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Title: Invention query
Post by: Amarr HM on September 25, 2008, 01:00:04 PM
I'm gonna do a bit of invention this month when I get time, I have Nanite engineering and Mech Engineering to level V plus a heap of datacores. I was wondering where I could find out what BPs utilise both these skills as obviously I'd have a great advantage inventing those ones in particular. Plus does anyone know where to find a good guide to decryptors?


Title: Re: Invention query
Post by: Reg on September 25, 2008, 06:21:31 PM
Here's the guide I used when I was a beginner.

http://www.eve-guides.com/ittey/index.php (http://www.eve-guides.com/ittey/index.php)

I don't use decryptors for modules at all anymore. I used to back when profit margins were bigger but the way things are now you can't be competitive and still use them.  The exception is for when I'm inventing big T2 ships. For those I use the super expensive decryptor that gives you the maximum invention boost and 4 extra runs on your invented BPC.

Unfortunately nothing uses the combination of mechanical engineering and nanite engineering. Nanite plus Molecular lets you invent armor hardeners...

Read that invention guide. I suspect you're still about month short of the skills you're going to need. Don't forget you will need the appropriate racial "encryption methods" skill along with the two sciences. And everything should be at level 4 at least.


Title: Re: Invention query
Post by: Amarr HM on September 25, 2008, 06:45:39 PM
Cheers Reg I'm going to start inventing Ogre II bps for now and I know I need Electronic engineering skill. Is there anything else you think I should add or train further? I have a fair amount in science already take a look (my alt btw).

Science
(http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/character/level3.gif) Astrometric Pinpointing
(http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/character/level3.gif) Astrometric Triangulation
(http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/character/level5.gif) Astrometrics
(http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/character/level4.gif) Cybernetics
(http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/character/level2.gif) Hacking
(http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/character/level1.gif) Infomorph Psychology
(http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/character/level5.gif) Laboratory Operation
(http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/character/level5.gif) Mechanical Engineering
(http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/character/level1.gif) Metallurgy
(http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/character/level5.gif) Nanite Engineering
(http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/character/level5.gif) Research
(http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/character/level4.gif) Research Project Management
(http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/character/level5.gif) Science
(http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/character/level4.gif) Signal Acquisition
Total Skillpoints in Group: 5,268,339


Title: Re: Invention query
Post by: ClydeJr on September 25, 2008, 11:53:11 PM
Like Reg mentioned, you need the appropriate encryption method skill. For Ogre IIs, you need Gallente Encryption Methods.

Invention Chance Calculator: http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/invention_chance.php



Title: Re: Invention query
Post by: Endie on September 26, 2008, 04:02:53 AM
I would, yet again, recommend Eve MEEP.  That thing is great for invention, production, POS modelling, trading etc etc.


Title: Re: Invention query
Post by: Reg on September 26, 2008, 10:54:47 AM
That guide I mentioned has a section telling you what prerequisite skills you need. Some of them are a little odd. You need Electronics 2, Engineering 2, Hacking 2, Science 5, and Electronics Upgrades 5.

For the Ogre 2 you need Mechanical Engineering and Electronic Engineering so at least you're getting to use one of your pretrained skills. It probably shouldn't take too horribly long to get Electronic Engineering and Gallente Encryption Methods up to 4.


Title: Re: Invention query
Post by: 5150 on October 14, 2008, 05:52:42 AM
Since there aren't meta-level drones your going to need all the help you can get inventing Ogre 2's

I'd recommend pushing up the required science skills as high as possible (you'll have to look at the financial viability of using decryptors though)


Title: Re: Invention query
Post by: Reg on October 14, 2008, 06:45:48 AM
Unless you get them incredibly cheaply nobody uses decryptors anymore - certainly not for drones or modules.