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Title: Suggested Addons
Post by: NiX on November 11, 2008, 01:39:53 PM
I've been away from WoW for a long time, so I'm looking for some suggested Add-ons. I have TomTom and Lightheaded, but I need a bar add-on and one that makes quest text go faster. Any other suggestions are welcome. I think I used to have an add-on for inventory, but I can't remember why.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Nebu on November 11, 2008, 01:41:28 PM
You can get insta quest text from the options menu in game. 



Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Rasix on November 11, 2008, 01:43:08 PM
I've been away from WoW for a long time, so I'm looking for some suggested Add-ons. I have TomTom and Lightheaded, but I need a bar add-on and one that makes quest text go faster. Any other suggestions are welcome. I think I used to have an add-on for inventory, but I can't remember why.

I always liked Bongos for bar management.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Nonentity on November 11, 2008, 02:01:37 PM
Bartender4. The new mouseover keybind functionality is amazing - you just click the 'Bind Keys' button in the config menu, then mouseover a hotkey on a bar, and press what you want the hotkey for that button to be, and you're done.

You can then even hide the bar if you want, if you want invisible hotkeys.

I enjoy Skinner, just because I've looked at the default WoW UI plenty - it just makes all of the wood-and-stone interface stuff into a plain black gradient (Sadly, I don't think it will skin Lightheaded)

I don't use any sort of inventory mod, outside of ItemRack for managing my different gear sets.

Pick up Bayi's Extended Questlog - http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/bayis-extended-questlog.aspx - it gives you a double-pane quest log, and when you mouseover a mob or item needed for a quest, it will include it in the tooltip, including how many you need, etc. - I also enjoy the floating quest helper a good deal

Speaking of tooltips, pick up CowTip - I don't like all extra bullshit they put on the tooltip, but just uncheck the extended text function. I also like being able to move tooltips, having stuff anchored in the lower right corner pisses me off.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: K9 on November 11, 2008, 02:09:02 PM
If you're a healing class who ever plans to step into any environment with more than 4 other players, get Grid.

In fact, everyone should get Grid because it is pretty much the best, most informative, cleanest and lightweight raid unit-frame available.

Bartender4 - They've made the menu's a lot better. Like all addons it takes a little learning, but allows massive customisation.
Squeenix - Nice mini-map mod
Elkanos BuffBars - Nice way to tidy up buff icons
Recount - The best damage meter available, period
Pitbull - Great, clean unit frames. Massive amounts of customisation (the options menu can be a bit baffling) but can simulate party and raid environments so you can get everything right while solo.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Nija on November 11, 2008, 02:26:26 PM
CARBONITE QUEST!

http://www.carboniteaddon.com/ (http://www.carboniteaddon.com/)


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Ingmar on November 11, 2008, 02:38:07 PM
I can heal a 10 person raid just fine with the default raid ui and a little dragging of windows around. The one time I went to a 25 I was pretty lost though, I think I would need something with a little more functionality.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Nonentity on November 11, 2008, 02:56:20 PM
If you're a healing class who ever plans to step into any environment with more than 4 other players, get Grid.

In fact, everyone should get Grid because it is pretty much the best, most informative, cleanest and lightweight raid unit-frame available.

Bartender4 - They've made the menu's a lot better. Like all addons it takes a little learning, but allows massive customisation.
Squeenix - Nice mini-map mod
Elkanos BuffBars - Nice way to tidy up buff icons
Recount - The best damage meter available, period
Pitbull - Great, clean unit frames. Massive amounts of customisation (the options menu can be a bit baffling) but can simulate party and raid environments so you can get everything right while solo.


Good suggestions - I personally prefer ag_unitframes, but they're super similar anyways.

simpleMinimap is a nice minimap replacement as well.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Ratman_tf on November 11, 2008, 02:56:35 PM
Speaking as someone who hates to tinker with addons, I suggest Gatherer and Auctioneer.
Gatherer records resource nodes and displays them on your game map and mini-map radar.
Auctioneer helps manage auction house sales and tracks prices. Very handy if you have a bag of junk that you want to sell, but don't know what the going AH value is.



Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Hawkbit on November 11, 2008, 03:05:53 PM
Ackis Recipe List off Curse

Tells you what recipes you're missing from your lists.  Pretty handy for the OCD. 

Also like DMiniCoords for showing where you're at. 


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Ralence on November 11, 2008, 03:33:46 PM

METAHuD is a godsend if they can get it working again, unbelievably useful for a rogue.  I also like ScrollingCombatText (The big flashing ENVENOM when you have a 5-stack is nice).  Omen threatmeter is a given for even 5-mans at this point, and I like Natur Enemycastbar for PVP, the cooldown timers are extremely handy for your enemies spells.



Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Fordel on November 11, 2008, 04:00:48 PM
The only Mod I use that isn't a 'default' mod like Omen, is Totem Timers for my shaman. Damn shaman is just unmanageable without a totem mod.


Before the Mod, I could potentially have *every* quickbar slot taken up by a totem. With the mod I have room to spare on my visible bars, don't even use the secondaries.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: K9 on November 11, 2008, 04:20:07 PM
and I like Natur Enemycastbar for PVP, the cooldown timers are extremely handy for your enemies spells.

Natur seems to be the most popular, personally I use Quartz (Casting Bar Addon) and Cooldown Count for cooldown alerts.



Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Selby on November 11, 2008, 04:20:45 PM
The only thing I have used in years of playing is Gatherer for herbs and mining nodes.  Not much else is absolutely necessary (even things like decursive, etc that people love).


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Numtini on November 11, 2008, 04:40:29 PM
Can't Live Without:

Bartender 4 & quartz for improved casting bars, timers, etc.
Cartographer--removes fog, improved  maps, also includes a waypoint system.
Questhelper--quest waypoints, improved on screen quest display, and quest information added to MOB tooltips (ie, target something and it tells you if you need it or something it drops for a quest you have)
TotemTimers --  if you're a shaman a must, frees up dozens of casting slots and does shield management as well.
Grid--raid/group unit frames for healing. There's almost nothing you can't show cleanly and easily with this mod. Who has aggro. Who has incoming heals and how muc the heal will be for. And so small that you can still see the battle. There's almost nothing you can't customize with this mod. For example, curses. I have the ones I can cure show up as a big icon on top of the person and as a small dot if its one I can't. For some of these you will need different gird modules. 

I run a lot of other stuff as well.

FuBar -- top/bottom info/action bars. I run with a bunch of stuff. Performance, location, experience, Durability Fu to show current broken percent and autorepairs when you hit a repair vendor, GarbageFu to autosell greys at a vendor and gives you a list of cheapest items to click-drop when your inventory is full
Recount -- very nice damage/dps/etc meter (I still mourn the loss of EQ2s ACT though)
Omen -- threat indicator
Auctioneer -- makes AH stuff easier
MiniPet -- Icon for a random minipet and warning text when you need to resummon
XPerl Unit Frames -- lots of features that I don't use, I just like the look





Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: fuser on November 11, 2008, 05:11:12 PM
Numtini really hit a lot as did others, but i'll add some others that haven't been mentioned

Chinchilla - Minimap replacement along the lines of squeenix
DoTimer - Great little cooldowntimer
FishermansFriend - Autocast/better noise etc
EQCompare - Little tooltip of your currently equiped gear to compare
kgPanels - You can cleanup you ui and drop panels over the place
Prat - cleans up your chat logs nicely

One tip, watchout with Bartender4 as the new beta RC's will remove bars such as your xp and rep. 4.1.2 works fine.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Xeyi on November 11, 2008, 05:34:46 PM
The main addons I use have pretty much already been llsted, however for resource harvesting I also use the combination of the following:

Cartographer (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/cartographer.aspx) - As someone mentioned above, better maps, removal of fog and waypoint compatibility.

Gathermate (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/gathermate.aspx) - Similar to Gatherer, it stores all resource nodes you come across and can display them in cartographer

Gathermate Data (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/gathermate_data.aspx) - Import file/addon for gathermate.  This means that all known resource nodes will be visible as waypoints in cartographer (these can be toggled off, or just turned on depending on your professions etc, so they never get in the way)  Once the data has been imported in-game into gathermate this addon can be removed.

Routes (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/routes.aspx) - Takes waypoints created by gathermate in cartographer and has a pretty good go at the travelling salesman problem, i.e. draws a route for you that takes in all the nodes you specify using the shortest distance possible.


Using all these together you can end up with something like this http://mediabeta.curse.com/Curse.Projects.ProjectImages/14599/10781/pvw19594.jpg , with the route visable on both the main and minimaps


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: SurfD on November 11, 2008, 06:45:45 PM
One addon I found invaluable was Rating Buster, which was a "stat breakdown" mod that added stats info to item tooltips.  It could be configured to show any combination of info on any stat on a piece of gear or other item.   It would also compare stats on a piece of gear you moused over vs whatever you currently had equipped in that slot.
It also did a very good job of accounting for the effects of talents and whatnot on different stats, for example any talent that increased your intellect by an amount, or your base stats, or your +heals, etc.

So, for example, you could mouse over a trinket with +defense on it, and find out exactly how much +block / parry / dodge you were gaining, and how that compared to your currently equipped trinket.

It also did food, potions and most consumables, so i could mouse over +agility food, and find out how much Crit and AP it gave me in Cat form on my druid.

Unfortunately, i think it is currently a little broken for many classes with the new changes to Agility calculations for dodge and things like that.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Fabricated on November 11, 2008, 07:45:47 PM
Best "low impact" mods (shit that doesn't require a lot of out-of-the-box configuring and needs its own minimap button):

RatingBuster: Fucking amazing, as mentioned converts ratings into raw percentages, and lets you very easily compare equipment.

Quartz: It changes your castbar but it's not too dramatic of a change. It looks nice, has a lot of options, and best of all has a lag timer and swing-timer so you can easily cast spells or abilities smoothly. It'll save your ass in those "If I could've just cast X one more time I would've lived!" situations.

Cartographer: being able to have your map open while moving is really really nice.

Prat: It has an insanely daunting amount of options but just the default set up makes your chat experience way better. Sticky channels, history, color coding for names so you can for example see whatever anyone mentions your name, etc etc.

DoubleWide: Makes your quest log two pages. Very nice.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: DraconianOne on November 12, 2008, 02:08:49 AM
Gatherer: if, like me, you're a lazy arsed bastard, you can get a db for this with data from WoWhead which shows all the nodes for you rather than populating the db yourself. Very useful for levelling up in a hurry as you can see where the nodes are.

Cartographer2 - I used to use this up until 3.0.2 becuase it was as good as people said. Also, you can get further plugins that show all the resource nodes a la Gatherer. But since 3.0.2 I've found it hasn't played well with the system and the guy is no longer supporting it because he's developing Cartographer3 which is an admittedly clever attempt to give Google Maps like functionality to the ingame map.  But fuck that shit, I don't want to know. I don't seem to be currently using a map addon but might go back to Atlas.

Fizzwidget's Levelator - shows levels on quests. Never needed more than that when it comes to questing so don't use any other quest addon. (Am willing to be convinced otherwise but there we go)

DOTimer - I'm a lock - can't live without this. Could learn to use it better though

Fubar - with money and location addons. Used to have the XP addon as well as the Clock addon before that became part of the UI.

Bankitems - very helpful if you have lots of alts as shows what every alt has in banks, mail, bags etc. Also adds info to tooltips so you can see how much Timbermaw rep items you're hording all over the place. :P

Auctioneer package (Including the enhanced tooltip addon) - obvious one.  Also use Enchantrix part of package for predicting sale value of enchant mats etc.



**Addons I have had previously but haven't been bothered to find since the 3.0.2 patch**

RecipeBook / ProfessionsBook - shows the recipes for each tradeskill that your alts have so if you find one, you know if you need to buy/sell it.
RecipeRadar - shows what recipes are available to be bought in the zone you're in.

Then there's another recipe mod which highlights which recipes are sold on vendors and how much for so that when you see them on the AH for 5 times the price, you know not to buy them unless you're super lazy and super loaded. (Or, as in my case, highlight recipes which some mug bought and then auctioned for less than the vendor price. Thanks pal!)

ExperienceFu - shows XP info about your character on Fubar.




Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: K9 on November 12, 2008, 02:37:36 AM
RatingBuster: Fucking amazing, as mentioned converts ratings into raw percentages, and lets you very easily compare equipment.

Quartz: It changes your castbar but it's not too dramatic of a change. It looks nice, has a lot of options, and best of all has a lag timer and swing-timer so you can easily cast spells or abilities smoothly. It'll save your ass in those "If I could've just cast X one more time I would've lived!" situations.

Cartographer: being able to have your map open while moving is really really nice.

Prat: It has an insanely daunting amount of options but just the default set up makes your chat experience way better. Sticky channels, history, color coding for names so you can for example see whatever anyone mentions your name, etc etc.

DoubleWide: Makes your quest log two pages. Very nice.

Agree with most of these two.

On a related note, Atlasloot is the most annoying mod, bar none.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Dewdrop on November 12, 2008, 07:39:47 AM
I was always a big Cartographer guy but the most recent version just killed me. It hogs alot of resources for something that i use to track herbs/mining nodes and to clear the fog. I switched to Mapster as a result. Its not as sexy, I guess, but its lightweight and does all the stuff the old Cart used to do.

Additionally: (most of these mentioned before)

Prat - Great chat mod
Bartender4 - Latest version is a god send.
Recount -
SimpleMiniMap - Ace2 Minimap mod - super light weight
Elk's Buff Bars - Much better than default buff/debuff icons
Omen - Took some effort to get the visuals on the new version where i wanted them, but its super accurate now.
Gather-Mate and Gather-Mate Data - works great with Mapster


Started using a new mod called Questhelper after getting rid of TomTom and Lightweight (or w/e its called) and love it. Its the first questing mod that has actually helped speed up the process. Its a total resource hog but its one that's worth it. Interfaces well with Mapster as far as directing you to quest objectives, etc.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: kildorn on November 12, 2008, 07:47:46 AM
Man, I <3 atlasloot.

I randomly pick between grid/clique and healbot depending on my mood this week (seriously, blizzard? ur raidframes suck)

Beyond that I'm using bartender at the moment for bars, I used to use xperl. And Omen and Bigwigs, just so Ingmar doesn't hit me.

I stopped running a damage meter, but I probably should again just for my own breakdown on what spells make up what percent of my healing.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: K9 on November 12, 2008, 07:49:36 AM
As a healer I find Omen pretty useless tbh.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: kildorn on November 12, 2008, 07:52:38 AM
I liked the breakdowns of how much of each was overheal, how much time I spent casting what on each fight, and now seeing how well I'm leveraging Rapture.

As for ing's love of the base UI for raid healing: man, fuck that. Please to update more frequently, display range more accurately, and display debuffs with a color code for what type they are. I like to know if something's magic, poison, or disease so I know how to instantly react to it when they pick fucked up icons like rend's icon on a disease.

edit: whoops, mixed omen up

I run threat meters for the tank's mental health. I never actually have them displayed. It makes the tanks feel better to see everyone's threat status it seems.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Koyasha on November 12, 2008, 08:11:16 AM
I run threat meters for the tank's mental health. I never actually have them displayed. It makes the tanks feel better to see everyone's threat status it seems.
This is no longer necessary (at least with Omen) as it takes all data from the internal threat data sent by the servers.  Everyone who has threat will appear on the threat meters of those displaying them, whether they have a mod installed or not.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Xanthippe on November 12, 2008, 08:35:47 AM
I use the Auctioneer package, Gatherer (which is a recent addition for me - it's usefulness is limited for me because I already know where most stuff spawns), Omen, Prat, Questhelper (extremely useful if you don't mind spoilers), Capping (for battlegrounds, gives timers on when things cap), FishingBuddy, Bejeweled.

I haven't found a bar mod that I like particularly more than the normal one.

I would love to have a farming mod that tells me how much of what I've gotten since I last reset it - cloth, gold, whatever I'm looking for.  I used to use FarmerFu but it's no longer being updated.

I'm somewhat unhappy with new Auctioneer.  I prefer the old one for buying/selling but it's no longer being supported.  It was a much cleaner easier interface - of course, it did a whole lot less, but some of us don't need to do a whole lot more.  Now it's bloatastically full of features.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: ClydeJr on November 12, 2008, 09:14:10 AM
I like Altaholic. It keeps track of all your characters skills, professions, equipment, bags, and bank, as well as the guild bank. Its especially nice if you have a bank alt. Another nice thing is that when you mouse over an item, it will put in the tooltip the quantities you have on that item on any character (and if its in the bags or bank) or in the guild vault.

I like the Mounted addon that will randomly pick a mount for you to use. It will pick flying mounts in Outland and ground mount in Azeroth. When my shaman goes into combat, it switches to trigger my ghost wolf ability.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Xanthippe on November 12, 2008, 09:45:51 AM
I found a neat macro that picks a random pet out (companion pet, that is).

It goes like this:

/script CallCompanion("critter",random(1,GetNumCompanions("critter")))

(I just got Stinky, but still don't have all the pets - missing the expensive whelps.  Got them for my daughter when they were cheap but don't want to spend 1500g on them now).


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Chimpy on November 12, 2008, 04:53:42 PM
Mapster + Gather_Mate is like.....20x better than cartographer. Cartographer got super bloated, Mapster is nice and lightweight.

As far as bars go....Bartender4 is ok, but I am probably going to switch to Dominoes tonight (a bar only mod made by the guy who wrote Bongos).

I still like my Pitbull unit frames, but I will probably be rebuilding my UI based on OpenRDX once I get some time at 80.



Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: OcellotJenkins on November 12, 2008, 05:46:37 PM
The main addons I use have pretty much already been llsted, however for resource harvesting I also use the combination of the following:

Cartographer (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/cartographer.aspx) - As someone mentioned above, better maps, removal of fog and waypoint compatibility.

Gathermate (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/gathermate.aspx) - Similar to Gatherer, it stores all resource nodes you come across and can display them in cartographer

Gathermate Data (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/gathermate_data.aspx) - Import file/addon for gathermate.  This means that all known resource nodes will be visible as waypoints in cartographer (these can be toggled off, or just turned on depending on your professions etc, so they never get in the way)  Once the data has been imported in-game into gathermate this addon can be removed.

Routes (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/routes.aspx) - Takes waypoints created by gathermate in cartographer and has a pretty good go at the travelling salesman problem, i.e. draws a route for you that takes in all the nodes you specify using the shortest distance possible.

Using all these together you can end up with something like this http://mediabeta.curse.com/Curse.Projects.ProjectImages/14599/10781/pvw19594.jpg , with the route visable on both the main and minimaps

Bless your heart, these sound awesome.  Downloading now.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: DraconianOne on November 13, 2008, 02:50:35 AM
I like Altaholic. It keeps track of all your characters skills, professions, equipment, bags, and bank, as well as the guild bank. Its especially nice if you have a bank alt. Another nice thing is that when you mouse over an item, it will put in the tooltip the quantities you have on that item on any character (and if its in the bags or bank) or in the guild vault.

BankItems does this too - as well as show what's in the mail box of each alt.

Doess Altaholic show whether an alt knows a certain recipe or whether they can learn it if you look at the item tooltip?  If it does then it could be the package I'm looking for as most of my addons are to make my alt management easier.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: ClydeJr on November 14, 2008, 11:01:37 AM
BankItems does this too - as well as show what's in the mail box of each alt.

Doess Altaholic show whether an alt knows a certain recipe or whether they can learn it if you look at the item tooltip?  If it does then it could be the package I'm looking for as most of my addons are to make my alt management easier.
I think Altaholic also checks your mail, although don't quote me on that.

It does keep track of recipes as well. The other night someone asked if anyone had some spare bars of iron. I did a search for iron on all my characters and it came back with the all the items that had iron in the name as well as "Smell Dark Iron" and the various Dark Iron recipes on my miner/BS.

I'm pretty sure it does the tooltip thing where it says who knows the recipe or who could learn it.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: SurfD on November 14, 2008, 11:55:01 PM
It does monitor mail (even has a setting to warn you when mail gets to a certain threshold of expiry date), and it seems to keep track of tradeskills, though i am not sure how much deapth it does with that.

Only thing irritating me so far, is i can not find an easy way to remove a character from its database, as i deleted one of my bank alts to make way for a new DK and it still lists him there.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Rasix on November 17, 2008, 02:23:39 PM
Wow, it looks like Bongos was abandoned like 5 months ago.  Time to try bartender I guess.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Gobbeldygook on November 18, 2008, 12:02:06 AM
Wow, it looks like Bongos was abandoned like 5 months ago.  Time to try bartender I guess.
Bongos wasn't abandoned; it was remade as Dominos.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Kageru on November 18, 2008, 10:48:05 PM

And dominos seems to be pretty good. I like mods that keep it simple and don't try to do too much.

MetaHUD was mentioned earlier and I liked that mod, being able to get rid of the group frames (since I'm using grid for that) gained me a lot of screen space and less things that would lead to a mouseover cast. It's not being maintained though so I've switched to IceHUD which is fairly similar.

For enhance shaman "ShockAndAwe" is very good, organizes all your cooldowns. Clique is good for mapping events to actions.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Xanthippe on November 21, 2008, 06:08:16 AM
For people who use Questhelper, this one is even better.  It's not, however, for people who do not want spoilers.

Carbonite
http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/carbonite-quest.aspx (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/carbonite-quest.aspx)


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Signe on November 21, 2008, 06:18:11 AM
Thanks, Xanthi!  This is much better!  (http://www.realitybbqforums.com/images/smilies/Yay.gif)

It's cold and snowing and I don't feel like doing anything today.  I might play games ALL FUCKING DAY!  Until my fingers fall off.   I'll take off a little bit of time to make soup though.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Reg on November 21, 2008, 10:48:42 AM
Is having your fingers fall off a common problem for you zombies? Or am I mixing you up with lepers again?


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Signe on November 21, 2008, 12:19:32 PM
NO SOUP FOR YOU!


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Rasix on November 21, 2008, 01:04:42 PM

And dominos seems to be pretty good. I like mods that keep it simple and don't try to do too much.


Any problems in WOLK? I've heard of problems with vehicles.  Not systemic, but a few of the vehicles either behave oddly or just don't work with Dominos.  I'm not completely sold on Bartender4 although it's a lot better than I remember that addon to be.

Uggg, Carbonite and QuestHelper.  Each did things I disapproved of and took up nasty amounts of memory. I can't remember if it was Carbonite or QuestHelper that did all of the funky map coloring.  While helpful, it got bothersome.   Need something cleaner, although I imagine I'll get one of them once I've got my first 80.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Signe on November 21, 2008, 01:43:24 PM
I think it might have been Carbonite.  I just had a look at my world map and it looks like the Easter Bunny had a nasty accident all over it.  I'm hoping I can turn that bit off.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Sheepherder on November 21, 2008, 08:58:15 PM
My brother uses Questhelper.  It's candy-coated crap as well.

Also, it appears to be bugged and give freakish directions, like taking a detour through Menethil Harbor via Stormwind to get to the other side of Northrend, or giving you directions to go right through an area you have quests in to get somewhere else without suggesting you kill the quest mobs you are plowing through to get there.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Ralence on November 21, 2008, 10:25:24 PM
MetaHUD was mentioned earlier and I liked that mod, being able to get rid of the group frames (since I'm using grid for that) gained me a lot of screen space and less things that would lead to a mouseover cast. It's not being maintained though so I've switched to IceHUD which is fairly similar.

Awesome!  Thanks for that, having the CP's in the middle of my screen on my rogue was a huge help, and I've been without MetaHUD since the patch before the expansion, and it sucks trying to watch the top of the screen while moving and trying to PVP!



Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Venkman on November 22, 2008, 09:26:13 AM
I've been messing with both Quest Helper and Carbonite 2 lately. Both worked fine for me, though I think QH incurs slightly more resources which may impact older systems.

QH's difference is that is has the marching ants thing that shows the optimal path from wherever you are through all of the current quests you have. It's weakness is that you still need to use Blizzard's crappy track quest UI, or for me, MonkeyQuest which I've been using since before Blizzard added that feature.

Carbonite's difference is the Google Maps-inspired large and small maps, the back-channel link it creates with all other Carbonite users, and the integration with it's own (still-weak) quest tracker. I was surprised to see a whole bunch of moving dots when I first launched it with a bunch of names I didn't know. I've long since become reliant on it for PUG elite fights.

I am going to stick with Carbonite for a bit. The map manipulation tools are just pure luv. And I don't really want quest optimization advice until I work my DK through the same Northrend stuff I'm doing first on my Mage.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Signe on November 22, 2008, 10:54:55 AM
I'm sticking with Carbonite, too.  It's better than the other one and, yeah, I'm really enjoying the map tools!


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Le0 on November 24, 2008, 06:45:33 AM
Does carbonite contain all quests? because I went to their website and noticed that *gasp* you gotta pay for it to be complete otherwise you have a trial version.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Venkman on November 24, 2008, 07:29:59 AM
Carbonite 2 has contained everything I've needed so far. Not sure what site you hit, but no way would the AddOn last if they were going to charge you for the basics (every single quest, map, icons on map). Are you sure you're getting the right one? Here's the one I've been using (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/carbonite-quest/download/310979.aspx).

On the topic of AddOns in general, I'm having an issue.

Some quests adjust your UI to give you specialize abilities (rescueing civilians with that gryphon in Wintergarde/whatever-that-town-is on the east end fo Dragonblight, the DK quest where you ride the mine cart to the ships and use the cannon to nuke the beach force). Both times I've gotten "An AddOn has caused an error". And both times upon completion I've had to "/console reloadUI". Here's my addons:

Carbonite 2
CTMod
MonkeyQuest

I'm thinking it's CTMod but I don't know what part. Could be the bars part, which means I should probably just forget CTMod for the one reason I need it and switch to Bartender. But I like the ViewPort mode too (so I can leave black the both 15% of my screen for the button bars). I can always just pick up ViewPort alone.

Anyone else have this experience?


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Gorky on November 24, 2008, 07:56:01 AM
Carbonite 2 has contained everything I've needed so far. Not sure what site you hit, but no way would the AddOn last if they were going to charge you for the basics (every single quest, map, icons on map). Are you sure you're getting the right one? Here's the one I've been using (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/carbonite-quest/download/310979.aspx).

On the topic of AddOns in general, I'm having an issue.

Some quests adjust your UI to give you specialize abilities (rescueing civilians with that gryphon in Wintergarde/whatever-that-town-is on the east end fo Dragonblight, the DK quest where you ride the mine cart to the ships and use the cannon to nuke the beach force). Both times I've gotten "An AddOn has caused an error". And both times upon completion I've had to "/console reloadUI". Here's my addons:

Carbonite 2
CTMod
MonkeyQuest

I'm thinking it's CTMod but I don't know what part. Could be the bars part, which means I should probably just forget CTMod for the one reason I need it and switch to Bartender. But I like the ViewPort mode too (so I can leave black the both 15% of my screen for the button bars). I can always just pick up ViewPort alone.

Anyone else have this experience?

The most likely culprit would be any bar mods. Are you using any? the next most likely would be any unitframe mods, and CTMod would come under that. Make sure the version you are using is compatible with v3.x.x (WotLK).

This also applies to those errors when you 'take over' a mob or vehicle like the special buttons not appearing.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Venkman on November 24, 2008, 08:09:36 AM
Ok cool. In exploring this I grabbed Bartender 4 anyway. Man what a nice setup. MUCH easier to configure than CT. So regardless of how this turns out, I'm sticking with Bartender.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Numtini on November 24, 2008, 09:32:50 AM
There is a pay version of carbonite. (http://www.carboniteaddon.com/) The core quest stuff is free, there's a bunch of additional map enhancements in the paid version.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: MrHat on November 24, 2008, 10:49:38 AM
What was that one that let you drop healing/buffing/spells right next to the unti frame?

Basically, click on Lesser Healing Wave button next to Party Person 2, and it heals party person 2 without changing your target.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Venkman on November 24, 2008, 11:59:28 AM
There is a pay version of carbonite. (http://www.carboniteaddon.com/) The core quest stuff is free, there's a bunch of additional map enhancements in the paid version.

Wow never saw that before. Not that there'd be any way I'd ever pay for it, but is anything they offer fundamentally better than what could be done through a patchwork of existing AddOns?


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Tale on November 24, 2008, 12:00:31 PM
As a returning player, I suggest thoroughly investigating the existing Blizzard UI before adding anything. Many things that used to require addons have been added to the default UI.

The only thing I've added so far is Outfitter because I'm playing a druid and it automatically switches between sets of equipment depending on which form I'm in.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Merusk on November 24, 2008, 03:05:42 PM
Get one of the loot-sell addons, outfitter and Auctioneer and you're golden for almost any non-raiding, "I don't give a damn about optimizing my playstyle" character. 

speaking of loot-sell addons, anyone have better one than sell-o-matic? It works great for greys, but I'd like one that I can add useless white items like Fish Oil, light feathers and scales to.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Drubear on November 24, 2008, 10:34:10 PM
I use Garbage Fu http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5301-FuBar-GarbageFu.html - don't use all the bells and whistles tho so YMMV.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Ozzu on November 25, 2008, 03:17:31 AM
The mods I use:

Cartographer -  Maps! It's been outlined here already, but it is mega-nice and it's hard to go back to not using it once you get used to it.

CTMod - I specifically use the basic package and also the unit frames portion. The best part of it is the mail mod. Lets me mass mail things or open all my mail and retrieve attachments with one click. The unit frames are very basic compared to some mods, but I just find the other mods too busy.

Auctioneer - Best mod ever. Everyone knows what auctioneer is.

Gatherer - It's useful. It's probably not as useful for me as it would be for others. I don't specifically go out looking to just gather stuff. So, unless it crosses my minimap and my tracking skill picks up a node, I'm not going out of my way to check nodes. Still, it's useful.

ZygorGuide - It's a leveling guide. It saves time and has a nifty little arrow pointing me where to go and distance. The entire thing is in-game. One thing I do like about it though is that I've leveled characters without it and when I started using it, it led me to areas I never explored without it. It also advances to the next step automatically when you complete the step that you're currently on.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Le0 on November 25, 2008, 03:59:51 AM
What was that one that let you drop healing/buffing/spells right next to the unti frame?

Basically, click on Lesser Healing Wave button next to Party Person 2, and it heals party person 2 without changing your target.

I don't know the name of the addon you are looking for but I might have an alternative solution.

Back when I still played my restoration shaman I used the Grid + Clique commando. Grid basically shows your raid/party/thing as a nice set of square displaying the health of the players, it can also displays poison/debuff as a little icon in the edge of the square. And clique lets you cast spell from a combination of key + click(like shift+left clique = less heal, right clique = big heal etc..) Then you can simply cast heal on the player by doing your mouse combo + cliquing on the square of the player you wanna heal. Super efficient and no need to manually target anymore.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Merusk on November 25, 2008, 04:09:12 AM
I use Garbage Fu http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5301-FuBar-GarbageFu.html - don't use all the bells and whistles tho so YMMV.


Since it says "FU" I assume this requires FuBar, which (although I didn't mention it) put it right out of the picture.  I have one mandate regarding mods: Do not install any that modify action bars/ bar layout.  That's what fucks-up people 99% of the time on patch days such that they say, "Man I can't play at all because my mods are broken."  What they really mean is, "Fuck I'm back to the standard layout and I have no fucking clue how to play using the base UI."

Thanks tho.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Numtini on November 25, 2008, 04:13:43 AM
I can understand that and I think you're right, though I can't remember being sidelined for more than a night due to that. However, Fubar doesn't change anything about the standard unit frames or ability buttons, it just adds a narrow bar on the bottom or top for you to put helpful icons in rather than attaching them to the minimap. It's one of the things you can live without until its patched up.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: DraconianOne on November 25, 2008, 04:26:16 AM
I concur - Fubar doen't modify action bars or buttons like Bartender or Dominos does.  It's just an information panel.  I use it to show location, co-ordinates, money, ammo/soul shards (more effective than bag count), xp rate (when I install it).  I don't use any action bar altering mods.

Yet.

The only mod that I find it hard to live without on a patch day is Informant which shows how much trash and items will sell for.  Only important when turning in quests and none of the items are ones I can use or want so I go for the one that will get me most money. It hasn't been updated for WotLK yet so I just go for plate stuff mostly.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Selby on November 25, 2008, 05:30:22 AM
I have one mandate regarding mods: Do not install any that modify action bars/ bar layout.  That's what fucks-up people 99% of the time on patch days such that they say, "Man I can't play at all because my mods are broken."  What they really mean is, "Fuck I'm back to the standard layout and I have no fucking clue how to play using the base UI."
I laugh when this happens.  Also, I still don't use any real mods, so essentially I can play with the default UI on any computer anywhere and not have an issue.  Much more versatile in my opinion.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Merusk on November 25, 2008, 06:13:55 AM
Ah, so FuBar is an updated & expanded Titanbar.  I'd been under the impression it was a full bar mod, particularly since folks I know who used Bartender and the like always indicated they prefer it to FuBar.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Signe on November 25, 2008, 06:27:22 AM
I'd give up the game before I'd give up my mods.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Nija on November 25, 2008, 07:20:52 AM
If you play on a PVP server, try out the pay to play version of Carbonite. It's like cheating.

edit: I guess I'll say why I think it's cheating.

You know all those dots you see on the free version of carbonite? Those are other people running the free version of carbonite. If you run the full version of carbonite, you'll connect to their servers (or whatever, I'm not sure how it works really) and it mines data from the people running the free version.

So I can fly into a zone and I'll start getting red dots appearing on the zone map that tell me an enemies name and a timer counting down to the last time someone came within loading distance of this guy. It pulls data from people on your server also running carbonite, but it's limited to just the zone that you are in in regards to the 'enemy populating' feature.

Also, if an enemy is near me, and his graphics are loaded on my client (but i'm not necessarily looking at him) his name will appear on a "Punks" list and i can click that to target him. If he is close enough to target, it'll tell me his class on that punks list. Then I can send my pet at him, and follow my pet to figure out exactly where he is.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Draegan on November 25, 2008, 08:00:49 AM
LOL Really? 

I use a shit load of addons.
Quartz
AG_uf
Bartender
Auctioneer
Omen
Recount
MagicRunes
CowTip
ChatMOD
EquipCompare
RatingBuster
TitanBar + Extensions
Cartographer
QuestHelper
DeadlyBossMods
SCT
SCTD
Gatherer (or something similar to it)

That's all I can think of.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: DraconianOne on November 26, 2008, 02:08:34 AM
Ah, so FuBar is an updated & expanded Titanbar.  I'd been under the impression it was a full bar mod, particularly since folks I know who used Bartender and the like always indicated they prefer it to FuBar.

It's an alternative to Titan that uses the ACE2 framework. There was a theory that it was less of a memory hog but some geek did an analysis of the memory usage and found they were comparable.  The only reason I changed from Titan to Fubar was because I was using other ACE addons (like Cartographer etc.)


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: JWIV on November 26, 2008, 05:08:13 AM
Guys, seriously.

Thanks for this thread.   :heart: 

The wife finally got me to agree to go back to WoW after a 2+ year hiatus (I quit before Burning Crusade after hitting massive levels of burnout between gearing up for bullshit raids).   I threw the addons onto my machine and they are sweet.  Cartographer alone is sex on wheels as it may as well be a permanent sign of - THIS WAY TO FUN.




Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: apocrypha on November 26, 2008, 08:13:14 AM
FuBar is hacking me off atm, specifically several plugins that just won't work properly for me now for some reason. the _Exp, _Rest and _Durability ones all say they should work on their respective pages but just don't.

Starting to fear that a WDB & WTF clearout may be on the cards, but with 2 accounts, 2 PCs and lots of chars that's a lot of settings to re-do  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: JWIV on November 26, 2008, 08:15:31 AM
I aslo use FuBar its a great one!!

Why have we not banned this trash yet?   :mob:


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Lum on November 26, 2008, 08:37:56 AM
ZygorGuide - It's a leveling guide. It saves time and has a nifty little arrow pointing me where to go and distance. The entire thing is in-game. One thing I do like about it though is that I've leveled characters without it and when I started using it, it led me to areas I never explored without it. It also advances to the next step automatically when you complete the step that you're currently on.

This costs $50. A free addon which does the exact same thing is here: TourGuide (http://www.tekkub.net/addons/TourGuide).


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: ahoythematey on November 26, 2008, 08:41:05 AM
My guild mentioned a mod called Big Wigs that can play FF fanfares after killing bosses and shit(my char names are FF-themed stuff like Tonberry and Megalixir).  I looked at the feature list though, and that seems like too much shit for me just because I want some incidental musical cues, so has anybody used it and can testify to it not being a UI burden, or maybe point me out an alternative?

Also, Trinket Menu.  I love it.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Lum on November 26, 2008, 08:44:56 AM
BigWigs is extremely helpful for boss encounters - if you ever hear a raid leader calling out when boss sequences are about to fire, it's because he's running BigWigs and it's tracking timings on his screen. And yes, it does the "dah dah dah duh dah dah" fanfare when you down a boss. But that's not exactly its main purpose.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: ahoythematey on November 26, 2008, 08:48:03 AM
It'll be my main purpose for it, I don't anticipate ever going near Lady Vashj again.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Merusk on November 26, 2008, 09:13:11 AM
Neither does anyone who isn't after the achievement.  :grin:

There's mods out there for what you want, I just can't recall the name of them.  My wife had one that played the FF7 chocobo track music whenever you mounted.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: DraconianOne on November 26, 2008, 09:20:25 AM
A free addon which does the exact same thing is here: TourGuide (http://www.tekkub.net/addons/TourGuide).

Might have to look at this. Can you exclude certain types of quests with it? I'm trying to powerlevel some RAF accounts and want to find nice easy quests that don't involve gathering items that have an abysmal drop rate unless it's a precursor to a quest chain that rocks.  (Most of The Barrens hunting quests are like this - Centaur Bracers and Zhevra Hooves are right out!)  Basically, FedEx and kill quests or 100% drop rate gathering quests are what I want.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Morfiend on November 26, 2008, 03:30:10 PM
I'm looking for an updated addon for one like Theorycraft, that will put the real damage and healing on the tooptips and ability descriptions. Also will tell me in % how much the stats account for like 40 crit rating (1.2% crit).

I used to love Theorycraft, but it hasnt been updated since 2007.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Rasix on November 26, 2008, 03:48:58 PM
I'm looking for an updated addon for one like Theorycraft, that will put the real damage and healing on the tooptips and ability descriptions. Also will tell me in % how much the stats account for like 40 crit rating (1.2% crit).

I used to love Theorycraft, but it hasnt been updated since 2007.

DrDamage (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/dr-damage.aspx) for updated tooltips (I used this a while back, don't care anymore).  Also, RatingBuster can tell you crit% for individual pieces of gear and other relevant ratings are already broken down in the default UI or maybe it's just because I have RatingBuster installed.  Don't know.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Lum on November 26, 2008, 05:29:15 PM
AFAIK DrDamage has not yet been updated for WOTLK. At any rate it doesn't work on my DK!


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Morfiend on November 26, 2008, 05:58:49 PM
AFAIK DrDamage has not yet been updated for WOTLK. At any rate it doesn't work on my DK!

It has been updating Lum, but I just checked the notes:

Quote
Supports all classes, excluding Death Knights



Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Gorky on November 27, 2008, 12:59:22 AM
I'm looking for an updated addon for one like Theorycraft, that will put the real damage and healing on the tooptips and ability descriptions. Also will tell me in % how much the stats account for like 40 crit rating (1.2% crit).

I used to love Theorycraft, but it hasnt been updated since 2007.

DrDamage (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/dr-damage.aspx) for updated tooltips (I used this a while back, don't care anymore).  Also, RatingBuster can tell you crit% for individual pieces of gear and other relevant ratings are already broken down in the default UI or maybe it's just because I have RatingBuster installed.  Don't know.

The tooltips showing the various stat conribtutions in % is RatingBuster. It's been updated for WotLK and it even takes into account talent modifiers (for example, on my hunter with the INT to RAP talent, it correctly calculates the amount of RAP I gain from an item with int). I dont know how I managed to gear up without it before. It's especially useful now with the LK gear upgrades you come across.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Draegan on November 27, 2008, 01:38:02 PM
A free addon which does the exact same thing is here: TourGuide (http://www.tekkub.net/addons/TourGuide).

Might have to look at this. Can you exclude certain types of quests with it? I'm trying to powerlevel some RAF accounts and want to find nice easy quests that don't involve gathering items that have an abysmal drop rate unless it's a precursor to a quest chain that rocks.  (Most of The Barrens hunting quests are like this - Centaur Bracers and Zhevra Hooves are right out!)  Basically, FedEx and kill quests or 100% drop rate gathering quests are what I want.

http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=14471


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Draegan on November 27, 2008, 01:38:44 PM
Oops.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Numtini on November 27, 2008, 03:01:54 PM
I'm very fond of Jame's guide (no link, google it) which with questhelper is very very fast and efficient.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: SurfD on November 27, 2008, 03:07:59 PM
I aslo use FuBar its a great one!!

Why have we not banned this trash yet?   :mob:
What exactly is wrong with fubar?  Its a "Widget Tray" type mod, that lets you chose an assorted selection of custom done plugins to drop on your tray for quick access to LOTS of useful information.

That, and MANY major mods include plugins for Fubar / Titan panel that allow instant access to options menus.

About the only problem i have ever run into with Fubar is the tendancy to overload the bar with WAYY too many plugins, but that can easily be solved by just carefully selecting the best of the bunch, and finding ones that combine the functionality of many individual plugins into one.

I only have about 6 Plugins on my bar, and  probably couldn't live without my durability and SkillsPlus plugins. 


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Reg on November 27, 2008, 03:27:33 PM
I assumed that he wasn't talking about the mod but about the newbie who posted a message that apparently didn't fit his terribly, terribly high standards.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Kail on November 27, 2008, 03:30:59 PM
I assumed that he wasn't talking about the mod but about the newbie who posted a message that apparently didn't fit his terribly, terribly high standards.

Unless I missed the green, I think this was the guy with the RMT link in his sig, was it not?


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Reg on November 27, 2008, 03:37:00 PM
Hah, could well be.

Edit: Yup, same guy. Dopey me.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: DraconianOne on November 28, 2008, 01:16:18 AM
Poor Reg - you must be convinced that we all hate n00bs with a passion.  :pedobear:


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: DraconianOne on November 28, 2008, 01:17:48 AM
http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=14471

Thanks.  I found this last night after having the brainwave of doing a search on DB for TourGuide figuring someone might have done it.  Now all I need is to find someone who's done a list of all quests that reward Undercity faction too.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: ClydeJr on December 01, 2008, 12:54:45 PM
BigWigs is extremely helpful for boss encounters - if you ever hear a raid leader calling out when boss sequences are about to fire, it's because he's running BigWigs and it's tracking timings on his screen. And yes, it does the "dah dah dah duh dah dah" fanfare when you down a boss. But that's not exactly its main purpose.
There's also LittleWigs which does the same thing except for 5-man dungeons.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Merusk on December 01, 2008, 02:18:19 PM
Or Deadly Boss Mods which does it for everything, plus battleground timers.  I believe ORA does this as well, plus timers for your whole group's cooldown. (No more, "hey who has a battle rez/ soulstone up?")  The latter would be much better if I were running a 2-screen layout, though.  It sucks up a LOT of realestate for all the bars.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Chimpy on December 01, 2008, 10:42:36 PM
SellJunk



Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Soulflame on December 02, 2008, 04:42:34 PM
What I use:

Grid + Clique.  Grid's been covered, so I won't go into that.  Clique allows you to set actions to be performed to the target under your mouse.  Invaluable for healing, at least for myself.

Gatherer.  Notes resource nodes on the map gathered by you, your guild, and groups/raids.

Auctioneer.  I could wish there was a better tool for this, but this is what there is.

Recount.  So I know who's doing how much DPS while I heal them.

Omen.  Paladin healer, this isn't all that useful.  If I'm pulling threat, my tank is doing it wrong.

Deadly Boss Mods.  I like this for the warnings given.  Eagle is about to cast Storm!  Whee.

I added Classtimers last night, not sure if that one is going to survive.  It throws up bars that display time remaining on various things.  I'll probably mainly use it to let me know that Bacon of Light is about to give out on the tank.    :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Driakos on December 03, 2008, 05:19:48 AM
I broke down and tried out Quest Helper and Tomtom tonight.  Leveling character number two, to 80.  It feels like cheating.  They are that good.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Dren on December 03, 2008, 10:26:59 AM
I've enjoyed WoW way more since adding Quest Helper.  No more getting lost or looking for that foozle you need for that quest for 15 minutes.  It also stops me from having to go across a zone 100 times because I didn't know the 5th quest I took is 5 miles behind me...

Yeah it takes some mystique out of the game, but that is a very fair trade IMO.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Slayerik on December 03, 2008, 10:35:34 AM
For hunters and that tracking talent: http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=6617

TrackThat!


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Montague on December 03, 2008, 10:46:45 AM
Add me as one who thought they'd never use a quest mod, but I'm using Carbonite. Muay impressed.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Rasix on December 03, 2008, 11:04:06 AM
Carbonite still have it's goofy ass map?

I'm thinking of breaking my "no quest addon until 80" rule.  I spent a lot of time wandering around like an idiot last night. Some quest directions are really terrible.





Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Montague on December 03, 2008, 11:14:42 AM
Carbonite still have it's goofy ass map?


Yeah, but I like it for the Indiana Jones feel when I'm on a gryphon  :drill:


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Nija on December 03, 2008, 11:35:51 AM
Carbonite still have it's goofy ass map?

I'm thinking of breaking my "no quest addon until 80" rule.  I spent a lot of time wandering around like an idiot last night. Some quest directions are really terrible.

Goofy? How else would you do it and make it easy to glance at to tell which quest has shit to do where? 500 shades of gray?

You can default it to not shade the map to tell you where you'll find the objective of the quest you're on, but if you do that then what's the fucking point?

The point of carbonite is giving you a BAD GUY list that automatically populates when bad guys come near, so you can click there, send your pet at them, and gank them before they gank you. That is of course unless they're running carbonite and found you that way.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Merusk on December 04, 2008, 04:06:08 AM
I'm thinking of breaking my "no quest addon until 80" rule.  I spent a lot of time wandering around like an idiot last night. Some quest directions are really terrible.

Worse than Terrible, some of them are completely wrong.   The Alliance quest that tells you where to find the Wrathgate says to go to the north east part of the zone. One of my guildies spent an hour wandering around trying to figure out what the hell he was doing wrong.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: DraconianOne on December 04, 2008, 05:21:26 AM
Worse than Terrible, some of them are completely wrong.   The Alliance quest that tells you where to find the Wrathgate says to go to the north east part of the zone. One of my guildies spent an hour wandering around trying to figure out what the hell he was doing wrong.

It probably started when he rolled Alliance

Seriously - that's not a mistake. It's just cunning misdirection by the Horde.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Slayerik on December 04, 2008, 05:44:33 AM
Wow, whoever posted Quest Helper is my new hero. Blows lightheaded out of the water.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Drubear on December 04, 2008, 06:20:16 AM
Wow, whoever posted Quest Helper is my new hero. Blows lightheaded out of the water.
Sad to say, I run both. LH is most helpful showing you the WoWHead commentary "I solo'd this with my T6 gear!" "Ya you ponce, no doubt. We needed a 3 man team." Since I normally duo on my Rogue along with my partner playing his 'lock, it helps us decide how/if to do the group quests.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Vash on December 04, 2008, 12:33:18 PM
After initially using Quest Helper, then switching to Carbonite, I was shocked at how much of a resource/memory hog Quest Helper is compared to how light and compact carbonite is to run.  Carbonite has it's own custom world map that replaces the default one and scales down into a 2nd mini-map that's fully zoomable.  The only thing it lacks in comparison to Quest Helper is an algorithim that tries to calculate the most efficient route between all your available quests.

I wish carbonite was simply integrated into the default world map and mini-map becuase gather-mate doesn't work with it's custom maps, then it would be perfect.  I don't mind not having a route making algorithim since I can make my own efficient routes easily enough with all the quest locations clearly marked, so having a quest mod that consumes a ton more resources/memory for that feature alone isn't worth it to me.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Rasix on December 04, 2008, 12:59:29 PM
I wish carbonite was simply integrated into the default world map and mini-map becuase gather-mate doesn't work with it's custom maps, then it would be perfect. 

There's apparently Gatherer integration in the paid version. Heh. Anyone got any sort of gathering mod working with Carbonite?


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: MrHat on December 05, 2008, 05:55:25 AM
Wow, whoever posted Quest Helper is my new hero. Blows lightheaded out of the water.

Sorry.

Worth quoting.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: bhodi on December 08, 2008, 06:56:13 PM
I've been using the triple threat TourGuide (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/tourguide.aspx), TomTom (http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7032-TomTom.html) and LightHeaded (http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html). They work pretty well, but aren't exactly compatible with quest helper - use one or the other. I haven't been COMPLETELY thrilled tourguide; it's OK but seems to miss a few decent quests here and there. Also, you can't start it in the middle of a zone, you need to come into a zone fresh, and it's got almost no wrath data at the moment.

Other cool addons:
Free Refils (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/free-refills.aspx) - auto-buy and restock items you define like drink and arrows
Garbage Fu (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/fu-bar_garbage-fu.aspx) - One-click to auto-sell grey vendor trash. THIS IS AWESOME. GET IT!


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Venkman on December 08, 2008, 07:53:32 PM
I like both Quest Helper and Carbonite, but prefer the latter. The only thing that bothers me is that I REALLY want to be to click an area on the big or small map, and if it's linked to a quest, to open the quest window. I hate the default quest log. It is inadequate to the task. And forget the default quest tracker. What I want is to have Carbonite link to MonkeyQuest. Because I said so. And because maybe I could figure out with a year of work ;-)


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Rasix on December 08, 2008, 10:24:09 PM
I've been using Quest Helper.  The stuff I'd want from Carbonite, I'd have to pay for and I like how QH uses the in game map.  QH works with Mapster/GatherMate also.  Mapster has a few bugs that are a tad annoying (Dalaran floor selector isn't placed properly).  I haven't noticed a whole lot of issues with QH being as much of a hog as before.  Still a tad bloated, but I don't have a lot of bells and whistles turned on.

I'm really liking not being lost all of the damn time.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Lum on December 08, 2008, 10:37:47 PM
Auctioneer.  I could wish there was a better tool for this, but this is what there is.

Try this one, it's Auctioneer with the fat trimmed away:

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/auctionlite.aspx


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Dren on December 09, 2008, 05:39:12 AM
I'm really liking not being lost all of the damn time.

I've said it before, but I'm going to emphasize this again.  I especially like it for my altitis.  Normally I have to spend 15 minutes just figuring out where I was in quest lines and where I needed to be.  Now, I can hop onto any of my characters and start having fun/progressing immediately. 

I won't go without one of these add-ons again.  In fact, for any new MMO that comes out, I'll be expecting that much more for organization and directional guidance.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Venkman on December 10, 2008, 08:20:30 AM
I'd have to pay for and I like how QH uses the in game map.
I can't really figure out why I should pay for Carbonite premium. What does QH have that Carbonite relegates to for-pay status? Right now it works for me in that I only need the two-sized maps, the area highlights and the arrow. Last night I took a quest in Silverbrook that wasn't in the database but otherwise it's recognized everything.

Just wondering what I'm missing in QH.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Rasix on December 10, 2008, 08:32:15 AM
I'd have to pay for and I like how QH uses the in game map.
I can't really figure out why I should pay for Carbonite premium. What does QH have that Carbonite relegates to for-pay status? Right now it works for me in that I only need the two-sized maps, the area highlights and the arrow. Last night I took a quest in Silverbrook that wasn't in the database but otherwise it's recognized everything.

Just wondering what I'm missing in QH.

Do you use any sort of gathering addon?  Most of the pay stuff doesn't look like something I'd use.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Venkman on December 10, 2008, 08:47:14 AM
Back in the day I used Gatherer, Enchantrix and Auctioneer. Nowadays I'm really just a questor. I'll probably need  Auctioneer again at some point, since at 74 I don't envision a time when I'll have the 5k for the epic flyer :-)

Otherwise, yea, the only for-pay feature I'd even use would be the enhanced quest log. But it doesn't piss me off enough that I have to use the default log to look up a quest I see as an icon on my map.

Which is funny because people are bitching about design philosophies driving microtransacations in general MMO. This is a perfect case in point. And there's nothing wrong with that imho.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: ironic on December 10, 2008, 01:32:15 PM
Put that tape rule down and  Align (http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6153-Align.html) your custom frames perfectly.

Simple Raid Target Icons (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/simple-raid-target-icons.aspx) is a god send for those that like to mark things.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Venkman on December 10, 2008, 08:03:13 PM
Bartender auto-snaps :-)


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Oz on December 11, 2008, 07:31:21 AM
Question.  any of you guys using comix-the return?  i downloaded this upon a friend's recomendation.  Gives the game a certain silly funness to it.  (well except for the damn boing sound effect, but i just turned that off).


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Merusk on December 11, 2008, 08:35:19 AM
Back in the day I used Gatherer, Enchantrix and Auctioneer. Nowadays I'm really just a questor. I'll probably need  Auctioneer again at some point, since at 74 I don't envision a time when I'll have the 5k for the epic flyer :-)

At 74 you should have made ~2k gold already. I know I had by that time on my Death Knight, and I was amazed.  I'm sitting at 4k gold from quest rewards (according to the achievement tracker) at 80, and I have 2.5k on my person.  I don't gather mats on the DK and I know I'd have more gold if I did dailys and didn't keep buying gems and enchants as I upgrade my gear.  Buying Epic Flying, CWF, the DK death-chicken and every spell/ ability post-75 costing me 36g to train didn't help me financially, either.

 As a Mage who isn't looking to raid in the endgame you shouldn't have *too* much problem hitting 5k by 80.  Be judicious in your gear upgrades, only doing it from quests or instance drops.  Don't replace things at every point.  There's a lot of Boots and Gloves and bracers, so upgrade then don't do it again for the next few levels even if one rewards IS an upgrade at that point.  Instead pick the plate or shield reward and sell it off for the cash.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Ratman_tf on December 11, 2008, 09:16:38 AM
Auctioneer.  I could wish there was a better tool for this, but this is what there is.

Try this one, it's Auctioneer with the fat trimmed away:

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/auctionlite.aspx

Hotshit! I just want to get price information about stuff I'm selling. Auctioneer Advanced is just too cumbersome lately.



Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: DraconianOne on December 12, 2008, 10:20:48 AM
Back in the day I used Gatherer, Enchantrix and Auctioneer. Nowadays I'm really just a questor. I'll probably need  Auctioneer again at some point, since at 74 I don't envision a time when I'll have the 5k for the epic flyer :-)

Depends on where you are now and where you'll think you'll hit 80.  My understanding is that there is a fuck load of gold to be made from the last few Northrend zones alone if you quest at 80. More than enough for an epic flyer. I'm in a similar boat - at 73 and have gone back to do some Netherstorm/SMV quests for extra XP so that I will ding 80 sometime shortly after Dragonblight I reckon (working on the fact that I'm 73 and only half way through Howling Fjord with a couple of hours in Borean Tundra to my credit too). Failing that, sell Chilled Meat for cooking dailies or any stuff you do actually gather.

Back on topic, I use Gatherer which is a pretty good addon with the plus side that it's regularly updated and you can import a pre-populated db of resource nodes taken from WoWHead.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Ingmar on December 12, 2008, 11:06:53 AM
I want to say the statistics thingy showed me having made about 6k gold going 70-80? That might include some time before the expansion hit and some quests after I hit 80. That also includes selling quest loot as I'm not a disenchanter on my main, but I also basically had no rest xp that entire time. If you're rested, you'll end up making more in the long run, because you'll get the bonus gold for doing quests after you hit 80.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: MrHat on December 12, 2008, 12:15:57 PM
I want to say the statistics thingy showed me having made about 6k gold going 70-80? That might include some time before the expansion hit and some quests after I hit 80. That also includes selling quest loot as I'm not a disenchanter on my main, but I also basically had no rest xp that entire time. If you're rested, you'll end up making more in the long run, because you'll get the bonus gold for doing quests after you hit 80.

Provided you go back and do quests at 80 rather then quit because you're bored :0D


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Dren on December 15, 2008, 07:35:35 AM
I want to say the statistics thingy showed me having made about 6k gold going 70-80? That might include some time before the expansion hit and some quests after I hit 80. That also includes selling quest loot as I'm not a disenchanter on my main, but I also basically had no rest xp that entire time. If you're rested, you'll end up making more in the long run, because you'll get the bonus gold for doing quests after you hit 80.

Provided you go back and do quests at 80 rather then quit because you're bored :0D

Broken record here, but this is important for me.  This is the first time where I've gotten a character to max level where I am enjoying post-80 at least as much or MORE than getting there.  I'm a major altaholic so this is saying a lot for me.  I'm looking forward to taking each of my characters through ALL of the quests.  The use of phasing has single handedly done this for me.  That, and all the cash baby!  I'm rolling in it now, which makes enjoying the game that much easier.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: El Gallo on December 15, 2008, 08:07:11 AM
I am a big fan of Carbonite + Sexymap.  I can set my minimpap via Sexymap to be a HUD that lightly overlays my screen with resource nodes, !s, and ?s and still have a visual minimap via Carbonite.  I found I missed a lot of ore/herbs because I wasn't looking at the actual minimap that often.




Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Xerapis on December 15, 2008, 01:17:03 PM
Dude, the minimap is like my rear-view mirror. I check that thing every 5 seconds!

Minor complaint about Mapster. It just reveals the whole map? I prefer something that shades the areas that I haven't explored yet so I know where I still need to look around, get discovery xp, that kinda thing. Not black-fog-of-war, just some nice grey-shading so I can see all the stuff but still know where I have and haven't been.

Personally using:

QuestHelper
Bayli's Extended Quest Log
AuctionLite
FishingBuddy
Mapster
GatherMate

Thinking about swapping GatherMate out for Gatherer. Mostly because I seem to remember Gatherer actually showing, for example, specific mining results (number of times you've mined there, what stuff you got from the vein).


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Koyasha on December 15, 2008, 01:56:37 PM
Mapster has the option to tint your map instead of just reveal it.  Go to your interface, addons, mapster, and fogclear, and set a color for your Overlay Color.  It'll tint undiscovered areas whatever color you set.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Xerapis on December 15, 2008, 02:44:03 PM
Oh, that's awesome. Thanks man. I'll have to jump in and do that once I get home. Guess I should have tried to check into it, I just would have expected it to be on by default. Maybe everyone else thinks the opposite.  :grin:


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: SurfD on December 15, 2008, 05:18:53 PM
Pretty sure most map mods have this option.  All it really is doing is allowing you to change the colour / transparency values on the "fog of war" on the map.

I know cartographer does it.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Xerapis on December 15, 2008, 06:58:20 PM
Yeah, I had used Cartographer before, and when I used it, it defaulted to have the unexplored areas translucent. So when Mapster didn't do that, I just thought it didn't have that option. That's what I get for just posting about it at work instead of checking.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: WindupAtheist on December 16, 2008, 01:20:44 AM
I need a mod that gives me map coordinates and NOTHING ELSE. I don't need some meandering shitpile that replaces my map with a 3d rotatable zooming clusterfuck while plotting out a giant "THIS IS WHAT A BOT WOULD DO" path for me to follow so I can level 12% faster without having to pay any attention to WTF I'm doing. I just. Need. Coordinates.

Fuck. I'm hating this whole mod scene already after one search.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: DraconianOne on December 16, 2008, 02:26:04 AM
DMiniCoords (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/dmini-coords.aspx) might be what you want.  Personally I use "locationFu" plugin for FuBar which does similar (as well as show quest levels, level appropriate instances, other questable zones etc in a mouseover tooltip)

re: Gatherer.  Yes it does show history of successful gathers and stats for nodes.  It also has an optional db import from wowhead and an optional HUD display module for giving you a, well, HUD. I'm not that keen on the HUD personally - I don't mind flipping to the main map to see locations of all the nodes but an onscreen overlay just makes it feel cluttered. YMMV.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Chimpy on December 16, 2008, 10:10:20 AM
I need a mod that gives me map coordinates and NOTHING ELSE. I don't need some meandering shitpile that replaces my map with a 3d rotatable zooming clusterfuck while plotting out a giant "THIS IS WHAT A BOT WOULD DO" path for me to follow so I can level 12% faster without having to pay any attention to WTF I'm doing. I just. Need. Coordinates.

Fuck. I'm hating this whole mod scene already after one search.

Mapster by itself will do that. As well as not making your map take up the whole screen when you open it. All the other things like gathering nodes etc are not part of it. You can even make the fog of war exactly like blizzard's default so you can't see places you have not explored.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Merusk on December 16, 2008, 11:02:43 AM
Tom tom does it as well, I believe.   I know it gives you a nice window on the main UI for coords so you're not always tabbing to the map and back.  Titanbar will show coords on one of the bars, but I don't know if it adds it to the map as well.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Phred on December 16, 2008, 11:28:24 AM
I use an ancient mod called idminimap that has the loc printed where the current clock is docked by blizzard. It also allows you to zoon in and out on the minimap with the mouse wheel while over it, something WoW should do by default, dammit.
This mod is dated 2006 but none of blizzard's changes since then have broken it, which is nice because it was abandoned about the time I got it. Because of the changes to the minimap frame it makes it seems to be immune to Blizzard's taste defying choices like the huge calendar icon, etc. A google can pick up a copy of idMinimap somewhere stuck away. I found it on an ace archive.



Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: chargerrich on December 16, 2008, 12:58:44 PM
Must have mods for me:

X-Perl
Quest Helper
Dominoes
Mapster
Fubar
Recount
Deadly Boss Mods
Quickmark
Squeenix
Minimap Button Mod
Omen
Feed it (for hunter)
Necro (for lock)
Healbot (for healer)
Elkbuffs

Speaking of mods... does anyone else have issues in Dalaran? Things seem to go haywire in there, graphics and mods. Perhaps some code tightening is needed?


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Merusk on December 16, 2008, 03:02:11 PM
I don't have issues with Mods, just with Dalaaran loading slow.  There's too damn much in a really tight area, then you add-in the avatars and it all goes to shit. The whole city is smaller in plan than any of the previous cities, and there's more model detail going into that small area.  It takes me a good 2-3 mins to fully load in there while it takes maybe 20-30 seconds to load anywhere else.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: K9 on December 16, 2008, 03:53:00 PM
I think the persistent notion of having only a single tiny hub for all players is one of the grosser oversights of WoW design. Both Dalaran and Shatt lag me out something crazy, unlike IF which only lags when I fly in on a bird, ad even then only for a couple of seconds. Saturday afternoon in Dalaran is hell. Ideally when Ulduar comes, all the Silver Covenant and Hand of Vengeance people (vendors, cooking daily quest givers, portals, battlemasters and all) shift out to two new faction-specific camps.

I doubt it will happen though.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Dren on December 17, 2008, 08:51:59 AM
I avoid Dalaran like the plague due to performance issues.  Yes, I could take off add-ons before I go there to make it better, but that is a huge PITA.  I'm just fine EVERYWHERE ELSE.  Even without most of my add-ons active it is like moving in molasses there.  I've done zero exploring there due to this and I know I'm missing out too.

This is exactly the problem IF used to have.  They didn't have quite the issue in Shattrah (slow load on NPCs only really.)  Now it is back again.

It would be wonderful to have an alternative place to go for using a bank.  That is really all I'm missing in the game right now.

At least BC had two spots...


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: ClydeJr on December 17, 2008, 09:08:47 AM
I imagine the Dalaran size-wise is smaller than Shatt was. So you have even a higher density of players than in Shatt. I really hope if/when they make a new expansion, they make a central city for each side. At times I think the one giant sanctuary city is somewhat silly. Plus seeing all the gnomes running around and not being able to set a single one on fire is such a shame...


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Drubear on December 17, 2008, 09:23:22 AM
At least BC had two spots...
I think it's the density as well, vs. the actual city models. (You'd think with all the corners there'd be less of an issue.)

And if by "spots" you mean 2 banks - there are 2 in Dalaran above-ground as well. Not to mention the one in the Underbelly. If you don't need portal access, just bind down there and only come "up" when you have to fly out.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Dren on December 17, 2008, 09:32:29 AM
At least BC had two spots...
I think it's the density as well, vs. the actual city models. (You'd think with all the corners there'd be less of an issue.)

And if by "spots" you mean 2 banks - there are 2 in Dalaran above-ground as well. Not to mention the one in the Underbelly. If you don't need portal access, just bind down there and only come "up" when you have to fly out.


I really meant in other cities.  Yes, I would still like access to the portals, but once I hit 80 that is very little.  Vendors are everywhere and I can train my professions at the two different newb towns.  All I'm missing is a bank that is easy to get to without reloading/lag every 10 steps.  I just play the minigame of inventory management for as long as I possibly can stand it and then I bite the bullet to go clean up at the bank.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Merusk on December 17, 2008, 09:39:39 AM
In the past few days I've taken to keeping my hearth set near Dalaran but doing all my business in one of the old world capitals.  I can join /lfg or battlegrounds just as easily from IF as I can from Northrend and summoning stones mean I can avoid that shithole until I have to spend badges or turn in dailies.   Putting more polygons in less space is always a bad idea, and Dalaran loves the curves.



Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Sheepherder on December 19, 2008, 12:49:13 AM
Putting more polygons in less space is always a bad idea, and Dalaran loves the curves.

IMO Shattrath is worse for curves (any debug/framerate options you know of that output vertice count?).  The big probem is it's really freaking small and multi-level, so the vast majority of players will be within view distance and thus will be memory resident.  To compound matters from what I can see Blizzard uses a cell system to manage loading, similar to Oblivion (but with smaller cells), and a common characteristic of such systems is that they only use the (X,Y) plane and not (X,Y,Z), so all the shit under Dalaran like trees, rocks, and foozles are likely memory resident even if they are farclipped.  You'd have to log memory usage while playing if you want to put my theory to the test, but it seems consistent with what I see.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Dren on December 19, 2008, 05:38:34 AM
To compound matters from what I can see Blizzard uses a cell system to manage loading, similar to Oblivion (but with smaller cells), and a common characteristic of such systems is that they only use the (X,Y) plane and not (X,Y,Z), so all the shit under Dalaran like trees, rocks, and foozles are likely memory resident even if they are farclipped.  You'd have to log memory usage while playing if you want to put my theory to the test, but it seems consistent with what I see.

My guess is that is necessary.  It would not be beneficial to be flying and not know there is an herb/mining node just under you.

I did log out and shut down some Add-ons last night so I could get around Dalaran better last night.  It made a huge difference and moving was bearable.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Drubear on December 19, 2008, 06:09:14 AM
I did log out and shut down some Add-ons last night so I could get around Dalaran better last night.  It made a huge difference and moving was bearable.
In all fairness, if I'm in Dalaran I can't login with my full complement of addons. I typically have to turn off WoW Econ at the very least to even logon. ( I think there is a lot of server update requests that go out for various reasons - items/friends/whatever - and I just lag out.)


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Hayduke on December 23, 2008, 08:28:03 AM
I stopped using Gatherer and started using Gathermate.  It's a lot cleaner on the map and minimap which I like.  Plus you can download the data pack and import a database to get a bunch of node locations in zones.  Questhelper was kind of helpful for leveling up, but I prefer to rely on alt-tabbing since it's more reliable.  And once I hit 80 I chucked it.

I'm also using TellMeWhen to show a large popup of one of my short duration buffs so I can remember when to recast it.  I actually would like something a little more elegant like a buff fading warning, but haven't really looked at that.  Other than that I use pretty much all the standard stuff (natur, deadlybossmods, quartz, x-perl, sct, bar4)


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: bhodi on December 23, 2008, 08:55:39 AM
I stopped using Gatherer and started using Gathermate.  It's a lot cleaner on the map and minimap which I like.  Plus you can download the data pack and import a database to get a bunch of node locations in zones.  Questhelper was kind of helpful for leveling up, but I prefer to rely on alt-tabbing since it's more reliable.  And once I hit 80 I chucked it.
If you're more into alt-tabbing, use LightHeaded which is pretty much just user-added comments about the quest (http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html), and then use TomTom for the 'go here' arrow at the bottom of the screen and map markers. I also like how it lists if the quest is a chain, other quests in it - you can skip to the bottom quest to see if you'll even get an item that you can use / is worth it. Look at the screenshots.

You open your quests and a new window pops up on the side, you can arrow through comments, and someone inevitably has put location markers for the quest locations which you can click on and they just show up on your map. I like this, in particular for confusing locations - if it's tricky, the steps to do it are always in the comments.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Sheepherder on December 24, 2008, 09:37:55 AM
my guess is that is necessary.  It would not be beneficial to be flying and not know there is an herb/mining node just under you.

Because people have enough trouble finding ore with horizontal cell partitions in place.  :awesome_for_real:

Also, link. (http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=2580#comments:id=284739)

Specifically on the topic of Dalaran, there is no reason to not have a (X,Y,Z) format for cells, or at the very least manually partition it with 2D planes and zone info actors like you see in almost every shooter since Unreal (possibly before that, but UnrealEd was my first editor in a 3D game).


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Hayduke on December 24, 2008, 08:58:58 PM
I stopped using Gatherer and started using Gathermate.  It's a lot cleaner on the map and minimap which I like.  Plus you can download the data pack and import a database to get a bunch of node locations in zones.  Questhelper was kind of helpful for leveling up, but I prefer to rely on alt-tabbing since it's more reliable.  And once I hit 80 I chucked it.
If you're more into alt-tabbing, use LightHeaded which is pretty much just user-added comments about the quest (http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html), and then use TomTom for the 'go here' arrow at the bottom of the screen and map markers. I also like how it lists if the quest is a chain, other quests in it - you can skip to the bottom quest to see if you'll even get an item that you can use / is worth it. Look at the screenshots.

You open your quests and a new window pops up on the side, you can arrow through comments, and someone inevitably has put location markers for the quest locations which you can click on and they just show up on your map. I like this, in particular for confusing locations - if it's tricky, the steps to do it are always in the comments.


Thanks for the tip, installing now.  I don't really do alts too often, but I'll give it a shot if I do.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: apocrypha on June 05, 2009, 06:11:11 AM
NNnnnnecrotastic!

Can anyone recommend a good replacement for Squeenix? It still works fine but it's not being updated any more and I get all OCD when the Curse client flags it as unrecognised.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Xeyi on June 05, 2009, 12:15:54 PM
NNnnnnecrotastic!

Can anyone recommend a good replacement for Squeenix? It still works fine but it's not being updated any more and I get all OCD when the Curse client flags it as unrecognised.

Try Sexymap (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/sexymap.aspx)

Works great for me.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Draegan on June 05, 2009, 12:38:43 PM
I love Sexymap.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: apocrypha on June 06, 2009, 01:02:49 AM
That looks good, thanks folks.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: chargerrich on June 11, 2009, 09:07:26 AM
Must have mods for me:

X-Perl
Quest Helper
Dominoes
Mapster
Fubar
Recount
Deadly Boss Mods
Quickmark
Squeenix
Minimap Button Mod
Omen
Feed it (for hunter)
Necro (for lock)
Healbot (for healer)
Elkbuffs

Speaking of mods... does anyone else have issues in Dalaran? Things seem to go haywire in there, graphics and mods. Perhaps some code tightening is needed?

-1 for quoting myself?  :grin:

I have made some changes to my mod setup and have been very happy. Here is what I think is the ULTIMATE mod loadout:


XPERL Unit Frames - Pitbull is more customizable and probably more "pro" but Xperl is familiar now, does what I need it to do and I do not want to learn PB.

Dominos - Tried Bartender, it is certainly nice too, but dominos seems just as functional and is less of a memory hog.

Titan Bar - Switched from FuBar on a whim and actually like it better. They are both nice but I am partial to Titan.

Sexy Map - I love this map mod. It allows far more customization and given that I have been on a custom UI kick as of late, this really fits the bill. Best mini map available IMO.

SCT - Scrolling Combat Text. Once you use it you cannot go back to anything else.

Recount - Really a standard for raiding.

Gear Score - As a raid leader this is a god send. Not only does it score guildies, raiders, random people it has a command line search and will even ping others in your "database" to gather a score. For instance type /gs charactername and it will pull the score if you have it or from other guildie, party member that has it if you do not. Note that the scores are not the same "formula" as say wow-heroes. A 4000 gear score is IMO a minimum Ulduar ready score. Also while GS does account for enchants, it does not seem to score for gems. Finally there is even a plug in for recount too. Nice.

Chatter - Far and away the best chat mod for wow IMO. VERY VERY customizable and just solid.

Elkanos Buff Bars - Simple, customizable and just nice. Again with my desire to customize my UI its nice as it lets me get the look and feel I want.

Move Anything - Love this little mod. Lets me do just that... move anything, character windows, /lfg, spellbook, clock, minimap, etc.

SunnArt - Allows for a custom dashboard background (lower portion of screen). Kind of complicated at first, but allows for a seriously cool looking interface.

Deadly Boss Mod - The Standard. If you are raiding and do not have this, then you are at a SERIOUS disadvantage. I have to think that 95% of all serious raiders have this.

Omen - I use it but I seem to never really "use" it anymore. It is light weight so...



Class Specific

Healbot - Healing
Feedit - Hunter
Pallpower - duh
Necosis - Lock
ShamWoW - Shaman


Ditched:

Fubar - just like titan better. Fubar is good
Mapster - Back to bloated cartographer. If you have the memory Cart is better and i do so...
Mini Map Button Mod - Had issues with this always working right and the titan plug in does it better so its gone.
All fishing mods (fishermans friend and fishing buddy) - Just are not worth the time atm. I am only 315 so maybe once I max it I will load one up again.
Arc Inventory - This is a mod that makes something simple, more complicated. I do not doubt its power but I will take bagnon for simplicity.
Census Plus - As a guild leader I like a census program but this one is not re-sizable so it takes up most of 1900x1200 screen. Anyone got a better census mod?
Skinner - Having conflicts with it so turned it off ><
Quartz - love the look but really in the end, the standard dominos bar is perfect for my setup. Do I really need a pet casting bar?

I have other smaller mods running (about 81 in total with plugins) but thats the big ones (I am sure I am forgetting a few).








Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: SurfD on June 11, 2009, 12:21:12 PM
I am beginning to think that i may need to find an alternative to Scrolling Combat text, since it has officially been dropped by the author who made it (he stopped playing and has no intention of updating it, so eventually something is going to break it for good)


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Ingmar on June 11, 2009, 12:25:12 PM
I am beginning to think that i may need to find an alternative to Scrolling Combat text, since it has officially been dropped by the author who made it (he stopped playing and has no intention of updating it, so eventually something is going to break it for good)

Just use the built-in SCT?


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: dd0029 on June 11, 2009, 12:26:52 PM
When the SCT guy moved over to Warhammer, I switched to Mik's Scrolling Battle Text.  Its not as nice, imo, as sct but it has some interesting features to recommend it over the built in scrolling.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: K9 on June 11, 2009, 04:34:30 PM
I'm using Parrot, it's a very good combat text addon imo.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Merusk on June 11, 2009, 05:16:46 PM
Tankspot offers up that one that Ciderhelm uses in all of their videos.  I'm thinking of adding that instead of the default UI SCT, because the SCT is always interfering with my ability to see if I'm standing in shit or on a rune.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Draegan on June 12, 2009, 08:27:50 AM
I use Mik's scrolling combat text as well.  It's much better than SCT.  It just takes longer to set up but you can do a lot more with it.


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Phred on June 14, 2009, 08:43:57 AM

All fishing mods (fishermans friend and fishing buddy) - Just are not worth the time atm. I am only 315 so maybe once I max it I will load one up again.

Fishing Ace is what you want. Very lightwieght. Does everything useful from Fishing Buddy without all the annoying crap you end up turning off. Basically it lets you right button cast, will auto-lure and "enhance" sounds and that's about it.

I'd suggest losing the pet feeding mod and either giving your pet the talent that lets him gain happiness when he attacks or use the glyph that gives him happiness when you heal him. Either way, I don't remember the last time I fed my pets. The glyph is probably the better choice, though if you raid with your hunter Bloodthirsty is a prereq for the pet self rez which can be invaluable. . It's really hard to find 3 useful minor hunter glyphs.

Since the recent patch changes to the screen panel that show's quest info I've been looking for an improvement over Blizz's usual half assed revamp. Maybe someone can help me. What I'd like would be something like the quest display that Qhelper gives you, without all the back end crap choking up my system. I like it compact but still readable, (tried FU_Quests but that was too tiny a font with no way to adjust it. Being able to pop up the spell book by clicking the quest names would be a nice b onus too. Anyone found anything like this? The blizzard one would be a lot more tolerable if it actually disabled it's own taking actions when disable mouseover was checked but I"m getting really tired of the drop down menu showing up whenover I right button click over that area of my screen


Title: Re: Suggested Addons
Post by: Malakili on June 14, 2009, 10:08:11 AM
I've gone a bit lighter on the mods recently than I used to, but I am currently using the following:

Bartender
X-Perl
Quartz
Titan Panel
SCT
Druid Bar (obviously class specific)
Auctioneer
Deadly Boss Mods
Recount

I think that about covers it.  Xperl, Quart and Bartender and the main UI mods that affect the way important things like action bars and unit frames appear on my screen, and I am quite happy with them, though X-perl can be a bit of a resource hog, if you have an older system.