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Title: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: Johny Cee on September 12, 2008, 06:39:53 AM
If people don't mind disclosing this info,  what are your billing rates by the hour?

I ask just because I'm wading through a pile of billings right now,  and the partners here bumped up everyone's billing rate by 15-20% which is making billing on budget a fucking nightmare.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: Kitsune on September 12, 2008, 09:06:09 AM
Well, for IT work I charge 37.50 an hour for home users, 50 an hour for businesses.  When the work requires that I go on-site to their location, I charge the above rate for the first half-hour, then charge the hourly rate afterwards.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: Abagadro on September 12, 2008, 09:10:58 AM
My last billing rate in 2005 was $170 an hour. If I'd have keep going in private practice I imagine I'd be at around 200 right now.

It's so dependent upon market and experience though I'm not sure how helpful that is.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: taolurker on September 12, 2008, 09:37:02 AM
Well, for IT work I charge 37.50 an hour for home users, 50 an hour for businesses.  When the work requires that I go on-site to their location, I charge the above rate for the first half-hour, then charge the hourly rate afterwards.

I was actually just considering asking whether this also included Tech, because I also do that on a Part Time basis, with hourly billing.

Your prices are super cheap though Kitsune... The company I work for is $115 for the first hour, and then $50 for each additional hour.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: murdoc on September 12, 2008, 09:42:05 AM
Well, for IT work I charge 37.50 an hour for home users, 50 an hour for businesses.  When the work requires that I go on-site to their location, I charge the above rate for the first half-hour, then charge the hourly rate afterwards.

That is super cheap imo.

I get billed out anywhere from $95 - $120 per hour and I would be considered fairly junior. That does reflect the economy here a bit though. Companies that get me for under $100 think that's a bargain.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: Nebu on September 12, 2008, 09:49:57 AM
My last billing rate in 2005 was $170 an hour. If I'd have keep going in private practice I imagine I'd be at around 200 right now.

It's so dependent upon market and experience though I'm not sure how helpful that is.

$200 is a bargain for a good attorney.  You should raise your rates!


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: Oban on September 12, 2008, 09:56:32 AM
for short term projects I charge a daily rate of one thousand for in country and 1500 for work outside the country.  For medium term, a few months projected, I charge 250 an hour and explain that I rarely charge for more than four hours per day.  For long term, I charge 150 an hour plus 15-20% for work outside north America.  


You should always charge a premium of at least 25% for services without a condom or d&o insurance.

Make sure you charge the apropriate taxes for not only the area you work in but also the area you reside.  Delaware corps make this easier in north America since every accountant knows how to handle the forms.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: Ingmar on September 12, 2008, 12:03:47 PM
Our networking specialist guy we use here (because nobody in-house has enough experience with it) gets $200/hour and is well worth it. Fancy Cisco certs mean you can charge what you want basically.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: Oban on September 12, 2008, 06:09:41 PM
Engineering Certs, not MickeySoft, are godly.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: TheWalrus on September 12, 2008, 06:33:30 PM
Mechanic, 75/hr depending on who it is.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: slog on September 12, 2008, 07:24:18 PM
I'm billed out at $375 an hour.

No, I'm not worth it.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: schild on September 12, 2008, 07:34:44 PM
There's a special ring of hell for all you economic sycophantic fuckers.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: slog on September 12, 2008, 07:41:12 PM
There's a special ring of hell for all you economic sycophantic fuckers.

Are you kidding?  My entire job is to look at projects and tell people why they suck at whatever it is they are doing.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: Oban on September 12, 2008, 07:46:14 PM
Are you kidding?  My entire job is to look at projects and tell people why they suck at whatever it is they are doing.

Is that you Frederick?


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: schild on September 12, 2008, 07:54:48 PM
There's a special ring of hell for all you economic sycophantic fuckers.
Are you kidding?  My entire job is to look at projects and tell people why they suck at whatever it is they are doing.
Thus proving anyone can do anything?

I kinda want to be an astronaut now.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: Oban on September 12, 2008, 07:59:16 PM
You could raise 600k to make an MMORPG, who the hell would want to be an astronaut?


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: schild on September 12, 2008, 08:07:55 PM
Hah, touche.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: Selby on September 12, 2008, 08:41:28 PM
My company bills for engineering staff at the rate of $150/hr or so.  I don't make anywhere near that though, but don't really care.  Other companies I work with and suppliers charge anywhere between $100-150/hr.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: TheWalrus on September 12, 2008, 08:44:13 PM
You should shoot for VP Schild. I hear you're qualified.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: Triforcer on September 12, 2008, 08:45:10 PM
There's a special ring of hell for all you economic sycophantic fuckers.

Are you kidding?  My entire job is to look at projects and tell people why they suck at whatever it is they are doing.

You are schild's gimmick account?   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: Kitsune on September 12, 2008, 09:08:48 PM
I am super cheap, yeah, 'cause I'm working for myself.  As I have no overlord taking the lion's share of my fees, my rates are going right to my pocket.  Minus what the government takes, of course.  So I don't feel very inclined to fuck over some little grandma whose idiot grandkids installed Limewire and infected her computer to the gills by charging her four hundred bucks to clean it up.

Most of my service calls wind up taking 1-2 hours, so that's $75-112.50 per home user, $100-150 per business.  Doing wageslave work as a system admin would make me more money, but then I'd have to put up with people who I couldn't simply walk away from if they turned out to be douches.  Reign in hell, serve in heaven, etc.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: apocrypha on September 15, 2008, 03:08:07 AM
For freelance photography I charge £25/hour (~$50) plus travel expenses for location work. Charge the same rate for post-processing too and that's the tricky one because most people have no idea just how long retouching can take.

I also do some freelance assistant work which is very useful experience and for making contacts but unfortunately that only pays £50/day which sucks balls, but such is the profession :/


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: DraconianOne on September 15, 2008, 04:51:23 AM
I charge about £150 an hour and you buy dinner and drinks. I discount for block bookings and overnight stays but don't do groups or animals. 

No tongues.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: Paelos on September 15, 2008, 09:05:50 AM
I usually do $25 and hour plus expenses for tax prep work, but I'm a young CPA. Many charge a lot more.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: Merusk on September 15, 2008, 09:20:12 AM
Industry standard is chating stuff per square foot, not per hour for homebuilders.  So, .50 up to 3k s.f. and .60-.75 after that depending on what a pain in the ass the project looks to be.    But I don't do side work anymore.  Fuck all you who think construction management is my job after I hand off the prints, we didn't negotiate that in.  Ever.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: Cyrrex on September 15, 2008, 09:34:56 AM
You could raise 600k to make an MMORPG, who the hell would want to be an astronaut?

If anyone around here decides to do this, I'd like to apply for the position where I stand around and point out all your mistakes.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: Jimbo on September 16, 2008, 08:21:51 PM
$24.52 an hour, but I think you get charged $50 to $120.  HCA is evil, but they gave me my first civilian job, wish I had done some research first on where I took a job.


Title: Re: Question for attorneys & hourly professionals
Post by: slog on September 19, 2008, 05:20:51 AM
You could raise 600k to make an MMORPG, who the hell would want to be an astronaut?

If anyone around here decides to do this, I'd like to apply for the position where I stand around and point out all your mistakes.

Sorry, I already have that job