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Title: Juno
Post by: Ironwood on October 16, 2008, 02:45:56 AM
One of the finest films I have seen in a long time.

If you haven't, you should.


Did anyone win an award for it ?  I know it was up for a couple...


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: apocrypha on October 16, 2008, 04:11:35 AM
Agreed, great film. Good soundtrack too! :p


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Rasix on October 16, 2008, 11:54:42 AM
One of the finest films I have seen in a long time.

If you haven't, you should.


Did anyone win an award for it ?  I know it was up for a couple...

Wait, wait.. this has to be sarcastic.

I would never guess this would pass your muster.

Edit: for the record, I liked it.  Wasn't perfect, but I was entertained.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Samwise on October 16, 2008, 01:34:50 PM
I thought it was pretty good.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Abagadro on October 16, 2008, 02:19:32 PM
I hate that POS film with the burning fire of a thousand suns.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Ookii on October 16, 2008, 06:10:56 PM
It was the opposite of 'wizard'.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Samwise on October 16, 2008, 06:25:58 PM
Would that be "wiz"?


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Selby on October 16, 2008, 08:04:19 PM
I hate that POS film with the burning fire of a thousand suns.
There IS another human being I can relate to.  Everyone said I was strange for hating it.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Evildrider on October 16, 2008, 08:31:17 PM
Didn't like it either.  It was "meh" if anything.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Ironwood on October 17, 2008, 03:31:01 AM

Wait, wait.. this has to be sarcastic.


No.  Sarcasm Free.

It resonated with me.  Lots.  Not going to bother arguing with those who didn't like it.  Fair enough.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: lamaros on October 17, 2008, 05:03:11 AM

Wait, wait.. this has to be sarcastic.


No.  Sarcasm Free.

I will merely state my shared surprise.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Triforcer on October 17, 2008, 07:48:32 AM
I hate that POS film with the burning fire of a thousand suns.

I...agree!....with you.  Wow, that was strange.  Lets make sure it doesn't happen again. 

Memo to director:  teenagers really don't talk like ponderous, cynical 37 year old ex-alcoholics, dumbass.   


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Samwise on October 17, 2008, 08:33:08 AM
teenagers really don't talk like ponderous, cynical 37 year old ex-alcoholics, dumbass.   

Just because YOU didn't...   :grin:


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Broughden on October 18, 2008, 01:24:00 PM
I hate that POS film with the burning fire of a thousand suns.

Its about Sarah Palin's daughter right?


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: schild on October 19, 2008, 09:51:33 AM
Napoleon Dynamite was like getting beat up by nerds.

Juno was like getting beat up by awkward hipster low-lifes.

This movie, the dialogue and the culture surrounding it is utter trash. Ironwood, how the fuck could you possibly enjoy this thing?

Edit: To be fair, I only HEARD this movie, the cinematography and people in it made it so I couldn't even stand watching it. And I made it all the way through Teeth, so there must've been something wrong.

Edit 2: Removed the low-blow. Unnecessary. The more I know about Ironwood's past, the less I can assume he's a bot.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Nebu on January 19, 2009, 11:38:25 AM
Necro: This movie finally showed up on HBO saturday and I had a chance to watch it, so I'm going to chime in.  I loved it.  It was quirky and wonderful in ways that Napoleon Dynamite wanted to capture.  I loved the relationship dynamics, the message, and the hope found in a time of panic. 

To the haters: I think it helps being a parent. 


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Broughden on January 19, 2009, 11:40:20 AM

To the haters: I think it helps being a parent. 

So this is a movie about how its totally cool for your teenage daughter to get knocked up?


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Nebu on January 19, 2009, 11:45:25 AM
So this is a movie about how its totally cool for your teenage daughter to get knocked up?

Quite the opposite, but you know that. 

I have an attractive 15 year old daughter and imagine that something similar could happen to her.  It helped me to empathize with the main character and better appreciate the situation and the choices she was forced to make, especially with regard to family and peer dynamics.  It's a movie that makes you take a look at your life, your reactions, and the bigger picture.   


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Broughden on January 19, 2009, 11:57:06 AM
hmmm. Well actually I didnt know that. Havent seen it.
It appeared to be some angsty mcangst teen movie, not something I would normally add to my netlifx cue.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Fargull on January 19, 2009, 12:03:33 PM
I liked the movie, not great, but enjoyed it.  I think I liked the soundtrack more though.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: UnSub on January 19, 2009, 03:59:33 PM
To the haters: I think it helps being a parent. 

No.

My favourite review for Juno was something like, "If you are a guy and you see this film, your balls will drop off. Also: WORST SOUNDTRACK EVER."


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: HaemishM on January 20, 2009, 07:46:20 AM
The dialog just KILLED this movie for me. It tried so hard to be so hip and cool and boppy. Instead, it ended up sounding awkward and artificial.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Evildrider on January 20, 2009, 10:34:03 AM
To the haters: I think it helps being a parent. 

No.

My favourite review for Juno was something like, "If you are a guy and you see this film, your balls will drop off. Also: WORST SOUNDTRACK EVER."

What!  Moldy Peaches are awesome lol.  I was really surprised they used some of their songs for the movie.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Nebu on January 20, 2009, 10:36:35 AM
The dialog just KILLED this movie for me. It tried so hard to be so hip and cool and boppy. Instead, it ended up sounding awkward and artificial.

My daughter talks a lot like the movie dialog as do her 15 year old friends.  I found it to be pretty well written and fairly accurate for the typical precocious teen in the Minneapolis area.  Could explain why I liked the movie more than I would had it been set in CA or NY.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Murgos on January 20, 2009, 12:40:33 PM
I watched this last night, thought it was cute but I didn't like it anywhere near the way the GF did.

Something about it was bothering me but I didn't realize what until this morning.  I think the entire movie was cleverly phrased anti-abortion propaganda.  Not that there is anything wrong with having a movie with a message, it's just that the movie had pretty much nothing to do about the baby or the difficulty of the 'choice'.  It's message had everything to do with the girl still being 'cool' even though she had had a child.

To me it was kind of saying, "If you are a teenager and get knocked up you should have the child.  Your life will still be great, you can keep your boyfriend, your parents will love you even more and you even get to pig out on food!"


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Segoris on January 20, 2009, 01:01:57 PM
If you are a teenager and get knocked up you should have the child.  Your life will still be great, you can keep your boyfriend, your parents will love you even more and you even get to pig out on food!"
Damn, now I want to be a 15 year old chick and get pregneant, because that sounds just awesome!  :awesome_for_real:


I'm with others though, I just didn't like it and it was mostly due to the fact that I also didn't like the dialogue.

<Edit: wrong word :uhrr:>
<Edit 2: I'm a fucking retard, proof below>


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Nerf on January 20, 2009, 01:40:51 PM
pregneant

<Edit: wrong word :uhrr:>

I'm afraid to know what the word was pre-edit


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Samwise on January 20, 2009, 01:58:37 PM
To me it was kind of saying, "If you are a teenager and get knocked up you should have the child.  Your life will still be great, you can keep your boyfriend, your parents will love you even more and you even get to pig out on food!"

On the flipside, another strong message of the movie was that teenage mothers need lots of support and understanding from those around them for things to work out well.  So it's not like it's politically conservative by any stretch.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Abagadro on January 20, 2009, 04:04:56 PM
Seth Rogan didn't write it, Diablo Cody did.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Segoris on January 21, 2009, 06:41:34 AM
Yeah, I'm being a fucking retard. For whatever reason, whenever I see Michael Cera I automatically relate him to Seth Rogen, I do that with Jonah Hill too even though I know better.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: stray on February 08, 2009, 05:50:13 PM
I can't seem to wrap my head around (here and elsewhere) why this movie is pretentious or "hipster" ish. The girl is a little quirky, yeah, but she isn't really a "hipster". She likes the Stooges. Nothing wrong with that. Besides, the core of the movie is about a teen pregnancy and the future adoptive parents. Pretty simple. I watched the movie identifying with Jason Bateman's character, and resenting Jennifer Garner, but damn, the movie made me feel guilty about that, rethinking my own priorities. It's a very non-pretentious message in the end.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: naum on February 08, 2009, 11:03:26 PM
Why does everything always strike people as "propaganda"?

Granted, some may extract the anti-abortion sentiment from the flick but at its base, it was a story, a fine, enjoyable film where if it was a "message" piece, it at least it wasn't one that was rammed down your throat. It was a tale of a social dilemma, artfully done with all the relational interactions, and definitely not black/white as even the unsympathetic characters were not total evil and those favorable were in some cases extremely flawed…

I really enjoyed the music soundtrack too, it fit the film like a glove, and implored me to pick up some Kimya Dawson (and the other band(s), one of which I think she sang as a duet).

I watched this last night, thought it was cute but I didn't like it anywhere near the way the GF did.

Something about it was bothering me but I didn't realize what until this morning.  I think the entire movie was cleverly phrased anti-abortion propaganda.  Not that there is anything wrong with having a movie with a message, it's just that the movie had pretty much nothing to do about the baby or the difficulty of the 'choice'.  It's message had everything to do with the girl still being 'cool' even though she had had a child.

To me it was kind of saying, "If you are a teenager and get knocked up you should have the child.  Your life will still be great, you can keep your boyfriend, your parents will love you even more and you even get to pig out on food!"


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Ironwood on February 09, 2009, 06:13:48 AM
God, Murgos, that's not what it said to me.

At All.

Possibly just a cigar ???

 :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: stray on February 09, 2009, 09:00:39 AM
There may have been some anti-abortion message in it, but if anything, pretty indirectly. She did go to an abortion clinic, if you recall... But that was early in the movie, and lasted but 3 minutes before she changed her mind to look for adoption choices. After that, I think the movie had an unlikely message about being "cool". Jennifer Garner's character, with her love and desire for children, even if she was sort of square, turned out to be "cool". Jason Bateman turned out to be immature, not cool at all, and despite all of the pop-culture stuff Juno liked him for, she ended up despising him because he couldn't grow up. The only message I saw about it being OK for Juno to not grow up was the fact that she wasn't grown up. She was 16 and not ready. Didn't seem to be saying anything deeper than that.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: HaemishM on February 09, 2009, 09:03:22 AM
I can't seem to wrap my head around (here and elsewhere) why this movie is pretentious or "hipster" ish.

Because the dialogue tried PAINFULLY hard to be hip and instead came off sounding forced. It was like post-Pulp Fiction Tarantino dialogue - all artifice. It sounds unnatural and it makes the characters sound artificial.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: stray on February 09, 2009, 09:10:44 AM
I can't seem to wrap my head around (here and elsewhere) why this movie is pretentious or "hipster" ish.

Because the dialogue tried PAINFULLY hard to be hip and instead came off sounding forced. It was like post-Pulp Fiction Tarantino dialogue - all artifice. It sounds unnatural and it makes the characters sound artificial.

Well all the kid's attitude seemed to convey to me was that she sort of had a stiff upper lip about everything, about being pregnant, being sort of an outcast, etc.. Her quipping "hipsterism" was artificial in a way, intentionally. She showed what she really cared about when she thought Bateman was giving up, and started crying in the car by herself. I think the movie intentionally sets you up to make it seem like it's just trying to be cool, especially her interactions with the parents.. but then it turns that all around.

[edit] As for being forced, I think it made clever use of "hip" references to carry plot points. Little inside jokes that said more than what they seemed. They were inspired references, I think.. not forced. Like, when she finally dissed Bateman, she told him that a new Sonic Youth album he recommended fucking sucked.. "It's just all noise.." i.e. You're full of shit. You're not cool at all.

Bottom line though, if this movie was really trying to be hip, it would have dissed Garner instead (yeah, I keep mentioning this... but I'll end it here).


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Mrbloodworth on February 09, 2009, 01:26:03 PM
I watched Disaster Movie, i think it summed juno up well.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: stray on February 09, 2009, 01:29:40 PM
What did it say?


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Big Gulp on February 11, 2009, 09:10:58 AM
Because the dialogue tried PAINFULLY hard to be hip and instead came off sounding forced. It was like post-Pulp Fiction Tarantino dialogue - all artifice. It sounds unnatural and it makes the characters sound artificial.

God help me, I'm agreeing with Haemish.  Watch the drugstore scene with Raine Wilson again.  Tell me that shit isn't like nails on a chalkboard.  I dare you.

I hated every character except the parents in that movie.  If I ran into such a person on the streets I'd have to fight back the urge to coldcock the fucker.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: UnSub on February 11, 2009, 08:24:19 PM
"It's not an Etch-a-sketch" was a good line.

The rest: painful.

It was painful up to the point Janney and Simmons (the parents) appeared.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: chargerrich on February 12, 2009, 06:24:27 AM
I watched this last night, thought it was cute but I didn't like it anywhere near the way the GF did.

Something about it was bothering me but I didn't realize what until this morning.  I think the entire movie was cleverly phrased anti-abortion propaganda.  Not that there is anything wrong with having a movie with a message, it's just that the movie had pretty much nothing to do about the baby or the difficulty of the 'choice'.  It's message had everything to do with the girl still being 'cool' even though she had had a child.

To me it was kind of saying, "If you are a teenager and get knocked up you should have the child.  Your life will still be great, you can keep your boyfriend, your parents will love you even more and you even get to pig out on food!"


You are certainy not alone in thinking this, but both Diablo Cody and Ellen Page are outspoken pro-choice and have stated on the record, that the sentiment that this is a pro-life movie is ridiculous.

I think people are reading more into it than should be. I watched it because I think Ellen Page is going to be a star, she was great in the otherwise dull movie, smart people. She actually stole the screen from Dennis Quaid in every scene she was in.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: trias_e on February 12, 2009, 06:40:30 AM
A friend and I couldn't help but start hysterically laughing when she pulled over and began to sob.  The girls we were watching it with were flabbergasted.  Sorry girls, this movie exists to be laughed at. 


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: stray on February 12, 2009, 07:24:53 AM
Wow, I'm flabbergasted too. I can understand rolling your eyes at some of the dialog, I guess... But not really that. She was in her 8th month of pregnancy and thought she lost the adopting family. Nothing really funny about that.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: trias_e on February 12, 2009, 07:29:08 AM
Of course, I was laughing by the end credits of 'Requiem for a Dream' as well.

Ass to ass!  OMG.  LOL.

(Point?  These things are funny mainly if one doesn't find themselves emotionally invested in the film for whatever reason.)


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Broughden on February 12, 2009, 07:34:20 AM
Of course, I was laughing by the end credits of 'Requiem for a Dream' as well.

Ass to ass!  OMG.  LOL.

(Point?  These things are funny mainly if one doesn't find themselves emotionally invested in the film for whatever reason.)

Requiem for a Dream made me laugh too.

Seriously who the fuck makes emo movies for heroin addicts? Is that a large audience?

And the ass to ass scene was awesome with Jennifer Connelly, watched it in slow mo on the DVD numerous times.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: stray on February 12, 2009, 07:36:21 AM
Oh boy.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: WayAbvPar on February 12, 2009, 10:47:34 AM
Finally saw Juno. It was amusing. Not fantastic, but worth the ~80 minutes I invested.


Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Furiously on February 14, 2009, 04:35:58 PM
I thought it was better then 9/10 movies out there. It was funny