Title: Wall E Post by: Margalis on December 14, 2008, 12:48:55 AM I just had the misfortune of watching this.
Wow. Awful. Can we stop saying that these movies are for kids but have things for adults too? I've seen this story about 500 times before and they went to back to well of "looks like this character might be dead - oh miracle of miracles they're still alive!!" about ten times in the last 40 minutes. It saddens me that this sort of simple tripe can entertain adults. Title: Re: Wall E Post by: ahoythematey on December 14, 2008, 06:45:41 AM Dude, you work for Square and that's your response to Wall-E?
Wall-E has a lot of heart, I don't understand how a person comes to hate the movie. Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Ratman_tf on December 14, 2008, 09:10:30 AM Dude, you work for Square and that's your response to Wall-E? Wall-E has a lot of heart, I don't understand how a person comes to hate the movie. I'll cut him some slack. I didn't care for Finding Nemo myself, but loved Wall-E. Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Abagadro on December 14, 2008, 09:28:00 AM Your heart is an icy black lump of coal.
Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Hoax on December 14, 2008, 09:49:45 AM I thought this was a great movie, I mean I only half watched it while doing a windows reinstall but I thought it was cute. If I had a kid I'd be glad I could watch this instead of, well, anything not made my Pixar for kids.
Title: Re: Wall E Post by: kERRA on December 14, 2008, 02:20:33 PM You're not supposed to think while watching movies like this. You're supposed to sit there with a box of tissues and say "awwwww."
Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Rishathra on December 14, 2008, 02:55:59 PM You are, of course, allowed to think, "wow, this is a great movie!"
Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Margalis on December 14, 2008, 05:11:55 PM Cute by itself doesn't do much for me and I didn't see the movie as having any heart at all. It was totally by the numbers. And the concepts all came across at such a basic level. Compare the anti-corporate message of Wall-E to the anti-inudstrial message of Princess Mononoke. The former is in baby-speak, overly obvious and frankly stupid coming from a company like Disney that doesn't have an anti-lazyness, anti-corporate bone in its body. Or if Mononoke is the wrong age range look at Totoro.
Title: Re: Wall E Post by: NiX on December 14, 2008, 05:13:56 PM Who in their right mind would show their kid Mononoke?
Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Triforcer on December 14, 2008, 06:14:13 PM Wall E made overweight people cry, according to Slate. The movie is practically a hate crime.
Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Fordel on December 14, 2008, 06:23:14 PM You have no soul sir. :heartbreak:
Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Kail on December 14, 2008, 06:31:27 PM I wasn't really nuts about this movie, either, and I generally love Pixar's stuff. It felt really generic, to me. I had tons of problems with characterization (Eva the autonomous scout robot sent to check the barren earth is able to fire nuclear laser beams, while the police robots have no real weapons and get the crap kicked out of them by the robot that paints the parking lines?) dialogue ("WALL-E!" "E-VA!" "WALL-E!" "E-VAAAAAA!" "WALL-EEEEEEEE!" FOR TWO FUCKING HOURS) and plot. Thought the climax, in particular, was weak. Generally, Pixar has some kind of kickass action sequence for the climax. Cars had the big race, The Incredibles had that big fight scene, Toy Story had the confrontation with Sid, Wall-E has a bunch of fatasses rolling around on the floor. Visuals were well done, though, I'll give them that (though I was kind of puzzled at their decision to use live actors for the "documentary footage" but sylized CG for the actual characters...).
Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Ironwood on December 15, 2008, 12:36:18 AM Don't you dare diss Nemo.
Title: Re: Wall E Post by: MrHat on December 15, 2008, 07:43:03 AM Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Ratman_tf on December 15, 2008, 08:29:58 AM Hey, I'm not gonna jump up and down and say Nemo sucked, but it's my least favorite of the Pixar movies by far.
I did like the seagulls. :grin: Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Merusk on December 15, 2008, 09:05:32 AM The seagulls still crack me up. I can't imagine the poor guy who has to stand outside of the "Living Seas/ Finding Nemo Experience" in Epcot center feels the same. Animatronic seagulls that flap and shout "mine" for a good 20 seconds every few minutes are only about 15 feet away.
Title: Re: Wall E Post by: DraconianOne on December 15, 2008, 09:33:13 AM Nemo was great. So anyone who thinks differently...
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/23/27943803_3f2278e8ec.jpg (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/23/27943803_3f2278e8ec.jpg) Title: Re: Wall E Post by: ghost on August 01, 2009, 09:11:54 PM I just watched this tonight. I wasn't very impressed. The story I guess was fine, but the whole enviro/fat thing gets old after a bit. It definitely could have been funnier.
Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Arthur_Parker on August 04, 2009, 02:57:50 AM The story I guess was fine, but the whole enviro/fat thing gets old after a bit. It definitely could have been funnier. Wall E came free with my blu-ray player, my daughter likes it and she calls the shots about what we watch on TV, so I've seen part of the director commentary. According to the director the whole idea came from what if a robot kept doing what it was designed to do for hundreds of years and didn't realise it could stop. His original idea was a robot on a trash planet, the finding life part was just to contrast with the rubbish and pretty much the remaining two thirds of the film just flowed from that, his original idea didn't include the environmental/fat message at all. I thought it was pretty good. Title: Re: Wall E Post by: SurfD on August 04, 2009, 12:17:00 PM My question is: If you had robots willing to do EVERYTHING for you to ensure your comfort, for MULTIPLE generations, do you honestly imagine that by the 5th or 6th generation humanity wouldn't be exactly like WALL-E depicted?
Hell, as far as I am concerned, they did the fat thing with a VERY light hand. They totally skipped out on the fact that if those were real humans, they would also have been lazy and feeling extremely entitled as well. You can be damn sure they would not have gone along with being "liberated" from their robotic conveniences quite as easily and swiftly. Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Lakov_Sanite on August 04, 2009, 12:56:54 PM My question is: If you had robots willing to do EVERYTHING for you to ensure your comfort, for MULTIPLE generations, do you honestly imagine that by the 5th or 6th generation humanity wouldn't be exactly like WALL-E depicted? Hell, as far as I am concerned, they did the fat thing with a VERY light hand. They totally skipped out on the fact that if those were real humans, they would also have been lazy and feeling extremely entitled as well. You can be damn sure they would not have gone along with being "liberated" from their robotic conveniences quite as easily and swiftly. Except that Wall-E was a comedy. I get what you're saying and in another movie it might have done well to explore those devices but for what it was, a pixar comedy...it was excellent. Title: Re: Wall E Post by: ghost on August 04, 2009, 09:16:36 PM Except that Wall-E was a comedy. I usually like Pixar stuff. For a comedy it certainly didn't seem particularly funny. I liked the idea of the robot doing what it was programmed to do. I thought the environmental part of the story was overblown, but whatever. The bottom line was that it seemed bland to me. Usually I will have a gut laugh or two out of these movies, but not this one. I can't really recommend this one. Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Tale on August 04, 2009, 10:02:22 PM My question is: If you had robots willing to do EVERYTHING for you to ensure your comfort, for MULTIPLE generations, do you honestly imagine that by the 5th or 6th generation humanity wouldn't be exactly like WALL-E depicted? Forget Hancock, now we're analysing Wall-E lore! Title: Re: Wall E Post by: DraconianOne on August 05, 2009, 02:51:27 PM I usually like Pixar stuff. For a comedy it certainly didn't seem particularly funny. Really? Wow. I thought the first 30 minutes or whatever was pure cinematic genius and very funny. Couldn't get the grin of my face for the entire movie. Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Teleku on August 05, 2009, 03:40:23 PM .........
Margalis, please report to your nearest 'relocation' camp, and head straight to the 'showers'. Title: Re: Wall E Post by: schild on August 05, 2009, 03:43:02 PM I didn't like it. It wasn't bad. It just felt like it was trying too hard to be art, while it clearly wasn't. There's nothing wrong with just making a movie - they should've stuck to that. /shrug
Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Khaldun on August 06, 2009, 03:26:14 PM I thought the first part was fantastic. The second part verged into preachy and obvious. It was good, but not the greatest of Pixar's output.
Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Sjofn on August 06, 2009, 06:21:35 PM I loved the first part and enjoyed the bit of transcending gender roles it did (EvE is the exploring, rescuing bad-ass, Wall-E is the nurturing show-tunes lover that teaches EvE to care about MORE than her JOB). I was pretty indifferent to the The Message though.
Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Lantyssa on August 07, 2009, 01:38:38 PM I was the same. Eve being tempramental and possessing weapons that could vaporize anything just added to the fun.
Title: Re: Wall E Post by: Brogarn on August 07, 2009, 02:03:49 PM I thought the first part was fantastic. The second part verged into preachy and obvious. It was good, but not the greatest of Pixar's output. That's my view on it as well. I feel the messages in most Pixar movies are done rather well without interrupting the flow of entertainment but instead enhancing it and giving you something to chew on later. This one was too obvious and heavy handed. It was like Hancock where you felt like you just watched two movies compressed together to make one film. One part message, the other part entertainment instead of smoothly combining the two. Title: Re: Wall E Post by: ghost on August 17, 2009, 01:28:09 PM Eve was badass. The problem is that this movie was way too much of a "message movie".
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