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Title: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: schild on January 03, 2009, 08:20:43 AM
So, New Years Day, I'd planned on posting an article early in the morning. First, the clock got synced out on f13. And then some weird shit happened. Turned out a guy outside of our apartment was beating up his mom. No, I'm not kidding. One of my roommates heard it from his room and went outside to calm this guy down. Apparently he felt my roommate was "fronting." So the guy - from now on, Ratfucker - went up to my roommate and punched him in the face. Meanwhile, my roommate had yelled inside for me to call 911 as the guy had a bat and was going after his own mother. Well, between me running in to grab a phone and the guy punching my roommate in the face, the mother somehow got the bat out of Ratfucker's hand. She then proceeded to beat the ever loving shit out of Ratfucker after he punched my roomie. We're talking hits you could hear from inside the apartment. I got outside with the phone as he was running away - this guy looked like a fucking piñata. Well, obviously he didn't make it far and came back just as the cops were getting here.

After we all talked to the police, I found out Ratfucker had been living in the apartment without his name on the lease and had a history of arrests and felonies. Needless to say, I'm doing everything I can to get his whole family the fuck out of here. Yea, I know, domestic violence is everywhere. Fine. But it's sure as fuck not going to be next door to me.

In light of this event, I decided not to post my original article. Which, at its core, was a long diatribe against gaming journalism and journalism in general. If you're wondering what broke the camel's back, you can look to the WoW Recruitment thread in MMOG discussion - but honestly, this has been a long time coming. In short, I'm done writing about games. I'll still be here, doing everything else, but I'm done with gaming journalism for good. I'll be keeping my contacts for all the other writers and contributors should they want interviews, reviewables, etc. and I'll be getting another mod or two over the next few months as we've done nothing but grow since 2004. I don't regret my time writing about games but frankly, I'm tired of the good fight. I'm also tired of the following four situations that seem to continue popping up whether I like it or not:

  • Requests to cover games that my audience has no interest in. I don’t know how the hell I got on the Hidden City Games email list, but no, I do not want to cover Bella Sara, damnit.
  • Conduct interviews before the company has given me a chance to play their New, Exciting Game™. This one is particularly annoying. Everyone knows where pimps need to go to hype their shit, what makes you think I’m interested in it? I can count on both hands how many previews I’ve done in the last half-decade, and frankly, even though I was hyped for those games and asked to do the previews myself, it still left me with a bad taste in my mouth.
  • Interview developer x at company y who just lost his job/was let go when the company closed/was victim to management stupidity. Hey, shit happens. I get it. But unless you’re going to tell me that dragons are real, Jesus is magic, and you kept your QA gimp in a cage, there’s really nothing of interest there. Companies open and close every day and it’s typically because the game was crap and/or the management was terrible. The story has been told thousands of times, and while it’s interesting once in a blue moon, you’re never going to top Sigil. I gave up on that a long time ago and so should you.
  • Marketing. Three Words: Not My Job. I'm sorry, but if I wanted to do marketing, I'd get a job in marketing. The gaming industry and the gaming press should be ashamed of the symbiotic relationship they've created. Inexcusable. Now, is there anything wrong with marketing in general? Not at all, in fact, it's damned brilliant what they've done, but outside of marketing - who is doing their job maybe a bit too well - it's a mess.

OK. Fine. you caught me. The mom/son beatdown outside the apartment had nothing to do with this decision, but I needed to put the story on the internet somewhere.

So what have I been doing? Well, I haven't been keeping up with gaming news for a few weeks now. I'm reading and posting in the same forums I've always read. I fully intend to see f13 through until the sun burns out. But for me, now, it's a community with some people that write substantial things that deserve more than a forum post every now and again.

And what am I going to be doing? Well, I've been working on a game with Sauced for a while now. It's a flash game and if it turns out how we're hoping, we think it'll be pretty fucking cool. We have plans further than that, but I think that's enough of a mention. Further details will arrive at Network of Ninja (http://www.networkofninja.com) and I'll probably make a thread for us to update in the game dev forum. I'm also probably going to be blogging at NoN about the curiosities of making a game in flash. I imagine Sauced will be blogging a bit as well. We've been working on it for nearly three months now and it's coming along. Also, I'm working on finishing (starting? haha) a book I've been wanting to write for a while. I've been working on that very sporadically for nearly a year. After that? Who knows, maybe I'll make a web game. I'm not sure yet.

I do know this though: For the first time in five years, I find myself interested in the design side of gaming a lot more and I suppose a major part of that is I found criticizing games on the internet to be a fruitless task. Almost as fruitless as getting riled up about politics and not doing anything about it. Maybe my gig at Gameriot/Giant Realm taught me that. I don't care where it came from, but it sure is nice. However, I don't regret my time mingling and wandering around in the god-forsaken wasteland that is gaming journalism. Thanks for sticking with me despite the fact I'm 31 flavors of crazy.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in this thread. I'll answer the first four though since it's rabidly obvious most people don't Read Every Word:

1. Yes, we have and will continue to have a frontpage.
2. No, f13 is not going anywhere, I'm just not writing anymore. Other people will be.
3. As soon as we have stuff to show from the game, we'll show it and as soon as we're comfortable talking about it, we'll talk about it.
4. This is in gen disc and not mmog or PC gaming because I'd rather the regulars here read it than the drive-by fanboy of the week.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Sir T on January 03, 2009, 08:30:03 AM
Ok I can understand your reasons for it and applaud your decision. you ggrew developed and know when its time to move on.

One thing though. you mentioned you are interested in the design side of gaming and you mixed in a like swipe at marketing. That makes me wonder. do you see gaming as it is now as an unsustainable medium, or in your opinion if the present trends are continued will it go into a roleplaying style decline?

I'd still like to read your article on gaming journalism as well btw.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: schild on January 03, 2009, 08:32:54 AM
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I'd still like to read your article on gaming journalism as well btw.

Not gonna happen. It was long, insulting, and unnecessary. They know it's fucked and they're riding a gravy train. It's the easiest and most unnecessary job in media.

Edit: Let me elaborate on this. Gaming journalism is a mix of two things: Linking and marketing. It doesn't matter who gets an exclusive or where a story breaks as it hits every single blog and site on the net within 48 hours. It's an awesome phenomenon that's only necessary because of the internet. The cycle works, it's just an insulting mess and I'm not going to be a part of it anymore. Also, gaming journalists, FOR THE MOST PART, are nerds without balls that are afraid to call things how they see it. Editors and ad folks, for the most part are worse. Once again, I applaud the industry and marketing in particular for setting things up this way. It's a staggering victory in a battle the critics would have (and should have) won if they weren't a bunch of nerds who just wanted free games.

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do you see gaming as it is now as an unsustainable medium, or in your opinion if the present trends are continued will it go into a roleplaying style decline?

Games are completely sustainable - but companies and developers need to start understanding what niches need to be filled and where their talents may or may not lie. As it stands, there are too many folks trying to do things they're either not prepared or capable of doing or simply shouldn't be doing. MMOGs in particular is a section of the industry filled with people who have lofty dreams, tons of money, and absolutely no business sense.

Edit: Clarity.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Quinton on January 03, 2009, 08:43:43 AM
Happy New Year!  I look forward to seeing whatever you're building.  Flash, ugh!  Big audience and very accessable is a win though.  Maybe it'll convince me to finally quit my job and hack on a (differently) fun project though.

Also, if you're going to develop games, build something for Android!  Exciting new platform and new market.  Paid content supported in Q1.  No need to worry about your content being rejected by those jackasses in Cupertino for arbitrary reasons.  Create something actually cool for mobile gaming instead of a shitty port of some existing title and be my hero!


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: schild on January 03, 2009, 08:48:54 AM
Paid content supported in Q1.  Create something actually cool for mobile gaming instead of a shitty port of some existing title and be my hero!

The former needs to exist before the latter will. But, we were thinking about it! And we may in the future!

Edit: Moved stuff to the android thread.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: damijin on January 03, 2009, 09:43:02 AM
Thanks for the game idea.

Our 3d star fighter prototype was not tolerated well by Flash. It's just not come far enough to handle the polygons yet. Domestic Abuse Online will be a smash hit though.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Hawkbit on January 03, 2009, 11:20:52 AM
Good luck and all that. 

I hope you'll still comment on games you're playing.  BIIF has been a pretty good idea, overall.  Some people (like me) came here because we like to see people unafraid of telling how it *really* is with a launched game.  I can use Metacritic to get a base idea of what journalists/marketing are saying about games and know where it stands on the bullshit meter.  But F13 lets me know the real side of the story.  It's been good, for us poor cheapskates that can't buy every game that comes out. 

Anyways, again - good luck.  Walking through newfound doors is always exciting.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: SnakeCharmer on January 03, 2009, 12:35:51 PM
/obligatory Can I have your stuff?

Maybe you should look into MMO community building/moderation?  I hear WAR is starting something up soon.   :grin:

On a more serious note, best of luck with the new endeavors.  Also, good luck with funding (if you decide to go that route).  Be sure to spend enough on hookers and blow.

I can only imagine that asking the same question (why did it fail?) to the same people and getting the same answer (it was somebody else's fault) is only so much fun for so long.  Eventually it probably just becomes a cut and paste job with different company names. 


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: schild on January 03, 2009, 12:39:50 PM
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Eventually it probably just becomes a cut and paste job with different company names. 

Gaming journalism has been a cut and paste job since the rise of blogs. Unfortunately people don't seem to be able to do that correctly.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Paelos on January 03, 2009, 01:01:24 PM
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Eventually it probably just becomes a cut and paste job with different company names. 

Gaming journalism has been a cut and paste job since the rise of blogs. Unfortunately people don't seem to be able to do that correctly.

So, what exactly is your ideal of how gaming journalism should operate, in detail? I see a lot of what you don't like about it, but what is the utopian version of that particular segment?


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: schild on January 03, 2009, 01:03:22 PM
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Eventually it probably just becomes a cut and paste job with different company names. 

Gaming journalism has been a cut and paste job since the rise of blogs. Unfortunately people don't seem to be able to do that correctly.

So, what exactly is your ideal of how gaming journalism should operate, in detail? I see a lot of what you don't like about it, but what is the utopian version of that particular segment?
Companies look for advertising outside of the gaming sector that appeals to teenagers and young adults and buys their own copies of games to review and acts as an independent entity unattached and companies have to be lucky to get interviews rather than magazines and sites begging for them. Also, exclusive reveals should be a case of catering to an audience, not a bidding war between magazines.

Also, shit gets called shit. And the good stuff stands out. Also, a universal rating system, if there should even be one. Rating a game is such a nebulous bullshit practice in masturbation anyway.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Venkman on January 03, 2009, 01:29:56 PM
There is a universal rating system  :awesome_for_real:

The average gamer has proven they don't want hugely in-depth analysis of the game. They want a score that substantiates their own opinion of something they bought by the time they got the article anyway.

One problem is the lack of a language of critique. The other problem is creating such a language alienates the market masses. This is the separation between art and business unfortunately, the reviewers mostly cater to where the dollars come from, and the publishers are by and large not looking to create art haus faire when they're peddling their ware around for reviews.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: schild on January 03, 2009, 01:41:26 PM
There is a universal rating system  :awesome_for_real:

The average gamer has proven they don't want hugely in-depth analysis of the game. They want a score that substantiates their own opinion of something they bought by the time they got the article anyway.

One problem is the lack of a language of critique. The other problem is creating such a language alienates the market masses. This is the separation between art and business unfortunately, the reviewers mostly cater to where the dollars come from, and the publishers are by and large not looking to create art haus faire when they're peddling their ware around for reviews.

This is part of the reason I stopped. There isn't a language for critique and on top of that, everyone's just fine and dandy with how the system is working. Though, Moore got pissed FIFA 09 wasn't in the top 50 or whatever at Eurogamer. Eventually, things will get better. But I don't want to sit around 50 years waiting for them to get better.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: stray on January 03, 2009, 02:05:14 PM
Lol, "frontin'".. Sadly, I used to say shit like that.


Welcome to Texas.  :awesome_for_real:


Really though, that is untypical Austinite behavior. Probably from Houston or San Antonio.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: SnakeCharmer on January 03, 2009, 02:14:14 PM
Curious though...Is tossing up your hands and saying 'Fuck it!' and being coffee house angsty it about really the answer?

The way I see it, you're one of the better writers/journalist(?) out there (if a bit cliche-ish at times, but that's fine) and people aren't really going to get the 'company line', so to speak.  There's something to be said for that.

However, I suppose being an indie doesn't pay the bills.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: photek on January 03, 2009, 02:28:54 PM
Good post. Nice to see you getting stuff done, time to pull my finger out of my ass and start doing something too soon. Sitting around waiting for motivational triggers is kinda beating a dead horse it seems.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Xuri on January 03, 2009, 02:38:05 PM
What? You're going to stop writing about games and start (or continue, on a larger scale) to design them instead? Sellout! :grin:


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: schild on January 03, 2009, 03:16:43 PM
Curious though...Is tossing up your hands and saying 'Fuck it!' and being coffee house angsty it about really the answer?

I don't think a single thread in Gen disc counts as doing as such. But hey, if it came across as coffee house angsty, at least it came across at all.

And yes, saying "fuck it!" is the answer. This sector of gaming is largely a mess, so it's a proper response.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Raph on January 03, 2009, 03:25:34 PM
So, you need a red name now. ;)


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: FatuousTwat on January 03, 2009, 04:06:45 PM
Just watch! Now everything will get better, then when you want to get back in, they wont want you!

At least that's what I would think, and then procrastinate and not leave.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: schild on January 03, 2009, 04:11:08 PM
So, you need a red name now. ;)

I'm a fan of the sky blue.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Signe on January 03, 2009, 07:58:26 PM
Does this mean you'll stop being so cranky? 

You should become a sports writer.  Like that other guy everyone loves around here.  You know.  Keith Olbermann.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Falwell on January 04, 2009, 02:32:06 AM
I was actually going to write up a big line about how this is admirable in a "fuck the man" kind of way. Or how you're finally doing something that's giving you some enjoyment. Or the fact that you've kept with it for as long as you have.

Then I thought about our usual practices here at F13 and decided to bring it back down to earth....

Pedo bear if you think Schild is a big, emo, stupid-face.

 :pedobear:


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Signe on January 04, 2009, 07:28:44 AM
Schild has a lovely face.  He could be a part time model, you know, though possibly not a high class prostitute.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Soln on January 04, 2009, 10:10:02 AM
this is admirable, so all the very best.  Just please don't bet the proverbial farm, as it were.  I think we all expect 2009 to be rough one in gaming.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Sauced on January 04, 2009, 12:49:06 PM
So, you need a red name now. ;)

I'm a fan of the sky blue.

Speak for yourself!


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: schild on January 04, 2009, 12:55:33 PM
So, you need a red name now. ;)
I'm a fan of the sky blue.
Speak for yourself!
Heh.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Signe on January 04, 2009, 04:08:42 PM
Yes, give Sauced a red name.  He can be Tomato Sauced!  (http://www.sheknows.com/graphics/emoticons/tomato.gif)


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: HaemishM on January 04, 2009, 04:36:41 PM
Marketing. Three Words: Not My Job. I'm sorry, but if I wanted to do marketing, I'd get a job in marketing. The gaming industry and the gaming press should be ashamed of the symbiotic relationship they've created. Inexcusable. Now, is there anything wrong with marketing in general? Not at all, in fact, it's damned brilliant what they've done, but outside of marketing - who is doing their job maybe a bit too well - it's a mess.

Yeah, it really is. (http://web.archive.org/web/20040822230101/www.f13.net/2.php?subaction=showfull&id=1092769417&archive=&start_from=&ucat=2&)

Good luck with the design side.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: schild on January 04, 2009, 05:39:11 PM
Marketing. Three Words: Not My Job. I'm sorry, but if I wanted to do marketing, I'd get a job in marketing. The gaming industry and the gaming press should be ashamed of the symbiotic relationship they've created. Inexcusable. Now, is there anything wrong with marketing in general? Not at all, in fact, it's damned brilliant what they've done, but outside of marketing - who is doing their job maybe a bit too well - it's a mess.

Yeah, it really is. (http://web.archive.org/web/20040822230101/www.f13.net/2.php?subaction=showfull&id=1092769417&archive=&start_from=&ucat=2&)

Good luck with the design side.
While the article has an ironic title given my avatar. Still, it isn't my job.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Strazos on January 04, 2009, 06:42:19 PM
While I'll be disappointed to see you taking a step back from "journalism," I really must applaud your position in taking the high road and sticking to your principles. I can easily imagine shouting into the wind like you have, for years, has become more than tiresome.

Just keep on keeping on, and all that.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: SnakeCharmer on January 04, 2009, 07:22:40 PM

While the article has an ironic title given my avatar. Still, it isn't my job.

The games industry has a union?

/runs away screaming like a little girl


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Mrbloodworth on January 05, 2009, 07:20:25 AM
If you need any art for the game, hit me up.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Merusk on January 05, 2009, 07:28:11 AM
Jesus, go away for a few days and everyone becomes a developer.  Wtf!

Good luck and shit.  Grats on finally realizing the only way to change shit is to do it yourself. Everything is easily ignored except results.  Those aren't ignored, but are instead hand waved-away as one-time strokes of luck or the mad combination of a rabid fan base and luck.  :drill:


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Yegolev on January 05, 2009, 07:47:55 AM
I do know this though: For the first time in five years, I find myself interested in the design side of gaming a lot more.... I don't care where it came from, but it sure is nice.

Mazel tov!

If you need any art for the game, hit me up.

I need art for my game.  Although I probably mean that I need "art" for my game.  Also I need to learn to program graphics, so no hurry.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Mrbloodworth on January 05, 2009, 08:22:28 AM
I do know this though: For the first time in five years, I find myself interested in the design side of gaming a lot more.... I don't care where it came from, but it sure is nice.

Mazel tov!

If you need any art for the game, hit me up.

I need art for my game.  Although I probably mean that I need "art" for my game.  Also I need to learn to program graphics, so no hurry.

lol, OK, let me know.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Nonentity on January 05, 2009, 09:54:02 AM
Schildy!

I'm sure you'll do a bang-up job of whatever it is that gets pooped out of that crazy brain of yours. While no two people on this board have the same ideas about game theory or game design (you and me included), you certainly have a very exact idea about The Way Things Should Be. That's good, though. Strong opinions make things happen.

As far as gaming journalism is concerned, yeah, it's basically the same thing over and over. I know for a fact that I could never be a gaming critic, as most games I am able to find the silver lining in, so it's admirable that you've been able to do it with such an accurate critical eye. It's a rare exception when I can actually say that a game is just total dogshit (read: bad kmmos).


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: shiznitz on January 05, 2009, 11:35:45 AM
stuff

The dude wants a development gig like every other fansite manager. It just took him 4 years to admit it/figure it out.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Morfiend on January 05, 2009, 12:00:26 PM
That was the weakest emo rage quit ever. Get your shit together man.
 
:pedobear:



Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: schild on January 05, 2009, 12:02:45 PM
That's because it wasn't emo.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: HaemishM on January 05, 2009, 12:19:11 PM
It's only emo if he steals all the donation money to go visit his boyfriend in England.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Amp on January 05, 2009, 03:44:07 PM
Hah Hah!
Zing.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Triforcer on January 06, 2009, 12:24:33 AM
It's only emo if he steals all the donation money to go visit his boyfriend in England.

You'd think after this many years that joke would stop being funny.  Somehow, its not  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Soln on January 06, 2009, 11:28:41 AM
explain plz


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: HaemishM on January 06, 2009, 01:45:57 PM
The Story of Eldin (http://wiki.onlinegamers.org/index.php?title=Eldin)


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: sigil on January 06, 2009, 02:00:26 PM
That truly is one of the classic moments of the whole clusterfuck that is the Diaspora of Lum the Mad


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Murgos on January 06, 2009, 02:27:36 PM
explain plz

(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2977/debunkersyg6.jpg)


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: schild on January 06, 2009, 05:31:49 PM
Speaking of good things, 1up and EGM essentially just died.

Maybe the revolution WILL be televised.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Merusk on January 06, 2009, 07:27:29 PM
Ah Coke.  The reason I think everyone's hate of Bruce's "crazy" is way overblown... because I've seen crazier.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Margalis on January 06, 2009, 08:52:04 PM
Wait wait wait. Now who will interview me at GDC about a game I can't say anything about?


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Triforcer on January 07, 2009, 01:50:38 AM
The Story of Eldin (http://wiki.onlinegamers.org/index.php?title=Eldin)

God, that was epic.  Although I thought killing the site had to do with a negative DAoC post written by someone named rourke, not a Coke post.  Memories...  :heart: :heart: :heart:


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Bunk on January 07, 2009, 06:11:20 AM
I didn't realize that someone had that post wiki'd. Ah, memories...

Schild, it sounds like this decision is making you happy, so good on you. You've been pretty obviously bitter about the whole industry for some time, so it was probably past due that you got out of it.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: tazelbain on January 07, 2009, 07:37:47 AM
Wait wait wait. Now who will interview me at GDC about a game I can't say anything about?
Surely we have a bot that can do that now.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Sky on January 07, 2009, 09:44:25 AM
All is quiet on New Year's Day. Schild wants to be with you, be with you night and day.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Morfiend on January 07, 2009, 11:42:56 AM
The Story of Eldin (http://wiki.onlinegamers.org/index.php?title=Eldin)

Love the wiki part of that page.

Quote
Eldin voluntarily took over slownewsday.net, some time after Lum sold out. During his reign, Eldin showed his true colours as an asshole and didn't take care of the site very well.
He eventually plunged slownewsday.net into the ground and removed the site forever. It is "rumored" he took the donation money (approximately $3000) that was handed down to slownewsday.net as well.

*Edit*
Speaking of the history of this little disfunctional part of the interwebz, does any one have any of the post from the gnashing of teeth when wt.o changed into f13?


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Signe on January 07, 2009, 12:09:48 PM
Oh please.  No no.  Let's not do that again!  We've done it at least 9000 times!


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: schild on January 07, 2009, 12:13:36 PM
For serious.

Edit: As in I will lock this mofo if it becomes any sort of trip down memory lane. For a bunch of hardasses, a lot of you are really nostalgic. Just depressing.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: MrHat on January 07, 2009, 12:14:43 PM
haha.  Amazing how cyclical our conversations all are.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: schild on January 07, 2009, 12:16:40 PM
haha.  Amazing how cyclical our conversations all are.

Only because people don't know how to let go.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: MrHat on January 07, 2009, 12:20:27 PM
haha.  Amazing how cyclical our conversations all are.

Only because people don't know how to let go.

Always let go lightly.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Fabricated on January 07, 2009, 02:39:32 PM
Speaking of good things, 1up and EGM essentially just died.

Maybe the revolution WILL be televised.
I was wondering. Dead tree game-media has been uh, dead for quite some time.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Yegolev on January 07, 2009, 06:52:21 PM
Wait wait wait. Now who will interview me at GDC about a game I can't say anything about?

Assuming I can get there, I will.  You'll probably want to bring a change of clothes.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Margalis on January 07, 2009, 09:32:36 PM
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Assuming I can get there, I will.  You'll probably want to bring a change of clothes.

My imagination is running wild.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: squirrel on January 08, 2009, 01:26:34 AM
sigh


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: squirrel on January 08, 2009, 01:28:02 AM

Oh please.  No no.  Let's not do that again!  We've done it at least 9000 times!

I also feel old. It's ok. Sleep with a young'un! Oh you're married. Shit so am I. Sigh. Wanna make porridge and prune dumplings?


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Signe on January 08, 2009, 06:45:41 AM
I don't like porridge - it's a childhood thingy.  But those prune dumplings sound really nice.  I just might do that some time soon-ish.  Not the potato sort of dumplings, though.  I'll have to figure out a time that my sister is around.  She loves sweet food and she's always so constipated.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Yegolev on January 08, 2009, 11:13:58 AM
I'll be sure to ask your sister about her constipation, should we ever cross paths.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Signe on January 08, 2009, 02:08:38 PM
You don't want to do that.   :ye_gods:  She'll tell you all about it!


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Cory Jacobs on January 08, 2009, 06:24:19 PM
I'm not sure how... but I'm blaming Phildo's constant level grinding this strange turn of events. It's enough to turn anyone off of gaming. Eh, good luck to you sir! I'll be down that way in Feb, so try to have the book done by then.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Merusk on January 08, 2009, 07:19:07 PM
haha.  Amazing how cyclical our conversations all are.

Only because people don't know how to let go.

Always let go lightly.

Damnit.  And here I thought it was hold on loosely, but don't let go. 


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: schild on January 08, 2009, 08:39:11 PM
so try to have the book done by then.

It won't be, I'm shooting for this summer. I'll probably self-publish through blurb.com.


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Signe on January 09, 2009, 05:14:45 AM
I'll help by rooting for you. 


Title: Re: Me, New Years Day, f13, Games.
Post by: Yegolev on January 09, 2009, 06:46:36 AM
You don't want to do that.   :ye_gods:  She'll tell you all about it!

Hollow threat.  I have a son and two indoor dogs.  I roll natural twenties against shit.