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Title: My Eve account was hacked.
Post by: Bstaz on January 10, 2009, 09:52:27 AM

I had been not been on in about 6 months but someone used a stolen credit card to activate the account and took all the stuff I had.  I just post there here as I was in the Crop when I stopped playing. I don't think I had access to much, or if I was still in the corp.

Make sure you kick Statis as of this time. Though the account as been deactivated.


Title: Re: My Eve account was hacked.
Post by: Viin on January 10, 2009, 02:33:22 PM
That sucks, thanks for letting us know. Are you coming back? :)


Title: Re: My Eve account was hacked.
Post by: Bstaz on January 14, 2009, 10:28:07 PM

I'd like to, the game is fun, crazy depth.  The Corp is top notch, welcomed with open arms but I just don't have the time to put into the game that I would like to have. Maybe when I retire in 30 more years, I just need to sub for a month again and set a long skill train.  -- cheers


Title: Re: My Eve account was hacked.
Post by: Merusk on January 15, 2009, 06:41:42 AM
There's a rash of that going around.  Mine was hacked previously, too, and CCP is still "investigating" it.  Tho they at least froze it so the fucker who stole it can't play anymore  :drill:


Title: Re: My Eve account was hacked.
Post by: Thrawn on January 15, 2009, 07:24:50 AM
Can apps that pull your API key pull your login name?  Threads like these always get me worried.

Good luck to you both.


Title: Re: My Eve account was hacked.
Post by: Jayce on January 15, 2009, 09:24:21 AM
Can apps that pull your API key pull your login name?  Threads like these always get me worried.

Good luck to you both.

No, I think they specifically can't.  Definitely not the limited use key.  I don't know about the full API key.

edited to add: To those who were hacked, any idea how it could have happened?  Theories?


Title: Re: My Eve account was hacked.
Post by: slog on January 15, 2009, 09:33:35 AM
I always wonder if people who get hacked use the same password on forums that they do in game.


Title: Re: My Eve account was hacked.
Post by: Merusk on January 15, 2009, 10:12:23 AM
I always wonder if people who get hacked use the same password on forums that they do in game.

I don't, but for a short while I WAS using the same forum name as game acct name. One day I woke-up, said, "der" and stopped doing it.  Easy enough to brute force my old EQ and EVE accounts that way.

No, what probably got me was I was using an old, old pre-api key char planner by Future Falcon.  It would login and get your .xml info and  shit. There was a patch on his old site that had updated skill sets when I came back to EVE (after they added in all the missile sub skills.)  It was updating my sills fine, but I'll wager it was hacked patch that was  bouncing my info elsewhere.   


Title: Re: My Eve account was hacked.
Post by: Goumindong on January 15, 2009, 05:51:29 PM
Yea, if you get anything eve related from an unknown site you're bound to get hacked. At the very least they can stick a keylogger in it and data mine your keystrokes.


Title: Re: My Eve account was hacked.
Post by: Bstaz on January 15, 2009, 09:11:01 PM


I have unique passwords everywhere I go, (my password here is completely unique to all my other passwords) and my eve password was not a even dictionary word.  I was shocked they hacked it.  I did have an even account name that matched a forum I was using.  I have a feeling they have a way around the password and the account name was enough.   I did buy ISK once, but it was via the EVE approved method, not sure if that lead to any of this.. I bought the ISK ~ 6 months ago.  They went through a lot of trouble to steal what little ISK I had.   EVE GM tells me they used a stolen credit card to activate my account,  login and take the cash.  Using a stolen card is pretty serious and beyond the typical hacking an active account.


Title: Re: My Eve account was hacked.
Post by: Krakrok on January 15, 2009, 11:25:07 PM
Some news article quoted it costing $2.40 for a credit card number.


Title: Re: My Eve account was hacked.
Post by: apocrypha on January 15, 2009, 11:36:31 PM
Using a stolen card is pretty serious and beyond the typical hacking an active account.
Pretty standard gold-farming outfit practice I suspect. Or ISK-farming in this case.


Title: Re: My Eve account was hacked.
Post by: Murgos on January 16, 2009, 08:27:51 AM
They went through a lot of trouble to steal what little ISK I had.   EVE GM tells me they used a stolen credit card to activate my account,  login and take the cash.  Using a stolen card is pretty serious and beyond the typical hacking an active account.

This story is an interesting twist to gold selling that I hadn't thought of.  'Abandoned' accounts must have large amounts of resources in them so it could be a high reward process to gain access to them in bulk and strip them clean.  At the same time if the gold seller is using fraudulent credit cards to gain access to those accounts the MMO company is making a profit on the gold selling activities.  I would imagine that a large amount of this kind of thing would go unnoticed, most of the victims would never even know it happened.


Title: Re: My Eve account was hacked.
Post by: Jayce on January 16, 2009, 09:25:26 AM
At the same time if the gold seller is using fraudulent credit cards to gain access to those accounts the MMO company is making a profit on the gold selling activities. 

I think it's doubtful that the MMO company is making any profit.  Most of the time the charges would be contested and dropped.  It's just a cost of doing business with credit cards but without verifying presence of the card, signatures, etc.


Title: Re: My Eve account was hacked.
Post by: Merusk on January 16, 2009, 09:38:04 AM
At the same time if the gold seller is using fraudulent credit cards to gain access to those accounts the MMO company is making a profit on the gold selling activities. 

I think it's doubtful that the MMO company is making any profit.  Most of the time the charges would be contested and dropped.  It's just a cost of doing business with credit cards but without verifying presence of the card, signatures, etc.

Mark Jacobs and Blizzard have both cited this as to why they are so hardcore against gold farmers.  There is a VERY large cost that's being incurred on MMO companies due to fraudulent credit cards being used.  Remember, for he "privilege" of using a credit card, the retailer has to pay the company the same way you have to for using a foreign ATM.  Each fraudulent CC transaction costs them not only the monthly fee, but a real loss in money they had to pay the cc company.

It's even worse for debit cards, where the fees to the retailer are (or were last I'd heard) typically 2-3x greater per transaction.


Title: Re: My Eve account was hacked.
Post by: ClydeJr on January 19, 2009, 09:10:19 AM
'Abandoned' accounts must have large amounts of resources in them so it could be a high reward process to gain access to them in bulk and strip them clean.
I just started up with the "please come back here's 5 days free promotion" and I decided to see how much I would get if I sold all my stockpiled raw materials (trit, pyr, etc) to my corp at their buy-back prices. I've got about 550 mill in just raw materials. Then there's my salvage stockpile, a huge container full of spare modules, plus various ships. I imagine it would be close to a billion isk if someone would try to liquidate it.