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Sign up here if you are interested - lets get the show going by Thursday  

-Advanced start = 3000 gold
-Monarch difficulty
-double bonus
-double event rate
-Classical Start
-Pangaea land, 12 Players (AI will fill in gaps)


Also vote if you want to start the tech tree at the second level; I am ambivalent and can dominate either way.   I will update the top post as information comes in.  Also need a volunteer to monitor things.  Rulers are by whoever calls it first; alternately say "random" and I will get a random Ruler picked out for you.

Players signed up:
Cheddar = Hannah the Irin (Lanun)
Stormwaltz  = Amurites (admin)
MrHat = Varn Gosam (Malakim)
Slyfeind = Decius (Calabim)
Sky = Perpentach (Balseraphs)
GenVec = Kuriotates
veredus = Doviello

I will release the map on Tuesday so we can start getting set up- game on by Thursday.

edit.  Random players will be drawn tomorrow (Saturday).  I ran some test games; starting with 3,000 gold will allow different play styles.  Also, raging barbs was way to brutal and will lengthen the game by a LOT.  As I challenged in the other thread feel free to vote for my starting Civ!

Random

People still play this game?

Random!

If no one else volunteers to run things, I'm willing to do that instead of play. I get nearly as much satisfaction from watching other people play games.

That's madness!

We filling it out w/ PC opponents?

Gah, won't have BtS until next week. I guess I'll jump into the next game in 2015  :awesome_for_real:

Early or late next week?  I am ok with waiting - we still have to set up a timeframe for people to get their advance start going.  Also, Stormwaltz you can play AND run things.  I seriously doubt any of the participants are going to cheat - I have gamed with most of them and they are solid people.

They say the 19th. I'm on vacay so I can also run a SP game to learn how to play FfH2 again :) Don't worry about waiting for me if you're ready to go, I'll just be quickly wiped out anyway. If I can play, put me down for Random as well.

I am cool with a 8/20 start date - everyone else ok with that?

Perfectly.

Sho nuff.

Thats actually a really good start date - Gives me time to get the map set up and random civs picked out.  I have never done PBEM so will need to figure that out as well.

I wanted to do this an age ago. Better late than never.

Sign me up as the Kuriotate.

If you need more people I am willing to give it a shot. Should short and brutal for me but sounds fun.

Dovus or whatever the Barbarian civ is would be great.

We will cap the game at 10 players.  Definitely gonna need raging barbarians - need to even the odds for the AI!

Do we still get to pick your Civ, Cheddar? If that's the case, i'm nominating you for the mighty Lanun.

I meant, we're having computer players too right?

Or am I just going to be abused by barbarians like every other game?

I am thinking we will make this bloody - 16 players.  AI to fill in the gaps.  If it goes smooth play wise we could splinter and have smaller seperate games going afterward

We are going with a large pangea landmass, 3,000 gold, dropping raging barbarians.  I ran a bunch of scenarios, and raging barbs completely drew away from the interplayer interaction.

Lanun I can work with.  No real strengths, no real weakness.  I will have your random Civs by tomorrow so you can practice.


Edit.  I am going to test double speed as well. 

And here I thought I was giving you a handicap by suggesting a seafaring race on a land-based map.

The only real strength the Lanun Civ has is being so-so.  Starting leaders traits are decent, world spell they have blow, leader is ok.  Unfortunetely, there is no strength to play up to (like how the orcs have uber dogpile abilities). 

Random Civ picks are:
Cheddar = Hanna the Irin (Lanun)
MrHat = Varn Gosam (Malakim)
Slyfeind = Decius (Calabim)
Sky = Perpentach (Balseraphs)

Awesome. So how will we do the advance start? I've never PBEM'ed a Civ game before.

Ya, I pretty much have no idea what's going on, but will play a game w/ the Malakin tonight.

Consider me another confused one. I'll also practice a bit, but I'm still on the old .22 build waiting for BtS to arrive.

I will need to figure it out - I spent most of yesterday testing the rulesets out.  Should have the details on Tuesday of how this will work!

Classical tech tree start with 3,000 gold seems to be the sweet spot; it really allows mucho strategies.

But they have some hilarious events, if you play the male leader. Essentially you have a chance of seducing all the female leaders in the game.

If anyone has a link for the old .32 version along with patch I, I'd appreciate it. Can't seem to find the thing anywhere.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=276032

I cannot stress enough people need to avoid .33 until patch C.

Despite appearances, that link still goes to the .33 version of the game. I'm trying a torrent for .32.

Hang on, I've got .32.

EDIT: Oh for... looks like it will take over 1.5 hours for me to upload the main files alone. Searching for an archived copy.

EDIT 2: Ah ha. 0.32 core files available here. (http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/civilizationivbeyondthesword/mod/24341.html)

EDIT 3: Patch L up on my FTP. (http:///www.animeofthestate.org/temp/FallfromHeaven2032_PatchL.exe)

Thanks Stormwaltz!  I am running behind today - the damn babysitter took the day off and my son has refused to nap (8month old 4tw!).  Also, he crawls around (like a jet engine) and pulls up on things, so its constant chasing him around and making sure he does not pwn himself.

Stormwaltz, can you get this going?  This was my one day off to get the ball rolling and I ended up busy. 

Ruleset:
-Advanced start = 3000 gold
-Monarch difficulty
-double bonus
-double event rate
-Classical Start
-Pangaea land, 12 Players (AI will fill in gaps)
-Fastest speed

Leader board:
Cheddar = Hannah the Irin (Lanun)
Stormwaltz = Amurites (admin)
MrHat = Varn Gosam (Malakim)
Slyfeind = Decius (Calabim)
Sky = Perpentach (Balseraphs)
GenVec = Kuriotates
veredus = Doviello

Ah, crap. I was offline transferring stuff to my new machine all last night. I'll install Civ4 on it tonight and set this up.

Welllll... shit.

Looks like my old machine scratched up the BtS install disc. I won't be able to do anything until I can buy a replacement. Payday's Friday.

Or you could just...

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it.

Okay, BtS re-bought (only $17!), patched, mods installed. I'll set the game up tomorrow. Er. "Later today," since its past 3AM.

I was going to suggest using this FFH map mod (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=183924), but since MrHat drew the Malakim, it might hurt his start position.

.33c is up btw

So do we want to try .33c? Or still .32l?

I think .32 would be safer. The older version was mostly debugged, and FFH patches invalidate saved games ~50% of the time.

I put up all the 0.32 files on my FTP. You don't need the media files to play -- they're just wonder and intro movies.

Game Files (http://www.animeofthestate.org/temp/FallfromHeaven2032.exe)
Media Files (http://www.animeofthestate.org/temp/FallfromHeaven2032_Media.exe)
Patch L (http://www.animeofthestate.org/temp/FallfromHeaven2032_PatchL.exe)

I am thinking about skipping .33 completely - I forgot the even number rule with FFH.  Basically Kael does a new ruleset on the odd number, then refines it and comes up with the next even number as a stabler client.

Okay, game started.

Unless we're all okay with posting our emails here (and possibly attracting spam-bots), everyone will need to PM their email to the person who'll send turns to them.

We play in the following order:
1) Stormwaltz
2) Cheddar
3) MrHat
4) Slyfeind
5) Sky
6) GenVec
7) veredus

So Cheddar would PM me his email so I can send the turn to him. I'd PM veredus with my email so he can send it to me when it comes around again.

So...how's this work? We get the save file, put it in our save directory, then...build our civ with the aforementioned accelerated start?

Yes. You get the save file in the mail, and place it in your PBEM save directory. Load the game, load the save. You'll set your password and do your setup, and when you finish you'll take your first turn. When you're done, it will save the game in the PBEM folder for you to pass on to the next palyer.

Although I specified 3000 in the advanced set up, mine only had 400-500 to spend. It may be that setting it to the Classical Era deducted from that.

EDIT: Actually, given that error, would you like me to try setting up again, to see if I can actually get it to give us 3000 a piece?

Try rebuilding the game.  You have to select Classical start THEN input the money for advance start (otherwise it will default to 400ish).

I restarted, but the game capped the setup funds at ~2700, no matter how many times i tried.

The game is afoot!

I guess I need to create a second install to run the older version?

I am supposed to work a 12 today, but will try and dip out early.  Worse case scenario: I get my turn done and mailed out by 10:30pm EST. 

Paging MrHat - PM me your e-mail so I can get the file to you!

PM'd

FFH is pretty good about versioning its install locations. The directories should be named something like "Fall From Heaven 2032" and "Fall From Heaven 2033" (I don't have Civ installed at work, or I'd give precise names). Just make sure you load the right version if you have multiple ones.

Just use the proper executable (the one in the 32 folder).

Taking my turn now.  I am just gonna wing this mother - Lanun really hinders creative moves!

Getting ERRORS.  I think you need to mail the autosave file without renaming it?

Huh. I didn't rename it, or alter it in any way.

It told me in-game that it was autosaved. I exited and grabbed the only file in the PBEM directory (Vista path: Users\Chris\Documents\My Games\Beyond the Sword\Saves\PBEM\F13\)

I'm... clueless. I've emailed the autosave, but its name seems to indicate it was made before I started my setup.

Same error - failed to load.   :uhrr:

There are 2 files that get saved - I did some testing and think I got it.  I will start the game and send the file to you.

Here is how it works; you take your turn, then when done it will save the file and tell you to send it to the next player.  Stormwaltz, try it out and see if it works.

Yeah, that's exactly what I did. I'll try it when I get home tonight.

Bizarre.

I get errors too. The save game can't be loaded.

I'll ask on the FFH board at CivFanatics tomorrow. Need sleep.

Posted on their tech board. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=288893)

Just to be sure, everyone's patched to BtS 3.17, right? That's likely to be the first question I'm asked.

No responses on their board.

Should we call this dead in the water? :/

We could always roll FFH toons on LoTRO!

Looks like my plan to dash for Corruption of Spirit and introduce Hyborem into the game on turn 10 will have to wait.

/makes note

Aww, Loki wants to party!