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So the asshat is humbly asking for tips on modern mice that do not resemble airliner cockpits nor can be used to hunt baby seal. I have been looking at a Logitech G9 Laser, but that, too, seems too large for me. I want something small and agile that can be used with a claw grip. Any brand or quality will do, I can always get a reserve.

Many thanks in advance!

I think should take a picture of your hands, methinks they might be akin to that of a small boy.

So you live in Sweden?  Just go to Swedish Ebay and Swedish Amazon and buy them, or visit a local brick and mortar and buy them with some of your colorful money.  May I suggest Ikea, their meatballs are also fantastic so I would suggest trying them if you're famished.

Goumindong:
Close, but no cigar. :-) The beauty of the 1010/2020 is that the glossy area on the far right is actually a fourth button, so you have three "real" buttons and one extra on the scroll.

My favorite mouse would almost be Apple's Mighty Mouse.  Except the Scroll Ball always dies eventually and there is no way to clean the gunk out of it, and for fast action games its way of doing left, right, center, and thumb button clicks isn't all that great.

You shut the fuck up Chris Dane Owens.

I hadn't used a mighty mouse until last week, it is very much the worst mouse I've ever, ever used.

Has anyone tried this Logitech Air mouse (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Air-Rechargeable-Cordless-Mouse/dp/B000T8CWFE/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1230134218&sr=1-16)? I ask because I'm wondering if it would work as a 'Wii' controller of sorts with a big screen. My instinct is to say that it would not be responsive enough for FPS gaming, but you never know.

Speaking of which, I've been playing a lot of multiplayer FPS, and I can't help but notice that some players are just orders of magnitude more agile than I am in, say, tracking a target over a large angle, not to mention being very precise in their shots when I view them in 'spectator' mode. Is this a factor of my screen's response rate, their better mouse, or are they just that much more practiced? In essense, how much difference does a fast response mouse make in super fast reflex gaming situations?

You clearly haven't used Apple's "hockey puck" mouse before then :awesome_for_real:

The Mighty Mouse is just Apple's normal level of style before function.

So you live in Sweden?  Just go to Swedish Ebay and Swedish Amazon and buy them, or visit a local brick and mortar and buy them with some of your colorful money.  May I suggest Ikea, their meatballs are also fantastic so I would suggest trying them if you're famished.

IKEA was founded in Älmhult, Sweden, in 1943 by Ingvar Kamprad, when he was 17. The acronym IKEA is incidentally similar to the Greek word οικία [oikia] (home) and to the Finnish word oikea (true, correct, right), but was originally an abbreviation for "Ingvar Kamprad Elmtaryd Agunnaryd" which is the initial letters of his first and last name, the farm where he grew up and the town he lived in.

Originally, IKEA sold pens, wallets, picture frames, table runners, watches, jewelry and nylon stockings or practically anything Kamprad found a need for that he could fill with a product at a reduced price. Furniture was first added to the IKEA product range in 1948 and, in 1955, IKEA began to design its own furniture. The company motto is: "To create a better everyday life for the many people."

At first, Kamprad sold his goods out of his home and by mail order, but eventually a store was opened in the nearby town of Älmhult. It was also the location for the first IKEA "warehouse" store which came to serve as a model for IKEA establishments elsewhere. On 23 March 1963, the first store outside Sweden was opened in Asker, a Norwegian municipality outside Oslo.


[edit] IKEA stores
Main article: List of IKEA stores
The first IKEA store was opened in Sweden in 1958. The first stores outside Sweden were opened in Norway (1963) and Denmark (1969). The 1970s saw the spread of stores to other parts of Europe, with the first store outside Scandinavia opening in Switzerland (1973), followed by Germany (1974). During the same decade, stores were opened in other parts of the world, including Japan (1974), Australia and Hong Kong (1975), Canada (1976) and Singapore (1978). Germany, with 43 stores, is IKEA's biggest market, followed by the United States, with 34. IKEA now has 293 stores in 36 countries. However, the company has thus far not shown much of a presence in the developing countries.[8]

Despite its Swedish roots, IKEA is owned and operated by a complicated array of not-for-profit and for-profit corporations.

The IKEA corporate structure is divided into two main parts: operations and franchising. Most of IKEA's operations, including the management of the majority of its stores, the design and manufacture of its furniture, and purchasing and supply functions are overseen by Ingka Holding, a private, for-profit Dutch company. Of the IKEA stores in 36 countries, 235 are run by the INGKA Holding. The remaining 30 stores are run by franchisees outside of the INGKA Holding.[20]

INGKA Holding is not an independent company, but is wholly owned by the Stichting Ingka Foundation, which Kamprad established in 1982 in the Netherlands as a tax-exempt, not-for-profit foundation. The Ingka Foundation is controlled by a five-member executive committee that is chaired by Kamprad and includes his wife and attorney.[21]

While most IKEA stores operate under the direct purview of Ingka Holding and the Ingka Foundation, the IKEA trademark and concept is owned by an entirely separate Dutch company, Inter IKEA Systems. Every IKEA store, including those run by Ingka Holding, pays a franchise fee of 3% of the revenue to Inter IKEA Systems. The ownership of Inter IKEA Systems is exceedingly complicated and, ultimately, uncertain. Inter IKEA Systems is owned by Inter IKEA Holding, a company registered in Luxembourg. Inter IKEA Holding, in turn, belongs to an identically named company in the Netherlands Antilles that is run by a trust company based in Curaçao. The owners of this trust company are unknown (IKEA refuses to identify them) but are assumed to be members of the Kamprad family.[21]

That would be funny if Ikea wasn't Danish.

I have this one:

(http://gbaemu.dcemu.co.uk/big_img1star.jpg)

(the 1up star)

It totally sucks, but looks good in the geek room, so shrug.

I have a lachesis for my PC as well.

Ikea is Swedish. It's owned by a Dutch-registered foundation but the foundation is owned by the Swedish founder's family.

I have a fancy shmancy glowy DeathAdder, too.   I HATE IT!  It doesn't feel good and the scrolling wheel is dreadful.  It's headed for the bin and I'm going back to a fancy shmrancy Logitech. 

I have a fancy shmancy glowy DeathAdder, too.   I HATE IT!  It doesn't feel good and the scrolling wheel is dreadful.  It's headed for the bin and I'm going back to a fancy shmrancy Logitech. 

What the shit did you monsters do to Phildo? I had to go back through his old posts and spend two whole minutes finding an instance of him being quoted to figure out who it even was.

I told Schild that I didn't like a particular JRPG.

I told Schild that I didn't like a particular JRPG.

Here is the best mouse ever!
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=14879&vpn=931352%2D0215&manufacture=Logitech#CustomerReviews
You can try and convince me otherwise but you will just be wasting your time.

The higher dpi might be nice but I'm not a top end gamer, hell I'm barely an bottom end gamer.

As far as i can tell there is zero performance hit for going wireless with a high end Logitech.

Disagree.  :grin:

You disagree that I am unable to tell the difference between a wired and wireless mouse?

I have used the Diamondback, Copperhead, Deathadder, and Lachesis. My order of preference is Deathadder, Diamondback, Lachesis, Copperhead.

Didn't care for the Copperhead at all.

Congrats, Tarami.

Am I the only person around who uses a trackball? If this thing dies on me, I'm going to cry because MS are bastards and won't start making them again, nor will they license the design to someone else to make.
(http://images.tigerdirect.com/itemDetails/M/M17/M17-1726/M17-1726-callout1.jpg)

That's the exact same trackball I use and pimped earlier in this thread. I didn't realise it was no longer produced though. I'm going to keep my two extra safe from now on.

Am I the only person around who uses a trackball?

I am literally shocked that schild cannot find hex drivers.  I need to remedy.

I have them somewhere. Somewhere.

Except the Scroll Ball always dies eventually and there is no way to clean the gunk out of it...

I use a trackball for my work laptop at home due to space, but I don't think I could play a game with one unless they make them with wheels now.  The one I have is nice but does not have a middle button either.

I use one of these at work, and they are decent for work but I would never ever want to game with one.

Anyway, to clean the ball you should do this:

At the very first sign that its starting to get gunky, you take some windex and spray it on a sheet of paper towel. Then you lay the paper towel on a table, turn the mouse upside down and frantically rub the scroll ball around in the windex damp part.

You can also use rubbing alcohol I believe for even better results. So far windex has kept my ball working fine for a year and a half on my work mouse.

Probably, yes.

Also, my PC desk area has a very compact (or cramped, whatever) setup, so I don't see the point of a wireless mouse.

And really, how often do you use the mouse away from your desktop? Is the cable that much of a hassle?

Someone can have my DeathAdder for free, too.  I hate hate hate it.

Someone can have my DeathAdder for free, too.  I hate hate hate it.