f13.net

you can sign up on fileplanet, or probably the main wow site, but it is so slow I cannot access the site.

Anyway, I would suggest you use the Fileplanet downloaded, as the blizzard one is total shit.

Enjoy., and anyone wanting a guild or a group of friends, join Horde, Test 6 server.

Heh.  Must have just opened, I was on their site very recently, and yeah, it's hosed now.  Fileplanet is kinda hosed too.

Alkiera

Yeah, both are laying eggs. The wife just got in.

This explains why I am not able to acces this goddam site for about an hour.

I do not think this will change soon. Damm, I really wanted to now if there were any news on the clusterfuck of US-Versions + Gametimecodes which will be avaible in germany shortly after the US-Release.

Anyone  who could enlighten me how exactly Blizzard will keep me from playing on Us-Servers/participating in the open Beta ?

Do they check the "Billing"Adress for Open Beta ? Scan where I am located ?
Do they do it during registration or when I want to connect to the Game Server ?

Oh,  because I am still bored ? Anyone who managed to register 2 times ? Because I would find such a key handy, if only for the purpose of finding out where exactly I will get blocked after release ?

Right now it looks like you'd be lucky to register one time. The site has laid more eggs than a fucking chicken factory.

Not sure if I understood the "egg" reference, but I noticed that fileplanet too is a bit busy

*smashes his head against the keyboard because there is nothing else to do*

Laying an egg... i.e. sucking the big one. Rolling over tits up. Kaputsky. Pusing up daises.

SERVER NO WORKIE. HIRE MORE AZNS.

On how many AZNS does f13 runs?

If you had spoken german from the begining, I would have understood you earlier.

Yes, we need to work on your slang, meine freund...

Fileplanet signups are closed.

Fileplanet destroyed.  Total victory

All your beta key's belong to us ...

I bet they made more money during these few hours than they make in a year. Still if Blizzard's servers can't handle downloads why do they think they can handle people playing? I remember B.net Diablo2 was lagy as hell first few months, WoW probably will suffer the same fate.

How?  No one could get thru... I was hitting refresh repeatedly.  Their server was hosed.

Alkiera

www.worldofwarcraft.com destroyed as well.

You did not need to join fileplanet to get an open beta key. It was free.

Their admins are eating their own toes right about now - I love the mispelling... Pos Is Ble.  Who is Pos and what does it mean that he's ble?

Destroyed as in, no beta keys left, or as in no fucking way to get in because 200 zillion Bnet-Freaks are trying to refresh the page ?

How? When I checked a few days ago it was looping me - click here to get key, please enter key to continue...

You needed a gamespy ID, but not to subsribe (aka pay)

Today is not a few days ago.  It just opened up today.  In theory, anyway.  In practice, not so much.  

Also curious is the 'open beta keys are first come, first served' verbiage.  Perhaps the open beta is not so open as you'd think.

What's the over/under on a DAoC-style launch vs AO-style launch?

www.worldofwarcraft.com responds now with a static page:


Note, the top article on Battle.Net is "We've closed our WoW forums in anticpation of open beta, please go to http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/forums/".  Riiiight.  Way to think ahead.

Alkiera

Hopefully Blizzard will learn from this and this clusterfuck won't repeat day 1 of live.

They dont seem to have learned from the mess that was D2 opening day so why would the learn now?

Meh, I was hopeing to check out the open beta.  Should have known I would have to spawn camp and fight off kill stealers.

A few days ago, was the stress test which you did need to pay for. This is open beta today, which is free.

There will be more open beta keys, watch www.worldofwarcraft.com if you are still looking for one.

Well, it depends on whether they offer the game for download on day 1.  Theoretically, the majority of the playerbase will get the 2GB off the DVD/CD's and not via download.

Got a key.  Yay, fileplanets fucked upedness.  There is a link over at Corp for those of you who are interested in trying your luck.

They might be gone already, but I got a fileplanet beta key at 715 eastern.   Hopefully some of you still looking get one too. good luck.

Jambe


*edit* Talking on phone while posting is bad, mmmkay?

Just looked. Fileplanet indicates that they are all gone. Expect another batch once Blizzard gets back on their feet (or the server fires are extinguished).

Probably tomorrow. With all the rabid b.net kiddies be prepared to check early and check often. F5 is your friend.

It did that before too, and then it started working again. Not sure if they found some more keys or if it was a mistake.

Blizzard/Fileplanet should embrace the torrent.  I cannot even imagine the peak throughput they get trying to deliver a 2gig file to a hundred thousand catasses simultaneously.

They must have a hell of a pipe because there are at least 500 dl's going and I'm pulling 240KB/s (note capital B).

I got a key and was waiting in line with the fileplanet downloader but it aborted with a network error and now every server I try to connect to gives me a network error instantly when I try to connect. Are others having that problem?

The Blizzard beta signup is working now, at least it is for me and my brother. Give it a try, reload a few times.

I thought I was being clever and going with the flow so when I went to dl the client I switched to IE, which I never use anymore, because I know that have that silly client for administering the queue and got that same error.  On someones advice I switched back to firefox and got through right away and was DL'ing in seconds.  1 Gig down, 1 to go.

Got the blizard downloader thingie from worldofwarcraft.com...

It finally gave me an esitmate of 18 hours to send me 2.5 gigs.

The EQ2 patcher downloaded 4 gigs in about 5 hours... and predicted it would do so within the first couple minutes or so.

*blink*  Bit Torrent is great for P2P filesharing.  It is not great as a primary means to download stuff, especially when you force use of a crappy in-house BT client.

Alkiera
Still need a key before I can do anything.  Blah.

Bah, I got up to 2.1 gigs and then my router crashed.  Had to start it all over again.

Yet another reason to fucking hate Fileplanet. I will have much ranting to do in the morning.

Signups on Blizzard's site was up briefly but seems to be down again. I managed to get an account created at around 8:30 PM Pacific Time.

Hey, they are torrenting.  Ignore my previous rant.  But now I can rant about the fact that I'm giving 32KB/s up and only getting 10KB/s down.  You leeching bastards!

does anyone know where i might be able to find JUST the torrent info?  The Blizzard torrent client SUCKS ASS.

Supposedly, if you can find the announce info, you can use pretty much any client you want, but i will be damned it i can find any announce url that actually works in another client.

There are more account keys on www.worldofwarcraft.com right now. Go get one (or three).

I used firefox and skipped to the front of the line as well. Firefox's inability to handle activex controls seems like a big win on fileplanet, where the non-activex pages seem to be poorly written and bypass the delays. Still downloading at 50k/sec so I guess I'll have it by morning. You can also get the torrent downloader from the https://signup.worldofwarcraft.com link and I've noticed the signup form has been up and down like a whore's drawers all night. I managed to register there as well as getting my fileplanet key but then the site started timing out when I tried to register a friend an account and I couldn't get the pages to reload when I tried. Poor Blizzard's web server must be near meltdown tonight.

Suprnova's got a torrent up.  That's what I'm using, screw Blizzard's client.

In case anyone cares, the open beta seems to accept players from outside the U.S. - at least it let me register and start downloading.

(This post has been a sneaky attempt at getting more people to add to the bittorrent suppliers, so that my download speed can grow larger than my upload speed.)

Semi-obscure technical note.  The Blizzard torrent client doesn't support rate-limiting, so if you have asymmetric bandwidth allowance (and who doesn't) your upstream is going to get saturated, preventing the ACK packets on your downloads from pushing through, effectively limiting your downstream rate to your upstream rate.  I found having a 128Kb down connection vs the 1Mb down I pay for really sucked and it was scheduled for a 13 hour download.  You can download a trial/free version of Netlimiter to throttle the upload and clear up space for ACKs.  After I did that, it took 3 hours.

Actually, just having come back to the apartment I see that the Suprnova torrent is sucking ass too.  I went to FilePlanet, sucked it up on the wait time, and now I'm getting around 350KB/sec.  I'd advise going this route, because even with the slightly faster Nova torrent it was still going to take over a day.

I was reading the boards that must never be named and it seems there is much confusion about torrents.  No one cooperates, no one shares.  They don't know what a port is and  they all seem terrified that they will be 'hacked'.  It's all very amusing... though ever so slightly sad.  One nice fellow has even accused Blizzard of keylogging or something.  

Funny how even 11 year olds can figure all this out when they want to 'liberate' some music...

Jesus Fucking Christ Jumped Up On A Stick.

I have much hate. First off, Fileplanet and Blizzard? Fire your fucking web admin teams, as well as the marketing guys behind both those web sites. You are fucking idiots of the highest order, Clueless Armatis. You are fighting a thermonuclear war with fucking plastic sporks from KFC. You have already seen the traffic deluges that come with giving out WoW beta keys, stress tests, etc. Apparently, YOU LEARNED NOTHING. Bandwidth ain't cheap, but it IS easy to get, if you just try. There is no fucking reason for such a significant meltdown. Open beta should be considered the most important marketing opportunity pre-release that will ever exist. It isn't a test, it's a free demo; don't try to pretend otherwise. To not have adequate capacity from EITHER site is an unforgiveable sin. It isn't like this whole thing was in a vaccum. If you didn't realize your bandwidth was inadequate after the stress test, what makes you think you'll be able to handle all the simo-web logins of the release consumers trying to register?

Secondly, Fileplanet, you are the devil's bollocks. Fuck you in your stupid asses. You want me to pay X amount of dollars for no-wait downloads, yet you can't even manage to keep your web servers running to take signups? Yeah, I have confidence in that. Why would I pay for this when almost everything you offer is offered somewhere else for free AND I don't have to deal with your ads or spam?

Third, your marketing guys missed a HUGE opportunity. Sell ad banners on your errors pages. The page views alone on the number of fucking error pages would have been some decent change. You missed the boat.

Blizzard, your BT client is abysmal. You've known this the entire beta. I have yet to hear one person say a good thing about it. Yet still, I see no alternative being offered by Blizzard 2 weeks before release. Which means IF (big if) they do release with such a method, it will be likely largely untested. When consumers have to patch on release day (AND THEY WILL), it will be a shit storm of stupidity. Why is it I can grab a torrent of the open beta client and get 80 kb/s when the best you can give me is 30 kb/s? Oh yeah, because your client sucks. There are only about 3 billion BT clients available you could have stolen the net limiting idea from, and this is the best you can do? Why would I want to spend money with you again?

Open beta is a marketing opportunity. Let me say that again. It is a marketing opportunity. Causing this much consternation for someone to get a free demo will equal lost sales. I'm sure it won't matter in the end, since you'll be dancing in your hats made of money with the 200k subscriptions I expect you to get. But whatever.

((hands Haemish a Valium and a Nutter Butter))

I hope those help, friend.

heh, just decided to install netlimiter and leave the Blizzard client running while i sleapt.  Grabbed the entire thing in about 9 hours, which is still shit, but better then the day and a half it was predicting while it flooded my upload :(

Now, i have to ask the question: Who the fuck designed their installer?!  Either I am doing something wrong, or this piece of shit is the slowest fucker on earth.  It has litterally taken the installer more then 15 minutes to copy files, and it is STILL only about 2/3 of the way done!??!  Its on my fucking HARDDRIVE for christ sake, why is it taking so long.

Lovely rant, Haemish.  You never disappoint.

God Damn Haemish.  Nice going.

Fuck me I want some popcorn chicken.

You're telling me.  I've done network installs of heftier software than this that didn't take this long.

At many points my upload speed has been higher than my DL speed, on DSL. That's just nonsense.

Hmm...

Noticed the upload and download both seemed capped at 4-6K per connection... with a maximum of what appears to be 25 connections total in the box.  So.. if you happen to get 25 arseholes that have no desire to share the file and only download, then you get screwed.

I started downloading last night at 9 and it should be done in another couple of hours according to the time stamp from the am.. which I am adding a couple of hours too.

If this keeps up at release (as in a patch is a full client download) then that little ditty will kill any investment I wish to make with the game.  I can see them pushing a 100mb patch out that way though.

Nice rant Haemish!

Just wanted to say that I managed to create an account from work this morning at the Blizzard site, and judging by the comments here, it looks like I can look forward to waiting at least another day for the client to download.

Oh well, one more day to work this week for me.

I started around 6:00 AM, and it's 3:00 PM now. 10% complete. I'm not a hurry or something, but that's just weak.

If you're using the blizzard downloader, I highly recommend getting Net Limiter, or something similair.  I initially tried to dowload the game through their client, and it raped my upstream like mike tyson at a beauty pageant.

See my post above.  As long as you're willing to wait in line you can get it off of FilePlanet in about 2 1/2 hours.

Meh. I'm getting 6kb/s, and that's just not gonna fly. Tomorrow is payday for me, which means I buy a new PS2 (a solid week of GTA:SA wasted my current one, though it plays anything but that game well), and blow the rest on magic online drafts. It's not hard to find a way to buy amusement when you don't worry about things like saving, or rent, or utilities, or food, or even petrol (yes I have it good atm, I'm going to milk it for at least a little bit longer before I have to face the real world in full - my mum even has plates, utensils, towels and shit bought and put aside so I don't have to cop those costs when I DO move out).

How exactly does one get a job as a gigolo?

See: Deuce Bigalow (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0205000/), American Gigolo (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080365/), and Pootie Tang (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0258038/)

(http://home3.inet.tele.dk/culture/video/fun1.jpg)

Your derailment skills, sir, are legendary.

Righ downloaded the game using my Fileplanet account.   The darn thing is corrupt.  I checked out some boards and quite a few people are beginning to complain about the same thing... all from Fileplanet downloads.

I had the same problem...until I realized I was using winrar and the fileplanet site said specifically to use winzip.  Used winzip, and the zip wasn't corrupt.  Hopefully this helps.

I had the same problem...until I realized I was using winrar and the fileplanet site said specifically to use winzip.  Used winzip, and the zip wasn't corrupt.  Hopefully this helps.

I asked him what he used and he did the same thing as you because, as we all know, winzip is the spawn of satan.  It's fine now, thanks!

I asked him what he used and he did the same thing as you because, as we all know, winzip is the spawn of satan.  It's fine now, thanks!

Okay, first day's impression:  This thing is going to kill off EQ2 (okay, maybe that's a stretch, it well destroy SOE's number of subscribers, though), and EQ2 really deserves to get killed by it.

Tonight, the lag is horrible. Its like release day, tons of new players and lots of lag.

Lets hope they get this worked out before release.

Same dance, different song.

It's like a ski-lift coming off the cables. I can't wait to watch.

First Impression: The game is slow ...

And I was not even able to log in yet, the installer is running for 47 Minutes now and I am at roughly 25-30 % (Bastard won't even show hard  percentage values for the download pregression)

Good thing I have to work late today ...

Quick note on this. If you are running Windows XP, you can simply use the Extraction Wizard. Right-click on the file and choose Extract All... That will work. No need to install WinZip, but if you already did, use it. By the way, if you install WinZip, it takes away the WinXP extraction option on the right-click menu and replaces it with its own. It is the spawn of satan and totally unneccessary. I prefer WinRAR.

Additional note on Winzip: apparently you want to be using the absolute latest and greatest Winzip if you want to unzip using Winzip zippily. I had an older version (never needed to upgrade), I generated a corrupt file. Kicked the cat, google'd the problem, found a thread about it, downloaded the newer Winzip (I wonder how or if they actually make any money?), unzipped, and it installed fine.

And yea, I don't like their bit-torrent system. I learned more about it in this thread than in five years of hype. I'll be getting NetLimiter before launch to prevent others leeching more than I can leech from them.

Thanks, Soukyan, he did something and is fine now.  I don't know if he bothered to download winzip, it would be very unlike him.  WinRar is much better, yes.  I even emailed Blizzard in a hissy fit and told them they some people have purchased products to avoid the insidious winzip.  No reply, but then, no one ever seems to reply to my hissy fit emails.  I'm still waiting for Mr. de Klerk to get back to me about that whole apartheid mess.

I abandoned my character on 6 last night, it was way too laggy and I actually crashed a few times.  I made a new character to play with Righ on some RP server because there was almost no population.  I've been on other rp servers and usually can't tell the difference much... but that general chat was jumping.  "Follow the light of your torch", they said when someone asked directions, "May the  Gods  be at your back".  It was a bit scary, but very quick.

I started the Blizzard downloader last night. This morning I was at 388MB of 2.5GB and still had 1 day 10 hours left. I don't have a problem with the download because I'm at work, and won't be able to log in until Thursday night at the earliest.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the point of BitTorrent to allow everyone's computer to act as a distribution point? Everyone in this thread appears to have turned off or limited the ability to upload.

It is a common thing. Most people on P2P networks and a lot of people using BT will choose to leech and not share the wealth. Why? Selfishness, I guess. At least that's the case for me.

Why am I selfish about it? Because I pay my own hard-earned money for my bandwidth every month and I'd rather not have it sucked to shit by poorly written BT clients. Most of the time, the uploading totally crushes the shit out of my connection speed. It causes downstream ACKs to get dropped (bad bad bad) and in general pisses me off. I can run BT and not severely impede my connection performance thereby allowing me to actually multitask online (since I have broadband for this exact reason), but that requires me to go into leech mode and strictly and explicitly limit the upstream to others. Supposedly, this causes worse performance for the entire sharing network. I don't buy it because as soon as I limit my upstream, the downstream is screaming fast. Why? No more dropped packets due to ridiculous amounts of egress traffic. When BT client programmers can learn how to stop destroying the ingress on a connection, then I'll more heartily embrace their community "sharing" frame of mind. Until then, nobody gets a free ride on my buck. I still get the best speeds from NNTP, HTTP or FTP downloads. I would like for BT to be able to match or beat those, but some work still needs to be done on it. God, that was ranty. Bleh.

Actually if you right-click drag and drop the archive, you'll see both options appear, though there's no point in using the built in Windows XP version since it's so fricking slow. I don't like the WinRAR UI so I stick with WinZip for Zipping and haven't had any problems with it in all my years of using it.

The masses of people wanting to play the open beta are very confused by BT.  The forums are filled with complaints...   they don't know what to do.  They are threatening to cancel their orders because of it... we all know how well that works.  Even more people have subscribed to FP in an effort to download as quickly as possible without having to wait in a queue for the public servers or use the extremely complex and confusing BT. (OMG! What's a port?  I don't think my internet has ports!!!)  I read 7 posts on the VeryBad boards from people who actually upgraded to Founder's Club because they thought the download would be faster.

WoW's silly season is in full force and, as a result, FP is having the month of it's life.

I started the Blizzard download last night at 6PM. I walked away and didn't check it until this morning, and it was at around 1.1 GB downloaded over a period of 14 hours. So, basically that's around 80MB an hour. Slow to be sure, but not intolerable for me, considering the size and the demand. By the time I get home tonight the thing should be either ready or damn close. Sadly, somebody already took Paelos in the Beta, which is odd considering I'm the only one I've ever heard of using the name, but se la viz. I'm Paylos in the Beta now.

So I take it you sell shoes at deep, deep discounts?

Besides the selfishness issue, there's the problem that most home users have asymmetric connections meaning their download speed is faster than their upload speed. This has been true since the days of 56K modems (before that modem connection speeds were symmetric). So for example, if you have a 384 Kbps ADSL line, that means your download speed is 384 Kbps but your upload speed is only 128 Kbps. And your upload speed "eats into" your download speed as a percentage of your upload speed rather than the actual upload bps. For example, if you are uploading and downloading on the above connection, at equilibrium you'll use half your download bandwidth for downloading and half your upload bandwidth for uploading or 192 Kbps downloading and 64 Kbps uploading which unfortunately doesn't add up to 384 Kbps anymore. So people using these peer-sharing programs are suddenly seeing their download speeds drop in half or more when they are forced to upload as well which freaks them out causing them to do whatever they can to cut off or slow down the upload rate (hence all the suggestions to use NetLimiter, which is a great program, BTW).

Ha, that got a chuckle from me this morning. Good show.

And yes I hate that iteration of my name.

Okay,

I am very impressed with the opening intro to each race.  Nice that it uses a live in game camera.

Negative so far.. patching is via bittorrent also, which just sucks, though hopefully it will not be that big of a deal after the game is live.  Mainly if the patch is less than 80mb, as I would hazard a guess the net limiters would not bother for that small of a pull.

I almost hesitate to post it, but I had no problems with downloading, patching or getting an account key.

Caveat: I torrented the client "in the wild" on Sunday or Saturday.

The first day (Monday), the signup page at Blizzard was hammered as expected, so I gave up.  I meant to sign up in the morning since I heard keys were limited, but I forgot.  Got home at like 9pm EST and signed up without a hitch. By 10pm I was installed, patched and playing.

It was fairly laggy as expected for a stress test, though the client handles it well.  One big issue seems to be that you get 30 second or more lag often while looting.  This got better and worse, but everyone seemed to be complaining about it.

I only crashed once, and it was while I wasn't doing anything interesting (running).  So it's definitely not perfect.  Guildwars was more stable on my machine.  But that could just be because my machine likes GW more or something.  Not enough data to say.

Weird, once I got on last night, I experienced NO lag whatsoever.

I'm on Central Test 28 server, because my wife had already made a character there. Behold the mooly booty of Haemcow, Tauren Warrior. He even has his own theme song (sung to the tune of CatDog):



I'll try to front page something encapsulating my experiences so far, including my rant above.

Don't tease us. Just make up something and frontpage it. You can always fill it in with "facts" later.

My saturated upstream was killing my down, so I Netlimited to give it 1Kb/s of breathing room.  That's really all you need to get the ACKs out.  Other than that, I was a sharin foo'.  I was going to say that the real problem with this setup is that bittorrent depends on people keeping their download clients open for a while, even after they have the file, and that this one exits out.  But on reflection, the download takes between 3 and 42 hours, so it really doesn't matter.

Hm, I had to limit my upload to 16 kb/s to maximise my upload, managed to get up do 120 kb/s download an got the client in about 6 hours over night,

but the 1 hour it took to install is still somewhat astonishing ..., anyone got an idea what the reason for that might be ?

Extraction of the client files perhaps? Or perhaps they're running checksums or CRC checks on their own files during the installation process? Not sure. I do know that earlier phases installed far quicker.

Hmm, you're right. I was thinking that it had something to do with the Mac and PC files being bundled together, but that was also the case during the first Stress Test and I don't remember waiting 30 mins for the install program to finish.

Maybe someone just fudged up the new install files.

Hmmm..That was easy. I was just about to pass on this thing, but I'm downloading from FilePlanet right now at 282kb a sec with 2 1/2 hours to go. No wait time either -- This is on one of the non subscription servers.

DL'd the client overnight from fileplanet.  It was apparantly going at 1 MB/s for most of the time, but I didn't really believe that.  It wasn't too much trouble overall.  

I really like the game so far- I'm not a fan of WC3, but WoW seems to have some of the old Blizzard pizazz & polish that I remember from their earlier games.  Lag was a bit of a problem (20 second loot time occasionally) but it wasn't game breaking.
I'm tempted to subscribe atm, but a lot remains to be seen.  The quest system and the atmosphere is very strong.

I agree that they didn't handle open beta very well, but I don't think that it'll really dent their potential subscriber base; many people have been waiting years for this game.

Front paged my rant, for those who don't check the front page (http://www.f13.net/index2.php?subaction=showfull&id=1100125293&archive=&start_from=&ucat=2&).

If the game weren't at least decent, the frustration would've made me never buy a Blizzard product ever.

Yeah, it's decent. It's been running extremely well, looks cool, but it's not sparking enough interest for me to buy it --- I've played it before, I don't feel like playing it again. "Same game, different setting" and all that. I'm glad I got a chance to see it for myself though. Probably would have caved in and bought it on release day if I didn't.

I know I'll probably get flamed for this, but what the hay.  I seriously don't understand how you could write a 1,000 word diatribe railing against Blizzard for blowing a marketing op.  FOR BLOWING A MARKETING OP.  I mean, who cares?  I think the game is fun, if the hassle is too much for you, just wait until it's released like normal people do.  I just don't understand where the anger is coming from, judging by your last post in which you seem to indicate you like the game.  Just saying is all.

That about sums it up for me.  Best MMOG I've ever played except for City of Heroes, and I've only got time for one of these things so you lose, WoW.

Not a bad game at all, though.  In fact, pretty damned good.

ETA:  I did have fun kill stealing from a group of French jackasses this morning.  Trying to complete a quest where I have to kill a certain named bad guy.  I go to the spot where this group of French players are sitting around waiting for him to spawn.  I ask to join their group to finish the quest and they tell me to piss off.  Guy spawns, I jump on his ass before they do and get the kill.

It's good to be a jingoistic American dick sometimes.

Tip: If you start ranting and pulling your hair out over a *beta*, step away from the keyboard and give your butthole some breathing room.

Hint: Bandwidth is dirt cheap. You can pull a gigabit sustained for $35k/mo.

And as for WoW, there sure is a lot of shit in Guild Wars that looks like it's from WoW. It's like all the Blizzard people that worked on WoW quit a year into the project and rebuilt it (without the suck) as Guild Wars how they thought WoW should have been done.

It must be somewhat of a blow to blizzards "coder ego" that they can't manage to match the free bit-torrent clients. I certainly can't see any reason for them to flood the upload channel, although I can see linking DL to UL as a leech prevention mechanism.

Are you saying you think GW is WoW w/o the suck?  Whoa.  Radical posish there pal.

HRose?

Actually I doubt it given the crappy quality of their B.Net client interfaces. They simply don't have the network programming talent. In fact, their WoW sign-in architecture is so mind-boggling stupid you would think their network architect was missing from class when multiplying fractions was taught. I tried to login a couple of days ago during prime time (yeah I'm an idiot) and I literally had failures at 5 different points during the sign on procedure. The messages you get are:

Connecting
Authenticating
Handshaking
Success
Connected

and at each of those steps you can fail and get disconnected including the last one oddly enough. Checking things out with a packet sniffer it looks like you get passed through 3 different machines just to do the initial connection. Totally bizarre.

Or switch to the last free version of Powerarc. A friend turned me on to this and it blows the doors off winzip. Search the web for powarc60.exe, it's still up for download a ton of places. It went payware but version 6.0 is still free and works on every zip file I've ever had to deal with.

This is open beta, two weeks from release. These are issues that could very well affect the release. The BitTorrent client, which they continue to say is not going to be the only patching option is one problem. And it's a huge problem, because they are expecting people who may never have played an MMOG to be patient for this kind of shit, all the while paying for the privilege of getting kicked in the junk every patch. Their web servers WILL be where you register your account. How many times has it been lamented that this industry continues to make THE SAME FUCKUPS every single goddamn time? This is a precursor to those same fuckups. If you can't get it right in open beta, either because you are too cheap to buy the bandwidth or to arrogant to think your shit don't stink, I will bitch about it.

It's what I do. Saying "it's beta" at this point, when certain things like the BitTorrent client have been brought up for months and months doesn't cut it anymore.

This bitch is gold. No more excuses.

Well I guess I was comparatively lucky. Got about 45k each way and had the whole thing after starting it overnight.  Initially I was only getting about 10k but on the advice of the client, I opened the specified ports on my router and got 45k.

The client does, however, suck massive donkey balls nonetheless.  People are not going to be so understanding if this is what they have to use when it goes live.  They better do something in time for release or they'll have a real shitstorm on their hands.

The game? I'm really enjoying it so far.  Runs very nicely on my mid to low-grade system.  Not really much lag while fighting though I've run into some strange lag when looting or finishing quests.  Stability has been mixed.  Most of the time its rock solid but when I go to a couple areas (like the Orc/Troll newbie dungeon), crashes galore.  I don't need to spend a lot of time there, but I sure hope I don't see this in an area more significant.

It can't be HRose.  That English isn't broken enough.

Do you know where you're posting? The point isn't to enjoy these games, but garner enough information to rant about them while avoiding tasks at work.

Well, he DID use the word 'butthole' in his post.  Give him a little credit.

If you are using XP, you can use the built in compression library... unless you've installed something else that's fubar'd it. In my case, that would be StarDock's Object Desktop. Windows software is regularly a pile of festering shite, and uninstalling the shite never cleans up the system. As with WinZip, so with Object Desktop. Mea maxima culpa, must remember to only install games on the game computer.

As for the "open beta" - I have no illusions about the status. The game is launched, we don't have to pay yet, and they will wipe once at the point they cut the indigent people off. You can either view this as a trial sample to decide if you want to buy it, or you can look at it as "5% extra free!" if you are going to buy it. There is no "test" at this stage, and they can expect it to be judged as a finished product. Their BT client is so craptastic, they may as well stream Xmodem over TCP/IP.

It's more fun than I expected, and it has shiny appeal. Cows are fun, but you need to make a dwarf and go see the comedy routine at the mortar team halfway between starter town and newb town #2.

The Riflemen there are pretty funny too.  Actually, a lot of their lines are straight from the figures in WC3, when you click them alot.  The Dwarven Mortar Team shouts "Mooortaaar Combaaat!!", "Hey, catch this!" etc.  

Alkiera

It's silly, but I like hearing "Zug Zug."

I'm still hunting for 'I can see my house from here'.  No joy on the zeppelins.

My take so far

I am a sucker, payed 15 bucks for fileplanet for a key and a download.. a download I tried 3 goddamn times, that was corrupt each and every time, yeah i tinkered with my firewall, used different extraction methods etc.  Finally drove to a friends house and burned the extracted files to 5 cds then put them on my magic box and hit install... thinks went fine after that.   Fileplanet your are fucking tools.  One thing I appreciated about the L2 beta.. well the only thing really, was that they gave you the option to download the client as one huge file or as 4 or 5 smaller files. It is real kick to the nuts when after 2.5 gigs of downloading, one file is corrupt and you have to download the whole thing all over instead of just downloading the one file that has "issues".

How is the game.. as I lay in bed this morning nursing the flu and dreading my court date this thursday something came into my mind.  Jell-O... yep Jell-O.  This is all the same stuff, just a different flavor of Jell-O.   I like the flavor of this Jell-O though, after a long time of eating the same flavor of Daoc Jell-O, the new WoW Jell-O is pretty tasty... but in the end it is still Jell-O.  

Last sunday and early last week the lag on the server i am on was fine... there would be some, but i would think "oh it is beta after all" however as the week progressed it became the soul crushing sort of lag.  The lag where you know you are dead, but there you are on screen still looting number 3 of 10 widgets while 8 critters beat on you.  Apparently I made a huge mistake on server selection as PST pvp 9 seems to have several metric fucktons of players.

I am playing an undead rogue, got it up to 21, the instances are ok... some are nifty actually.. but nifty turns to annoying pretty rapidly in the mmog world for me.  I dig the class, like the skills.. though there seems to be a serious shortage of daggers in the WoW world.  Had some minor pvp experiences, along with many duels.   The pvp seems fast, no /stick and no /face is a great thing, and many Daoc players are tripping on that curb, while the EQ zek players are feeling right at home.  

I think it is safe to say that, given that this is the first melee stealth class i have ever played (SB shadow mage doesn't count in my book) I suck.  Not painfully, but I suck.  I am a southpaw and have gotten by using the mouse in my left hand and using the number pad for movement in all my past pve and pvp mmogs.  For this game I have had to switch to using the mouse in the right hand so i can mouse look strafe etc. while hitting my 'styles' and 'finishing moves' or whatever they are called.  So not only am i pretending to be ambidextrous, I am also playing a wholly unfamiliar style of gameplay to me. .. practice makes perfect... I will be eating this flavor of Jell-O for sometime I think.


-me

Did anyone here get a beta account and decided to stop playing?  I did not get to sign up because unforseen circumstances.  I would like to try WOW because if I don't, I won't buy it.  If anyone could PM an account name and password they decided not use that would be great.  Thanks guys.

Jell-O is made out of boiled animal bones/skin/etc.

I guess I was under the impression that these are the steps involved in any such connection, and that Blizzard was simply being more explicit.  And I would consider login problems to be par for the course in a stress test.