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And now, for your viewing displeasure, I give you Dragonball: Evolution (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64fZMN2Qu0w). The only movie almost guaranteed to make the Spirit look REALLY damn good in comparison.

Wonder if the movie will end as a cliffhanger.

Is it 600 hours long?

Is 300 hours of it powering up (screaming)?

One thing I will never understand about the movie business is why people pay for properties then make movies that are in no way related.

Key word is "business".

Oh wow.  This looks so bad I think I'm going to drop some caps and see this day one.

Wtf you guys talking about? This looks kickass!  :grin:

James Marsters is gonna be cool, I bet.

I don't like dbz(did like dragonball) but i can at least understand the appeal. It's crazy super-hero fighters fighting crazy super-villain monsters and all the special effects, reidiculous powering up and japanese cliches that entails.

Even if this movie was nothing like the anime in every other way it still would have succeeded if it was crazy over the top. As it is though this seems anything but a terribly mundane kung-fu flick with bad special effects and set in the real world...wtf? 

This movie could have been an hour and a half goku/piccalo crazy over the top fight and made a ton of money if they just appealed to what dragonball fans want.

Those effects don't look bad to me. There's one scene in that trailer where it looks like Piccolo laid waste to some landmass too, so I don't think it's merely kung-fu with effects going on.

That said, I don't want to sound too enthused. Speed Racer looked cool too, but apparently, that didn't pan out (still haven't seen it myself though).

[edit] As for the "real world", do you mean you didn't know a live action movie was coming? Or are you commenting on it taking place on earth? Because most of it does take place on Earth in the cartoon.

Yes but the earth in the anime is a sort of alternate reality fantastical place. This seems well...like they shot it in vancouver.  The effects don't look horrible but it doesn't look like it's gonna go over the top which is what people are going to want/expect. what makes dragonball popular is the "oh dude you gotta check this shit out it's crazy" reaction. This is going to be an ok forgetteble live action when if marketed and made well could have tapped into a very large fan base.

Goddamnit, why the fuck is Chow Yun Fat relegated to this shit?

No, but I'll wager it's over nine thousand seconds.

I can't believe it took until post 12.

I'm ashamed to say that some parts of that movie looked "alright." The rest though... ugh.

Bulma should have blue hair.

It can't be worse then the Spirit. 

I'll see it because of Chow Yun Fat.  Plus I don't know enough about Dragonball to even worry about them being faithful to the source material.

Yeah I couldn't either, which is why I did it.
She should have a bigger chest too, and CYF should be lecherously trying to sneak a peek up her skirt or down her blouse whenever he can.. but that won't be in either.  As if these were major reasons not to watch.  :why_so_serious:

They got a super cute girl to play her though (Emmy Rossum). Although.. she looks younger here than she already does.

<ob>Are they still on Namek?</ob>

The fighting looked awful, video didn't seem choppy but the action seemed fucking horribly choreographed.

I'd pay to see Kamehameha. That's it. The rest would just ruin that moment.

Fucking Hollywood.

The Kamehameha in the trailer seemed like ass.

Also, white guy who'd be better cast in Twilight playing a character with a Japanese name? Yeah.  :uhrr:

Wow i just saw the trailer for this and it looks so bad it just might be funny enough to watch.


Aren't the huge round eyes and spiky hair meant to make them look american though? Goku doesn't look japanese, the only guy who looks japanese in the cartoon is being played by chow yun fat.  Hes not even from this planet actually.

Not necessarily. Many Japanese do have big round (rather, almond) eyes, compared to other Asians.

(http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss244/straykat627/Misc/104red_l.jpg)(http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss244/straykat627/Misc/e17c.jpg)


In other ways, some Japanese look mixed with Caucasian, especially those who trace more roots to the Jomon Japanese, but they've been there forever. They are, more or less, native.

(http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss244/straykat627/Misc/abe_hiroshi.jpg)(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/kinnchii/mine_erika.jpg)(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/kinnchii/hirai-1.jpg)

tl;dr : Asians don't all look the same. :wink:

I SEE ABE HIROSHI.

Fucking badass hair on him too  :awesome_for_real:

He's done some great stuff lately. Just thought I'd point that out.

I'm gonna have to acquire what is very obviously the live action version of the manga Aoi Tori which he seems to be headlining. But he also did a great slice of life movie recently called Aruitemo Aruitemo (Still Walking). In America I think it somehow got turned into Even if You Walk and Walk.

I didn't say asians look the same i said anime characters are meant to look americanised.

I know you didn't say that. I'm just accusing you of it.  :why_so_serious: No really, I just think you're running under the assumption that Japanese = Asian and Asian = squinty eyed people or something. Not trying to make a big deal or anything, just pointing out that just in case you think that, then it's not really the case. Many Japanese have big eyes.

On the aesthetic end of things, I just think it's exagerrated maybe because it represents youthfulness or excitement. If you look at old people in Anime, they're always squinty.

(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc65/kl4shik4ri3/CLANNADep07042.jpg)

Characters that are mostly stern never have the big eyes.

(http://www.awn.com/mag/issue5.09/5.09images/patten01.gif)


Anyways, whatever. I think for the most part, Japanese women actually resemble the artwork more than anyone from America.

(http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss244/straykat627/Misc/2453759177_4dedb3c8e4.jpg)(http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss244/straykat627/Misc/6a00c2252338bc549d00e398af55ba0003-.jpg)
(http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss244/straykat627/Misc/chiaki2.jpg)

That nose is godawful.

You're crazy.


Then again, an old girlfriend of mine had a broken nose. I've always gravitated towards a little difference there. Hell, my nose isn't all that flattering either.  :grin:

People with an unflattering nose have lower standards of noses. He's not crazy, she's just in dire need of a nose job. Just because you don't think so doesn't distort reality.

As for Abe, yes, I would pay real money to age as well as he is.

I'm seeing some half-decent special effects with god-awful acting; and what in the name of Nyx was up with those fight scenes? I'm not sure I've seen a movie preview that bad in a long time.

I'm going to have to see it just for how bad it is going to be.  :awesome_for_real:

I don't see the problem with the nose personally, it looks like it fits her face well.

Well this will be boring, but it's just a Dragonball thread, so as an aside.. Most Asians age well, until they get 60 or 70, and then they age 400 years.  :grin: It's the lack of epiphanic folds (no fold in the eyelid), and just general fat/soft tissue in the face (which in turn, means less signs of wrinkling, which would show up on thinner skin). As for money, I think botox follows the principle of injecting a fatty look to one's face, but that seems to just lead to disastrous results. On the flipside, without the fold, the eyelid of a typical Asian person sags over as they get older, and that's where they get the "beady" looking eyes.. which, despite less wrinkling, makes them look a bit ancient.

If you're mixed Asian, you have the folded eyelids of a Caucasian, and less wrinkling of an Asian. Jennifer Tilly and Keanu Reeves are roughly Abe's age, but look younger than he does (Jennifer Tilly is like 5 yrs older actually.. at 50 :-o). [edit] Phoebe Cates is older than Abe too. Still beautiful. Kevin Kline is a lucky bastard. Whoever is shagging Tilly is a lucky bastard too.

(http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Profiles/20061007/244.cates.phoebe.100606.jpg)(http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss244/straykat627/Misc/jennifer_tilly.jpg)

On an anime note, I read that Keanu is going to do a live action Bebop adaptation.

While I'm sure the casting guy thought he'd convey the right level of emotional detachment for Spike I feel I need to be one of the first to say that cool and withdraw |= wooden stoner.

Yeah Spike's detached in a different way than Keanu.

Although, and I'm not ashamed to say it, but Keanu never fucks anything up as far as I'm concerned. He's so perfectly wooden that he simply does not get in the way. Neither here or there. And when the writing is smart-assy, his wooden delivery comes off as clever cynicism.

Wow. That video looked shittastic.

And I have fond memories of Dragonball too.

I mean, the show wasn't that great, but while watching it this cute MP started hitting on me and then we went back to his room to fuck.

Oh, well. Looks like it needs more skin. And while I'm not expecting superior acting quality from a Dball movie, it seemed to be...lacking passion.

Also.....BALLS. hehe

(i'm drunk)

I am actually OK with that.

He'd make a perfect Ein.

Haha that's witty. Wait. No.

You've gotta admit, physically, there aren't many actors who resemble him as well (not in the western hemisphere at least).

(http://www.cartoonleap.com/wp-content/uploads/keanu_spiegel.jpg)


Ein, not so much.

(http://www.geocities.com/queeniemp3/ein12.jpg)

If Christian Bale can pull off an acceptable Batman, Keanu can pull off an acceptable Spike.

Every time Christian Bale opened his mouth and tried to make a deep voice, he failed miserably. You're saying that Keanu will be great in the role as long as he doesn't deliver a single line, then?

I don't think he failed miserably. Maybe a couple of times it sounded funny, but you're a being a bit dramatic.

This.

Spike never spoke that much anyway and Keanu looks the part.

If he plays it halfway between Constantine and Klattu, he'll be fine.

It's actually pretty funny just how many movies Keanu has made and how different most of them are from each other, and how many of them are generally considered at least decent, even while he himself is generally looked down on as an actor. I don't think there's anyone else like that.

I respect Keanu's career. People give him shit but I like it when he's in a movie.

Stray and Lorekeep:

I put him and Mark Wahlberg in the same category: Worthy of popcorn.

I could watch almost any of either of their movies any (and every) day of the week.

I think they're almost opposites actually. Keanu's a not so good actor who picks decent scripts, especially of the popcorn variety. The Matrix alone puts him somewhere else. In my mind at least, there's only like 2 or 3 sci-fi movies as good as it. The rest of his action stuff is entertaining, even Point Break. While Wahlberg is a good actor who doesn't always know a good script - and I've yet to like his popcorn movies. I can barely make it through them. He shines in stuff like Boogie Nights, Departed, or Basketball Diaries, and I wouldn't be surprised if won a bunch of awards one day.

As an aside....Phoebe runs a boutique in Manhattan. First time my wife and I walked in, while living in NY, and I realized who it was, then thought of her in the fantasy scene, then stopped breathing...my wife thought it was "cute." 

Shitty anime becomes shitty movie. Doomed from the word go.

I can understand not liking it, believe me, but it's not really a shitty anime. Doomed is hardly the word. It's popular across the world, and generates more cash than most things, from Japan or otherwise. Since you like paying attention to numbers a lot, it's a multi billion dollar franchise. The entire lineup of "Shonen Jump" stuff makes an assload of money (Naruto, Bleach, Yu-Gi-Oh, Dragonball, One Piece, Death Note, etc), and Dragonball is just one thing that's made something like $4 billion. Things like Star Wars, Disney, and Pokemon top it, but not much else.

Stray, don't be silly.

Obvious troll is obvious. I abjure thee and all thy works, demon.

Ah. Sometimes it's hard to tell. Because I can understand how 500 episodes of bigheaded kids fighting in deserted fields for hours upon hours can be grating... but they do have their charm in certain doses. With children, the tolerance level is even higher. Therefore, the shows are not doomed.

I may have to rip my own head off just so I don't have to see the horror that this will be. I know DBZ gets a lot of bad rep and it is cheesy but this....This is going to make the Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat movies look like Oscar material. It won't even be bad in a good way. Hell, I think I'd even want to watch the Bloodrayne movies before this. This should have been done by whoever did 'Fung Wan' (Stormriders). That was about as close to DBZ as I've ever seen anything get effects and battle-wise.

I must be one of the few people in the world who's never seen Dragonball (in any incarnation) nor do I particularly want to.  There's a thread about this on the IGN Anime General Board with a link for a review from ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/dragonball-evolution).

An excerpt:

I was actually considering see the movie for camp value until I read the review.  Now I guess I'll just wait until it hits cable, if then.

It's terrible. There's just no redeeming it.

here lemme spoil it for you to save your cash.

Was anyone else incredibly disturbed to learn that James Marsters plays Piccolo?   :ye_gods:

Along with a shit movie comes a shit shit shit shit game tie-in:
http://www.dragonballevolutiongame.com/

I would just like to add on top of this, having now seen most of the movie while at work:

HOLY FUCKING TERRIBLE ACTING.   I mean, what the hell.  I was expecting this to be bad, but Jesus Christ, they probably could have trained a chimp on coke to deliver its lines better then that kid they chose to play Goku.   I had to resist the urge to to jam my fists into my skull through my ear-canals during the entire sequence where Goku is explaining his grandfather's dying remarks to Roshi.  The delivery was just that bad......