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Title: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Nebu on October 16, 2008, 12:48:58 PM
Just wanted to get some feel for how people are reacting now that the end of the first month is drawing near.

I've cancelled my subscription and will keep a loose eye on the game.  When they reduce the grind, improve itemization, and encourage worldly pvp, I'll come back.  I just hope that it's not never.


Title: Re: Who has quit or is taking an extended break?
Post by: tazelbain on October 16, 2008, 01:12:57 PM
We already have plenty of threads discussing the issues surrounding WAR.


Title: Re: Who has quit or is taking an extended break?
Post by: Nebu on October 16, 2008, 01:17:24 PM
We already have plenty of threads discussing the issues surrounding WAR.

Not asking about issues or fixes.  Just want to know who is still playing.  See: Thread title.

Something wrong with that?


Title: Re: Who has quit or is taking an extended break?
Post by: HaemishM on October 16, 2008, 01:18:55 PM
I'm still playing.


Title: Re: Who has quit or is taking an extended break?
Post by: tazelbain on October 16, 2008, 01:28:15 PM
We already have plenty of threads discussing the issues surrounding WAR.

Not asking about issues or fixes.  Just want to know who is still playing.  See: Thread title.

Something wrong with that?
See, on my screen it says the exact opposite.  "Who has quit or is taking an extended break?"  Like you want commiserate with people leaving the game.


Title: Re: Who has quit or is taking an extended break?
Post by: Ingmar on October 16, 2008, 01:30:58 PM
I haven't quit, its just been shitty timing for me lately - vacations, etc.


Title: Re: Who has quit or is taking an extended break?
Post by: amiable on October 16, 2008, 01:33:01 PM
Sianne and I will be gone for about a month, but we will be back!


Title: Who plans to stay after the first month?
Post by: Nebu on October 16, 2008, 01:33:26 PM
See, on my screen it says the exact opposite.  "Who has quit or is taking an extended break?"  Like you want commiserate with people leaving the game.

I changed the title to be more glass-half-full.  I don't care about reason.  Just want to know if people are planning to continue or not. 



Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: squirrel on October 16, 2008, 01:43:57 PM
I'll be playing. The grind isn't so bad for me, I find lots of things to do on my main or an alt. And I like the PvP.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: rattran on October 16, 2008, 01:48:41 PM
I'm not planning on subscribing past the first month. The additional grind added at launch, lack of any clear population balancing ideas (the 20% didn't seem to do much), and general lack of communication doesn't help. I'm NOT wading through vault network for crumbs of info from developers.

Maybe they can fix things, but if the fixes aren't in by the time they ask me for more money, I'll move on.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Sjofn on October 16, 2008, 02:19:21 PM
I'm going to keep on playing, but I know I will disappear for at least a little while when WotLK comes out.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: veredus on October 16, 2008, 03:09:01 PM
I'm gonna keep playing. I do hope they make some changes to encourage more ORvR and to get people together more for PQ's etc at this time it's not a deal breaker. Having a lot of fun.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Kail on October 16, 2008, 03:28:01 PM
Still playing.

The thing which determines if I'll stay in this game is Lich King.  If it comes out and the PvP is good (that and the Death Knights are all that interest me, and DKs aren't enough to keep my sub if I don't have anything new to do with them), I'll switch back to WoW.  If WoW fucks up the PvP (by doing something like, say, putting arena requirements on all their PvP gear) then I'm sticking with WAR.

There's a lot of things that need fixing with WAR, but at least they look like they're moving in the right direction, and they're responding faster than Blizzard does.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Rasix on October 16, 2008, 03:28:27 PM
There was no option for "maybe".  It'll likely get cancelled soonish.  It may trickle past the first month.

Grind already bores me at late tier 2. No way I'd be able to slog through tier 3.

Game is really kind of in crappy shape, I'm a bit taken back that I'm not quitting out of principle.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Ingmar on October 16, 2008, 03:32:09 PM
Penny Arcade's news post today is largely about Warhammer, and serves pretty well at encapsulating my reasons for not quitting. (Although he's more generous to the PVE than I would be.)


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: tazelbain on October 16, 2008, 03:38:31 PM
If only Penny Arcade wasn't a haven for exploiters in WAR.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Ingmar on October 16, 2008, 03:46:49 PM
I don't think we should really be conflating the actions of 'bunch of people who happened to get together on the message board for PA' with the opinions of a guy who probably has nothing to do with the issues we might have with them.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: murdoc on October 16, 2008, 03:51:12 PM
I'll be playing. The grind isn't so bad for me, I find lots of things to do on my main or an alt. And I like the PvP.

This.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: UnSub on October 16, 2008, 07:14:00 PM
Maybe.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Falconeer on October 17, 2008, 06:45:33 AM
I hate to admit that I quit so fast. I really wanted to enjoy it, coming from the half-assed pvp siege stuff of Age of Conan.

Sadly, it only made me realize how unbearable the combat in WAR is now that I evolved with Conan. It made me fall back in love with AoC and it also, if possible, made me want to try WoW again for the first time in more than 3 years just to see if the combat is actually worse  (didn't do it though) .

Finally, I hate scenarios. I like that kind of stuff in Battlefield, Counterstrike, Team Fortress, don't like any kind of arenas in MMORPGs. Seems to be like the opposite of what it should be, arenas are a virtual world's nemeses.

I might come back to Warhammer in the future should they put much more focus on worldly pvp, and if I am bored enough with Conan to the point of wanting some old school mmorpg action.

Still thanks to Schild and Non for giving me the chance to be part of BC since day one. Sorry for letting you down after all the fuss I made.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Righ on October 17, 2008, 09:02:25 AM
You don't need to feel guilty and you haven't let anybody down. Its a game, and you're only supposed to play it if it is fun.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Nebu on October 17, 2008, 09:04:12 AM
So far I'm encouraged by the optimism.  Thank you all for the feedback.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Mrbloodworth on October 17, 2008, 09:20:08 AM
Is it only BC you want to know about? or can us on the fringe weigh in?

Cuse uh, i'm still really digging the game. They have my sub for now, and my guilds growing.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: tazelbain on October 17, 2008, 09:22:33 AM
On the positive side we had 9 people for the Gunbad run on Wednesday.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Nebu on October 17, 2008, 10:19:00 AM
Is it only BC you want to know about? or can us on the fringe weigh in?

Cuse uh, i'm still really digging the game. They have my sub for now, and my guilds growing.

Feel free.  I'm happy to hear positives.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Evildrider on October 17, 2008, 10:36:42 AM
If only Penny Arcade wasn't a haven for exploiters in WAR.


This.  The tactic of using the Magus suck at the keep doors while defending is really pissing off alot of players, to the point where they just want to quit the game.

Mythic needs to fix that asap.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Lantyssa on October 17, 2008, 12:23:38 PM
Is it only BC you want to know about? or can us on the fringe weigh in?

Cuse uh, i'm still really digging the game. They have my sub for now, and my guilds growing.
Feel free.  I'm happy to hear positives.
In that case, I'll be hanging around a bit more, too.  It has it's problems, but I'm still having fun and I have a great guild filled with people I know but haven't had the opportunity to play with.  It's really nice to be able to hang out with them.

I might even pop over to my Iron Breaker in Bat Country every now and then to say 'hi'.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Kirth on October 17, 2008, 12:43:49 PM
I'll play.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Tarami on October 17, 2008, 04:12:25 PM
I'm back to LotRO to prepare and finish up some stuff for the expansion coming in November.

HOWEVER.

I do like WAR alot for some things, so I'll be back once I hear RvR is on track for epic fun.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Tmon on October 19, 2008, 06:50:16 AM
I decided to stick around another month.  I find that if avoid the PVE as much as I can that I enjoy the game a lot more.  I know this will make my journey through tier 3 take forever but I'm OK with that for now.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Morfiend on October 19, 2008, 08:42:06 PM
I decided to stick around another month.  I find that if avoid the PVE as much as I can that I enjoy the game a lot more.  I know this will make my journey through tier 3 take forever but I'm OK with that for now.

You should make it a case study. Do nothing but RVR and see how long it takes you to get from 25 to 30.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Goreschach on October 20, 2008, 08:36:14 AM
I'll be sticking around for another month. A lot of people are complaining about there being nothing but scenarios to do, but since that's the one part of the game I think mythic really got right, I'll be good for a couple more weeks. But all the little problems are wearing me down, and if there aren't some major improvements in them then this'll be my last month.

Nice to see the poll doesn't look too abysmal.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Righ on October 20, 2008, 08:58:55 AM
I have at least another couple of months in me, so I've subbed for a three month period. I don't find the PvE to be any more terrible than the other games in the genre, and since in most other games that is all there is, the scenarios and keep combat is a plus in WAR. I have maintained my WoW sub, and may spend some time there when I need a break from WAR, but right now all the servers I have higher level characters on are unstable at prime time, so that's not currently an option.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Nebu on October 20, 2008, 09:01:05 AM
I must confess that while I cancelled after the first month, that the discussions in the other threads may have me resub for another month or two.  During that time, I may conduct some experiments with artes of progression between RvR only vs scenario only characters. 



Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: amiable on October 20, 2008, 10:32:40 AM

Nice to see the poll doesn't look too abysmal.

Yeah, with all the negativity I've seen I expected the numbers to be worse.  I guess a lot of folks quietly like the game.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Tmon on October 20, 2008, 10:37:21 AM
... I don't find the PvE to be any more terrible than the other games in the genre, and since in most other games that is all there is, the scenarios and keep combat is a plus in WAR...

That's true and the reason I'm not playing anything else and haven't for quite a while.  The reason I'm sticking around is that I have fun doing the pvp and technically I don't have to PVE to participate, whether this turns out to be true in the long run is the question.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Nebu on October 20, 2008, 10:38:04 AM
Nice to see the poll doesn't look too abysmal.

This is why I wanted to run this poll.  I wanted to see if people were just whining or actually voting with their wallet. 


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Signe on October 20, 2008, 01:09:47 PM
I hope some people are left when I'm ready to start playing this game.   :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: waylander on October 20, 2008, 01:13:02 PM
I resubscribed, but as I've said here before there is NO way I'm rolling an ALT with PVE as terrible as it is right now.  On my server the PVP scenarios are queuing less often, and our population has gone from high to medium. I just can't see myself having to PVE for most of my levels the way things are right now.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: tazelbain on October 20, 2008, 02:47:51 PM
I hope some people are left when I'm ready to start playing this game.   :heartbreak:
People are leaving because you aren't playing the game.  A day doesn't go by without someone asking "Where's Signe?" or "Doesn't Signe love us any more?"


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Signe on October 20, 2008, 04:42:15 PM
I had a boo boo finger!  Thank God, it wasn't my Fuck You finger or I'd never be able to get in a car again.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: HaemishM on October 20, 2008, 05:16:34 PM
I had a boo boo finger! 

Well, pull that thing out of there and come to Warhammer for the CRUSHING. You can even have very nice hats.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Goreschach on October 20, 2008, 05:41:30 PM
I had a boo boo finger!  Thank God, it wasn't my Fuck You finger or I'd never be able to get in a car again.

There's a hooking joke in there somewhere.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: squirrel on October 20, 2008, 05:47:10 PM
I had a boo boo finger!  Thank God, it wasn't my Fuck You finger or I'd never be able to get in a car again.

There's a hooking joke in there somewhere.

I immediately thought of:

(http://mail2.someecards.com/filestorage/tha_12.jpg)

Probably says more about me than anything else though.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Hayduke on October 20, 2008, 06:30:49 PM
I don't know why this is in the BC forums, but since I'm trawling anyway I'll say I'm probably going to change my sub to a 3 or 6 month plan.  I'm encouraged by MJ's recent announcements and his visits here.  Of course he still goes to vaults and talks to people who just. don't. get. it., but you can't have everything.  Normally I'd be of the opinion that change can't come soon enough for a MMO in this shape but there's really nothing else on the horizon for me MMO-wise for me (oddly I don't consider myself a person who HAS to play a MMO so I must be deriving some satisfaction from this game).


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Numtini on October 20, 2008, 06:51:05 PM
I'm out. Too much grind, too little RVR, and most of all absolutely no faith in Mythic to fix it before the game withers. (Mythic is like America, it always does what's right, but only after exhausting all other possibilities.)

The two sieges I was in were absolutely amazing. I could be an easy win back if I saw significant changes.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Nebu on October 20, 2008, 07:40:05 PM
I don't know why this is in the BC forums, but since I'm trawling anyway I'll say I'm probably going to change my sub to a 3 or 6 month plan. 

If I'm not mistaken, this forum is not open to the general public.  With all the recent MJ stalkers coming, I didn't want it to turn into a VN/WHA poll.  I'm interested in BC players and their thoughts. 


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: schild on October 20, 2008, 07:52:13 PM
BC is open, Bazooko's is not.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Venkman on October 20, 2008, 08:00:39 PM
I'm out. Too much grind, too little RVR, and most of all absolutely no faith in Mythic to fix it before the game withers. (Mythic is like America, it always does what's right, but only after exhausting all other possibilities.)

The two sieges I was in were absolutely amazing. I could be an easy win back if I saw significant changes.

All of this.  :grin:


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Hayduke on October 20, 2008, 09:33:27 PM
BC is open, Bazooko's is not.

It used to be, though I never visited it.  Why the change?


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: schild on October 20, 2008, 09:35:51 PM
It was for the destro guild before. Now it's for the alliance.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Nebu on October 20, 2008, 10:25:56 PM
BC is open, Bazooko's is not.

My error.  Thanks for the clarification.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Velorath on October 21, 2008, 03:12:37 AM
My subscription runs out on the 24th I believe.  I might resub at some point after I'm done with all the holiday game releases I'll be picking up.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: angry.bob on October 21, 2008, 05:28:31 AM
I've already resubbed. Although there are some flaws with the game, I pretty much love it. I will say one thing though: The T1 Scenarios should be the model for scenario design. Those three maps are fun and incorporate the fact that people zerg and usually just hammer on whoever is next to them. Chasing fucking Murderballs all over the map because destro always reaches them first is suboptimal.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Lantyssa on October 21, 2008, 11:35:23 AM
I've already resubbed. Although there are some flaws with the game, I pretty much love it. I will say one thing though: The T1 Scenarios should be the model for scenario design. Those three maps are fun and incorporate the fact that people zerg and usually just hammer on whoever is next to them. Chasing fucking Murderballs all over the map because destro always reaches them first is suboptimal.
All of Tier 1 seems better designed.

The PQs are the same way.  They're short and interesting.  Playing through Gunbad was a nice experience, even if the reward bags were limited to only four, because it was something you could do then move on to the next rather than grind the first stage for half an hour.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: AngryGumball on October 22, 2008, 02:39:32 AM
Eh shut down my account 12 hours before first charge.

I was lonely playing my Elf healer staying in the Elf Zones.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: MuffinMan on October 23, 2008, 10:40:07 AM
I closed my account the night before it was to be charged. The grind even at 25 was starting to get to me especially playing a somewhat gimpy class. I'll be back though, probably to see the first big patch.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: Rasix on October 23, 2008, 09:41:51 PM
Missed the charge date barely.  Damn.  Guess I'm playing past the first month but the account is canceled. 

I just didn't see anything really worth grinding for.


Title: Re: Will you play beyond the first month?
Post by: UnSub on October 25, 2008, 09:50:21 AM
I've just quit - Etherial was my character.