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Title: wtfhax?
Post by: WindupAtheist on October 29, 2008, 09:07:53 PM
I sat on Scryer's Tier and watched a guy go from 38 to 53 without moving, just ding ding ding ding ding. Screenshot of the same guy getting the level 40 and level 50 achievements just a moment apart.

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/GrimDysart/wtflevel.jpg)

How can I get what he has?  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: lamaros on October 29, 2008, 09:29:48 PM
recurit a friend gifted levels.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: schild on October 29, 2008, 09:38:14 PM
Gifted levels?


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Calantus on October 29, 2008, 09:43:14 PM
Through the recruit a friend promotion. When the friend account levels a character through it they get some gift levels they can give to a character on your account. It lets you do stuff like this:

(http://www.calantus.com/images/wow/calida61.jpg)


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on October 29, 2008, 09:48:42 PM
Gifted levels?

in the recruit a friend program for every two levels your character earns you can grant one of your friends characters a single level. So say you and a friend level together to 60 with the exp bonus, you can then grant your friends new alt 30 levels(up to 60)


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: WindupAtheist on October 29, 2008, 10:50:36 PM
But... but... it's an MMO! Getting levels is supposed to require cramming your dick in a meatgrinder so that you know you've EARNED it! Didn't anyone read Blizzard the rules?!

(Seriously though, that's awesome.)


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: apocrypha on October 30, 2008, 12:21:29 AM
Yeah it rocks, I'm only going to have time to (hopefully) get 1 pair of chars on my RAF linked accounts before it expires which means I'll have 30 levels I can give to any of my chars under 60. I've got this level 28 warrior just waiting for insta-58 :p


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: ahoythematey on October 30, 2008, 01:03:05 AM
Awesome my motherfucking ass.  I don't have any friends left who aren't playing WoW already or aren't completely unwilling.  Quick, somebody be my friend!


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: DraconianOne on October 30, 2008, 02:52:15 AM
Awesome my motherfucking ass.  I don't have any friends left who aren't playing WoW already or aren't completely unwilling.  Quick, somebody be my friend!

I'll be your friend.




For a fee.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: WindupAtheist on October 30, 2008, 05:16:29 AM
(http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/hoe-1272.jpg)


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Ironwood on October 30, 2008, 06:38:17 AM
Wow.  It's like the sidekicking thing I always dreamed of.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Arthur_Parker on October 30, 2008, 06:41:57 AM
Fuck, that's awesome.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: DraconianOne on October 30, 2008, 07:18:57 AM
(http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/hoe-1272.jpg)

That sort of kinkiness definitely costs extra!


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Nonentity on October 30, 2008, 08:53:54 AM
In addition to gifted levels, you also get the 3x xp from kills AND quests when you are grouped and in close proximity of the recruit-a-friend account.

I am doing this deal with a friend of mine to get some characters leveled - he leveled one character to 60 while I was at work, while dual-boxing my other character, and then I ran two of our characters through instances all the way to 60. He self-leveled a third character to 60, so on my recruit-a-friend account that I bought, I can turn 3 of his level 30 characters into level 60.

So, for probably the amount of effort it would take to get one character to 60, I will have 3 level 60s, and he will have 6 level 60s.

Loving it.

 :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Mrbloodworth on October 30, 2008, 09:16:02 AM
New accounts only?


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Merusk on October 30, 2008, 09:19:30 AM
Yes, the recruit-ed has to be a new account.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Selby on October 30, 2008, 09:20:36 AM
So... anyone willing to bet when complaints arise from douchebags leveling all the way to 60 without really playing the game and have zero clue how to play their characters?  Or would it not be any different than it is now? ;-)


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Merusk on October 30, 2008, 09:25:53 AM
It wouldn't really be any different.  The game plays so fast that even though you have a "max level" character it does not mean you are in any way shape or form GOOD at that class.  Fuck, even at 70 there were tons of hunters still using Aimed Shot instead of Steady because "it does more damage, dood!" Pallies who didn't pass out blessings because "they wear off too quick and they don't do that much" or my favorite, the rogues who could never, ever sneak up to sap a mob without aggroing the whole group.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Selby on October 30, 2008, 09:27:22 AM
the rogues who could never, ever sneak up to sap a mob without aggroing the whole group.
Always my favorite.  We used to kick rogues out of group for fucking up sap\sneak pulls more than 2 times (especially since I played a rogue and know how to do it right!).  Nice to see nothing has changed ;-)


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Dren on October 30, 2008, 12:18:29 PM
the rogues who could never, ever sneak up to sap a mob without aggroing the whole group.
Always my favorite.  We used to kick rogues out of group for fucking up sap\sneak pulls more than 2 times (especially since I played a rogue and know how to do it right!).  Nice to see nothing has changed ;-)

I'm amazed that is such a problem.  That has got to be my favorite part of being a rogue because it is so ... roguish.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Mrbloodworth on October 30, 2008, 02:23:53 PM
Yes, the recruit-ed has to be a new account.

Bummer.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Sjofn on October 30, 2008, 02:48:37 PM
They announced this right after I had successfully addicted my sister to the game. I was Not Happy.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Fordel on October 30, 2008, 02:50:32 PM
So... anyone willing to bet when complaints arise from douchebags leveling all the way to 60 without really playing the game and have zero clue how to play their characters?  Or would it not be any different than it is now? ;-)

Leveling speed has very little to do with people "not getting" their own class. If anything at all.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Koyasha on November 01, 2008, 01:08:17 PM
So... anyone willing to bet when complaints arise from douchebags leveling all the way to 60 without really playing the game and have zero clue how to play their characters?  Or would it not be any different than it is now? ;-)
Any reasonably intelligent person who is willing to spend a little time learning about their class can be handed a level 70 and be competent within a week.  People lacking in those qualities will never be any good regardless of how long they spend leveling up.

Plus the gifted levels are for the recruiting account, not the recruited.  The supposed newbie still has to level up, albeit at 3x speed assuming their benefactor levels up an alt with them.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: WindupAtheist on November 01, 2008, 03:07:01 PM
I used to be the head newb-teacher in this UO guild a couple years ago that was recruiting toddling newbies right out of newbtown and training them for "endgame" like a factory. (Scripting up skills FTW!) Teaching them how to actually play the game was no big deal, and late-era UO with it's layers of weird expansions and ancient interface probably has a steeper learning curve than most games, and even then they were pretty easy to train. These games aren't really that hard outside of maybe the upper echelons of PVP.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Triforcer on November 02, 2008, 01:25:33 AM
(http://borkweb.com/wp-content/upload/WTF_hax.jpg)


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Ralence on November 02, 2008, 03:49:44 AM
These games aren't really that hard outside of maybe the upper echelons of PVP.

You'd love to think that, but honestly, with the amount of drooling idiots that I've encountered lately, either there is a giant influx of complete morons, or I'm just really lucky on finding the giant blob of them all in a short period of time.

Telling the DPS that you're not going to heal them, so they need to control their aggro really is NOT a difficult task, I've even had true new players tell me they didn't understand, and I point them to Omen threat meter, and they say "thank you".  I don't mind teaching people if they ask.  It's the idiots that die 5 times and then I have to just boot them from the group that bothers me so much.  Or the "let the tank pull" logic, I'm pretty sure it's the easiest way in any given PUG, but that hunter needs to prove he can do it too!  Or the rogue who loves to start off each mob with CS, the list is endless.

You'd think for something that really is so easy, people wouldn't make it so hard.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: ahoythematey on November 02, 2008, 03:57:30 AM
I'm pretty sure that every PUG I've been a part of that had at least one hunter in the group resulted in mostly wipes.  I don't understand why Hunters in particular are typically the dumbest fucking people that play this game, but they are and because of it I don't ever group with them if I can help it.

I really do think it boils down to the classic axiom: the worst problem with most MMOs is the players, and unfortunately for us, WoW is the biggest of bunch.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: K9 on November 02, 2008, 04:59:21 AM
You'd love to think that, but honestly, with the amount of drooling idiots that I've encountered lately, either there is a giant influx of complete morons, or I'm just really lucky on finding the giant blob of them all in a short period of time.

Telling the DPS that you're not going to heal them, so they need to control their aggro really is NOT a difficult task, I've even had true new players tell me they didn't understand, and I point them to Omen threat meter, and they say "thank you".  I don't mind teaching people if they ask.  It's the idiots that die 5 times and then I have to just boot them from the group that bothers me so much.  Or the "let the tank pull" logic, I'm pretty sure it's the easiest way in any given PUG, but that hunter needs to prove he can do it too!  Or the rogue who loves to start off each mob with CS, the list is endless.

You'd think for something that really is so easy, people wouldn't make it so hard.


People do learn though. In my current guild over the last 9months most of the players have come on leaps and bounds. It's mainly when they realise that it's less hassle in the long run if they do simple things, like not standing in the fire, or mages decursing the tank. There used to be a time when I had to prod our MT to use thunderclap and heroic strike, now he moans at me for not keeping up as he chain pulls packs of 5+ mobs.

When levelling solo people often ignore so much of their toolset, and that takes time to learn when you hit max level. Some people (mainly hunters, sorry guys) never learn though.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Merusk on November 02, 2008, 05:38:27 AM
I'm pretty sure that every PUG I've been a part of that had at least one hunter in the group resulted in mostly wipes.  I don't understand why Hunters in particular are typically the dumbest fucking people that play this game, but they are and because of it I don't ever group with them if I can help it.

Because it's an incredibly easy class to just "play" but damn tough to play WELL. You can be an idiot and do ok at straight DPsing, but you're never going to understand being aware of mobs around you, pet pathing, don't multi-shot around CC'd mobs, dropping traps where and when, etc.   The prejudice you just expressed is yet another reason I stopped playing a hunter with 3.0. It's just not worth it anymore and *I* also found myself hating the other players of the class.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Shrike on November 02, 2008, 08:27:10 AM
They don't call them "huntards" for nothing. I have a friend who refused to play with hunters he didn't know. It was his opinion that they caused nothing but chaos, and he wouldn't have anything to do with them. Ever. Personal experience suggests that he does have a valid point.

When I still played my warrior, one (of several) things that really pissed me off was the rogue cheap-shotting thing on pulls. Used to drive me crazy. One of many reasons I don't play warriors anymore.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Gobbeldygook on November 02, 2008, 10:26:26 AM
Pre-3.0, the hardest part about playing a hunter was figuring out some way to spam your steady shot macro without your fingers cramping up.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: DraconianOne on November 02, 2008, 11:14:41 AM
I have a friend who refused to play with hunters he didn't know.

How does he get to know new hunters who actually can play then?


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: ahoythematey on November 02, 2008, 11:32:40 AM
I'm pretty sure that every PUG I've been a part of that had at least one hunter in the group resulted in mostly wipes.  I don't understand why Hunters in particular are typically the dumbest fucking people that play this game, but they are and because of it I don't ever group with them if I can help it.

Because it's an incredibly easy class to just "play" but damn tough to play WELL. You can be an idiot and do ok at straight DPsing, but you're never going to understand being aware of mobs around you, pet pathing, don't multi-shot around CC'd mobs, dropping traps where and when, etc.   The prejudice you just expressed is yet another reason I stopped playing a hunter with 3.0. It's just not worth it anymore and *I* also found myself hating the other players of the class.

Believe me, it's a prejudice backed up by a lot of bad experiences.  I'd probably hate every rogue too if I didn't already play one as my main.  Hell, I already hate most rogues.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Fordel on November 02, 2008, 01:59:57 PM
In my experience, 95% of hunter related wipes, are because of piss poor pet control. God help you if they have some kind of 'EZ-Huntering' Mod. The class is idiot proof solo, and the solo play does nothing to get people into a group mindset. Even the most brain dead rogue understands the big elite mob will squash them if they garner its attention. If you tell the hunter to just put the fucking pet on passive, they are no more annoying then any other random DPS'er. Of course, a hunters pet is a huge chunk of their DPS, but on the other hand, the groups DPS goes way up when everyone is alive  :uhrr:

Nothing quite like watching a hunter pet bee-line through 3 mob packs to attack some random rat in the corner.  :awesome_for_real:



Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: K9 on November 02, 2008, 02:30:36 PM
Some credit has to be given to locks too. We had a lock pull Halazzi on us last week with a felguard.



Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Sjofn on November 02, 2008, 02:34:28 PM
In my experience, 95% of hunter related wipes, are because of piss poor pet control. God help you if they have some kind of 'EZ-Huntering' Mod. The class is idiot proof solo, and the solo play does nothing to get people into a group mindset. Even the most brain dead rogue understands the big elite mob will squash them if they garner its attention. If you tell the hunter to just put the fucking pet on passive, they are no more annoying then any other random DPS'er. Of course, a hunters pet is a huge chunk of their DPS, but on the other hand, the groups DPS goes way up when everyone is alive  :uhrr:

Nothing quite like watching a hunter pet bee-line through 3 mob packs to attack some random rat in the corner.  :awesome_for_real:

Putting the pet on passive is for pussies.

One thing that annoys me is that the pets are retards about hitting your traps again, and I didn't know this until I had to trap something in ZA. The new way defensive works for pets as them assist you automatically, too. >< It's all stuff I can work around, it's just bad to discover in an instance.  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Shrike on November 02, 2008, 03:43:21 PM
Get to know new hunters? I've never asked him, but I'd be willing to bet he'd say there's no such thing as a good, new hunter.

This was mostly when he played his warrior. Nowadays he plays a feral druid and combat rogue. He doesn't cheap shot on pulls, either, which is a big relief to my prot paladin, though the CS thing never really bothered me much as a pally (no rage to starve me from gaining, though that might not apply to 3.0). 


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Fordel on November 02, 2008, 06:03:57 PM
The most feared words uttered in our party line pre-tbc

"Frostlilly is assisting Thorgrim!"


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Ingmar on November 03, 2008, 11:22:58 AM
The most feared words uttered in our party line pre-tbc

"Frostlilly is assisting Thorgrim!"

 :ye_gods:


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Sjofn on November 03, 2008, 11:29:41 AM
Good times!  :heart:


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Pyran on November 03, 2008, 12:25:09 PM
In my experience, 95% of hunter related wipes, are because of piss poor pet control. God help you if they have some kind of 'EZ-Huntering' Mod. The class is idiot proof solo, and the solo play does nothing to get people into a group mindset. Even the most brain dead rogue understands the big elite mob will squash them if they garner its attention. If you tell the hunter to just put the fucking pet on passive, they are no more annoying then any other random DPS'er. Of course, a hunters pet is a huge chunk of their DPS, but on the other hand, the groups DPS goes way up when everyone is alive  :uhrr:

Nothing quite like watching a hunter pet bee-line through 3 mob packs to attack some random rat in the corner.  :awesome_for_real:



Have a hunter alt and most of the problems is from macros.  Huntering is all about macro spamming, the macro always assists the tank and send pet to attack along with whatever shot you want to use.  Problem is when the last mob the tank is spamming his attacks on dies, the next attack button from the tank usually will target the nearest mob if one is around.  Then the hunter spamming his macro will assist the tank and sends the pet at the unintended target.  And its worse if the pet got dash, then you wont have time to stop.

Multishot is also spammed in raids, I dont do it in 5 man cause of the problem it can cause, even if you think there's a wall there, its sometimes not really there for the multishot...


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Xanthippe on November 04, 2008, 08:47:51 AM
One thing that annoys me is that the pets are retards about hitting your traps again, and I didn't know this until I had to trap something in ZA. The new way defensive works for pets as them assist you automatically, too. >< It's all stuff I can work around, it's just bad to discover in an instance.  :ye_gods:

I hate the new pet AI. 



Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Xanthippe on November 04, 2008, 08:50:19 AM
Have a hunter alt and most of the problems is from macros.  Huntering is all about macro spamming, the macro always assists the tank and send pet to attack along with whatever shot you want to use. 

The only macro I've used on my hunter was the steady shot macro pre-3.0.   Did everything else manually.  Seemed to work out better for me (and my group) that way.


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Phred on November 04, 2008, 11:26:37 PM
The only macro I've used on my hunter was the steady shot macro pre-3.0.   Did everything else manually.  Seemed to work out better for me (and my group) that way.

Only macro I use since 3.0 is a pet attack that casts mark first. Half the time something is on cooldown and mark never casts anyway but it saves putting mark on my already overcrowded bars.



Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: apocrypha on November 07, 2008, 02:52:56 AM
Just going back to the OP, I just did this myself. Granted 25 levels to a level 22 warrior I had, while stood in Orgrimmar. Got 3 people come up and ask me about it, 2 of which thought I was either cheating or a GM until I explained it to them :p

Gotta say it feels awesome to go from level 22 to 47 in 2 mins  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: Hawkbit on November 07, 2008, 04:55:09 AM
Yeah, you skipped right over the rough spots, mostly.  I would have waited till 30 or so, but a early 20s warrior is an entirely different animal than a mid-40s.  Grats!


Title: Re: wtfhax?
Post by: VainEldritch on November 13, 2008, 12:30:02 PM
(http://borkweb.com/wp-content/upload/WTF_hax.jpg)

I lol'd...