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where did (will) you go?

Trying to decide if I should cut and run to something else.

Don't really want to go back to WoW or EVE though.

WoW, started from scratch on a medium/high pop server, totally different experience (was on Anub'arak which is such a shitty server).

edit: Well totally different is wrong. It's a better experience not waiting in LFG for hours on the low pop server.

I read this (http://www.massivegamer.com/gamelist.php?game=8&section=features&view=34) and decided to try LOTRO, there's info about free trails here (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=15568.0).

Seems a bit easier to get a statue (http://www.lotrolife.com/lotro_housing_furniture/small_yard/158/dwarf_statue_hailing_hero/), there's a Yule festival event going on at the moment as well.

Went back to CoH.  Will probably play it until I get bored, then go back to DAoC for a month, and then quit MMO's for a few years. 

Time to get outdoors more. 

Im still giving WAR a shot and will play until I stop having fun.  If I did leave, WOW would not be an option for me so Id probably go back to AOC and see how things are there.  My next new game though will be SGW online which comes out in Q1 2009 supposedly. 

I just talked to an guild buddy in WoW, and ordered the expansion.

I may change my mind before it gets here, but right now it looks like I'll be dinking around in WoW some more.

Nowwhere. Back to single-player games and am betaing a football(soccer) MMO.

O_O how does something like this work:D?

On topic: single player games too, with steam games (l4d, tf2) and mainly DotA. Waiting for D3 now (it will totally destroy my social life. I think they spread cocaine through the cable when you play that damned game).

No MMO currently.

http://footballsuperstars.com/ (http://footballsuperstars.com/)

I think I'm  :nda: so can't tell you how well it works. But you play one player on the pitch. 3-a-side, 5-a-side, 7-a-side and up to 11-a-side.

Playing a mixture of Guild Wars, FusionFall, DOMO, and MegaTen where I'm further distracting myself by making a database for fusions and demon info.  It's kinda cool, but it needs some serious optimizing.

We also bought a 90 day EQ2 play pass at Gamestop for $20.  I wanted to save it for a rainy day, but the roomie's gaming ADD wants us to play it now.  Half-price had CoX's Good and Evil edition for $10, so I was considering a month of that, but the free weekend didn't draw me at all so I'm thinking it'll be a waste.

Went back to WoW.  I really like the DK.  Playing through the expansion (and even TBC again) has shown me how ridiculously bad WAR's PVE was.  Bad enough that I'km not sure why you'd even have it in the game.  It's an embarassment.

Only think I'll miss in the PVP balance in scenarios.  By the time I get back to doing BGs in WoW, players will be running around with 800+ resilience and 30K hp.

WoW, but still training all my Eve accounts...

Went back to lord of the rings.

http://www.stickcricket.com/ (http://www.stickcricket.com/)

WoW (and perhaps some CoH and EQ1) and teaching myself Python. Having fun with turtle graphics.  ;D

I went back to WOW.

I'd like to try LOTRO again just to play with the new classes, but that game's playerbase is way too fruity for me.

Lich King is the best MMO expansion I've ever played, I think. I'm not sure WAR wasn't doomed due to timing even if it wasn't structurally broken.

I went back to LOTRO and the PVE there is much, much better than WAR's and feels better than it did at launch. (Much more content, which helps alot).

LOTRO.

I have no MMO.
EvE - hate moving shit around
LotRO - too slow, pvp is crap, I hate Turbine
WoW - not yet, maybe later since they seem to be moving away from raids
SB - post-traumatic stress.
EQ2 - moving to RMT + sub
DDO - Kinda want to but it looks dead, still hate Turbine.
AoC - still waiting for them to get their shit together.

I was weak... and after 10 months of no WoW, I bought Wotlk. After lots of downloads and patches I finally logged in. It took all of about 3 minutes of Orgrimmer chat spam to feel :geezer:

So how has my Wotlk experience been, any new and exciting things?!?  I got to drive a tank, and that was cool.  But the best part was when I met a guy who wanted me to collect 10 of something and bring them back to him, and the time I met another guy who wanted me to kill 8 of something for him, oh and a guy who wanted me to free 5 of something for him.

Have yet to check out the new pvp zones/instances... but so far it is a snoozefest
speaking of which a snoozefest emoticon would be nice, I will just toss in this  :hello_kitty: cause it is cute, and i like cats.



The drunk Aussies and Kiwis in vent are highly entertaining though, so that helps make up for things I suppose.

That was how I felt about WOTLK.  Got to the new area and first quest I got was kill X number of some mob. Anyhow, got bored of same old same old after an hour and havent logged back on since. 

You have a sickness. Why would you hate turbine?

AC2 made me feel incredibly cheated.
When I went to buy LotRO during their anniversary sell, the fucking site didn't work.

Restarted WoW from scratch after having not played since the 3rd month after release.

Oh. I can send you a buddy key? lol. I can't for the life of me think of any of my dealings with turbine as leading to hate. I was expecting to hear a story form ya.

I played the free trial back in June, lasted maybe 10 hours.  How is the buddy key different? Moria doesn't change anything for new players right?

Yes, it does, go check out the graveyard. Don't want to derail this much more than we have already. Turbine, unlike others, Expands their games, not just tops it off.

If you're there already, might want to roll a Death Knight.  They've got a bunch of "Kill six feebs" quests, but overall, their quest line is among the most fun I've had in a PvE MMO, and it's fairly quick.  Gets pretty awesome at the end, in my opinion ('course, then it's back to Outland for the next ten levels).

Personally, I'm playing both WoW and WAR right now.  If WAR can get it's act together, awesome, I think it's got more potential than WoW does at this point, but they seem slow to capitalize on it.

WoW Lich King
I took one of my 70s to 72 in WoW, got bored and stopped playing it again. The chat channel also reminded me why I don't play it anymore. When I saw 65 (yes, 65) people in BRS to get a "Jenkins" title I logged.

LOTRO Moria
I have LOTRO MoM and think I will try it. I always liked the game at launch, just got bored at the cap with nothing much to do. I understand there is more content for maxed people now (and MoM is all new to me anyway).

DAoC Origins
I would play this for sure, but we all know why it won't even happen due to WAR. But if it did I'd be there just for once around the old golf course...

Darkfall
My head tells me vapor, my heart says wait and see. If they do most of what they claim they can, it might be worthwhile to try it. No baby catapults is a good sign.

Although I haven't played WAR since mid-2008's beta period, I've recently gone back to WOW, and it's been especially great with the Recruit-A-Friend XP boost.  It's been since 3 Halloweens ago that I last played.  49 levels in 31 hours /played is a breakneck pace compared to the old WOW, which was then quite fast compared to DAOC and AC2.  I'm having enough fun to seriously consider purchasing WotLK.

I went back to WoW. My god what a difference from WAR. The game just feels so smooth and polished. In WotLK they did a lot of things right, but its still WoW. If you enjoyed WoW, but got bored of it, give WotLK a try as its more of the same, but better and with some really cool new features. If you hated WoW gameplay, this expansion wont change your mind.

I am completely enjoying it. I feel that the leveling up experience is about 100 times more polished than BC was.

*Edit* Forgot to mention, I play on Tich, which is a very very active server. Which I really like. I would much rather have to wait for quests mobs and fight other people than play on a dead server in "singleplayer" mode. If I wanted that I would play a singleplayer game.

Didn't really go "back" to WoW, as I never really left, but that's what I'm playing now. I've been thinking of giving LotRO another whirl after the holidays. I really like that game ... except for the combat. :(

WoTLK: Deathknight is fun as is SL/Dest build Warlock. Shelved my enhancement shaman - Blizzard "Mythic'd" the class (verb "to mythic" to take something with all the potential in the world and rip the soul from it. See: "fun nazi"). Deathknight quests were very nice, the rest is a bit meh but at least it doesn't have a T3 grind.

Also back to GW for a bit, but it's past its use-by date.

Other than that I tried the Real Life MMO. Graphics need a bit of an update though and the grind is a bit of a shocker.

Holding out for GW2, D3 and SC2 and burning money on restoring my '64 Holden.

I hear the Cybor is pretty damn realistic though. :rimshot:

I had more fun in AC2 than in WAR.  Sad, but as I look back, true. 

I would like to try a LOTRO just to see where it's at if you've got a plethora of buddy keys.  If they're in short supply, don't bother. I won't really be able to devote a lot of time to it.

I have tried to play LotRO several times. Each time, I managed to get to level 5-7ish and just cant stand the combat. Its so slow and dull feeling.

I think that's very true, I don't know why but when I start killing Orcs at about level 18 the combat just clicks in for me, it never becomes fast though (Guardian).  I think the slower speed helps you think tactically, though it's probably just me getting old.

Just hit up the thread he mentioned earlier.  Everyone who bought Moria has/had at least 3 keys each.

edit:  my bad, he didn't actually mention the thread:
http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=15568.0 (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=15568.0)

I've got keys, among other people, if anyone needs them.

I'm back to that Massive Overtime game. Other than that, LotRO, which I never really left.

Also, I agree with this. The combat never gets as vivid as in WoW or CoX, but after a while you start thinking differently and more about how you "progress" in a combat than finding a perfect cycle of abilities. There's more of a priority flowchart, because you have often many options that haven't got obvious advantages to others. Entirely subjectively I've found LotRO's classes more fun and interesting to play than WoW's, because they are rather cross-bred and can pull off some pretty awesome stuff when played carefully. Many, many skills interact, by consuming eachothers' debuffs and chain in interesting manners that aren't always linear.

Sorry for derail.

Quit WAR, went back to Counterstrike, DotA, L4D and Red Alert 3. Will probably be picking up Quake Wars:ET and Savage 2 at some point. Contemplating going back to LotrO, because i want to see how they did Moria, plus, i genuinely liked the game. It felt so nice. Furthermore, i hear my Captain gets an archer Herald now.

Currently I'm waiting for the CoH/V Winter Event to start.

Also playing The Witcher and on my Xbox 360; betaing Champions Online (which is all I can say).

If i understand it right, they've tried to address that with one of the new introduced classes, the warden. It works different from other classes in the game, by stringing few basic moves into 'combos' that perform various effects other classes are given through regular, slower skills. Don't know if that idea succeeded as i didn't try the warden class, but if you can get a free trial maybe it's worth checking.

After hitting the brickwall of suck that is T3, I went back to wow.
To be honest, I got little fuzzies of familiarity as the patcher started, I logged in feeling kind of excited with nostalgia thinking about the classes and trying to decide what I would re roll....

the second I logged in I was overcome with boredom and the sudden realization that to make it to 80 I would probably need to invest 3 months of grinding through azeroth again for like the 20th time. The nostalgia was replaced with the memory of why I quit in the first place and vowed to never give it any more of my time. Then came the nausea.

It was a good game for a really long time, but for me at least, its time has passed. I can never go back to that place.




The fact that WAR for me is the best thing out right now makes me cringe. It has a long way to go and mythic hasn't shown us enough yet to inspire confidence in the long term. I don't know when it became acceptable for companies to release products before they were finished, but this shit has to stop.
(edit: oh i remember now. When dumbasses like me allowed their subscription to renew instead of refusing to pay for a beta like I should have done, and hit the eject button.)

I'm also a WoW returnee.  About the time I hit the tier 3 suck and quit I got a come back for 10 days thing from WoW so I gave it a shot.  Next thing I know I'm buying a 60 day game card at target.  I've logged in to WAR a couple times to patch (because I'm a doofus I reupped for 90 days just before I hit the tier 3 wall) but the contrast is too much.  WoW's environments are more attractive even their wastelands are easier on the eye than War's, the combat is smoother, the PVE is more interesting, and most importantly they have reduced the grind.  How long I will continue to play is hard to say since work travel always picks up in the first quarter but I'm far more likely to come back to WoW again than I ever will be for War which is kind of a shame cause the first 20 levels in War were the most fun I've had in an MMO since I quit playing UO.

I decided to check out Age of Conan.  I figured if nothing else, all the bugs would be gone and despite all the bad press it received I was always quietly interested in the universe itself.  Judged on nothing other than "fun right now," AoC has been great and I'm willing to pay a monthly fee.  The open pvp has also been a great change from the bland rvr of WAR considering so many of the people I wanted to kill always seem to be on the same side as me.

LoTRO.   :heart:

We are on Brandywine and quiet a few f13'rs play casually.

I went back to WOW after my first paid WAR month. My guild's playing super casual, our mains just hit 80 this week... we'll probably mess around with heroics and pvp (pvp is completely broken atm, but eh), but not going to raid. It remains to be seen how long WOW will retain us, but so far so good, the expansion content is really well done.

About other games... LOTRO was a decent game, shame that crossing a server line instantly dropped me from the game for 5 minutes. (note to Turbine: use TCP and stop clinging to the AC netcode, kthxbye) GW was mostly enjoyable (with some annoyances) and most of us are looking forward to GW2. CoH/CoV was blah due to the solo-unfriendliness and TEH GRIND, but it had its moments. None of us want to play Elite With Spreadsheets In Space, so EVE is out. I think that about covers it. :p


-- Z.

what

LOTRO uses UDP instead of TCP (many other games, ie WOW, use TCP). When crossing server lines, it transmits a ton of UDP packets in a very short amount of time which causes several routers (including mine) to crap out and/or blacklist the server for X amount of time.

The 'clinging to the AC netcode' bit was because I've read somewhere that LOTRO is built on the same netcode as AC was. /shrug


-- Z.

Get a new router.

You know, that horrible (http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x144/aliengibsonfarm/ScreenShot00056.jpg) netcode (http://gpgsqa.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pS7-_8_CNLRkyBQkUJmi-ytPHiK2dCUzns4d9fHaPUxRwaHWj-5p2C8fR4-MkMg5XGprmWscayhYmFC_LESMoLA/19.03.08%20Now%20Thats%20what%20i%20call%20a%20FOS%20PVMP%20night!!.jpg) LotRO is using (http://litg.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/screenshot00032.jpg).

Right, sorry, fanboy.

Or update your current router, I can understand a lot of Turbine content hate (AC2) but the game engine itself is top class.  I play via a strange setup with a wireless router converted to a bridge connecting into my main wireless router and I don't have any issues like that.

When zoning its completely seemless to me - thats pretty odd it would crash your router.

Yes, I keep my router firmware updated; it's a Gigabyte GN-BR01G and works just fine. I've never had any other problems with it, with any other game or app (even those that use UDP), so I'm kinda unconvinced in needing to buy a new one just to play one game. See also here (http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?p=1543172)... this was rehashed a while ago in some WOW thread (of all places :P).

Tarami: I've never said that the netcode scales badly or whatever... I should've probably specified that my beef is with them using UDP instead of TCP. I assume others have this problem too. (several posted in that thread) Might be just me, but I wouldn't mind a bit more network overhead / possible extra latency as a tradeoff for more stable gameplay.

As for fanboism, I enjoyed LOTRO more than WOW in several aspects... it's just difficult when you have to play a "how do I minimize the number of zone line crossings" minigame while questing.


Ninja edit to fuser because I don't want to derail the thread even more: Yes, but that's what I implied, sorta. :p The only thing my router has problems with is LOTRO, which is not enough reason for me to buy a new router. It's like being told to buy a new TV because one of the many channels that you watch comes in grainy due to a weird non-standard transmission method they use... (which might come in fine for 99% of the populace)


-- Z.

From your own troubleshooting

Your router is broken in handling the packets, its a firmware or hardware issue. I really doubt you want to buy a new one for it but hey don't blame the netcode :P

I'm going to join the "it's your router" club. Sorry. My router is a POS and I've never had more problems than severe lag in Bree. (I'm on Landroval, the unofficial RP server, and people tend to gather in Bree to RP.)

Since you guys appear to be router experts, tell me what type of wireless router to buy.  Newegg links appreciated.

WRT54GL (Linux based + big flash)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124190

Then grab DD-WRT (http://www.dd-wrt.com/) and reflash it.


Side note: Have been playing with a WRT54G2. It's not a bad router but the flash is so small only micro will work and the connection limits is 512 (unable to boost it atm), its a newer processor with a 40mhz bump so dd-wrt screams and the casing looks nice  :why_so_serious:

Guy who I think is in Norway with your current router who also gets the same problem.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?p=1073627#post1073627
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=40959&page=11
http://community.codemasters.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-218500.html

I was just being snarky. The fanboy comment was referring to myself. :-]

To be honest though, I actually had that problem a while back. It was resolved but I can't recall how right now. It wasn't my router in that case, however, as I don't use one.

I had a similar problem years ago with my old Linksys router and EQ. EQ would flood the router with data and it would kill the connection. I had to downgrade the firmware in order to solve the problem. Would it solve the problem to put your comp into the DMZ and run a software firewall?

I have that same router (WRT54GL) and have no problems with it at all. I purchased it from newegg this summer and use the Firmware 4.30.11 version that came on it. I see no reason to upgrade firmware unless you need/want a new feature it might add (in this case, the new version really does nothing) or it fixes a security issue.

I am throwing my support behind this one as well!  Not using it right now, but have had a lot of experience with it in the past.

I think im using this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833314006), and i don't have issues at all, even with 5 people all zoning  :grin:

LOTRO is pretty cool. I mean, I started playing it expecting nothing but a solid PvE game with some player vs monster thing I can mess with when I'm bored. So far, its been pretty fun. If I want to fight other players I have tons of other games to do that in, because looking for that kind of action in a MMO these days is frustrating beyond words.

LOTRO is very well done.  It may not be for everyone, but it doesn't try to be.  The graphics are very nice and who doesn't like Lord of the Rings that would play an MMO?

I have to say this IP made it so that I would never play it.  I like the books, but I find that world an unsuitable setting in which to have an MMO game.  an RTS game in which you play one of the factions seems interesting, but an MMO game makes little sense to me as the IP is not open-ended.  All the characters/places you come to know in the books come to an end.  It's a fantasy world, where at the end of the story fantasy dies, and (eventually) humans are all that remain.  Pretty depressing stuff, if you're looking to play a fantasy-themed game.

Yes, I'm one of those people that don't see the point in watching Titanic because, well, the boat sinks in the end.  (oddly, WWII History channel doesn't follow this same logic, as I'll watch that at the drop of a hat)

Eh, different strokes for different folks, I guess.  You do know that LOTR is basically where all these cutesy little books and games with dwarves, elves, orcs, etc. came from, right?  If you haven't played LOTRO they actually did a very good job with it.

Most of the things we consider "Tolkein-esque" are really elements of norse mythology that he just adapted (er ripped off).

Somehow they managed to straddle the line between "You're a hero" and "The fellowship is traveling to Mordor on a secret mission." You interact with them at times but most of your time is spent doing things they aren't. You do occasionally get to do stuff like clear things from their path or help in other ways. For instance, a quest chain I'm on right now has me trying to find some Isengard orcs who took something from a campsite the fellowship left behind. This came from a quest where I was supposed to clean those campsites and ensure that noone could use them to follow the Fellowship.

Er, put into a great story...... :oh_i_see:

Sleep is wrong.

(http://profile.ak.facebook.com/object3/836/57/l31670987384_1786.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQEBFCvVHMo)


 :grin:

Tolkien borrowed from many mythologies.  For example the entire Turin Turambar story is an adaptation of parts of Finnish myth.  Some of what Tolkien "borrowed" was only partial, or more often a mish-mash.  People think Norse mythology just has Tolkien like dwarves, but they do not.  Also various form Alfar are often smooshed together with Dvergar.  Tolkien took some of the character of Norse dwarves especially in regards to stories.  But the definitive shortness combined tough/hardy/stout is a Tolkien thing or perhaps more of an english thing where dwarves are always short.  In Norse mythology dvergar are sometimes even human sized and either way quite variable and usually quite magical. 

Similarly the dwarf languages is meant to sound middle eastern/aramaic, not Norse.  So why do most games make them sound scottish?


Also many elves in many fantasy stories remain notably Victorian/pixie like and not that Norse.  Friggin stupid pointy ears.  Should we say everyone is ripping off Peter Pan and Tinker Bell.


This whole Tolkien took everything from Norse myth meme is cute and all.  It certainly has basis in truth and was said by the man himself.  But a lot of people use it without having any real knowledge about norse myth.

I suggest anyone using this meme not take it to heart that much.  Its not very useful when out of context.  The differences between Tolkien dwarves and Dvergar are as notable as the similarities.  There is just as much unsaid englishness in them.  And it is un-wise to underestimate the very large effect of Victorian notions and cleansings upon modern conceptaions of stereotypical fantasy. 


In some ways one of Tolkiens greatest contributions was to get back to the more authentic myth and give people something other than Victorian pixie BS.

just to add to the derail and LotRO cheerleading.

Here's a nice example of where the books and the MMO come together: 

You are given an epic quest at 30 by Aragorn while the Fellowship is in Rivendell before setting out to Moria.  It's the part in the books where a lot happens, including that Narsil (Aragorn's family sword, which cut the one ring from Sauron) is reforged.  Turns out the sword needs some special crafting elements to be put back together.  That's your job and your team's -- go to Annuminas (the ancient northern kingdom of the Dunedain that was overun by the Enemy), get the stuff, and get it back to the elves to repair the sword and for the Fellowship can get moving.  While you are gone the Fellowship is debating who will take the one ring into Mordor, so you feel a part of the story time-wise a little.  To me, this was a very ingenious and welcome connection to the story, which didn't screw with the "canon" at all.  I haven't seen any other MMO do quests this equivalently well yet.

The Bilbo riddle quests are pretty good as well, also the LOTRO pub crawl, which it sounds like WAR is adding.

Should we discuss the color of Bilbos door next?  Idiots.

I'm up for that, it was a lot of fun last time (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=8843.msg249963#msg249963).

THIS will get people back!

From my email:


If they'd ungrinded their game, they wouldn't need trinkets like this.

Does the band have an influence bar.......? :uhrr:

Isn't this the same band you got for Preordering?

If anyone is interested in what Tolkien was trying to do, I strongly reccomend this book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0261104012?ie=UTF8&ref_=pd_sim_b_1

by Thomas Shippey, a former Oxford University teacher, currently at St Louis University. I'm not even a huge Tolkien fan, but it's a fascinating read.

Dude, you're gonna get pinked, er, Cheddared if you keep up the Tolkien stuff

On topic then, I've returned to Eve after a couple of years away to find the corp I was in has broken up,  leaving me as the sole member and, for some reason,  CEO. I'm not sure why they didn't boot me. Sadly, they didn't leave me any isk or items to plunder.

But I am keeping the WAR account for a bit.

Since I hit tier 4 it's been PvP all the way and it's fun. Log on, ask where the war's at and go join a warband. You now get exp and renown for defending keeps as well as taking them (not just for being in the keep during defence and killing players, but a big exp and renown hit when the last enemy is slaughtered).

I don't know how it compares to doing the quests and I don't really care. It doesn't matter so much what level you are when you are running around as part of a  warband fighting the enemy.

I share this point of view, almost exactly. It is the same reason I don't like historic fantasy or things that are "based on a true story".

Yes. I think I wore mine until I crossed my first zone border. The campfire was equally wondrous.

Nice touch (except wounds), I  lol'd. Maybe such an overpowered trinket should also have the "Offer not good in MA, NH or NJ" just to make it feel even more exclusive.

Ooh, purple..

Pretty much.

Except the pre-order bands do some other type of damage besides Corporeal. My Azure pre=order band is exactly the same only I think it does ice damage? I never used the effect since it was mostly worthless and only had 2 or 3 charges.

Seriously, if they'd post saying that required XP to level through T3 had been lowered by one-third to one-half, I'd come back. It'd have to be at least one-third though.

I tried going back to WoW, but after a few hours of grinding and thinking about the PvP I was working toward, I got depressed and canceled again.

I burned through Fallout 3, that was a lot of fun but hard to find any replay-ability (yeah I can be bad but it still feels like the same old quests).

I finally tried Crysis.  /yawn

Now I see that Eve has 5 days free so I'm going to burn through that and see if it can pull me into resubscribing (I am not counting on it).

After that, I might actually come back to WAR for a little while because it's too cold outside to do anything productive.

This game just keeps on giving the love. I hooked up ye olde external drive, fired up the patcher, patched to the latest and greatest, jumped in and was promptly presented with the message that the server was coming down in 15 minutes. It's like Mythic desperately wants me to play WoW.  :headscratch:

lol I know the feeling.  I had Monday/Tuesday off sick and decided to War my face off both days but both turned out to be patch days :(  Luckily the down time was minimal

I'm back in WoW.  Fresh start after nearly a year and a half absence.  I'm really liking the death knight and the new content.  Much more than the previous stuff.  Seems the 5-mans and quests are a lot better.

But basically my problems with WoW before was that it's so hard to find a good guild and server.  In the past every guild I've been in has collapsed under envy and strife, maybe I'm the deciding factor.  It was so much easier to get a good guild in older MMOs, now it seems all the good guilds are premades or they're not recruiting your class.  So I'm in a guild now, but no idea how long it'll last.  I find the people in it breathtakingly stupid and humorless, but they mean well for the most part.

I'm still hoping for the magic patch that buffs XP in WAR massively, and fixes the rest of their game.  Because I would like to play a PvP mmo and I'm just not interested at all in WoW's pvp anymore.

My affair with War only lasted a few days before returning to my wife Eve.

The forum shitstorm was far more entertaining than actually playing.

Gonna mess around with consoles for a bit... then check out Aion for NA release later.

Playing LOTRO at the moment, never got very far in the game previously, but this time it grabbed me. I play a captain and I'm level 20, I really enjoy the quests in LOTRO, also the fellowship quest are always a good distraction and the class is interesting.

I'm also waiting for improvement in WAR, I guess I'll be back sometimes.

I went back to WoW and all I can say is "fuck WAR". WoW absolutely shits all over WAR. PvE is fun, levelling is blindingly fast, PvP is "ok". There is no fucking Tor Annroc bullshit scenarios. I play on a PvP server and you can actually find people to gank.

Plus I've picked up EVE - nice to see a MMO other than WoW that isn't a fucking ghost town.

I really wanted to stick with WAR, I thought I saw potential. Then I realised I was deluding myself.