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Title: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Evildrider on September 24, 2008, 10:05:34 AM
VERMONT -- People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals sent a letter to Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, cofounders of Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc., urging them to replace cow's milk they use in their ice cream products with human breast milk, according to a statement recently released by a PETA spokeswoman.

"PETA's request comes in the wake of news reports that a Swiss restaurant owner will begin purchasing breast milk from nursing mothers and substituting breast milk for 75 percent of the cow's milk in the food he serves," the statement says.

PETA officials say a move to human breast milk would lessen the suffering of dairy cows and their babies on factory farms and benefit human health.

"The fact that human adults consume huge quantities of dairy products made from milk that was meant for a baby cow just doesn't make sense," says PETA Executive Vice President Tracy Reiman. "Everyone knows that 'the breast is best,' so Ben & Jerry's could do consumers and cows a big favor by making the switch to breast milk."

In a statement Ben and Jerry's said, "We applaud PETA's novel approach to bringing attention to an issue, but we believe a mother's milk is best used for her child."

Read PETA's letter to Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield

September 23, 2008

Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, Cofounders

Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc.

Dear Mr. Cohen and Mr. Greenfield,

On behalf of PETA and our more than 2 million members and supporters, I'd like to bring your attention to an innovative new idea from Switzerland that would bring a unique twist to Ben and Jerry's.

Storchen restaurant is set to unveil a menu that includes soups, stews, and sauces made with at least 75 percent breast milk procured from human donors who are paid in exchange for their milk. If Ben and Jerry's replaced the cow's milk in its ice cream with breast milk, your customers-and cows-would reap the benefits.

Using cow's milk for your ice cream is a hazard to your customer's health. Dairy products have been linked to juvenile diabetes, allergies, constipation, obesity, and prostate and ovarian cancer. The late Dr. Benjamin Spock, America's leading authority on child care, spoke out against feeding cow's milk to children, saying it may play a role in anemia, allergies, and juvenile diabetes and in the long term, will set kids up for obesity and heart disease-America's number one cause of death.

Animals will also benefit from the switch to breast milk. Like all mammals, cows only produce milk during and after pregnancy, so to be able to constantly milk them, cows are forcefully impregnated every nine months. After several years of living in filthy conditions and being forced to produce 10 times more milk than they would naturally, their exhausted bodies are turned into hamburgers or ground up for soup.

And of course, the veal industry could not survive without the dairy industry. Because male calves can't produce milk, dairy farmers take them from their mothers immediately after birth and sell them to veal farms, where they endure 14 to 17 weeks of torment chained inside a crate so small that they can't even turn around.

The breast is best! Won't you give cows and their babies a break and our health a boost by switching from cow's milk to breast milk in Ben and Jerry's ice cream? Thank you for your consideration.

Sincerely,

Tracy Reiman

Executive Vice President




WTF... PETA is retarded...   :ye_gods:


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Cadaverine on September 24, 2008, 10:12:12 AM
Penn & Teller: Bullshit on PETA

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsHUBEfBNMo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsHUBEfBNMo)

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4Eo4KtBJFc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4Eo4KtBJFc)

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXjwDqz4gWM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXjwDqz4gWM)


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Ookii on September 24, 2008, 10:14:34 AM
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A restaurant has been banned from serving up dishes containing human milk on the grounds that the "ingredient" derives from an unauthorised source.

The Storchen restaurant, in Iberg on the outskirts of Winterthur, had advertised for mothers to sell their breast milk for the special menu. But breastfeeding counsellors had labelled the project unethical.

The idea was eventually scrapped after canton Zurich food inspectors said it broke regulations, and threatened to take action. "Humans are not on the list of authorised milk suppliers such as cows or sheep," said department head Rolf Etter.

http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/front.html?siteSect=109&ty=st&sid=9744046&front=br (http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/front.html?siteSect=109&ty=st&sid=9744046&front=br)


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Hawkbit on September 24, 2008, 10:42:15 AM
In the right corner:  PETA!

In the left corner:  La Leche League and Amnesty International!

Fight!


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Salamok on September 24, 2008, 01:38:02 PM
so can we get a list of drugs that make the journey from blood to milk in force.  Then we can start seeing some truly wacky ben and jerry's recipes?  Wavy Gravy indeed!


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Ingmar on September 24, 2008, 01:40:56 PM
As a far-left crazy person, I hate PETA. They're not an environmentalist group but lots of people think they are and they end up tainting the entire movement with their brand of crazy.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Mr_PeaCH on September 24, 2008, 01:57:04 PM
As a far-left crazy person, I hate PETA. They're not an environmentalist group but lots of people think they are and they end up tainting the entire movement with their brand of crazy.

The way I've always heard it explained is that the PETAs and the Earth First!s are sometimes necessary in that, after people get a chance to see the real crazies in action, the not-quite-so-extremes seem pretty reasonable by comparison.  But I can see it your way too.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Salamok on September 24, 2008, 02:07:22 PM
Sure wish the bill of rights had included the right to choose not to be bombarded by the whackjobs messages.  The freedom not to listen should always go hand in hand with free speech.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Stormwaltz on September 24, 2008, 03:26:34 PM
I expect PETA's next press release to call for humans to breathe less often, so there's more air for the animals.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: FatuousTwat on September 24, 2008, 03:32:32 PM
I expect PETA's next press release to call for humans to breathe less often, so there's more air for the animals.

You are fuckin' A right! STOP BREATHING THAT SLUG'S AIR! STOP! STOP IT! MOM!


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: K9 on September 24, 2008, 06:14:16 PM
The amount of credibility awarded to PETA makes me sick. Animal Right's Activists are some of the most fucked up people in society and I have zero time for them.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Samwise on September 24, 2008, 07:07:19 PM
I dunno, I can get behind some of their stunts.

(http://o.aolcdn.com/feedgallery/india/i/p/peta_hens_08/21_peta_hens_2706_430xx.jpg):hello_thar:


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Daeven on September 24, 2008, 09:21:19 PM
In the right corner:  PETA!

In the left corner:  La Leche League and Amnesty International!

Fight!

The only way to win....  is to kill them all and take their stuff.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Abagadro on September 24, 2008, 10:08:21 PM
PETA does have a great ability to convince young, stupid hotties to not wear clothes (I approved a permit for just such an event a couple of weeks ago). So they got that going for them. But other than that they are completely worthless.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Jeff Kelly on September 25, 2008, 12:05:23 AM
Not that I don't agree with the basic premise of not treating animals cruelly bu I don't get people that care more about animals than they care about people.

I'd rather they fought with the same fervor for the ethical treatment of people than they were for animals.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Tebonas on September 25, 2008, 01:02:05 AM
Thats beyond retarded.

Are they getting paid to destroy the credibility of animal activists?


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: K9 on September 25, 2008, 02:53:36 AM
I think they guys who were digging up corpses and firebombing nurseries ere destroying that credibility pretty well.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Tebonas on September 25, 2008, 03:04:10 AM
Yeah, but Breast Milk Ice Cream?


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Hawkbit on September 25, 2008, 05:12:30 AM
I'd just like to point out that while eating ice cream made from boobies is creepy, eating ice cream off of boobies is pretty cool. 


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Ironwood on September 25, 2008, 05:14:31 AM
That's mostly because of the cold.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Sky on September 25, 2008, 06:37:57 AM
The image of boobie ice cream is completely ruined when paired with the image of PETA.

(http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/08eca0e67e_ltp19anim1.jpg)

Also, PETA hates them some plants. Savages!


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Oban on September 25, 2008, 07:12:48 AM
I cooked a prime grass-fed Red Angus rib-eye steak last night, it was quite good.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: HaemishM on September 25, 2008, 07:22:51 AM
If I'm ever forced to go cannibal, I hope my first meal can be a PETA activist.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Nebu on September 25, 2008, 09:23:16 AM
Bob and Tom used this as an opportunity to come up with new Ice cream names containing breast milk in the spirit of Ben & Jerry's.  My favorite: Thanks for the mammaries.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Sky on September 25, 2008, 09:51:56 AM
Maybe Janet Jackson could endorse a chocolate variety.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Numtini on September 25, 2008, 10:09:27 AM
Someone should probably tell them Ben & Jerry sold the business and aren't involved anymore.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Merusk on September 25, 2008, 02:34:31 PM
Now time for the "question that you have to stop and think about:"

Why do you find it creepy to drink breast milk, but find it perfectly acceptable to drink the milk of a farm animal.  Assume both are pasteurized and quality-checked for funky crap.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: HaemishM on September 25, 2008, 02:40:21 PM
Lactation porn.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Mrbloodworth on September 25, 2008, 02:47:14 PM
Now time for the "question that you have to stop and think about:"

Why do you find it creepy to drink breast milk, but find it perfectly acceptable to drink the milk of a farm animal.  Assume both are pasteurized and quality-checked for funky crap.

Look at your avatar.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Samwise on September 25, 2008, 02:47:28 PM
Why do you find it creepy to drink breast milk, but find it perfectly acceptable to drink the milk of a farm animal.  Assume both are pasteurized and quality-checked for funky crap.

I think the main creepy thing about it is the disease risk associated with a stranger's bodily fluids.  I'd be fine with human milk if I could be absolutely sure I wasn't going to catch anything from it.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: caladein on September 25, 2008, 03:14:48 PM
Why do you find it creepy to drink breast milk, but find it perfectly acceptable to drink the milk of a farm animal.  Assume both are pasteurized and quality-checked for funky crap.

I think the main creepy thing about it is the disease risk associated with a stranger's bodily fluids.  I'd be fine with human milk if I could be absolutely sure I wasn't going to catch anything from it.

Are there any heat-resistant, human-carried pathogens that can't simply be tested for before you're cleared for commercial breast-milk production?


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Oban on September 25, 2008, 03:24:19 PM
prions


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Cyrrex on September 25, 2008, 03:24:52 PM
Not to mention that, at a guess anyway, you'd never, ever be able to come close to being able to find enough breast milk donors to meet the demands of the ice cream market, not to mention the other billions of things milk is put into.  And imagine what a gallon of ice cream would cost.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: K9 on September 25, 2008, 03:28:21 PM
I'd try breast milk ice cream if it were offered to me.



Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Tebonas on September 25, 2008, 11:22:12 PM
Why do you find it creepy to drink breast milk, but find it perfectly acceptable to drink the milk of a farm animal.  Assume both are pasteurized and quality-checked for funky crap.

The same reason I love me some juicy Angus silverslide while refraining from eating human meat.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: FatuousTwat on September 26, 2008, 12:33:07 AM
I was watching current (satellite station) and saw this story. Someone's comment was "They should make celebrity flavours!".


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: KallDrexx on November 16, 2011, 05:36:29 AM
Necroing cause I found this pretty funny.  PETA is enraged that the latest Mario game has Mario in a Tanooki suit (http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/249812/20111115/mario-enrages-peta-raccoon-tanooki-suit-tanuki.htm).

Quote
"When on a mission to rescue the princess, Mario has been known to use any means necessary to defeat his enemy, even wearing the skin of a raccoon dog to give him special powers," the site reads. "Tanooki may just be a 'suit' in Mario games, but in real life, tanuki are raccoon dogs who are skinned alive for their fur. By wearing tanooki, Mario is sending the message that it's OK to wear fur. Play Super Tanooki Skin 2D and help Tanooki reclaim his fur!"

...

This is the second time in the last year that PETA has criticized a video game. In 2010, the group released a play on the Xbox360 downloadable game Super Meat Boy, changing the title to "Super Tofu Boy."

 :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: tgr on November 16, 2011, 05:58:16 AM
They've gone after BF3 as well. Apparently someone in PETA actually managed to play through the SP part to find this gem:

Quote from: http://www.insidegamingdaily.com/2011/11/08/peta-upset-at-bf3-rat-killing%E2%80%94seems-fine-with-entire-rest-of-the-game/
“The realistic computer game Battlefield 3 treats animals in a sadistic manner. The game gives players the option to kill a rat with a combat knife in the back in order to then lift it by its tail, then toss it away,” the press release says, adding that “killing virtual animals” can have “a brutalizing effect […] on the young male audience.”

The title of this thread doesn't even begin to describe how nuts they must be to unironically mean whatever it is they vomit forth.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: K9 on November 16, 2011, 11:09:46 AM
If they don't like BF3 they are REALLY going to hate skyrim  :grin:


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Nyght on November 16, 2011, 11:25:18 AM
Much better if we are only slaughter humans and are trying to ethnically cleanse other races.     :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Ratman_tf on November 16, 2011, 01:02:51 PM
I'm not quite sure what to make of PETA. They're quite willing to kill animals (http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/03/peta_kills_95_o.html) and then turn around and ask people to go to ludicrous lengths to not harm animals.

I'm suspecting that they're a performance art group, like Flash Mobs, only retarted instead of clever.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Tmon on November 16, 2011, 03:46:34 PM
My friend's dad used to do a pretty good business with People for The Eating Tasty Animals t-shirts till he got a nasty letter from a lawyer. 


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Ingmar on November 16, 2011, 03:48:44 PM
Yeah a lot of times when they go in and 'rescue' animals from hoarders and such they turn right around and destroy them - and they in fact have a habit of working specifically and directly against the no-kill movement. It is utterly baffling to me.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Lantyssa on November 16, 2011, 04:41:54 PM
It probably has something to do with the fact that they're insane.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: tgr on November 16, 2011, 04:54:05 PM
My friend's dad used to do a pretty good business with People for The Eating Tasty Animals t-shirts till he got a nasty letter from a lawyer. 
Why? Did he infringe on any copyrights?


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Khaldun on November 16, 2011, 07:26:07 PM
After Skyrim, I am now very completely inured to the brutal killing of dragons. I'd even eat their meat and wear their skins! I am contributing to the insane brutalization of dragons! I'm not even a young male, I'm an OLD MALE. OCCUPY the GREYBEARDS!


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Miasma on November 17, 2011, 04:56:37 AM
Edit: Heh wrong thread.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Tmon on November 17, 2011, 08:31:00 AM
My friend's dad used to do a pretty good business with People for The Eating Tasty Animals t-shirts till he got a nasty letter from a lawyer.  
Why? Did he infringe on any copyrights?

Probably not.  But it was around the same time that they managed to get peta.com away from a guy that used it for his People for the Eating of Tasty Animals website.  So he didn't feel like seeing what would happen if he kept on selling them.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: HaemishM on November 17, 2011, 09:08:23 AM
Yeah a lot of times when they go in and 'rescue' animals from hoarders and such they turn right around and destroy them - and they in fact have a habit of working specifically and directly against the no-kill movement. It is utterly baffling to me.

That is... goddamn insane.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: NowhereMan on November 17, 2011, 09:12:55 AM
I think a lot of it gets sort of justified by them on the grounds that it is crueller for animals to be kept in captivity than to be killed and so cats and dogs will be better off destroyed than rehoused, which also goes to their long term goal of making keeping pets illegal. There's a lot of crazy shit when you get down to the people actually driving PETA's agenda way beyond a lot of their active membership being assholes who spend their whole lives protesting people for eating honey that involves the exploitation of bees or whatever.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Ratman_tf on November 17, 2011, 09:14:36 AM
That is... goddamn insane.

I believe their rationalization is that keeping animals is slavery, but domesticated animals cannot survive well (or at all) without humans, so it's more "humane" to kill them. It's hard to track down an offical response, as PETA killing thousands of animals every year is something I imagine they don't want to comment on.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: MahrinSkel on November 17, 2011, 09:16:50 PM
I'm a fan of hot naked chicks in cages.  Maybe that came out wrong....

--Dave


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Khaldun on November 26, 2011, 08:12:15 PM
PETA is solidly positioned at the place where conferring rights on animals goes totally incoherent. E.g., it's one thing to say, "Don't be cruel" and another to say, "animals have rights substantially indistinguishable from those of humans". As soon as you even get close to that, all carnivorous animals become murderers unless you invoke the "it's in their nature" clause. But if you invoke that, then: a) domestic animals whose 'nature' is now to be co-resident with and dependent upon human beings ought to be a non-problem philosophically and b) at least some human consumption and use of animals ought to be as much of a non-problem as ants farming aphids is: e.g., it is in our nature.


Title: Re: PETA is nucking futs.
Post by: Merusk on November 26, 2011, 08:47:47 PM
No, because they'll counter-argue that getting protein from animals is only acceptable from animals because they have neither the cognitive ability or technology to understand they can get it from other sources.   It's in our nature to kill when angered but we don't accept that as unavoidable. We must advance past such a base reaction and move on to a more enlightened state and embrace plant protein.

 :awesome_for_real:

I always argued at least animals can run away. Shame on them for stalking poor defenseless carrots like that.