instancing.  Personally I still would prefer the majority of content not being instanced.

/shout Camp check.  :awesome_for_real:

Logically, EQ dungeons of the old days seem ass-headed to me.

So why the hell do I miss sitting around in Guk or Sebilis not moving from my camp spot for five hours?

Nostalgia.

I would have gone with "soul crushing loneliness".

Take any of the cave areas of WoW, add in random-spawning "named" mobs (some with random spawn points) and you've got it.

Oh, also add-in an aggro mechanic that meant when one mob with an aggro table passed another mob AT ALL, it would share the aggro table.  Rubber banding back to start after a reset point? No, no my friend it and all it's buddies will chase you to a zone-line then wait there for a bit before wandering back.   If, upon wandering back, they found another mob in combat, they'd all jump in.  If they'd passed another mob in combat - even if that mob was now dead -  they still had that mobs aggro table.  So YOU and your group were about to have a few uninvited guests.

Ahhh, trains.

I DO miss trains.  They make a hell of a lot more sense for mob behavior than WoW's ridiculous mobs with invisible leashes chained to their spots.  Chase you until you leave their domain (zone) and if they see any of their pals in trouble (or just more intruders) they'll go after them, too!

I kind of miss them too (although my experience with them was from DAOC not EQ).  Then I start to think about the mind-numbing boring grind that was Spindellhalla and realize that trains were the only thing that kept me alert.

Hey I really like this idea...make them uber expensive and non rezzable. Adds a money sink and functionality for the solo player. i never played guild wars but I believe that game has henchmen that work like that.

 :uhrr:

No, that is emphatically what you do not want to do.  What you do want to do is allow people to group without having to worry about filling particular slots, or raid without being forced to actually fill up the raid entirely, so that people unable to do either can still do fun things.  The number of times I've seen three DPS or more in LFG and no tank or healer is astounding, it needs to be fixed.

Or, you know, break up the holy trinity of Tank / Heal / DPS.

There's a quest in the Grizzly hills where you've to maim a giant bear, group 3. Right in front of the cave there's a furbolg that can tank, dps, or heal. The fact that it could heal made my DK able to "solo" that thing. Was quite fun, allowed me to give the finger to the rest of the group, which was obviously taking  it's sweet time to get there.
Blizzard is already toying with the idea, now they just need to go all the way.

There's a reason I like playing a Druid...

Exactly.  This mechanic we could use more of.  My druid was very thankful that I could solo it without issue.  My mage will likely end up being thankful as well.

I don't know what most of these encounters are, but they seem to have turned many people to the dark side of the grind. (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15210163605&sid=1)

(turns into a bit of a slapfight around page 4)