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Seriously? No thread?

I've only seen maybe 5 episodes, all scattered about, but they were good. I think I'll pick up the series on Netflix once I'm done with my kungfu movies.

The end of last season helped things get back on track, but I still haven't entirely forgiven the show for that god damn Tritter cop arc. 

Mrs. Naum's favorite show…

What was wrong with Tritter cop arc?

I'm not a fan of the new season. All the new interns are sub-par compared to the original 3.

Yeah but now there's two hotties on the show :awesome_for_real: Also the whole selection process was just the best.

I love House.  The only thing that makes me sort of sad is knowing that Bertie Wooster is probably dead forever.  Don't laugh!  It really did used to be my favourite show!

The Tritter cop arc went on way too long and really didn't accomplish much of anything. The intern arc was great though. I have to admit to having a soft spot for Kal Penn because of Harold & Kumar. The season finale was a really well done way to kill off a character.

Did everyone miss the season premiere?  There wasn't as much House in House as usual.  :awesome_for_real:

Death Changes You.

or to put it another way...

Almost dying changes nothing.
Actually dying changes everything.

 

How is this a spoiler?  I agree with others that you shouldn't need the spoiler tag to discuss events that have already been broadcasted on tv.   :awesome_for_real:

You still get it over here on Gold or ITV3.

Ahhh, the good old days.

That said, I love House.

I wish he'd team back up with Rowan Atkinson and do some more Black Adder. There are tons of historical periods that still need to be covered.

Well if someone missed that episode, it would have been a pretty big fucking spoiler to them.  Figured better safe then sorry.

House is one of my favorite shows ever and I own all 4 seasons on DVD but it's hilarious how everything has to somehow go back to normal at the end of every season. I know people will point to the end of Season 4 (which was lame IMO) but outside of some references to it nothing will really change that much.

The Vogler and Tritter arcs annoyed the shit out of me. Let's build up all this stuff and uh...have it kinda peter out...uselessly. Tritter at least got some words in at the end, Vogler just up and disappeared.

Also, I'm agreeing they haven't done much with the new interns. I refuse to call Kumar...anything but Kumar. They haven't done shit with him really compared to say, Taub.

Who cares about him? More Thirteen :awesome_for_real:

Please not! She can go to your house and satisfy you or whatever, just keep her boring storyline off the screen!

I hear she's bisexual!  It's completely irrelevant to anything, but make sure it's mentioned in every single episode!

In fairness, Sex was always a big thing on House.

You have to pronounce it KOO MAR like the asshole cop in the movie.

The repack of the new episode was missing the last sentence of audio. All I could get was:


Can someone spoiler the rest of that sentence for me?

Does anyone else see the character rotation as Fox attempting to save money by giving previous main characters bit roles. I don't really like the PI and the new helpers aren't nearly as interesting.

I don't know the reason behind it, money, bad writing, whatever, but there is zero character development going on.  Anywhere.  With anyone.  Even House doesn't seem as interesting as usual.  If they're going to get rid of some of the characters they have already developed to a certain degree, they have to give us something on who's left.  As much as I like the House character, his terrible interaction with his peers and employees is one of his main characteristics and one of the reasons I enjoy the show.  Hopefully, it was a brief lull.  If not, then bring back Bertie!

Yeah, it seems to be faultering a bit, and I really wish they'd bring back the original fellowship. They could have done so much more with them.

Hugh Laurie is credited as an exec producer now; is that new this season? Maybe he just wants to do new things with the show.

Last night I caught a rerun of the cancer girl episode. It's like the show used to have teeth, used to be about tough stuff and the humorous ways we deal with it all. Now it's just a bunch of clashing personalities and desperately trying to be different but not succeeding. It's still very watchable to me, but not as interesting as it used to be.

He got the title as part of his pay raise this season.

http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN1235329620080912

The soap that was in the show is completely gone in my eyes. Also, House himself has gone from self-centered and childish to downright aggressive and mean. I'm not getting this whole Wilson  plotline - it's suggested it springs from House's sociopathy, but House isn't a sociopath, he just got a huge, petty-minded ego. He is not evil, he's over-the-top frank which can be seen as evil, but with the difference that you as a viewer knew he was, in essence, right and rational (except occasionally).

This shit is depressing and it's not supposed to be that. Fuck it, House was one of my favorite shows since Rome ended and they cancelled Deadwood.

I don't get why Wilson hates him now unless House really blew him up in the first episode of this season, which I missed.

You need to watch the end of the first episode.

Also, this spoiler tag stuff is stupid.

So Private Dancer from Scrubs is now the new Wilson?

Anyway yeah, we don't need spoiler tags for things that have already happened.  Who goes in a TV thread when they haven't seen the latest episode?

The Wilson thing is another part of House's glacial growth. He's finally realized that he ACTUALLY NEEDS SOMEONE. That very realization is drives him crazy, because he's always prided himself on not needing anything from anyone. Wilson doesn't blame him for Amber's death (he said so at the end of EP1), he just realizes he's been enabling House's shitty behavior.

Eh, Wilson will be back. They're just jerking around the viewer.

And it looks like Thirteen is going to be the center of a whole lot of conflict, maybe even love interest Dr. House…

He can't be in love with Thirteen.  She sucks! 

Also - I'm with Trippy.  I hate these spoiler tags.  I'm clever enough not to go into TV threads if I'm worried about it.  So, yeah, hate them.

 :awesome_for_real:

Was tonight's episode new?

Anyway, it was good.

It was new and it was good.  He did things with his team.  Granted, they were bad things but it's House and that's what we want. 

Not bad, I'm happy they didn't include any Wilson-angst in this episode. It was more similar to the S1-S2 episodes than any in a long time.

It was to make-up for the hour-long Wilson Angst-Fest that will be next week's episode.

Fuck Wilson, the PI is much more interesting a foil for House.

The PI is good but they definitely needs to kill off a few more characters and not introduce any new ones.

Seconded. They could easily do away with Chase and Cameron, they're just taking up screen time and bloating the cast for no good reason - nothing is evolving from having them. Actually, kill off Foreman too, he has always been a rather pointless character in my opinion. House and ducklings damnit, all this middle-management does nothing for the show.

I think the plot arc with House's ex is the best one yet, it showed a different side of House. I found that the Tritter and Vogler ones were abysmal and only enhanced House's mean streak to the point where it was hurtful for the character development. Some series do frustration, despair and grave situations well (FOX, meet HBO), House (the series) doesn't. I'm starting to like the PI though, which is surprising to me.

So. An hour of angst or not?

Was a rerun from the beginning of last season, right after House hired the CIA chick. Patient had a big goiter ("bilateral infraction"?) on his face above his left eye.

Ha, thats a funny coincidence. That was the episiode shown on German TV yesterday. What are the chances.

Boo! :sad:

I'm really digging the PI character. It's a bit of a stretch to keep him out there, but him being romantic competition for Cutty is very interesting. And he's just funny.

Count me in as another fan of the P.I. I also wish they'd move on from Wilson. Right now it's like the ex-girlfriend that still comes over for the occasional romp or whenever she needs something. The relationship is over. Let it go.

LOL at next week's House :awesome_for_real:

Wilson is Watson to House's Holmes.  He's the foil to House like no other character can be.  Everyone else is either too weak or too thin skinned to put up with him.  If they get rid of him, it will be a serious step away from the show's origins.


One hour to new House!   :drill:

ha

Well that was interesting. After everything that it *could* have been, I feel that the baby story was anticlimactic.

I thought it was going to be another bullshit deflection, but apparently they're running with it.

Yeah, I can't imagine one without the other. It's interesting. Hugh Laurie once mentioned that Wilson is the only character House doesn't feel threatened by.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo...

Well I always thought the little House/PI challenge to get to Cuddy first sounded hollow. House, normally, would not stand a chance.

I guess someone at Fox thought "LOL LET'S CHANGE THAT"

Only recently seen House for the first time and me and missus think its bloody good. Waiting for Seasons 1 to 4 box set to arrive now :)

Good to see another aussie soap star has found life after Neighbours too

I liked the new episode.

As did I. The sexual tension between the two characters has been there from the beginning, I just wasn't sure they'd ever do anything with it. I'm not sure it was a good idea but I'm willing to go with them for a bit.

I liked it, but it did make me feel a little bit uneasy.  It seemed very out-of-character for both of them.  Its House, clearly the best written show on network TV, so I'll go for the ride.

This episode was fantastic, who's still watching?  :drill:

I recorded it while I was out celebrating the 30th anniversary of the Jonestown Massacre.

That was, hands down, the best episode of House in a long time.  Still the best written show on television, on so many levels.

I'd go on a ramble, but its time for Dexter. 

I keep missing the new episodes, but I'm still watching the 3 episodes a night on whatever other channel that airs them... TNT?

The wife and I still watch, though we're usually a day or two behind.  Glad to hear that it's a good one though.

We still watch.  I still like it a lot. 

It has picked up the recent few episodes I think. Not seen the latest one yet, but you guys are giving me hope.

They're playing a repeat on USA right now. It's the episode in which House gets shot by the husband of one of his old patients. The entire episode revolves around House taking this case while he's hallucinating as a result of an experimental treatment that Wilson and Cuddy put him on without his knowledge. All the while the husband is in a hospital bed next to House, deconstructing his character and his foibles and his flaws.

It's definitely one of my favorites.

I watched the same one... It's a gooden.

The guy who played Avon Barksdale on The Wire is in this one!

I'm not sure if I liked the episode tonight or not. Something felt off.

Too serious, not enough humor?

Yeah, it wasn't great.  Plus, they've already done 'gun-wielding guy runs into hospital.' 


Definitely. 

I didn't care for it. Almost jumped the shark, in my opinion. Leave the overly melodramatic hostage situations to ER which is thankfully in its death throes.

Amen.  I tried to watch ER once, many years ago, and it was the reason I ignored House as 'just another medical drama' until a co-worker insisted that I watch.  Last night lacked the humor, the tension, the blurring of reality and fantasy ... almost every aspect that makes House a superior show.  It was supposed to be a tense episode, and it never even approached that territory.


After last week's stellar episode, I'll forgive a misstep.  Anyway, I don't pretend that House isn't bad once in a while; even the first two seasons had their share of poor episodes.

House's reaction at the end somehow didn't seem very Housey either.

Given my post in this thread on the 19th- we clearly already had an angry-guy-with-gun episode, and one that was done far better than this was.

Favorite parts mostly included that weird little kid who stayed behind out of curiosity. My friends kept making stoner jokes about him, which later turned into "oh man, that'd be so me" jokes.

(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/99701/House.png)

I liked the episode, but here's the part that I think may make you guys understand why you didn't like it. It was a setup - it was meant to setup the future relationship with Cuddy. Something to make her realize he really does want a relationship, he just doesn't know how to go about it.

Heh. Cuddy knows House. I always thought that it would make sense for them to have a fling after he and Stacy broke up, but House is the poster child of sucking at relationships.
Fuck him? Maybe. Play House with House? I think Cuddy will run for the hills.
Maybe there's a window of weakness after the failed adoption thing. But it's gonna close fast. And it's gonna be a flaming train wreck of epic proportions in the end if they do get together.

Damnit, I'm starting to care deeply about Thirteen.

 :heartbreak:

So does this last episode mean an end to some of the Cuddy/House drama-fest(hopefully)?

Didn't care for this week's episode and had an issue with the ending:

You can go back to eating a high carb diet without being a porker. That's the diet endurance athletes eat.

I doubt it. They've done quite a good job of not jumping the shark with this relationship by continually pushing them together without actually putting them together. House getting her that desk from med school was a fantastic way to push that relationship forward without the typical sleeping together thing. I keep waiting for the jumping to begin, but it hasn't.

Rise, rise from the hiatus etc.

This is getting incredibly stale and weak. The most recent episode (about the special aid teacher) was just abysmal. I don't care for anyone in this series anymore.

Yeh, I realized somewhere in season 2, here I'll write every episode of house from here tell its canceled.
person gets sick -> house + lackey round table -> Misdiagnose leads to patient having unforeseen problem ->  MIR/EKG with 2-3 lackeys having a "meaningful" conversation about whatever the side plot is this week, sick person then falls off MIR/EKG or has some sort of attack -> lackeys break into patients home/place of work -> House comes up with a wacky procedure to save patient, cuddy shoots it down -> surgery scene -> house has magical insight into the real problem and saves the day.

It's not that it's formulaic. I can stand that, as long as it's witty and has decent character development alongside the strict framework for the series. It's that they've over the last season and a half thrown away every development that the three first produced.

And 13 needs to die faster. She's a boring character. She's terminally ill and bisexual. That's a helluva characterization.

Edit; schpellig.

I thought last night's episode was very well done, but I judge the show on its dialogue since every week's episode has an interchangeable plot.

You got to see House acting genuinely evil in order to convince Cuddy to keep her adopted baby, which is a rare act of kindness and not readily apparent.

Me likey, although I agree that the Thirteen bit has almost run its course.  I've never given a shit about Foreman and his holier-than-though attitude, but I can see where they will take this.

I haven't watched this week's episode, but I long ago figured out that House was not about the disease of the week. The disease was just a narrative device to get the characters talking. The show is the dialogue between characters.

Without that insight, I don't think anyone gets through even five episodes. And it -is- the dialog/interaction that's failing me.

This is the only part of the formula that makes me cringe.

Its a show about a borderline psychotic diagnostician savant, and yet there's always three minutes set aside for whiny, guitar-strumming, laughably introspective sandals 'n socks music.

Makes no sense, but I cope.

THE PATIENT POOPS A LUNG.

I laughed my ass off when I read that. In fact... I'm still laughing.

FADE TO AWESOME

You know, maybe it's a failing on my part, but I love House. An episode could probably follow that exact chart but as long as House is a snarky asshole, and all the other characters do their thing, I don't think I'll ever get tired of it. I love this show for the same reason I make fun of people who watch Scrubs. But I don't care.

Here's a question- Where's the Private Eye? The most awesome character ever introduced and they give him less time than that shitty cop who wanted to bust House for drugs.

Having now watched this week's episode, yeah it was week. The Cameron interaction just didn't click for me, maybe because she seems to be playing everything so laid back this season. It's like they are trying to invent reasons to keep her and Chase around.

Did you get your It's Always Sunny in my House?

This... is better than the last few House episodes.

 :awesome_for_real:

The purple nurple of life, eh.  :awesome_for_real:

Fucking  :drill:.  I liked this episode a lot.

That was an excellent episode.

What is up with Cuddy's hair?  It's horrible.  Like a fucking shroud.  It looks more like fur than hair.

Yes, that do has got to go.

She doesn't have time to do her hair in any elaborate style now that she has a kid, and she's going with that "frazzled upper middle class single mom" look!  It's all part of the narrative and gets your viewers to totally relate!  I mean, who HASN'T had that look after a busy morning foisting the kid off on your nanny before going in for a grueling 6 hour day telling the Dr. you're crushing on how he's wrong, but not...

Episode 17 is probably the best of the season.

Could we get that huge fucking pic several posts up enclosed in spoiler tags? Pretty plz.  It was funny when it was posted, but now it's blows up the thread everytime I click "New" posts.

I agree, and took the liberty.   :grin:

I thought the last episode actually gave a pretty good slant on House and Wilson's friendship beyond both just being generally screwed up in different ways.

Glad to see Wilson finally accept House for who he is.  Maybe now he'll quit trying different schemes to get him to change.  I used to wonder why Wilson would tolerate him, but as the Seasons went by I couldn't help but thinking that I wouldn't mind having a friend like House.  Someone that would just tell you how it is no matter what, no bullshit.  I could have have used someone like that when I was younger.

Meh, I don't think Wilson's going to change. Partly because changing that bit of the dynamic wouldn't help the show, remove any tension between Wilson and House or make Wilson a total bitch who just rolls over and takes abuse would ruin the pairing. Wilson's still going to try and fix him because they're friends and Wilson wants House to be happy (in some sort of manner that involves lots of snappy, witty dialogue).

Maybe.  Although, I think if they want to continue going down that road they need to seperate the core of House's personality from his physical pain.

 :ye_gods: :uhrr: :ye_gods: :ye_gods:

Wtf!?

I did not see that coming.

Waiting for the dream sequence to end.

ahahahaha

At first I didn't see the blood nor the gun so I thought "Oh good, they're finally going to make the most boring character on the show somewhat interesting!"

haha guess they went the other way with that

Edit: A big "Oh come on!" for next week's preview

That was a good episode. There's no reason for it to continue next week though as they already figured out the cause.

Edit: Unless it was OD. Heh.

It was Lupus.

What the hell just happened?  It's the first break and shit's going down.

What are you talking about?

He just got to see the part we did 3 hours ago. Silly Pacific coasters.

I assume you haven't seen it yet?

I have. I don't know what "shit's going down" means.

That .jpg is annoying both for its size and the stupidity of its content.

haha oh wow

also I had my WEEKS wrong >_<

not as good a death as Reese.

This episode confuses and infuriates me.  This season is a mixture of suck and stupid.   :heartbreak:

Aw man!

The real reason is actually kinda cool:

 

Somebody at Fox needs a shrink.

I really don't think that his supported of the Obama administration got him fired off of Fox.  Their fictional TV Shows generally have nothing to do with the rest of the network.

Links or it's bullshit.

I thought he asked to be let go so that he can do his political thing?

Thanks for covering that.

Ah, how cool.

God dammit.  A warning would have been nice.  Some shit I don't need to see.  Taub nailed it though...

This. He asked to be let go because of the political opportunity. Which is cool for him (though not sure it's needed) but sucks because I liked his character.

Not sure it's needed?  It's vitally important for our future!

Or something.

Paying taxes has left me cranky and more cynical than usual about our wonderful government.

Back to topic.  I thought the episode sucked, but then I have been thinking House has been going downhill for a while.  The show is entirely predictable, even down to doing unpredictable things just to be the exception to prove the point. 

And it made no sense from a character perspective.  None, zero, nada.  Anyone else, I could buy it from, except Cuddy maybe because she has her new raison d'etre, even the star.  Which, come to think of it, is probably how they'll end the show.

I mostly liked last night.  With the exception that when Chase took a knee I was desperately hoping he'd headbutt her in the ovaries and he didn't.  Damn did Cameron piss me off all through that episode.

Loved the House/Wilson interplay.  Their relationship is very... unique.

This season is awesome.

I thought the (first? I'm a week behind) episode with Amber was really awesome. I liked the concept that House knew he was really talking to his subconsious. The twist was way stretched, but it atleast had an interesting consequence.

Last episode (Season finale?) took a leap into bizarre territory but was cool. I think at the very least I liked the pay off at the end.

Season finale is next week.

They have really have gotten a ton of mileage out of Cut-throat Bitch.

In that case I'm curious to go with the set up of House kicking the meds (4realz), getting it on with Cuddy and the team actually pulling something together themselves for once. It seems like they're tying up a lot of plot ends.

To be fair, these plots have been around since season 1, really. So, theoretically, they want to go another direction. Like actually deal with House having a lovelife instead of flirting with it and him actually having a team that's not anything more than a sounding chamber.

I was actually pretty sure until the end of the last episode that the season finale would be House in a coma or something (having conversations in his head, like the Mos Def character earlier this season) and his team having to diagnose him.

They last two seasons ended with crappy trauma, they don't need to do it again.

But they probably will.

I'm hoping for a kid with a handicap who doesn't want a cure to whatever the handicap is

ahhh hahahaha

But they probably will

Should have guessed it I suppose.  Damned if I wasn't surprised though.

I'm glad it was Wilson in the end.

I'm hoping the first half of next season skips past all of this shit though. Maybe devoting ONE episode to it.

I felt very slightly gypped by the big twist, but it was executed so well I don't think I care.

Yeah they did it really well. Which is sort of what I've come to expect from the show, it doesn't always do great things but it does whatever weird plot idea they decide on really, really well.

To me the best parts were that:

If they played up Foreman a little more as taking over the reigns this could of easily been a Series Finale.  I'm in the schild camp of wanting one or less episodes devoted to his 'condition'.

If this was the final episode of the season, it could have easily been the season finale.

I was more going for the final episode of the whole shebang.

I got this idea from someone else but I'd like it if instead of the final moments interspersed with the wedding footage, we got to see House being taken away from the Hospital by Wilson. On the way to the front door we got to see all the other cast members but not as doctors; instead they're menial workers, custodians, or patients that a long delusional House used to help himself in what was actually a solo diagnosticians practice.

The most epic It Was All A Dream ever  :awesome_for_real:

It doesn't really make sense but I chalk that up to the lupus

I did monetarily think that it was going to turn out that Wilson was actually dead, that it was him who died in the bus crash instead of cut throat bitch and House had been hallucinating him this whole time rather than face up to the fact. That would thus explain his powerful insights into House's personality. Of course then I realised that that was ridiculously stretching things.

RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE!

The teaser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3_1JzZ4CeI) for next season made me go  :drillf:.

I'm so addicted to this show, I might be one of the few but I hope they keep house locked up for more then the premiere.  :oh_i_see:

Really good season opener.

So are we going to have real character development for House?

Don't go back to Princeton, House!  Especially after last season!  The One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest-esque atmosphere suits him.

It kinda feels more like a character reset. I feel like over the past 5 seasons House has gone from Jerk with Heart of Gold to Suicidal Whiner. Too soon to tell (It could all still be a halucination  :awesome_for_real:) but I hope this is their chance to bring House back from orbit.

It wasn't really House as we know it, but Alvi's last lines just had me :cry2:

Even though it would be a very cheesy thing to do, I'm kind of hoping Alvie shows up at the hospital at some point down the road.

Great season opener, now let's just hope it doesn't go back to the same old thing.

I suspect to a large extent it will (the same old thing is still pretty entertaining), but with some variance in the side plots.  Major themes for this season will likely be:

 - House freaking people out by being less of an asshole (but still enjoying that he's freaking people out)
 - More of Cuddy's baby (soon to be toddler)
 - Neurotic newlywed hijinks with Chase and Cameron
 - 13's Huntington's taking a turn for the worse
 - Taub continuing to be an annoying sad sack

That episode was fantastic.

I don't see too much coming out of the Chase/Cameron scenario unless the writers think Cameron feels she can really fix House now. I don't see 13 getting much worse either, no one wants someone like that on a show.

I don't and never have liked Thirteen, regardless of shape. Yes, poor you, you have Huntingtons. Yes, you're bisexual. We got it already.

Anything that gives more screentime to Chase is a good thing though. I love his hair. :wink:

I always thought that if House ever got "fixed" -- even if it was realistically portrayed complete with relapses -- it would make him much less interesting. Zoinks, glad to be proven wrong. I lost track of the series since CutThroatBitch died, but I'm looking forward to this season.

She really is a one (two?) trick pony. The only thing that made her palatable to me is hooking up with Foreman. I still wouldn't miss her if she got the boot.

If you missed last season, holy fuck, go back and watch it.

I'm glad they did that, it's like they got the two least likeable characters of the show out of the way! :awesome_for_real:

You don't like Foreman?

Not really no, I find him terribly dull. He's also a sucker that doesn't want to be like House, but doesn't have the integrity to actually break the circle. I don't really find anything genuinely loveable in him. His best moments were in the twin episodes "Euphoria" when he becomes afflicted, and I mean that in a good way, not because he was terminally ill. :-P

There's something like a series having a too large budget. I don't know if it was because it was partially about video games, but that episode was AWFUL.

The main plot back at the hospital was pretty boring, but I liked all the bits with House.

The last two episodes showed how constricted House is by its premise. The asylum episode was the best episode of the last two or three seasons and in contrast the first hospital episode was one of the worst of the last two or three seasons.

They don't even know what to do with the rest of their cast except to make them feed cues to House. Hell they even paid the Actors of Cameron and Chase for two Seasons without giving them much screentime because they had no use for them.

Basically House being a Crime Procedural (with the illness of the week replacing the murder of the week) seriously hampers them. They have to focus more on the drama and less on the cases (so that each cast member has more to work with), lose most of the cast (crime procedurals don't have many cast members because they don't need them) or have to do something similar as CSI or Law and Order:CI and have A and B cases that they can alternate on between episodes or in episodes.

Right now they can't really decide whether they want to be a procedural (less drama) or a drama show (less illness of the week)

They seem to have ditched 13 and Taub, so maybe they are indeed trying to trim the fat.

I'm a late bird, but that was a good episode. Like, a really good one. Chase showed balls the size of Australia. :heart:

What the fuck is Chase doing back already? I was hoping he'd flee the show.

House has still got it.

And it seems to be rubbing off on Wilson.

They should just ditch everybody except Chase, Wilson and Cuddy

I don't like Cuddy.  Her acting is meh and her hair looks like a shroud or something.  She's unpleasant to watch.

I like that we're getting more Wilson though. I like the actor and the character I actually really like the character, he makes a fantastic contrast to House. All the, "Oh my God, House's patient just took an unexpected and life threatening turn!" Moments were also :awesome_for_real:

I like to watch how tight they can make her clothes yet she can still walk.  I don't understand how she can move at all in them, but somehow she does.

I said almost exactly that a few weeks ago.  It must be painful.  Even her suit jackets are about three sizes too small.  I think they must do it to keep the men on the edge of their comfy chairs dreaming about what will pop out first. 

I can honestly say I've never really noticed Cuddy's tight clothes. Well at least never when House isn't mentioning it. She's hardly unattractive but I'd never buy her as some sex kitten type character, she just isn't hot enough for me to really understand why they'd be constricting her breathing. Then again maybe she's just somehow really, really not my type and most other people notice. Or I'm secretly gay or something.

I'm sure, somehow, I'll get flack for this (but I don't care).

The long and short of it is: Women get jealous.

That was a goddamn awesome episode.

As much as some men are jealous over what other men have, probably.  I should think that a hospital administrator wouldn't want to be constantly rendered breathless and mostly useless considering all the running around she does, but I could be wrong.  I'm not jealous of anyone on TV, really, and I have a feeling that Xanthippe isn't, either.  I'm sure neither of us would mind being a wee tiny bit younger but that's just in general.  Cuddy's hair IS shroud-like and her clothes ARE unsuitable for her job and her acting IS meh.  I have noticed that the men on this forum are much more catty about how women look - what's it called when you lot do it?

You, my old son, are a notorious woman hater and exaggerator!  (just so you don't feel flack-less)

My wife shares your opinion about Cuddy.

So you guys never worked with women who dress too sexy for their job?

So she's jealous?

You're inchin' for a pinchin'. 

Receptionists and random clerks and such, yes, particularly marketing/sales types. Management? Not so much.

The hair got a lot better than about halfway through season 5 though. Back then it was the pinnacle of shroud.

I actually like that there's actually something like character development in this last season. The last 2-3 seasons were very stagnant. And Wilson is finally getting some serious loving too (especially the "Wilson" episode and the one before), because he had degenerated to a point where he was getting an obligatory 1-2 minutes per episode just to try to talk sense into House (and we all know how useful that was).

i made this in like two minutes for a friend. the next day it was on the front page of reddit for, like, a whole day. today it's got like 3000 diggs and it's no. 1 for the last 12 hours.

i figure that means I should share it more.


(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3305/hausr.jpg?)

Awesome man, loved the smiley end  :awesome_for_real:

QFT.

Her hair has been fucking awful at time though.  The Wilson episode was great, I'm a big pussy though it was hard to watch parts of it, felt so bad for him.

I laughed until my face leaked, Samprimary.   :heart:

Fantastic cartoon, Sam. It's funny how formulaic the procedural part of House got within like the 1st season - and yet it's still goddamned compelling. The characters keep me coming back, along with the actors doing it. And yes, that even goes for the House flunkies. The worst the show ever got was when they had that recurring cop character trying to get House jailed. And even that was better than other things on TV.

I thought some might like this:

http://www.wimp.com/housecasting/ (http://www.wimp.com/housecasting/)

It's apparently Hugh Laurie's casting video.

I've been really enjoying this series of House, the last episode was great. The writers have done a fantastic job of moving away from the formulaic stuff of the earlier series and focusing instead on the characters and drama. I'm impressed that they've actually managed that without ruining the whole thing.

First I was all   :ye_gods:  then I was all  :cry2: then I was all  :uhrr: and ended with a  :grin:

 :Love_Letters:

Perfect.

Well, I thought this season was really weak, and I was tempted to just stop watching, but the finale got me back in.

I do hope this next season is their last. I'd like to see them pull it together and make a kickass last season and go out on a high note instead of running it into the ground.

Funny, I found this season to be a great evolution of the previous seasons. Having the medical cases fade away into background noise really helped with the well-done "House goes off his meds" storyline. Admittedly, some other parts took a back seat to that; I can't imagine anyone still giving a rats ass about the thirteen stuff for instance, so whenever that came up it just wasted screen time. Overall, it was damn good TV.

The best episodes were always the ones where they didn't stick to the standard formula.

The two hour season opening, the Wilson episode, the Cuddy episode, Lockdown two weeks ago and now the finale.

The writers however have a few issues:

- They don't really know how to handle an ensemble cast. Most episodes usually center around House, Cuddy and Wilson (with each of the two getting a lot less screen time than Laurie) and one of the remaining cast members getting some sort of B plot (if he or she is lucky) that is irrelevant and usually gets even less screen time.

- They desperately stick to the proven formula of House which amplifies the first problem and usually leads to the weakest episodes of a season.

- If they try to break the mold by either trying a different narrative or at least by actual character development they usually revert back to the standard house formula and even roll back plot or character development. I suppose they are too scared to leave the beaten path.

- 1 to 3 lead to people not caring about anybody except House, Cuddy and Wilson which makes writing different episodes even harder.

I don't really like the normal brand of House episodes anymore because it's to constrained to offer something novel. The other types of episodes however were all pretty good this season.

The 'normal' house episodes are almost unwatchable due to how formulaic they are, the only redeeming feature of those is House's sarcasm which can't have too much more mileage left in it.

The soap opera stuff (Notice the goddamn music this past season?) got really strong and it turned me off, because the writers just can't pull of House style drama lately. Stuff like "Three stories" or "One day, one room", maybe the whole of the Stacy arc, good House drama. Past few seasons? It's all been bloop bloop bog standard soap fare. Uninteresting and bland. No real human texture to it.

In fact, the one thing I rather didn't like about the finale is how abruptly Cuddy just threw herself at House. Not necessarily that she threw herself at House, but that it was done poorly and at the last minute.

I have to think that the ending was put in later, or revised. 

Guessing this has been around awhile, seeing as it has the cast from the first season in it. But I just now saw it.

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It's basically a pity fuck. Note the scene where House is describing what happened to his leg. Cuddy's got this tear going down her cheek.

She's a total sap, and that's the jarring part. Because up until now, Cuddy seems to have known that he's an asshole with a nice guy wrapper with a curmudgeonly skin. And when House gets tired of her, it's gonna be fun to watch.  :grin:

I don't think it will be fun to watch. Simply because it's pretty predictable how it will go. I have a pretty clear idea in my head already of exactly how it will work.
And if it just happens NOT to work the way it is working in my head, then it still won't be fun.

Reason for this is simple. Watching House in a loving caring relationship a good show does not make.

Well, after marrying the hooker in last night's episode I suspect that House has officially jumped the shark. It will be renewed of course but if the producers had any sense they'd end it now rather than let it struggle on for another couple of seasons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1B8xxa0a_0&feature=related

Thirteen is back :drillf:

And there was much rejoicing.

There was?

Shouldn't buying the Tron Legacy Blue-ray give you enough samples of her talents to last you a lifetime?

In a word, no.

In more than a word, the show really took a nosedive for me when they got rid of everybody except The Bachelors and added a schoolgirl. It started to look like something out of the 70's with the young woman doctor in a man's world trying to prove herself and blah blah blah, also she looks 30 years old, and also she stupidly wears tiny skirts all the time. The actress is good enough, and the character is sometimes interesting, but not interesting enough to distract from the weird dynamics they created.

Now not only Thirteen's back, but also Rachel, and that makes things not as awkward.

You can never have too much Olivia Wilde on your screen.

I've been a big not-fan of the 13 character, but Wilde's break to do Legacy, and the stuff they did in this episode on bringing her back, hath redeemed the character for me.

Best 13-centric episode ever.

Just catching up with this again, just watched 13 reappear, no way a tv show should be this good on it's 7th series.

Hugh Laurie has hinted at it ending with the 8th season though.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s58/house/news/a318804/house-renewed-for-eighth-season-by-fox.html

Much as I like the show, 8 good seasons is a very respectable run, and I'm really excited to think about what the writers might do once they've got something to work toward AND they don't need to worry about setting the show up to continue afterwards.  The season that ended with House in the loony bin was FANTASTIC.

And it looks like this season's gonna end on a psycho note too.

Hugh Laurie was on the Graham Norton show this week - apparently he has a blues band or some such now. And he seemed to suggest that he would rather do that than act.

He could easily afford to.

Definitely a better actor than singer, but Hugh Laurie is still a good singer. I don't blame him his aspirations; I'd rather play blues gigs the rest of my life, too.

House is pissing me off though with its "only one female doctor at a time" thing. What the fuck. I was happy when Thirteen came back, and I never liked Spunky Skoolgrrl that much anyway, but now the show's a damn bachelor-fest-with-a-chick again.

It's always been that.

Yay. They fixed House's leg, like in season 3. It would have been more interesting if he'd been moving to harder drugs, because of building up a tolerance to Vicodin. Ah well. Looking forward to the sad montage when his leg gets worse again!  :oh_i_see:

Negative. Around seasons 3-5, there were at least three female leads, not counting Cuddy, who is a special case. (Mama Bear, etc etc.)

The team has always been 2 dudes and a gal, with a little overlap between actors coming and going.

Wow. I guess I have tumor on my face.  :awesome_for_real:

*edit*

WTF. 13 has gone from zero to awesome.

Rather liked this episode. I expected everyone to call in sick the next day.  :awesome_for_real:

"This isn't where I parked my car"

I was thinking that would have been a great end to the series.  I really don't want the happy-go-lucky everything's peachy and everyone's got a partner ending.

Even though I liked the episode overall.  I really hate shows that start with a "this is odd" scene, then cut to a message saying "24 hours" or "three days earlier".  It works if you don't need the message, if you need to write the time period message then it's stupid.  It's happening more and more and it's annoying.

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh. I dunno if I like this one or not. It had it's moments, but it's still suffering from "One episode you can't miss!"-itus.

I'm really curious to see what the fuck they do with the next season.  Agree with Merusk that the show could easily have ended there.

Season 8: The team Skypes House every 5 minutes because he can't come back to the US.  :awesome_for_real:

Finally got around to watching our DVRs of the end of this season. 

Oddly,


Good stuff all around. 

It's Lupus!

Will catch up tonight watching the season premiere.  I somehow doubt that, even moving the setting to a prison, they'll escape the typical "patient has something wrong/spend 45 minutes doing invasive procedures to determine cause/blow last few minutes discovering it's something either stupidly simple/incredibly rare/interpersonal drama spread throughout" routine.

Loved House doing the Sherlock thing with the hot doctor.   :drill:

He'll probably end up hiring her for his new team, since she's now blacklisted.

Adequate episode of House. I have to wonder about that prison's poor security over their vicodin though.  :awesome_for_real:

Anywho, yeah. I haven't paid attention to the spoilers, but that female doctor has "New team member" written on her forehead.

It recaptured my interest after losing it last season, but only tentatively.

Aye, I caught up with the episode last night.  They were pretty spot on the portrayal of Jailhouse gangs, logistics and economics.  Even the hardened murderer having a soft spot for the cricket isn't far from reality.

As for the story, they sure are getting innovative at re-telling the same one over and over.  Still, the change of scenery was nice.  Back to the hospital for next week's episode!

Princeton Plainsboro should wise up and sell tickets to watch House insult people and cure patients with unconventional methods!

I'm baffled as to why Cuddie would let him back in the hospital at all.  It makes less than zero sense.

My understanding is that Cuddy's off the show (the actress quit).  So that removes the obvious "why the fuck would Cuddy let him anywhere near her" obstacle.

Yup, Cuddy's gone.

She was the only one with any reasonable reason to even let him work as fucked up as he was before t his. Now I'm just even more puzzled.

Not to mention the whys and wherefores of not losing his damn license.

Honestly, last season should have been the end.  This one is just going to make me angry, I can feel it.

Fucked up or not, he's the most brilliant diagnostician in the world, and there's always going to be some rich guy with a mysterious ailment who will pay any amount of money to get Greg House to look at his case.  There's your motivation to let him work.

So... hmm. 4 episodes into the new status quo and I like it but don't love it. It's most definitely time for the last season, as you can tell they really stretched to try to make another season in that hospital make any sort of sense and it really doesn't. But I like the new team members, especially the hotness on a stick that is Dr. Adams. Much hotter than Olivia Wilde and that's saying something. How it'll work with Taub and Chase back I'm not entirely sure, especially with Foreman playing the role of Cuddy.

Odette Anable (formerly Yustman) is indeed teh hotness. Hotter than Olivia? Out for debate. I still see the Mexican girl on Kindergarten cop and cry a little 'cause she died in Cloverfield.

Welp, that's it then. Show's over.

I can't say I LOVED IT, but I definitely thought it ended well with enough of an unexpected twist to fit the character perfectly.

So did anyone watch last night's finale?  I'm almost done digesting it and really enjoyed it. One hell of a roller-coaster for me.  

Fake ed: Damnit Haemish you posted as I was pulled away for a phone call.

An adequete finale, unfortunatley I don't think it was a very strong one. They've had much better season finales. Very nice to see Stacey (Sela Ward) make it for the last ep.
I feel that all the crap episodes are worth it for the first 3 seasons and the decent eps between then and the end.

Not convinced.  Bad Ending.

They needed some serious fucking Deus Ex Machina to make that ending work.  Unless you want to assume that House offed the addict and lit the crack den on fire himself.

I think we're meant to assume that he went there to get the guy to go with his promise to bail him out and found him dead.  Setting the fire himself isn't that big a leap once you've believed that bit of horseshit.

The whole thing smelled of Moffat.

Wasn't he initially lying there high?  Hence the long discourse with figments of his imagination?  Did he set the fire and stop for a heroin break?

The part where he breaks through the floor into a fully involved room was just painful to watch.

That certainly seemed like the setup at the start, yes, but it gave you absolutely no context as the episode went on as to why or how that would ever come about.

Indeed, it was all A PLAN.   :oh_i_see:

So he had a plan all along, just his heroin hallucinations weren't aware of it even though he had discoursed with them, at length, on that very topic (the inability of House to deceive figments of his own imagination)?

I'm also having troubles accepting that morgues apparently allow strung-out dudes who reek of burnt meat to just walk in and swap dental records.

EDIT: Also, the pretext for him going back to jail is fucking weak.  I mean, really?  Ladies better be careful they don't get caught flushing tampons.

EDIT2: Though in that case God wasn't so much in the machine as he was perched on the ceiling tiles above it.

You know I was agreeing, right ?

 :why_so_serious:

Yes, it's just too atrocious to not mock at length.

In fairness, I would imagine since it was PLANNED (DAN DAN DAN DUUUUHH) that he swapped the dental records before the hobo killing fire.

See, that's not even the worst (though it's still atrocious.)

The absolute worst bit is him being able to deceive his hallucinations, solely for the purposes of fucking with the audience.  I just want to walk up to the cockmunch who wrote that, throw every ounce of weight I can muster into a backhand, point to the script, and say "See that?  There's supposed to be a fourth wall there, you motherfucking hack!"

Also, like every single moment he is anywhere in the same building as a fire, for purely technical reasons.  You cannot fucking survive above a fire unless there is an intact separation between you and it; hot gasses rise, witches burn.  You cannot fucking survive in a fully involved room like that unless the vast majority of your body is covered by flame resistant material; in maybe a quarter of a minute the UV and infrared light cast by the fire is going to cause your skin to slough off.  You especially cannot survive breaking through a floor into a fully involved room; fucking firefighters usually don't survive that.

If you light a curtain on fire then it generally takes about 5 minutes until the whole room is on fire, less than ten until the whole apartment is ablaze and if there are no fire walls and other systems in place that try to slow the fire down the whole building will be burning in about 20 minutes. Temperatures anywhere from 400 to 1200 degrees celcius. That's for the brick and mortar or concrete reinforced buildings that we generally build over here.

Anybody who isn't out by the 10 minute mark faces the risk of serious injuries or death from smoke inhalation, breathing in of the scorching hot air or, you now, burning. It will also be completely filled with smoke so that you have visibility in the range of inches.

Or, the very act of falling and being in the building at all could have been a hallucination, complete with time compression, etc. I didn't take the whole "Go through the burning building" as a literal sequence of events.

 :uhrr:

I was hoping that it was an extended episode of Doctor Who.

So, Foreman and Wilson were on Heroin as well? :grin:

Assuming otherwise: the room below House is fully engulfed, and it appeared surrounding rooms were as well.  Which means he'd been hotboxing burning polyurethane foam cushions and matresses in an 800 - 1200˚ C environment (remember: heat rises) for between five and ten minutes using Jeff's numbers.

I thought it was fine.  The critical plot points were all plausible enough (cmon, House is a genius and has been working in hospitals and pranking people for a long time, I think he's up to the challenge of faking some records so he can pull a Tom Sawyer) and made sense for the characters, and that matters more to me than whether the TV dramatic depiction of a burning building was visually accurate to what it would look like in real life.

Liked that a big theme of the episode was House trying to wriggle out of paying the price for his own dumbassery, and at the end he finally did make a personal sacrifice so he could spend time with Wilson, albeit in a sophomoric dumbass kind of way.  Just the right amount of character growth.

It's not so much the Tom Sawyer, it's that it's another goddamn Deus Ex Machina.  How the fuck does a dead guy manage to con his way into the morgue to swap dental records without anyone the wiser?  We don't know!

House normally has excellent attention to detail.  You could teach a class of volunteers how and when to call in a Mayday with a clip from the Season 6 finale.  The burning building is just fucking bad.

Like I said, he's a genius with inside knowledge of the place, keys, plenty of experience doing this exact type of thing to prank people, and a decent amount of time while everyone who knew that he was "dead" was sitting around watching the rescue efforts.  I don't need them to show an hour-long flashback of him doing an Ocean's Eleven routine for me to accept that part of the plot.

I'm just glad the show is done. I liked it, then didn't but kept watching it because I like Hugh Laurie.

You don't need to, though you did laugh when he attended his Dad's funeral to get a DNA sample.  I know you did.

 :why_so_serious:

Funnily, The Joker was the other comparison I would have made.  They just had way too much fun with that character.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zu5XVIQylE

House only has a "friends with benefits" relationship with realisim anyway. I'm a bit diappointed that they never did an episode where a space shuttle pilot gets sick, and House has to diagnose him before the shuttle crashes into Princeton Plainsboro.